Theories: who bombed London

[isa_alnabulsi]

WHO BOMBED LONDON.

8/7/05

by

Khalid Saffarini

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Thursday's bombings within the city of London were immediately labelled by Tony Blair as 'terrorist acts carried out in the name of Islam' . Such a rash supposition is not only superficial but also misleading in assessing the true identity of the culprits. In actuality there are only two plausible entities likely to have planned and executed the bombings. They are either The United States of America, or indeed an Islamic militant group linked to Al - Qaida.



1) The possibility of the U.S. being behind this action is linked to the recent escalation and strengthening of Britain within the international situation. With Britain being recently given the EU presidency, the role of hosting the current G8 summit was another opportunity for Tony Blair to solidify his position and Britain's as the leading European nation. The media frenzy prior to the G8 summit had portrayed Blair as the host who would act on behalf of the other G8 leaders in pressuring the U.S. to finally accept the Kyoto treaty. Coupled with the farcical Live 8 pop concerts, the buoyancy of the successful Olympic bid and Gordon Brown's popular debt elimination plan, Blair was experiencing a media and public support he hadn't received since the heyday of his leadership. Even days prior to the G8 summit, Blair seemed unyielding towards America as he persistently commented on how as G8 president Britain would lead the way into convincing George Bush to accept the terms of the Kyoto treaty, fairer trade and increased aid to Africa. It was evident that George Bush would have to play second fiddle to Tony Blair and Britain during the G8 summit .



It is a fact that Bush had no intention of conforming to European media pressure or Britain's will with the following comment made in Denmark the day before, 'Kyoto didn't work for the United States and it frankly, didn't work for the world'. Furthermore Bush outlined his proposal for the G8 summit by stating the U.S. had spent over $20bn in research and development for alternative fuels to crude oil. As U.S. official Faryar Shirzad stated, 'their (Europe) approach has largely been driven by working through the Kyoto protocol; ours has been one based on trying to advance the science and technology in this area'. This falls in line with the U.S. policy to cripple Europe within the Gulf via the high oil prices as explained in the comment'Oil Prices - U.S.-Euro Conflict but the Ummah Pay for It'.



As the bombings took place a clearly shaken and distraught Tony Blair came forward to make his statement. Clearly unprepared and stuttering, Blair was unable to hide his anguish at the decision made by the other G8 leaders when he commented, 'the G8 leaders have agreed to continue the summit in my absence'. Such a comment was unnecessary considering the national crisis but also highlighted the humiliation Blair felt from the G8 leaders who had decided not to postpone while their host briefly visited London. Such a decision was obviously led by the United States. It was also a clear indication of the possible hindrance America felt by Blair's presence and also worked to emphasize to their counterparts his total insignificance. In fact the humiliation was deepened as the bombings worked to America's advantage further by conveniently ousting the British Prime Minister from the negotiations while allowing Bush to almost immediately give a far more confident, impressive (and better prepared) press conference in Gleneagles about his agenda regarding the 'War on Terrorism'.



Even as this was occurring conflicting reports were emerging from the U.S. and British media regarding the death toll. Within hours the American press had quoted victims above the 40 region while the British press had commented that less than a dozen had been killed. The British press confirmed a few days later that the number had exceeded 40. Somehow the U.S. knew the nature and potential damage of such bombings better than their British counterparts who were at the scene.. Furthermore U.S. officials clamed that the devices were detonated by timers while the British were contemplating the possibility of suicide bombers. A few days later the British also confirmed the high possibility of timers being used as detonators.



By the time Blair had returned to Gleneagles and the G8 summit had concluded, America had recorded a categorical victory. On the issue of Global warming the G8 issued a statement which mirrored that of America's only days prior and had almost omitted any mention of the Kyoto treaty. Stated the G8, 'uncertainties remain in our understanding of climate science…'. With regards to African aid, America had avoided writing any precise figures within the G8 declaration (as it had desired) instead 'agreeing' that the G8 and 'other donors' would increase aid by $25bn. Incredibly the U.S. had not only completely bypassed the proposed aid target of 0.7% of GDP, of which they were strongly against, they had even managed for it to be deleted from the declaration.



