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    i want to go umrah never been before

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    i want to go umrah in december time and ive never been before

    i'll be going with my mum, so just the two of us, id prefer to go in a group so its easier for my mum

    i need to know about prices and just general info, so any help will be appreciated
    Surah Taha, Verse 69:

    وَأَلْقِ مَا فِي يَمِينِكَ تَلْقَفْ مَا صَنَعُوا إِنَّمَا صَنَعُوا كَيْدُ سَاحِرٍ وَلَا يُفْلِحُ السَّاحِرُ حَيْثُ أَتَىٰ

    "And throw that which is in your right hand! It will swallow up that which they have made. That which they have made is only a magician's trick,
    and the magician will never be successful, no matter whatever amount (of skill) he may attain."

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by HusainIslam View Post
    early December or late December, there will be dramatic price difference.
    Yes late December more pricey.
    I have 13 Nights tailored made package with Royal Jordon
    5* from £1450 Per person Dec 25-7th January.
    The Saudi airlines package is sold out but my partner company has seats available for Dec 26-7th January from Manchester.

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Eesa View Post
    Yes late December more pricey.
    I have 13 Nights tailored made package with Royal Jordon
    5* from £1450 Per person Dec 25-7th January.
    The Saudi airlines package is sold out but my partner company has seats available for Dec 26-7th January from Manchester.
    where in birmingham are you based?
    Surah Taha, Verse 69:

    وَأَلْقِ مَا فِي يَمِينِكَ تَلْقَفْ مَا صَنَعُوا إِنَّمَا صَنَعُوا كَيْدُ سَاحِرٍ وَلَا يُفْلِحُ السَّاحِرُ حَيْثُ أَتَىٰ

    "And throw that which is in your right hand! It will swallow up that which they have made. That which they have made is only a magician's trick,
    and the magician will never be successful, no matter whatever amount (of skill) he may attain."

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by Simply_Logical View Post
    where in birmingham are you based?
    Smethwick, 70 Windmill Lane

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Eesa View Post
    Smethwick, 70 Windmill Lane
    thats not too far, i might pop in if i get a chance
    Surah Taha, Verse 69:

    وَأَلْقِ مَا فِي يَمِينِكَ تَلْقَفْ مَا صَنَعُوا إِنَّمَا صَنَعُوا كَيْدُ سَاحِرٍ وَلَا يُفْلِحُ السَّاحِرُ حَيْثُ أَتَىٰ

    "And throw that which is in your right hand! It will swallow up that which they have made. That which they have made is only a magician's trick,
    and the magician will never be successful, no matter whatever amount (of skill) he may attain."

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by Simply_Logical View Post
    thats not too far, i might pop in if i get a chance

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Eesa View Post
    how do you go about getting a visa? is it a long process?
    Surah Taha, Verse 69:

    وَأَلْقِ مَا فِي يَمِينِكَ تَلْقَفْ مَا صَنَعُوا إِنَّمَا صَنَعُوا كَيْدُ سَاحِرٍ وَلَا يُفْلِحُ السَّاحِرُ حَيْثُ أَتَىٰ

    "And throw that which is in your right hand! It will swallow up that which they have made. That which they have made is only a magician's trick,
    and the magician will never be successful, no matter whatever amount (of skill) he may attain."

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by Simply_Logical View Post
    how do you go about getting a visa? is it a long process?
    Within 10 days visa is done you apply 30 days before travel.

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Eesa View Post
    Within 10 days visa is done you apply 30 days before travel.
    what do you need to apply for the visa? just the passport?
    Surah Taha, Verse 69:

    وَأَلْقِ مَا فِي يَمِينِكَ تَلْقَفْ مَا صَنَعُوا إِنَّمَا صَنَعُوا كَيْدُ سَاحِرٍ وَلَا يُفْلِحُ السَّاحِرُ حَيْثُ أَتَىٰ

    "And throw that which is in your right hand! It will swallow up that which they have made. That which they have made is only a magician's trick,
    and the magician will never be successful, no matter whatever amount (of skill) he may attain."

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by Simply_Logical View Post
    what do you need to apply for the visa? just the passport?
    Passport valid for more then 6 months from date of travel
    1 Passport size Photo
    Meningitis certificate.

