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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by abufulaans View Post
    He did what seems to be kufr there, but none was clear kufr, in which case it would have to be made clear to him before takfeer is made for these issues alone, maybe that's what spicen means
    He seemed to
    1) Deny offensive jihad
    2) Deny slavery except in Qisaas
    3) Side with kuffar by his words
    If he actually believed that the Ottomans were islamically wrong to conquer Konstantiniyye or the devsirme system,etc there would be an excuse.

    But he is deliberately misuguiding muslims and following the orthodox Christian Russian playscript to the letter.

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Jarir View Post
    He's a Khawarij dog, kind to disbelievers but harsh towards believers
    You are a comic character.

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicen View Post
    If he actually believed that the Ottomans were islamically wrong to conquer Konstantiniyye or the devsirme system,etc there would be an excuse.

    But he is deliberately misuguiding muslims and following the orthodox Christian Russian playscript to the letter.
    He's lost it, he's the opposite of coconut American 'imams'
    ''If the bedouins and city dwellers were to fight between themselves until they wipe each other out, it will surely be less significant than them appointing a taghoot in the land which rules by that which is against the Shari'ah of Islaam which Allah sent his Messenger ﷺ with'' - Sheikh Sulayman bin Sahmaan

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Bidrohi Ronoklanto View Post
    You are a comic character.
    No he's right, you cannot sympathise with mushrikeen and criticize Muslims like that
    Rather you should support the conquests and say, at most, that mistakes were made, if there were any
    ''If the bedouins and city dwellers were to fight between themselves until they wipe each other out, it will surely be less significant than them appointing a taghoot in the land which rules by that which is against the Shari'ah of Islaam which Allah sent his Messenger ﷺ with'' - Sheikh Sulayman bin Sahmaan

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by abufulaans View Post
    Your love for mushriks is absolutely disgusting
    I have a bigger hatred for skinheads, nazis, fascists, supremacists and the likes (such as arab nationalists). Many things in the Islamic history and the current saga in the Islamic world must be seen through the lenses of arab fascists, otherwise no one will get a proper understanding of the matter.

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Bidrohi Ronoklanto View Post
    You are a comic character.
    And you're going to Hell

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by abufulaans View Post
    No he's right, you cannot sympathise with mushrikeen and criticize Muslims like that
    Rather you should support the conquests and say, at most, that mistakes were made, if there were any
    That is exactly what I have been saying? He is a comic character for failing to see that, more because he seems to consider Saddam as some kind of hero.

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Bidrohi Ronoklanto View Post
    I have a bigger hatred for skinheads, nazis, fascists, supremacists and the likes (such as arab nationalists). Many things in the Islamic history and the current saga in the Islamic world must be seen through the lenses of arab fascists, otherwise no one will get a proper understanding of the matter.
    Get over it lol when someone starts screaming about Fascists and Nazis they are clearly Libtard pawns

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Jarir View Post
    And you're going to Hell
    Did you recently purchase hell and giving free tickets?

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Bidrohi Ronoklanto View Post
    Did you recently purchase hell and giving free tickets?
    Yes

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Jarir View Post
    Yes
    Lol. Go spend time there, don't waste my time quoting me.

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by abufulaans View Post
    He's lost it, he's the opposite of coconut American 'imams'
    I don't remember any sunni scholar in USA making takfir on ottomans or other muslims in the past. This guy's worse.

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicen View Post
    I don't remember any sunni scholar in USA making takfir on ottomans or other muslims in the past. This guy's worse.
    Did he make takfir on the ottomans?

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Bidrohi Ronoklanto View Post
    Did he make takfir on the ottomans?
    I said before, he says its empire of anti-Christ, hence their rulers are also anti-Christ/dajjalic which means they are not muslims.

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Bidrohi Ronoklanto View Post
    Lol. Go spend time there, don't waste my time quoting me.
    I don't need too I already prepared it special for you

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicen View Post
    I said before, he says its empire of anti-Christ, hence their rulers are also anti-Christ/dajjalic which means they are not muslims.
    I thought I had already seen all vids of Imran Hussein. This is new to me, I am aware he wasn't happy about turning Hagui Sofia into a mosque, but I didn't know he is now calling them anti-christ.

    Ok I will watch the vids.

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Jarir View Post
    I don't need too I already prepared it special for you
    You have now declared yourself the owner of Jahannam. The owner of Jahannam is Allah, so you have committed kufr. make tawba.

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Bidrohi Ronoklanto View Post
    I thought I had already seen all vids of Imran Hussein. This is new to me, I am aware he wasn't happy about turning Hagui Sofia into a mosque, but I didn't know he is now calling them anti-christ.

    Ok I will watch the vids.
    It's in the 11 min video I posted in the OP.

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Bidrohi Ronoklanto View Post
    You have now declared yourself the owner of Jahannam. The owner of Jahannam is Allah, so you have committed kufr. make tawba.
    You're a Kufar I was merely entertaining you're stupidity it's not my problem you can't comprehend simple sarcasm

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicen View Post
    It's in the 11 min video I posted in the OP.
    He didn't actually call them anti-Christ. But he is saying they did the job of the anti-christ, which is wrong anyway.

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Jarir View Post
    You're a Kufar I was merely entertaining you're stupidity it's not my problem you can't comprehend simple sarcasm
    You see you are so easy to put in your place? Now you are running with tail between your legs.