Somehow by arriving at the G8 summit under international pressure and scrutiny to conform to the European demands, the U.S. had left the summit further imposing its hegemony and having her arrogant demands met. Also the world was once again reminded of the threat of terrorism - the excuse for America's imperialistic foreign policy. Additionally the Europeans, specifically the British, who had generally been against the War on Iraq, will now have a venomous fervor to take revenge on the 'people who possess an ideology of murder' as Bush so often states.



2) As for the second possibility - It was just a group of Islamic fundamentalists who bombed the largely Muslim areas of Aldgate and Edgware Road, while simultaneously removing any serious media attention from the ongoing calamities within the Middle East and consequently aiding America's bloodthirsty War on Islam…..

[isa_alnabulsi]

assalamulaikum
if one is following the news they will find as mentioned in this article how events have culminated in america's favour - what ever happened to kyoto eh??

[Salman Al-Farsi]

What's Behind the London Attacks?

The bombing of the London Underground was a false-flag operation designed to keep the West mired in war. Don't believe otherwise.


By Matt Hutaff Jul 7, 2005

Only one word sprang to mind when I heard about the bombings that claimed the lives of dozens of Londoners today – convenient.

Is there anything convenient in death, or in thousands of lives destroyed from catastrophe? No – and words cannot express the sorrow I feel for the men and women changed by today's events. But governments with skeletons in their closets have a great deal to gain from a national tragedy bolstered by "terrorism."

As I sit in my office today, I hear the whispers of co-workers now utterly convinced our war on terror must continue. Despite American and British involvement in the Middle East birthing wave after wave of rebel forces, the Bush doctrine is now justified in the minds of millions. Petty grievances such as the Downing Street Minutes, the President's flagging support and Karl Rove's treasonous outing of CIA agent Valerie Plame are unimportant. A shadowy conglomeration is out to kill us.

Sound familiar? It should – the same emotional ploy was used to great effect on Americans in the wake of September 11th. Question nothing, particularly your cries for vengeance or that nagging feeling in the back of your head. Justice delayed is justice denied.

Unlike four years ago, however, I refuse to accept that the attack on London was anything less than a false-flag operation designed to enrage Western "civilization" against the Middle East. Why? Because there is no reason for "terrorist" groups to attack England. As recently as this week, the Ministry of Defense announced that plans were being drafted that would pull British armed forces from the quagmires in Iraq and Afghanistan. With the British effectively admitting they're throwing in the towel, the only motivation to stay could come from an attack that compels the forces to stay and fight "global terrorism."

Think about it. The attack only benefits empires desperate to maintain a foothold in the Middle East without further eroding public opinion. Will Parliament shrug their shoulders and push their soldiers into longer tours of duty because of this? Obviously it's too early to tell, but if that happens, insurgents and rebels will have lost more than they could have ever possibly gained in destroying part of the Underground.

Brian Kilmeade of Fox News agrees, claiming the sabotage "works to ... [the] Western world's advantage, for people to experience something like this together." It doesn't just make "terrorism" an American problem. It makes it a worldwide problem. The Number One problem.

No longer do we need to concern ourselves with two world leaders (who have spawned more worldwide terrorism than any fanatical religious organization) going unquestioned in their lies that started a war. We can cast off our sluggish economies, lack of freedoms and pitiful descent into draconian law. Terror is on the rise.

I feel like I'm sitting in my apartment watching the World Trade Center collapse all over again.

