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    Pakistan a Kufr state (like many other so called Muslim nations/states)

    السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته brothers and sisters,

    This is a short video by the late Dr Israr Ahmed,who elaborates on the fact that Pakistan (like many failed Muslim majority nations) are Kufr states...



    Ps. The video is in Urdu

    And certain brothers and sisters tell us to migrate from one Kufr state (IE. A Western nation) to another Kufr state like Pakistan or Bangladesh or other so called Muslim states, Nations...

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    Re: Pakistan a Kufr state (like many other so called Muslim nations/states)

    Quote Originally Posted by dsr478 View Post
    I'd appreciate if you didn't call us "pakis", otherwise I'll call you sand monkey among other things.
    Why sand monkey?

    ?:-|

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    Re: Pakistan a Kufr state (like many other so called Muslim nations/states)

    Quote Originally Posted by dsr478 View Post
    I'd appreciate if you didn't call us "pakis", otherwise I'll call you sand monkey among other things.
    I'm a paki myself so......

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    Re: Pakistan a Kufr state (like many other so called Muslim nations/states)

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu 'Abdullaah View Post
    Why sand monkey?

    ?:-|
    General derogatory term for people from the Middle East. I can think of a bunch of other more obscene terms to use, but I'd rather only use them if the other guy doesn't listen to my request.

    And if he's not Middle Eastern, I can go for other terms.

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    Re: Pakistan a Kufr state (like many other so called Muslim nations/states)

    Quote Originally Posted by dsr478 View Post
    General derogatory term for people from the Middle East. I can think of a bunch of other more obscene terms to use, but I'd rather only use them if the other guy doesn't listen to my request.

    And if he's not Middle Eastern, I can go for other terms.
    What a loser you are. You don't even know who he is yet you want to throw out random obscene terms. You're one of those idiots who thinks that anyone critical of Pakistan must be an Indian/Bangladeshi/Arab etc.

    You can't fathom the idea that someone would speak negatively of their own country.

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    Re: Pakistan a Kufr state (like many other so called Muslim nations/states)

    Quote Originally Posted by Pakisaurus View Post
    I'm a paki myself so......
    Oh... this is awkward...

    I don't typically mind the term unless it's used in a hostile way.

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    Re: Pakistan a Kufr state (like many other so called Muslim nations/states)

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu 'Abdullaah View Post
    What a loser you are. You don't even know who he is yet you want to throw out random obscene terms. You're one of those idiots who thinks that anyone critical of Pakistan must be an Indian/Bangladeshi/Arab etc.

    You can't fathom the idea that someone would speak negatively of their own country.
    He threw out the obscene term first, don't cry about what I said when it was in retaliation.

    I'm Pakistani, I speak negatively of Pakistan, I can fathom it but I wasn't aware where this guy was from. Since he used the term "paki" I assumed he wasn't from the country.

    Let's not talk about who's the idiot or loser here, if you want to toss insults let's do it on a more even playing field.

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    Re: Pakistan a Kufr state (like many other so called Muslim nations/states)

    Quote Originally Posted by dsr478 View Post
    He threw out the obscene term first, don't cry about what I said when it was in retaliation....
    You just agreed that it's not an obscene term and that you don't mind it as long as it's not used in a hostile way (I assume that means used by non-Pakis). I'm not crying about what you said. I just think it's stupid because you just threw out a random insult. You didn't even know where he is from and assumed he was from the Middle East. Stupid assumption I'm sure you'll agree. If you knew he was from there and used the term, it would still be stupid but at least it would be relevant. It's a bit like calling a Chinese guy 'nigger' or 'kike'. If you can't establish where someone is from, do you just throw out general racial insults hoping of them will 'strike a nerve'...? Silly path to take.

    ...I'm Pakistani, I speak negatively of Pakistan, I can fathom it but I wasn't aware where this guy was from. Since he used the term "paki" I assumed he wasn't from the country...
    Not only are you very well aware that many Pakis use the term, but this is after saying you don't mind it (see above). Don't pretend to be surprised at that fact as if it's news.

    ...Let's not talk about who's the idiot or loser here, if you want to toss insults let's do it on a more even playing field.
    It's not a 'random insult' which is clearly the type of game you prefer. I've proven how your comments were idiotic.

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    Re: Pakistan a Kufr state (like many other so called Muslim nations/states)

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu 'Abdullaah View Post
    You just agreed that it's not an obscene term and that you don't mind it as long as it's not used in a hostile way (I assume that means used by non-Pakis). I'm not crying about what you said. I just think it's stupid because you just threw out a random insult. You didn't even know where he is from and assumed he was from the Middle East. Stupid assumption I'm sure you'll agree. If you knew he was from there and used the term, it would still be stupid but at least it would be relevant. It's a bit like calling a Chinese guy 'nigger' or 'kike'. If you can't establish where someone is from, do you just throw out general racial insults hoping of them will 'strike a nerve'...? Silly path to take.

