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    Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    So I told her to only eat what's halal. But she just tells me she picks and chooses...whatever dat means. She eats outside meat from like fast food places and such. I understand there's some school of thought that allows u or something.

    Idk...wut do I do?

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Can you provide evidence of any of the 4 classical madhabs saying this as ive never heard of madhabs promoting this before also is your wife muslim?

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu julaybeeb View Post
    Can you provide evidence of any of the 4 classical madhabs saying this as ive never heard of madhabs promoting this before also is your wife muslim?
    Yes she is. Idk I know someone who said they're allowed to eat outside meat cuz their school of thought or something

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Don't you check these things before you get married.
    I mean seriously

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by muzzybee View Post
    Don't you check these things before you get married.
    I mean seriously
    I forgot. I would assume she would eat halal only. I played myself...

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Forbid her from eating non-halal foods. Forbid her from going out alone, and make sure you go and purchase halal food and keep the fridge stocked. In this day and age, halal food is accessible to most people. Even if you live in the West, plenty of Muslims sell halal, and if not, you can stick to fish, beans and legumes. Show her this video, and kindly explain to her how Allah has forbidden this type of meat, and that the Islamic meat is kinder to the animals. Do not yell at her, and try to be calm when you discuss this with her.

    Explain to her that we are allowed to eat the meat of the Christians and the Jews, if they follow their religious rules of slaughtering their animals. The stuff you find at local grocery stores, and restaurants are not slaughtered according to any religion except that of the Religion of Shaytaan. Also, if Halal is available, it should be prioritized before kuffar products.

    Make sure to purge your house from haram, and read ingredients on all lables. Many products have haram ingredients in them, like gelatin and alcohol.

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhed View Post
    I forgot. I would assume she would eat halal only. I played myself...
    Does she pray salah and practice Islam?

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

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    Does she pray salah and practice Islam?
    She does

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhed View Post
    So I told her to only eat what's halal. But she just tells me she picks and chooses...whatever dat means. She eats outside meat from like fast food places and such. I understand there's some school of thought that allows u or something.

    Idk...wut do I do?
    So, a week ago you weren't married (http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthrea...=1#post7445288). Guess you married this lady. Anyway, congrats.

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhed View Post
    Yes she is. Idk I know someone who said they're allowed to eat outside meat cuz their school of thought or something
    I dont think this is real brother no madhab will say it is ok t eat non halal meat the only time you can do that is in extreme cases where for example there is nothing else and you are going to die in thisbcase known as daroora

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by muzzybee View Post
    Don't you check these things before you get married.
    I mean seriously
    Who checks if a person eats halal meat i mean you would assume every muslim eats halal meat unless they look like a kaafir and act like one

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhed View Post
    She does
    What is your definition of practising islam as from this thread and the other one its not looking good for you

    You have to try and educate her in Islam and instill that love and fear of Allah otherwise its gonna be a hard road ahead of you for your relationship with your wife

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhed View Post
    So I told her to only eat what's halal. But she just tells me she picks and chooses...whatever dat means. She eats outside meat from like fast food places and such. I understand there's some school of thought that allows u or something.

    Idk...wut do I do?
    I think she is referring to meat slaughtered by the people of the book.

    I would get the opinion of a scholar you both have confidence in to explain how this doesnt apply in this day and age,

    If this goes on think of what impact it will have on your kids.

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhed View Post
    So I told her to only eat what's halal. But she just tells me she picks and chooses...whatever dat means. She eats outside meat from like fast food places and such. I understand there's some school of thought that allows u or something.

    Idk...wut do I do?
    Did you not check this things before you married her???
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    You could be sleeping and the doors of the heavens are being opened with dua’as being made on your behalf, SubhanAllaah: perhaps from someone poor whom you helped, or someone sad whom you brought joy, or someone passing by and you smiled at him, or someone in distress and you removed it.. so don’t ever underestimate any good deeds."



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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muslima London View Post
    Did you not check this things before you married her???
    ignore qustions.

    realised that muzzybee asked the same.....
    Ibnul Qayyim رحمه الله said: "Don’t ruin your happiness with worry, and don’t ruin your mind with pessimism. Don’t ruin your success with deception and don’t ruin the optimism of others by destroying it. Don’t ruin your day by looking back at yesterday.
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    You could be sleeping and the doors of the heavens are being opened with dua’as being made on your behalf, SubhanAllaah: perhaps from someone poor whom you helped, or someone sad whom you brought joy, or someone passing by and you smiled at him, or someone in distress and you removed it.. so don’t ever underestimate any good deeds."