Everything is the same, right down to the previously unheard of Islamic group (The Secret Organization of al-Qaida in Europe? Are you kidding me?) taking credit – even though the translation falls apart under scrutiny and the Q'uran is improperly cited. Considering the only Al Qaeda cell to ever be uncovered was a front for the Mossad, you'd think the perpetrators could at least come up with a clever new booga-booga name to grab headlines. Their arrogance is startling.

As is the ever-present Israeli connection, a staple among false flag operations. Before today's attack, the Israeli Embassy in London was notified an attack was forthcoming. As a result, former Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu remained in his hotel room rather than head towards a nearby hotel where he was to address an economic summit.

The embassy denies it had any prior knowledge, of course, but the story has changed dramatically in the process. If, as they say, Netanyahu was not warned, how did he know to stay in his room? How did he know the danger was so severe that he dare not venture out of the hotel?

Oops! The story's changed again – here Netanyahu says that British police had warned the Israelis (but not the rest of the city?) of a pending attack. Scotland Yard denies this; Israel's reply was to say Netanyahu received his warning after the first blast. How? It was initially reported as a power surge for hours. What is being hidden here? And why isn't there an investigation into these obvious discrepancies?

It's enough to make your head spin and your eyes cross with rage.

Regardless, I am making an appeal to Britons who are understandably wracked with grief at the moment – don't buy into the hatred the way we Americans did. Don't ignore the obvious evidence that this whole affair was orchestrated by your own government. Most importantly, don't let the deaths of the few, however tragic, plunge your nation into another fit of war and civic clampdowns.

Toying with your emotions is expected. Don't fall prey to ignorance. See the attack on your home for what it really is – a distraction that will keep your money, resources and troops mired in ceaseless battle for an ideology that betrays your democratic and civilized tenets.

Honor your dead with tears, not a cry for war or praise for a disgraced leader.

Canon Fodder is a weekly analysis of politics and society.


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[Salman Al-Farsi]

Theory No 2.


“Brittain has bombed itself before and blamed it on the IRA, the US planned to attack itself in 1962 with Operation Northwoods. Israel has it's Lavon Affair. Hitler burnt the Reichstag Government building and blamed it on terrorists. Nero burnt Rome, and essentially did the same, blamed terrorists.”


http://blog.myspace.com/theranter

[Salman Al-Farsi]

Blair rejects calls for probe into bombings
By James Blitz, Political Editor, and Jimmy Burns
Published: July 10 2005 20:55 | Last updated: July 10 2005 20:55
http://news.ft.com/c.gif http://news.ft.com/cms/24739158-eefa...000e2511c8.jpgTony Blair will on Monday reject Conservative demands for a government inquiry into last week's London bomb attacks, insisting such a move would distract from the task of catching the perpetrators.

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As police and security services on Sunday continued searching for the bombers - thought to be Islamist terrorists - Downing Street said the prime minister believed an inquiry now into the outrage which killed at least 49 people would be a "ludicrous diversion."

Instead, in a statement to the Commons on Monday following last week's Group of Eight summit, Mr Blair is expected to focus on the direction the government must take to ensure future terrorism is defeated.

In particular, the prime minister believes there must be far greater co-operation among European Union governments in the fight against terrorism - a view Charles Clarke, the home secretary, is expected to drive home at an emergency meeting of EU interior ministers this week.

He is expected to tell his counterparts governments must ensure operators keep data on telephone and internet exchanges for up to a year.

He also indicated on Sunday that he would consider granting further "control orders" if he thought they were necessary.

Mr Clarke said he was "very optimistic indeed" that last Thursday's bombers would be tracked down. But he feared further attacks could take place until that happened. "That is why the number one priority has to be the catching of the perpetrators."

Police continued to sift through the debris from Thursday's four explosions - three in the London Underground and one on a bus - and to examine witness accounts and intelligence as part of their hunt for the bombers.

But police chiefs indicated that had yet to establish the identity or the whereabouts of the terrorists they suspect belong to an extremist Islamist cell in sympathy with the aims of Al-Qaeda.