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Bidrohi Ronoklanto View Post
    You see you are so easy to put in your place? Now you are running with tail between your legs.
    lol that's a really arrogant statement already claiming a victory? No bro you're a loser you're just angry that everyone uses you to mop the floor and come on here to stimulate your repressed emotions that's why you Hate Arabs and have identity problems as a Munafiq 'Muslim' you're pathetic tbh

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Bidrohi Ronoklanto View Post
    He didn't actually call them anti-Christ. But he is saying they did the job of the anti-christ, which is wrong anyway.
    3 min 15s

    He says, "It wasn't an Islamic ottoman empire, it was an ottoman empire created by the anti-Christ to do the dirty work for him."

    4 min 15

    He says, "That's why we say they were acting on behalf of anti-Christ."

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Jarir View Post
    lol that's a really arrogant statement already claiming a victory? No bro you're a loser you're just angry that everyone uses you to mop the floor and come on here to stimulate your repressed emotions that's why you Hate Arabs and have identity problems as a Munafiq 'Muslim' you're pathetic tbh
    Just then you called me kafir, now calling me "bro". Make up your mind.

    You are a comic character.

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Bidrohi Ronoklanto View Post
    Just then you called me kafir, now calling me "bro". Make up your mind.

    You are a comic character.
    Lol rudimentary semantics now I may be a cartoon at least people look to me for entertainment you on the other hand are a pathetic moron who everyone walks on

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicen View Post
    3 min 15s

    He says, "It wasn't an Islamic ottoman empire, it was an ottoman empire created by the anti-Christ to do the dirty work for him."

    4 min 15

    He says, "That's why we say they were acting on behalf of anti-Christ."
    Yes I know. But he didn't call them anti-christ. Not excusing hij, what he said is already bad enough and I totally disagree with him, but I am not sure that's enough to do takfir on him. But this opinion of his seems to be very new, I have been listening to his videos for at least 5/6 years, never heard he saying such things. I though he had a few screws loose, now it looks like they have gone missing. lol

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Jarir View Post
    Lol rudimentary semantics now I may be a cartoon at least people look to me for entertainment you on the other hand are a pathetic moron who everyone walks on
    Ok. You failed to walk on me so far.

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Bidrohi Ronoklanto View Post
    Yes I know. But he didn't call them anti-christ. Not excusing hij, what he said is already bad enough and I totally disagree with him, but I am not sure that's enough to do takfir on him. But this opinion of his seems to be very new, I have been listening to his videos for at least 5/6 years, never heard he saying such things. I though he had a few screws loose, now it looks like they have gone missing. lol
    Wait so if ottomans are agents of Dajjal and acting on behalf of Dajjal to do his dirty work how on earth are they muslims? Ofcourse, he's making clearcut takfir on them. Duh.

    And add to his bootlicking of orthodox Christians who are our enemies since the days of Heraclius and all that garbage about "innocent" orthodox Christians. Whoever makes takfir on muslims is a disbeliever himself. And he made takfir on some of the best muslims from the 1300s to 1800s, this alone should be self-explanatory.
    Last edited by Spicen; 25-08-17 at 09:49 AM.

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Bidrohi Ronoklanto View Post
    Ok. You failed to walk on me so far.
    Trust me I don't need or want too my shoes don't need the filth however society has already done that to you because you're a pathetic key board warrior

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicen View Post
    Wait so if ottomans are agents of Dajjal and acting on behalf of Dajjal to do his dirty work how on earth are they muslims? Ofcourse, he's making clearcut takfir on them. Duh.
    I don't think he made a clear takfir on the ottomans. What you are inferring is far fetched.

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Jarir View Post
    Trust me I don't need or want too my shoes don't need the filth however society has already done that to you because you're a pathetic key board warrior
    Ok I trust you, I trust you. Now that you have totally destroyed me, go find another kafir to destroy, put your time to good use.

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Bidrohi Ronoklanto View Post
    Ok I trust you, I trust you. Now that you have totally destroyed me, go find another kafir to destroy, put your time to good use.
    Lol why don't you get a job in Dubai

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Bidrohi Ronoklanto View Post
    I don't think he made a clear takfir on the ottomans. What you are inferring is far fetched.
    How is it far fetched? If I declare you an enemy of islam I'm automatically also making takfir on you (Example).

    He is saying ottomans were agents working for one of the greatest enemy of muslims.

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Jarir View Post
    Lol why don't you get a job in Dubai
    Lol....I have a better job in Australia.

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Bidrohi Ronoklanto View Post
    Lol....I have a better job in Australia.
    So you got upgraded from ditch digger to janitor?

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Bidrohi Ronoklanto View Post
    Lol....I have a better job in Australia.
    You're going to get banned again. Leave this argument please.

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Jarir View Post
    So you got upgraded from ditch digger to janitor?
    I have never dug ditch in Dubai, so failed to get a promotion as a janitor.

    I sadly started my first job as a computer engineer. In future I have great hope to be promoted to be a toilet cleaner in Dubai. For that the Arab Khilafah must be established first, I am currently busy making dua so the Arab kalifate is established. Hope it comes soon, the sooner it comes the earlier I get my promotion.

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicen View Post
    You're going to get banned again. Leave this argument please.
    Why man? I am not insulting anyone, this guys is insulting me instead.

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Bidrohi Ronoklanto View Post
    I have never dug ditch in Dubai, so failed to get a promotion as a janitor.

    I sadly started my first job as a computer engineer. In future I have great hope to be promoted to be a toilet cleaner in Dubai. For that the Arab Khilafah must be established first, I am currently busy making dua so the Arab kalifate is established. Hope it comes soon, the sooner it comes the earlier I get my promotion.
    Cool

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    Re: Ayatollah Imran Hossein: Ottoman Empire was Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Bidrohi Ronoklanto View Post
    Why man? I am not insulting anyone, this guys is insulting me instead.
    There is also a form of Political correctness on UF and you're on the wrong side of it (even if you think you're right).

 

 

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