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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muslima London View Post
    ignore qustions.

    realised that muzzybee asked the same.....
    It is still worth asking again.
    There must be other deficiencies in her deen which leads to her not being concerned about the permissibility of what she eats ....how did you overlook that?

    Anyway you should probably get someone with knowledge to explain to her that what she is doing is impermissible.
    It doesn't sound like there is much use in you speaking to her, by all means still do though, but also ensure someone of knowledge speaks to her on the matter or even give her a book or show her a video on the topic.

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhed View Post
    She does
    Many of what you say dont relate, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt...
    First of all, you need to advise her... if she is your 'new' wife then give her time... encourage her to engage upon acts of worship and take her out to lectures where real knowledge exists...
    Trying to change her at once may not work... so give it time... and give her advise that knowingly eating haraam is going to be harmful to her Iman and her a'maal...

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    I know of a Muslim couple, not very practicing but not very liberal either, who would recite bismillah before consuming any (non-pork) meat outside. When we came to know of it, we asked them for their reasoning and they said they thought reading bismillah... before eating anything makes it halal. They do, thankfully, know that pork is haram. Anyway, maybe the opening poster's wife holds the same belief?

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhed View Post
    I forgot. I would assume she would eat halal only. I played myself...
    hahahhaha.
    The one Question you forgot to ask.
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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu julaybeeb View Post
    What is your definition of practising islam as from this thread and the other one its not looking good for you

    You have to try and educate her in Islam and instill that love and fear of Allah otherwise its gonna be a hard road ahead of you for your relationship with your wife
    well don't we all have weakness?If shs prays and does everything else but perhaps this is her error and one weakness.
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    Make me a stronger person today. Make me a better person out of all these. It is no longer bearable for me for my heart is aching and You are the only One who knows how I feel. Nothing is making sense to myself and for anyone else for that matter especially to the one person I wish to understand me better than anybody else.
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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Im not saying we dont have weaknesses or mistakes everyones imaan goes up and down im just sayn doing what the 5 pillars say might not be enough we have to strive to do more some people will go jahannam after being good their whole life but that 1 deed at the end ruined them. The prophet said jannah is closer to you than your shoelace and so is jahannam. So we have to go above and beyond

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    My didi's ex was like this. He did pray and fast etc, but he'd eat meat from any fast food etc as long as it wasn't pork. We did try to talk to him about this but he'd spent half of his life in the US, where some celebrity sheikhs follow the view that "we can eat the meat of Jews and Christians" and take that to mean any non porcine meat from supermarkets and fast food chains that are owned by Jews or Christians. It's simply absurd. I've come across a lot of Muslims who think like this, especially those in the US. Also I once met a practising Egyptian lady who bought haram meat from Tesco cos' "big sheikh on TV says it's okay". Once they get a fatwa of approval from their sheikhs, they feel they have carte blanche to eat any meat they want from any store for the sake of their own convenience.

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhed View Post
    So I told her to only eat what's halal. But she just tells me she picks and chooses...whatever dat means. She eats outside meat from like fast food places and such. I understand there's some school of thought that allows u or something.

    Idk...wut do I do?
    Tell her to stop and tell her she'll get fat eating junk food.

    Quote Originally Posted by neelu View Post
    My didi's ex was like this. He did pray and fast etc, but he'd eat meat from any fast food etc as long as it wasn't pork. We did try to talk to him about this but he'd spent half of his life in the US, where some celebrity sheikhs follow the view that "we can eat the meat of Jews and Christians" and take that to mean any non porcine meat from supermarkets and fast food chains that are owned by Jews or Christians. It's simply absurd. I've come across a lot of Muslims who think like this, especially those in the US. Also I once met a practising Egyptian lady who bought haram meat from Tesco cos' "big sheikh on TV says it's okay". Once they get a fatwa of approval from their sheikhs, they feel they have carte blanche to eat any meat they want from any store for the sake of their own convenience.
    What's a didi?

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ekoor View Post
    I think she is referring to meat slaughtered by the people of the book.