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Eesa View Post
    Passport valid for more then 6 months from date of travel
    1 Passport size Photo
    Meningitis certificate.
    okay thanks

    just spoke to the doctor and hopefully i'll get the meningitis vaccine done next week
    Surah Taha, Verse 69:

    وَأَلْقِ مَا فِي يَمِينِكَ تَلْقَفْ مَا صَنَعُوا إِنَّمَا صَنَعُوا كَيْدُ سَاحِرٍ وَلَا يُفْلِحُ السَّاحِرُ حَيْثُ أَتَىٰ

    "And throw that which is in your right hand! It will swallow up that which they have made. That which they have made is only a magician's trick,
    and the magician will never be successful, no matter whatever amount (of skill) he may attain."

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by Simply_Logical View Post
    what do you need to apply for the visa? just the passport?
    A passport with a validity of 6 months on the date of your travel.

    An agent, using an RFID passport scanner, would not require anything else. However, if the facial feature has changed compared to the picture in your passport, than one recent picture will still be required.

    Agent who use non RFID scanner will need one recent picture.

    That's it folks. Nothing else, not even your medical certificate.

    Airline checkin staff of a few carriers stick strictly to the policy of scrutinising your medical certificate. You are advised to ensure you have it with you when reporting to the checkin desk at the airport.
    Last edited by Ismail Simjee; 16-10-17 at 07:08 PM.

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by Ismail Simjee View Post
    A passport with a validity of 6 months on the date of your travel.

    An agent, using an RFID passport scanner, would not require anything else. However, if the facial feature has changed compared to the picture in your passport, than one recent picture will still be required.

    Agent who use non RFID scanner will need one recent picture.

    That's it folks. Nothing else, not even your medical certificate.

    Airline checkin staff of a few carriers stick strictly to the policy of scrutinising your medical certificate. You are advised to ensure you have it with you when reporting to the checkin desk at the airport.
    ohh okay, do you have any offers for december time?

    do most of the travel agents have an rfid passport scanner?
    Surah Taha, Verse 69:

    وَأَلْقِ مَا فِي يَمِينِكَ تَلْقَفْ مَا صَنَعُوا إِنَّمَا صَنَعُوا كَيْدُ سَاحِرٍ وَلَا يُفْلِحُ السَّاحِرُ حَيْثُ أَتَىٰ

    "And throw that which is in your right hand! It will swallow up that which they have made. That which they have made is only a magician's trick,
    and the magician will never be successful, no matter whatever amount (of skill) he may attain."

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by Simply_Logical View Post
    ohh okay, do you have any offers for december time?

    do most of the travel agents have an rfid passport scanner?
    Send me a PM detailing your itenerary and wish list. InshaAllah I will try and assist.

    No, only a few agents have RFID scanners. That's why Abu Eesa stated attaching a picture with your passport as, apparently, he uses an agent who probably dont have that.

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by Ismail Simjee View Post
    Send me a PM detailing your itenerary and wish list. InshaAllah I will try and assist.

    No, only a few agents have RFID scanners. That's why Abu Eesa stated attaching a picture with your passport as, apparently, he uses an agent who probably dont have that.
    They do have just in case they need photo because facial features have changed.

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by Ismail Simjee View Post
    Send me a PM detailing your itenerary and wish list. InshaAllah I will try and assist.

    No, only a few agents have RFID scanners. That's why Abu Eesa stated attaching a picture with your passport as, apparently, he uses an agent who probably dont have that.
    ive sent you a PM
    Surah Taha, Verse 69:

    وَأَلْقِ مَا فِي يَمِينِكَ تَلْقَفْ مَا صَنَعُوا إِنَّمَا صَنَعُوا كَيْدُ سَاحِرٍ وَلَا يُفْلِحُ السَّاحِرُ حَيْثُ أَتَىٰ

    "And throw that which is in your right hand! It will swallow up that which they have made. That which they have made is only a magician's trick,
    and the magician will never be successful, no matter whatever amount (of skill) he may attain."

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by Simply_Logical View Post
    ive sent you a PM
    Got it.

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by Simply_Logical View Post
    i really want to get the sunnah hijamah done in madinah, is there quite a few places that do it?
    Hmm, Would like to know if there is one too over there.
    The one you asked about the food court in abraj, i think that's the clock tower place, yes at the upper levels there are a lot of food places.
    Swissotel is a part of the abraj al bait buildings.