Tension several cities remained high over the weekend. Police said they had arrested, under prevention of terrorism laws, three British nationals on an inward flight at Heathrow early on Sunday but insisted that any link with last Thursday's bombings was speculative. The three were expected to be released later on Sunday night, according to police sources.

But the arrests, the dozens of bomb alerts in the English capital and an evacuation in the Birmingam city centre over the weekend reflect the nervousness of both police and the general public at the prospect that the bombers were still at large and capable of striking again.

The police also revealed that there had been a few cases of attacks on British Muslims in the wake of the bombings - including one in which an individual was "seriously injured."

The revelation came as some government officials expressed irritation that an article in a Sunday newspaper by Sir John Stevens, the former Metropolitan Police commissioner, might stir up racial tensions. He said the bombers were "almost certainly" British - with many more born and bred here willing to attack.

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/8186face-f1...00e2511c8.html

[hamzel1978]

Theory No 2.


“Brittain has bombed itself before and blamed it on the IRA, the US planned to attack itself in 1962 with Operation Northwoods. Israel has it's Lavon Affair. Hitler burnt the Reichstag Government building and blamed it on terrorists. Nero burnt Rome, and essentially did the same, blamed terrorists.”


http://blog.myspace.com/theranter

oh please!!

[Salman Al-Farsi]

Theory No 3.



It is too obvious now!!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/july2005/090705bombingexercises.htm



“A consultancy agency with government and police connections was running an exercise for an unnamed company that revolved around the London Underground being bombed at the exact same times and locations as happened in real life on the morning of July 7th.”



Which is a perfect cover for people pretending to be terrorists to plant real bombs instead of fake ones, isn't it?

Just like on 9-11 when an ongoing NORAD exercise tracking 20 simulated hijacked planes provided cover for four real hijacked planes.

No working cameras at the airports where the terrorists boarded the 9-11 planes.

No working cameras on the double-decked bus.

Advance warning to Odigo.

Advance warning to Netanyahu.

Folks, do I have to paint you a picture here?

[Salman Al-Farsi]

VIDEO CONFIRMS TERROR "EXERCISE" AT SAME TIME AND PLACES AS REAL BOMBS IN LONDON

http://www.terrorize.dk/misc/london/london.terror.games.wmv

[noora]

Alternatively, its just your everyday Insane Islamist fanatics, like it always is.

"Excuses" of the kind posted above just make Muslims look stupid.

[Salman Al-Farsi]

My dear Muslims, your govt did this to make you all drop down on your knees and become defeatest, and they have been successful. Well done.

[noora]

My dear Muslims, your govt did this to make you all drop down on your knees and become defeatest, and they have been successful. Well done.

I find it hard to believe that a moderator on ummah could post such a thing.

That is quite disgraceful.

Personally I think you should resign.

[Al-Nasser]

funny hearing that from someone who has such low integrity and trust level (i am talking about keeping your religion undisclosed in a forum based on religious discussions)

[MG]

"blair would never do this to us" i hear u say

hmmm...your PM is run by George dubya Bush, to the point he cannot think for himself anymore, i mean the man's own wife speaks against him and has to get her wrists slapped!

If he can kill millions of innocents by invading another country, letting your soldiers run amok killing and raping men and women, in YOUR name, the BRITISH people,who knows what else he is capable of huh, ? to save his own neck and look a winner in front of his public.

[Salman Al-Farsi]

Alternatively, its just your everyday Insane Islamist fanatics, like it always is.

"Excuses" of the kind posted above just make Muslims look stupid.

If this is how you feel about Muslims, what are you doing on a Muslim forum?

[Salman Al-Farsi]

I find it hard to believe that a moderator on ummah could post such a thing.

That is quite disgraceful.

Personally I think you should resign.

and you a non-muslim somehow know whats better for this forum?

[MG]

I find it hard to believe that a moderator on ummah could post such a thing.

That is quite disgraceful.