    I would get the opinion of a scholar you both have confidence in to explain how this doesnt apply in this day and age,

    If this goes on think of what impact it will have on your kids.

    What do you mean it doesn't apply in this day and age?

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhed View Post
    So I told her to only eat what's halal. But she just tells me she picks and chooses...whatever dat means. She eats outside meat from like fast food places and such. I understand there's some school of thought that allows u or something.

    Idk...wut do I do?
    Are you even married to her?

    Quote Originally Posted by Poster View Post
    What do you mean it doesn't apply in this day and age?
    What day and age?

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Poster View Post
    What do you mean it doesn't apply in this day and age?
    He meant that christians of today dont follow the Book as of former times. So they basically eat meat which hasnt been slaughtered in the name of Allah.
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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morose View Post
    Are you even married to her?



    What day and age?

    This day and age

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sky Lark View Post
    He meant that christians of today dont follow the Book as of former times. So they basically eat meat which hasnt been slaughtered in the name of Allah.
    Why can't people just stick in the main to daal and roti, everything would be so much more simpler!?!

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sister_2009 View Post
    So, a week ago you weren't married (http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthrea...=1#post7445288). Guess you married this lady. Anyway, congrats.
    You should seriously consider being a mod. Not joking.

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicen View Post
    You should seriously consider being a mod. Not joking.
    I was once a mod on another site (professional, not religious). It didn't go well. I blocked the IP address of another mod that I didn't like, and they could not access the site. It did not go over well. Ha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicen View Post
    You should seriously consider being a mod. Not joking.
    Can't see that working...you need good control of your emotions.

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by zi-zizou View Post
    Why can't people just stick in the main to daal and roti, everything would be so much more simpler!?!
    Lol, true!

    Its probably because they cant make roti :]
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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sky Lark View Post
    Lol, true!

    Its probably because they cant make roti :]
    What in the world!!!

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhed View Post
    I forgot. I would assume she would eat halal only. I played myself...
    You need Forbid her from eating Haraam foods, if she doesn't listen, get her parents and tours involved and set her straight,

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by neelu View Post
    My didi's ex was like this. He did pray and fast etc, but he'd eat meat from any fast food etc as long as it wasn't pork. We did try to talk to him about this but he'd spent half of his life in the US, where some celebrity sheikhs follow the view that "we can eat the meat of Jews and Christians" and take that to mean any non porcine meat from supermarkets and fast food chains that are owned by Jews or Christians. It's simply absurd. I've come across a lot of Muslims who think like this, especially those in the US. Also I once met a practising Egyptian lady who bought haram meat from Tesco cos' "big sheikh on TV says it's okay". Once they get a fatwa of approval from their sheikhs, they feel they have carte blanche to eat any meat they want from any store for the sake of their own convenience.
    These "celebrity Sheikhs" aka Deviants will carry the sin of consuming Haraam meat, every time the person says it,

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by patient believer View Post
    well don't we all have weakness?If shs prays and does everything else but perhaps this is her error and one weakness.
    It's ridiculous, what you're sort of compelled to walk into these haram fast food places and consume junk like you just can't help yourself!?!

    If you like this sort of food you can easily make better at home. It's not a hardship.

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

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    Not 'that' day and age bro.

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

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    He meant that christians of today dont follow the Book as of former times. So they basically eat meat which hasnt been slaughtered in the name of Allah.
    Many Christians in various countries still follow their book, and so do many Jews.

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

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    Not 'that' day and age bro.
    Then I fail to understand 'what' day and age you're talking about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Poster View Post
    Many Christians in various countries still follow their book, and so do many Jews.
    True, but hardly many in the west though.

    Quote Originally Posted by patient believer View Post
    well don't we all have weakness?If shs prays and does everything else but perhaps this is her error and one weakness.
    This isn't just some 'weakness' though, it's a grave matter that cannot be overlooked so easily.

    Anyway OP is a fantasy by the way, not real.
    Last edited by Morose; 30-07-17 at 02:04 PM.

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    Re: Wife doesn't always eat halal. Wut do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morose View Post
    Then I fail to understand 'what' day and age you're talking about.
    'This' particular day and age.

    I hope that has clarified things.



    Quote Originally Posted by Morose View Post
    True, but hardly many in the west though.
    True, but we don't know where the OP lives.

 

 

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