    You may consider getting hotels near the mosques since you are bringing your mother along.
    Get ready medications etc. And travel insurance if necessary. Do take note of wheelchair services/knowhows also in both mosques, haramain. (for your mother in the event if she needs it)

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    I know a couple of places for hijama there.
    One is inside Dawoodia building on the NW of the masjid across from the 'ring' road. Very hospital like setup, they charge SR30 I think per cup. 3-4 cups is the Sunnah and you can get more cups based on what ails you.
    Another place is I think SR15 per cup. African brothers, about a 5min taxi ride away on Al-Awali Down Rd, Before Al Zahra hospital, In front of Al-Aliya Pump (reading the biz card I had taken a photo of).

    I've had it done both places, first at Dawoodia, then this other place. Both were fine. The 2nd place is cheaper. That's where I'd go again.

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    It depends on where you are going from. I've been a couple times before because we drive there and that makes it very cheap. I actually think I am going again this december as well, or in one of the coming holidays. But I think its cheaper to come from a western country then a muslim country. I don't know why. Hajj is way cheaper if I go from Canada then if I go from the UAE. Also I think there is a difference in price on whether you get a regular visa or a umrah visa.
    Last edited by aelmo; 20-10-17 at 09:01 AM.

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by lazy View Post
    I know a couple of places for hijama there.
    One is inside Dawoodia building on the NW of the masjid across from the 'ring' road. Very hospital like setup, they charge SR30 I think per cup. 3-4 cups is the Sunnah and you can get more cups based on what ails you.
    Another place is I think SR15 per cup. African brothers, about a 5min taxi ride away on Al-Awali Down Rd, Before Al Zahra hospital, In front of Al-Aliya Pump (reading the biz card I had taken a photo of).

    I've had it done both places, first at Dawoodia, then this other place. Both were fine. The 2nd place is cheaper. That's where I'd go again.
    thanks for the info
    Surah Taha, Verse 69:

    وَأَلْقِ مَا فِي يَمِينِكَ تَلْقَفْ مَا صَنَعُوا إِنَّمَا صَنَعُوا كَيْدُ سَاحِرٍ وَلَا يُفْلِحُ السَّاحِرُ حَيْثُ أَتَىٰ

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by lazy View Post
    I know a couple of places for hijama there.
    One is inside Dawoodia building on the NW of the masjid across from the 'ring' road. Very hospital like setup, they charge SR30 I think per cup. 3-4 cups is the Sunnah and you can get more cups based on what ails you.
    Another place is I think SR15 per cup. African brothers, about a 5min taxi ride away on Al-Awali Down Rd, Before Al Zahra hospital, In front of Al-Aliya Pump (reading the biz card I had taken a photo of).

    I've had it done both places, first at Dawoodia, then this other place. Both were fine. The 2nd place is cheaper. That's where I'd go again.
    Oh thanks for this.

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by aelmo View Post
    It depends on where you are going from. I've been a couple times before because we drive there and that makes it very cheap. I actually think I am going again this december as well, or in one of the coming holidays. But I think its cheaper to come from a western country then a muslim country. I don't know why. Hajj is way cheaper if I go from Canada then if I go from the UAE. Also I think there is a difference in price on whether you get a regular visa or a umrah visa.
    I still don't know what's the difference really(Visa). There is also the business visa. Sigh, i think i need to read more threads or so to understand that part.

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by MuslimThinker View Post
    I still don't know what's the difference really(Visa). There is also the business visa. Sigh, i think i need to read more threads or so to understand that part.
    I think the umrah visa is more expensive. But a lot of people just get a regular visa and go to umrah anyways.

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    so my cousin has got back to me, can you peeps tell me what you think?

    going from 7th december to the 17th ten nights

    - direct flights saudi airlines from heathrow
    - bed and breakfast
    - 6 Nights stay in 5* Hilton Convention Hotel or similar (Makkah)
    - 4 Nights stay in 5* Pullman Zam Zam Hotel or similar (Madinah)
    - Breakfast
    - Visa Acquisition
    - Ziyarat
    - Jummah in Makkah and Madinah
    - Full Round Transportation via Automated system

    heres is the website
    https://www.ibadahtours.com/umrah-1

    roughly will be £1299
    Last edited by Simply_Logical; 20-10-17 at 08:47 PM.
    Surah Taha, Verse 69:

    وَأَلْقِ مَا فِي يَمِينِكَ تَلْقَفْ مَا صَنَعُوا إِنَّمَا صَنَعُوا كَيْدُ سَاحِرٍ وَلَا يُفْلِحُ السَّاحِرُ حَيْثُ أَتَىٰ

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    is that per person for a double room.

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    if i look online, i think you can get better hotels for a cheaper price,
    i done a quick search.