Personally I think you should resign.

so..... a mod is not allowed opinions now?

[hamzel1978]

VIDEO CONFIRMS TERROR "EXERCISE" AT SAME TIME AND PLACES AS REAL BOMBS IN LONDON

http://www.terrorize.dk/misc/london/...rror.games.wmv

watch it again i don't think you fully understand it,it's for a private office in the city somewhere and the world is not quite as crazy as you think....but if it helps you?

[Raven]

Actually, it was the Chinese. They're hoping the rest of the world destroys itself, and they're left with the CWO (Chinese World Order). Who needs proof when you have a crazy theory that cannot be disproven?

On a separate note, I'm outta here.

Good luck and peace!!!

[hamzel1978]

Actually, it was the Chinese. They're hoping the rest of the world destroys itself, and they're left with the CWO (Chinese World Order). Who needs proof when you have a crazy theory that cannot be disproven?

The chinese are the one's everyone should watch(even america)and the don't like religion much either

[Salman Al-Farsi]

watch it again i don't think you fully understand it,it's for a private office in the city somewhere and the world is not quite as crazy as you think....but if it helps you?

its a theory.

[Arsalan]

Theory No 3.



It is too obvious now!!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/july2005/090705bombingexercises.htm



“A consultancy agency with government and police connections was running an exercise for an unnamed company that revolved around the London Underground being bombed at the exact same times and locations as happened in real life on the morning of July 7th.”



Which is a perfect cover for people pretending to be terrorists to plant real bombs instead of fake ones, isn't it?

Just like on 9-11 when an ongoing NORAD exercise tracking 20 simulated hijacked planes provided cover for four real hijacked planes.

No working cameras at the airports where the terrorists boarded the 9-11 planes.

No working cameras on the double-decked bus.

Advance warning to Odigo.

Advance warning to Netanyahu.

Folks, do I have to paint you a picture here?

I think this is the most plausible exlplantion, and likely to be true. But why did they have to kill all those people. The western mind has become increasingly cold the value of human life.

[Songbird]

Personally I think you should resign.

Well, I'm sure if I were to start up a poll about who should stay and who should leave...let's just say if I were a betting woman, I'd be booking my first-class hotel in the Maldives right about now.

[Mira]

Well, I'm sure if I were to start up a poll about who should stay and who should leave...let's just say if I were a betting woman, I'd be booking my first-class hotel in the Maldives right about now.

Oh Songbird, stop embarrassing her!

I'll quietly show her the way out now.

[Mary Carol]

watch it again i don't think you fully understand it,it's for a private office in the city somewhere and the world is not quite as crazy as you think....but if it helps you?

In my city in the States exercises are run at various businesses and government buildings regularly.

Sometimes entire (small) towns outside the City are involved in their own exercises, but more often it is done on a small scale to give the occupants of a building a trial run on their disaster plans.

Hospitals especially need to have a viable plan in place in the event of a catastrophe such as was seen in NYC on September 11, 2001.

Looking from across the pond, it seems as though the Brits had a well organized plan of action when their mettle was tested last Thursday.

It would be stranger if the UK had not had ongoing exercises to plan for such tragedy.

And unforgivable.

[Songbird]

Oh Songbird, stop embarrassing her!

Her?

Aside from choosing a name like Noora, I doubt "she's" even a woman.

I'll quietly show her the way out now

I was about to say mind her fingers, but I changed my mind

[Salman Al-Farsi]

I think this is the most plausible exlplantion, and likely to be true. But why did they have to kill all those people. The western mind has become increasingly cold the value of human life.

Just to add on, whoever did it meant minimal damage with 10lb bombs and interestingly all of them were conviniently located near major hospitals like King's cross, aldgate being near london hospital etc.

[Arsalan]

Just to add on, whoever did it meant minimal damage with 10lb bombs and interestingly all of them were conviniently located near major hospitals like King's cross, aldgate being near london hospital etc.

