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    Umra 1438

    Ministry of Haj has activated the prcessing of MOFAs for the new season as of 16 September this year.

    Agents who held umra contract last year will be able to start processing mofas, on their previous year's contract, immediately as long as their Saudi Peers activates their login system forthwith. For example if an agent A is active today, he can scan your passport and acquire mofa within 24 hours and submit your passport for visa to the saudi consulate on the next working day and get back the passport the next day enabling you to fly off immediately you get the passport back.

    ALL new entrants will pay just the mofa charges. Thereafter, any repeaters will pay SR2000 visa fee.

    Different Umra Companies have different policy on the length of your stay once you arrive in KSA. Normally it is for a maximum of 15 days depending on the umra company's resources of hotels but can be up to 30 days. The mofa charges will reflect the number of days allowed to you to stay.

    Lots of pilgrims, from UK, choose a DIY package. Please take care as not all umra agents will oblige you with a visa only because you have engineered your own package. Those who do oblige will have their own mofa charges to cover their cost as you bypass their package.

    Airline fares may vary and, if you are not careful, are often non changeable and non refundable especially if you get an online air fare instead of getting through ticketing agents.

    From the month of 1st Safar 1438AH new contracts will set in and a quota of 5000 per contracted licensed agent will apply as a ceiling. Popular umra agents will definitely run out of their quota pretty soon with the consequence of higher mofa charges.

    I suspect mofas may cost around £100 each at least.

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    Re: Umra 1438

    Quote Originally Posted by kabir75 View Post
    If the House of Saud was living frugally and not abusing the wealth that Allah has bestowed upon the Holy land I would totally agree with your assessment Ismail chacha.. but when the house of Saud lives a lavish lifestyle and then implements this extra fee it somehow just doesn't feel right. That's just my opinion. May Allah guide all who abuse their people and live lavish lifestyles.
    I put my thoughts based on reality of facts less royal politics. No rulers of any country, today, are free from lavish spending with the tentacles extended to all near and distant relatives, close friends and other autocrats. The house of saud, therefore, is no exception.

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    Re: Umra 1438

    Quote Originally Posted by HusainIslam View Post
    they should tax the hotels, flight companies.
    some of theses hotels charge thousands per nights in hajj, ramadan and peak times.
    it will cover the cost. by introducing the charge, a lot of people will not go and they will then lose more money.
    someone should check what is the percentage of the people who are yearly repeaters, i would expect more than 30%.
    Yes, its on the cards and applicable as of 1st January 2018. And its not only the hotels and airliners but almost everything that generates or powers the economy including the street sweeper.

    I wont be surprised if they apply VAT on the visa too. And, the mofa rate will probably double to what it is fetching now as compulsory insurance will be added to mofas for all overseas visitors.

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    Re: Umra 1438



    Is the repeaters fee of 2000 SR in definitely in place now?
    وَالْعَصْرِ

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    Re: Umra 1438

    Quote Originally Posted by Jenicca View Post


    Is the repeaters fee of 2000 SR in definitely in place now?


    yea its in place now
    Surah Taha, Verse 69:

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    Re: Umra 1438

    Quote Originally Posted by Simply_Logical View Post


    yea its in place now
    Alhumdollilah
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    إِلَّا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ وَتَوَاصَوْا بِالْحَقِّ وَتَوَاصَوْا بِالصَّبْرِ

    "If Allah (swt) only sent this Surah to us, for the guidance of Mankind, this will be enough for us” - Imam Shaafi'ee r.a.

    "Yeh dunya daar e faani hain, Tum apna dil mat lagaon, Ganimat samaj zinadagee ki bahar, aana na hoga, yahaa baar baar......"

    Khanqah Habibiyah

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    Re: Umra 1438

    Quote Originally Posted by lazy View Post
    Shoaib bhai,
    That was true when answered then.

    Yesterday's news is if you went last year for Umrah (1438) and want to go this year (1439), then there is a SR 2000 repeater fee to pay.
    So is there any time frame when one can visit without paying the extra SR 2000 or is this going to be addressed on a yearly basis?

    Alhumdoulillah i went Easter 2017 (1438) & insha allah would like to go again

    jzk
    الله مستعان

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    Re: Umra 1438

    Quote Originally Posted by shoaibd View Post
    So is there any time frame when one can visit without paying the extra SR 2000 or is this going to be addressed on a yearly basis?

    Alhumdoulillah i went Easter 2017 (1438) & insha allah would like to go again

    jzk
    If the current rule is unchanged in 1440, it will mean (as I understand it) that those who have not gone for Umrah in 1439 will not have to pay the Repeater Fee of SR2000 if they are going for Umrah in 1440. This is based on my understanding that "this" year's rule says if you went in 1438 and it did not mention 'last 3 years' or "1437 or 1438". And, again, that's IF they have the SAME rule next year as they do this year.

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    Re: Umra 1438

    Quote Originally Posted by lazy View Post
    If the current rule is unchanged in 1440, it will mean (as I understand it) that those who have not gone for Umrah in 1439 will not have to pay the Repeater Fee of SR2000 if they are going for Umrah in 1440. This is based on my understanding that "this" year's rule says if you went in 1438 and it did not mention 'last 3 years' or "1437 or 1438". And, again, that's IF they have the SAME rule next year as they do this year.
    That is a correct analogy. But, then, our Saudi brothers retain the trophy for being the most un-predictable of them all.

 

 

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