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    How do you get perfect circles with so many people?




    I've just watched dhuhr prayer at Makkah. How does everyone who was previously walking around the Qibla (?) in a random style, all suddenly arrange themselves into exact circles - are there lines on the floor?

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    Re: How do you get perfect circles with so many people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rifqah View Post



    I've just watched dhuhr prayer at Makkah. How does everyone who was previously walking around the Qibla (?) in a random style, all suddenly arrange themselves into exact circles - are there lines on the floor?
    :
    Idk but i see this as a miracle of islam from Allah
    Can you see any other faith able to get thousands upon thousands of its people to pray in such cohesion and unison with zero effort
    It would be a logistical nightmare for them.
    With us it's effortless
    It may not be easy, you may not understand it, but you need to have the Imaan to trust Allah when life doesn't make sense.
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    Re: How do you get perfect circles with so many people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rifqah View Post



    I've just watched dhuhr prayer at Makkah. How does everyone who was previously walking around the Qibla (?) in a random style, all suddenly arrange themselves into exact circles - are there lines on the floor?
    Wa Alaikum Salaam

    cos they're facing the Kaba?
    وَاقْصِدْ فِي مَشْيِكَ وَاغْضُضْ مِن صَوْتِكَ ۚ إِنَّ أَنكَرَ الْأَصْوَاتِ لَصَوْتُ الْحَمِيرِ - 31:19

    And be moderate in your pace and lower your voice; indeed, the most disagreeable of sounds is the voice of donkeys."


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    Do you not see that Allah has made subject to you whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth and amply bestowed upon you His favors, [both] apparent and unapparent? But of the people is he who disputes about Allah without knowledge or guidance or an enlightening Book [from Him].


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    Re: How do you get perfect circles with so many people?

    Quote Originally Posted by LailaTheMuslim View Post
    Wa Alaikum Salaam

    cos they're facing the Kaba?
    But even so, the circles could easily be wonky as the line goes around it.

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    Re: How do you get perfect circles with so many people?

    Wa'alaikumsalam wr wb

    Yes there are lines on the floor. Usually the first saf , i believe they follow the lines , then the rest just follow accordingly.

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    Re: How do you get perfect circles with so many people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rifqah View Post



    I've just watched dhuhr prayer at Makkah. How does everyone who was previously walking around the Qibla (?) in a random style, all suddenly arrange themselves into exact circles - are there lines on the floor?
    Wa alaikum as salam sister,
    There aren't lines on the floor per se. But the tiling is done in a way that acts as a guideline I guess you could say. So the tiles are like big rectangular slabs of marble and they're kind of arranged concentrically I guess. So if they were used as a general guideline it would work out. HOWEVER, I don't think that people usually use them like that. As in I've never really seen people looking at the ground to figure it out in the mat'af because well the ka'ba is right in front of you.
    But this is very useful in some other parts of the mosque. Like the mas'a where you do sa'i they have the marble tiles going the way that the saf would be formed. So there it is really handy alhumdulillah.

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    Re: How do you get perfect circles with so many people?

    There are also people who arrange (men and women )and they are going to tell you to go to this side or stand on this line ...

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    Re: How do you get perfect circles with so many people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rifqah View Post



    I've just watched dhuhr prayer at Makkah. How does everyone who was previously walking around the Qibla (?) in a random style, all suddenly arrange themselves into exact circles - are there lines on the floor?
    The tiles and carpets.

    The first time I went there, was with some friends.
    Me and a friend decided to go and make tawaaf after dhuhr.
    Was extremely hot, we took our sandals off as we entered courtyard and found the floor to be so hot it stung our feet.
    We approached close to the ka'ba and realised that the floor here was cool and soothing to the feet.
    We were both convinced it was a miracle of Allah, mindblown kinda feeling.

    Found our other friends back at the hotel later and both of us were telling them about this miracle we experienced.
    They laughed at us and said that this particular area has pipes running underneath which keep the floor cool

    The way you phrased your post made me remember this story.
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    Re: How do you get perfect circles with so many people?

    Quote Originally Posted by -Jibril- View Post
    The tiles and carpets.

    The first time I went there, was with some friends.
    Me and a friend decided to go and make tawaaf after dhuhr.
    Was extremely hot, we took our sandals off as we entered courtyard and found the floor to be so hot it stung our feet.
    We approached close to the ka'ba and realised that the floor here was cool and soothing to the feet.
    We were both convinced it was a miracle of Allah, mindblown kinda feeling.

    Found our other friends back at the hotel later and both of us were telling them about this miracle we experienced.
    They laughed at us and said that this particular area has pipes running underneath which keep the floor cool

    The way you phrased your post made me remember this story.

    yes, never step outside those areas which is hot. Not a pleasant experience.
    The floor near the kaaba was cool because I believe they use special tiles.

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    Re: How do you get perfect circles with so many people?

    Quote Originally Posted by -Jibril- View Post
    The tiles and carpets.

    The first time I went there, was with some friends.
    Me and a friend decided to go and make tawaaf after dhuhr.
    Was extremely hot, we took our sandals off as we entered courtyard and found the floor to be so hot it stung our feet.
    We approached close to the ka'ba and realised that the floor here was cool and soothing to the feet.
    We were both convinced it was a miracle of Allah, mindblown kinda feeling.

    Found our other friends back at the hotel later and both of us were telling them about this miracle we experienced.
    They laughed at us and said that this particular area has pipes running underneath which keep the floor cool

    The way you phrased your post made me remember this story.
    Quote Originally Posted by MuslimThinker View Post
    yes, never step outside those areas which is hot. Not a pleasant experience.
    The floor near the kaaba was cool because I believe they use special tiles.
    Yes that's right. The tiles are cool because they are made from Thassos white marble which is heat resistant. Imported from Greece I think.
    It's a common misconception that there is some kind of pipe cooling system underneath. I wonder how that rumor ever started. There's absolutely no basis.

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    Re: How do you get perfect circles with so many people?

    Quote Originally Posted by MuslimThinker View Post
    yes, never step outside those areas which is hot. Not a pleasant experience.
    The floor near the kaaba was cool because I believe they use special tiles.
    Quote Originally Posted by TCKMuslima View Post
    Yes that's right. The tiles are cool because they are made from Thassos white marble which is heat resistant. Imported from Greece I think.
    It's a common misconception that there is some kind of pipe cooling system underneath. I wonder how that rumor ever started. There's absolutely no basis.
    Cause folks like me will believe anything you tell us as long as you use the words "trust me".
    I've been thinking its pipes for the last decade -.-
    Thanks for this nugget of info, learn something new everyday.
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    Man will rest in the aakhira according to how hard he strives in dunya.

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    and knowledge is regarded as deeds,
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