.. and conveninelty at areas with high muslim or ethnic populations i.e. edegware road, Algate, and Kings Cross.. which has high muslim/ethnic population just behind it! The castulaties were from all over the world...

i will remain in doubt, until someone is brought to justice and admit to the attack in its completeness.

[seven]

.. and conveninelty at areas with high muslim or ethnic populations i.e. edegware road, Algate, and Kings Cross.. which has high muslim/ethnic population just behind it! The castulaties were from all over the world...

if we were look from the point of view which religion was attacked in the bombings (considering where them bomb were placed: Aldgate - mainly muslim, Edgware rd - mainly arabs, kings cross - mixed) one would naturally assume that muslims were bombed.

surely if the culprits were "al-qaeda" they would have placed the bomb at more strategic locations such as buckingham palace, sandhurst (we know how lax security is there) whitehall, vauxhall etc.

[Salman Al-Farsi]

if we were look from the point of view which religion was attacked in the bombings (considering where them bomb were placed: Aldgate - mainly muslim, Edgware rd - mainly arabs, kings cross - mixed) one would naturally assume that muslims were bombed.

surely if the culprits were "al-qaeda" they would have placed the bomb at more strategic locations such as buckingham palace, sandhurst (we know how lax security is there) whitehall, vauxhall etc.

Good point.

[mouse]

Just to add on, whoever did it meant minimal damage with 10lb bombs and interestingly all of them were conviniently located near major hospitals like King's cross, aldgate being near london hospital etc.

lumme...there are hospitals all over london....and most of them near the tube stations....fact

[mouse]

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i will remain in doubt, until someone is brought to justice and admit to the attack in its completeness.

happily one was splattered all over the bma building

they scrapped him of the side walk like a pot of strawberry jam
and he wont be going bombing anymore....yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[Salman Al-Farsi]

lumme...there are hospitals all over london....and most of them near the tube stations....fact

c'mon mouse thats not a fact, i can name loads of stations from top of my head which dont have hospitals within 5 miles.

here we are talking abt stations with hospitals just around the corner.

[mouse]

c'mon mouse thats not a fact, i can name loads of stations from top of my head which dont have hospitals within 5 miles.

here we are talking abt stations with hospitals just around the corner.

in central london???
am talking cental....think of when the hospitals were built
think of when the tube was built
think of the areas of population at those times...the tube and the hospitals central to each other..if you go on to areas that were developed later of course your right...but central..

[Salman Al-Farsi]

in central london???
am talking cental....think of when the hospitals were built
think of when the tube was built
think of the areas of population at those times...the tube and the hospitals central to each other..if you go on to areas that were developed later of course your right...but central..

distance between aldgate and london hospital is not same as distance between say Barbican or Bank to the nearest hospital.

[ys333]

the individuals who did this are far more clever then people like to admit, the points you have raised will also have been raised by them.

[witty]

Listen/tune in: I think its live

http://66.160.133.226:8020/listen.pls

[Salman Al-Farsi]

Listen/tune in: I think its live

http://66.160.133.226:8020/listen.pls

i cant, i m at work, and I dropped tea all over my earphones the other day

[witty]

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[Salman Al-Farsi]

sorry.. i don't think they replay this again. Dont worry, its not too important. visit renseradio.com now and again when you have time.

Thanks, its an excellent resource

[Makki]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tonyparsons/

FOR SHAHARA'S SAKE, DON'T HATE MUSLIMS
11 July 2005
IN THE aftermath of Thursday's mass murder, it was one of the first pieces of breaking news: the Muslim Council of Great Britain had been sent so many hate emails that its computers had crashed.

Not true. Or at least, it is not true that so many people felt a sudden loathing for Muslims that they were compelled to bombard the Muslim Council of Great Britain with hate email.

Because it now turns out that 30,000 emails were sent to the Muslim Council from just one source.