    Flight saudia, skyscanner- 474*2 = 948
    Makkah 6 nights- amoma –swissotel= 636
    Medinah 4 nights – booking.com - Al Rawda Royal Inn – 500
    Visa- 80*2 = 160

    you can add transportation using vip saptaco bus and it will still be cheaper. also the makkah hilton hotel is up a hill and it could be distance to the kabba for your mother,

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by HusainIslam View Post
    is that per person for a double room.
    yea thats double room
    Surah Taha, Verse 69:

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    also if you want to take a flight back from madinah,
    you can use egypt air full round trip at £431, with a stop at cairo for 2 hour stop.

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by HusainIslam View Post
    if i look online, i think you can get better hotels for a cheaper price,
    i done a quick search.

    Flight saudia, skyscanner- 474*2 = 948
    Makkah 6 nights- amoma –swissotel= 636
    Medinah 4 nights – booking.com - Al Rawda Royal Inn – 500
    Visa- 80*2 = 160

    you can add transportation using vip saptaco bus and it will still be cheaper. also the makkah hilton hotel is up a hill and it could be distance to the kabba for your mother,
    id rather book all together as part of a group instead of doing it all by myself
    Surah Taha, Verse 69:

    وَأَلْقِ مَا فِي يَمِينِكَ تَلْقَفْ مَا صَنَعُوا إِنَّمَا صَنَعُوا كَيْدُ سَاحِرٍ وَلَا يُفْلِحُ السَّاحِرُ حَيْثُ أَتَىٰ

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    the offer also includes desert tour
    Surah Taha, Verse 69:

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    ask them if they can do a better hotel in makkah.

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    just a bit of a warning,
    i had a cousin who used ibadah tour this year,
    make sure to confirm what hotels you will be staying at ,
    as he had a lot of trouble as they changed it in the last minute and is was a lot different to what is was suppose to be.

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by HusainIslam View Post
    ask them if they can do a better hotel in makkah.
    isnt hilton convention one of the better ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by HusainIslam View Post
    just a bit of a warning,
    i had a cousin who used ibadah tour this year,
    make sure to confirm what hotels you will be staying at ,
    as he had a lot of trouble as they changed it in the last minute and is was a lot different to what is was suppose to be.
    thanks for the heads up
    Surah Taha, Verse 69:

    وَأَلْقِ مَا فِي يَمِينِكَ تَلْقَفْ مَا صَنَعُوا إِنَّمَا صَنَعُوا كَيْدُ سَاحِرٍ وَلَا يُفْلِحُ السَّاحِرُ حَيْثُ أَتَىٰ

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    yes, it might be a brand new hotel but for that price at a non peak time, you should be getting something better.
    if you would like to go and pray most salah in the mataf, it can be a walk.

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by Simply_Logical View Post
    so my cousin has got back to me, can you peeps tell me what you think?

    going from 7th december to the 17th ten nights

    - direct flights saudi airlines from heathrow
    - bed and breakfast
    - 6 Nights stay in 5* Hilton Convention Hotel or similar (Makkah)
    - 4 Nights stay in 5* Pullman Zam Zam Hotel or similar (Madinah)
    - Breakfast
    - Visa Acquisition
    - Ziyarat
    - Jummah in Makkah and Madinah
    - Full Round Transportation via Automated system

    heres is the website
    https://www.ibadahtours.com/umrah-1

    roughly will be £1299
    Personally the Hilton Convention is on a hill and the pullman zam zam is a fair walk for ladies and kids but it's whatever suits you

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by Simply_Logical View Post
    so my cousin has got back to me, can you peeps tell me what you think?

    going from 7th december to the 17th ten nights

    - direct flights saudi airlines from heathrow
    - bed and breakfast
    - 6 Nights stay in 5* Hilton Convention Hotel or similar (Makkah)
    - 4 Nights stay in 5* Pullman Zam Zam Hotel or similar (Madinah)
    - Breakfast
    - Visa Acquisition
    - Ziyarat
    - Jummah in Makkah and Madinah
    - Full Round Transportation via Automated system

    heres is the website
    https://www.ibadahtours.com/umrah-1

    roughly will be £1299
    Makkah hotel
    The makkah hotel seems ok however there are crossing roads there, and I'm not sure how its there.
    this looks near to the expansion area. Rarely travel to that area. They have like construction going on like here and there, so sometimes you have to go around it.
    Mine is more to the east side. so the entrance i really go to is near the king abdul aziz gate area.