    Not only are you very well aware that many Pakis use the term, but this is after saying you don't mind it (see above). Don't pretend to be surprised at that fact as if it's news.

    It's not a 'random insult' which is clearly the type of game you prefer. I've proven how your comments were idiotic.
    20% of Muslims come from the middle east. I've had no previous encounter with this guy that suggested he was Pakistani, so it's a fair assumption and not stupid at all.

    He used it in a rather hostile comment, so I assumed him to be non Pakistani.

    Again, I don't like playing on this rigged field, especially against someone like yourself who abuses his powers on this website. Want to see who can punch harder? We can use a different medium.

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    Re: Pakistan a Kufr state (like many other so called Muslim nations/states)

    Quote Originally Posted by dsr478 View Post
    20% of Muslims come from the middle east. I've had no previous encounter with this guy that suggested he was Pakistani, so it's a fair assumption and not stupid at all...
    Not knowing someone's identity and therefore assuming they are Middle Eastern sounds fair to you? It's ridiculous.

    ...He used it in a rather hostile comment, so I assumed him to be non Pakistani...
    Not only 'non-Pakistani' but specifically Middle Eastern. You got it wrong and still think it's okay to make false assumptions... sorry, 'fair' assumptions.

    ...Again, I don't like playing on this rigged field, especially against someone like yourself who abuses his powers on this website. Want to see who can punch harder? We can use a different medium.
    Of course you are actually much more intelligent than this but the field is rigged and my powers on this website force you to make stupid comments.

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    Re: Pakistan a Kufr state (like many other so called Muslim nations/states)

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu 'Abdullaah View Post
    Not knowing someone's identity and therefore assuming they are Middle Eastern sounds fair to you? It's ridiculous.

    Not only 'non-Pakistani' but specifically Middle Eastern. You got it wrong and still think it's okay to make false assumptions... sorry, 'fair' assumptions.

    Of course you are actually much more intelligent than this but the field is rigged and my powers on this website force you to make stupid comments.
    It's fair because 20% of Muslims are middle eastern. That's a higher representation than Muslims from other regions. Not at all unfair or ridiculous. Stop crying.

    No, they force me to not say certain things to people like you that I'd usually say, because as you've shown before, you're a pitiful excuse for a mod who throws his ban hammer around like a dumb ape. You're probably going to delete this comment or ban me for it, but you'll only be proving my point.

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    Re: Pakistan a Kufr state (like many other so called Muslim nations/states)

    Quote Originally Posted by dsr478 View Post
    It's fair because 20% of Muslims are middle eastern. That's a higher representation than Muslims from other regions. Not at all unfair or ridiculous. Stop crying...
    I have a feeling that your stupidity isn't limited to racial slurs.

    ...No, they force me to not say certain things to people like you that I'd usually say, because as you've shown before, you're a pitiful excuse for a mod who throws his ban hammer around like a dumb ape. You're probably going to delete this comment or ban me for it, but you'll only be proving my point...
    In other words, you want to continue down the road of obscenity and use even more vulgar terms. You think that disallowing you to post nothing but insults is abuse of power.

    Amazing.

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    Re: Pakistan a Kufr state (like many other so called Muslim nations/states)

    Quote Originally Posted by Pakisaurus View Post
    Not what I said. Allies of kuffar = napaak army. Factual claim? what does that even mean? lol. What's there to "comprehend" about unproven allegations/slander against any muslim group/state?

    There are statements attributed to him that point towards a secular state like his 14th August speech. Then there are statements of him that seem to favour an Islamic state. Due to his confusing stance, 70 years after Pakistans creation pakis have been unable to decide what type of Pakistan Jinnah wanted.
    So it's not clear,

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    Re: Pakistan a Kufr state (like many other so called Muslim nations/states)

    Quote Originally Posted by dsr478 View Post
    It's fair because 20% of Muslims are middle eastern. That's a higher representation than Muslims from other regions. Not at all unfair or ridiculous. Stop crying.

    No, they force me to not say certain things to people like you that I'd usually say, because as you've shown before, you're a pitiful excuse for a mod who throws his ban hammer around like a dumb ape. You're probably going to delete this comment or ban me for it, but you'll only be proving my point.
    Akhi there's no need for name calling,

    It's no surprise that Ummah Forums mods have gone down the drain, but I would say Abdullah is one of the better mods,

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