    Madinah hotel
    5* Pullman Zam Zam Hotel or similar (Madinah) is much more closer to the men's area.
    So your mum has to travel quite a distance to get to the woman's area. So i don't really agree.
    It depends, if she don't mind walking the distance. (able to)


    I would recommend the area near madinah hilton, dar al taqwa. This is more closer to the woman's area.
    Its near bin dawood too(the shopping place)
    If you see google maps, even though some hotels look near, but in actual fact it may be quite the distance.
    Because masjid nabawi is really huge. (same goes for masjidil haram)


    Itinery and price
    I look at the price and its ok, not bad.
    Noticed there is quad biking as well.
    For me and my mother would say this at times also, and I agree, that we don't mind paying more for getting a much more nearer hotel and/or better quality assurance service.
    So the reviews and testimonials are important. Go to facebook if necessary.
    That is really important alongside other things for such a journey as Umrah. Something to consider.
    Take note, for the itinery, at times due to time constraint some places may get skipped.
    The ziyarah, (it was just mentioned ziyarah) but what are the places, so you may want to compare with others where they are going.


    you may need to ask thoroughly with the agent as well for the many admin matters.

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    just a quick update, i had my meningitis injection done today and got to collect the certificate tomorrow
    Surah Taha, Verse 69:

    وَأَلْقِ مَا فِي يَمِينِكَ تَلْقَفْ مَا صَنَعُوا إِنَّمَا صَنَعُوا كَيْدُ سَاحِرٍ وَلَا يُفْلِحُ السَّاحِرُ حَيْثُ أَتَىٰ

    "And throw that which is in your right hand! It will swallow up that which they have made. That which they have made is only a magician's trick,
    and the magician will never be successful, no matter whatever amount (of skill) he may attain."

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    If I was travelling , both hotels would have been fine for me as I don't mind walking. Both hotels are good in terms of facilities and quality.

    However if I was travelling with my elderly mother in law , I wouldn't choose Zam Zam Madina due to the distance from ladies entrance and Hilton convention due to the steep walk.






    Quote Originally Posted by Simply_Logical View Post
    so my cousin has got back to me, can you peeps tell me what you think?

    going from 7th december to the 17th ten nights

    - direct flights saudi airlines from heathrow
    - bed and breakfast
    - 6 Nights stay in 5* Hilton Convention Hotel or similar (Makkah)
    - 4 Nights stay in 5* Pullman Zam Zam Hotel or similar (Madinah)
    - Breakfast
    - Visa Acquisition
    - Ziyarat
    - Jummah in Makkah and Madinah
    - Full Round Transportation via Automated system

    heres is the website
    https://www.ibadahtours.com/umrah-1

    roughly will be £1299

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    Re: i want to go umrah never been before

    Quote Originally Posted by SAK1983 View Post
    If I was travelling , both hotels would have been fine for me as I don't mind walking. Both hotels are good in terms of facilities and quality.

    However if I was travelling with my elderly mother in law , I wouldn't choose Zam Zam Madina due to the distance from ladies entrance and Hilton convention due to the steep walk.
    Same.

    For december the quote is reasobable keeping in mind its peak time.

    Both hotels are new, very nice but distant is an issue.

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    got my meningitis certificate today so thats all sorted for myself

    Quote Originally Posted by SAK1983 View Post
    If I was travelling , both hotels would have been fine for me as I don't mind walking. Both hotels are good in terms of facilities and quality.

    However if I was travelling with my elderly mother in law , I wouldn't choose Zam Zam Madina due to the distance from ladies entrance and Hilton convention due to the steep walk.
    Quote Originally Posted by taqwa435 View Post
    Same.

    For december the quote is reasobable keeping in mind its peak time.

    Both hotels are new, very nice but distant is an issue.
    ive spoke to my cousin and ive mentioned that the hotels will be a bit of an issue

    hes given me a quote for going on my own without a group but id prefer a group
    Surah Taha, Verse 69:

    وَأَلْقِ مَا فِي يَمِينِكَ تَلْقَفْ مَا صَنَعُوا إِنَّمَا صَنَعُوا كَيْدُ سَاحِرٍ وَلَا يُفْلِحُ السَّاحِرُ حَيْثُ أَتَىٰ

    "And throw that which is in your right hand! It will swallow up that which they have made. That which they have made is only a magician's trick,
    and the magician will never be successful, no matter whatever amount (of skill) he may attain."

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