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    The Modern(liberals) Muslims misunderstanding of Faith and Iman

    We live in such era where things have become materialistic hence the Munafiq-creed has grown larger then ever.

    If you read the Quran and pick up the message in it you would understand why the Sahaba were indeed the people of Allah and not the other way but you find today with liberals aka modern muslims alot of Munafiqeen-creed in them.

    What dose it mean to give acceptance to Allah's religion and accept him whole by being at his side at all costs??

    لَقَدْ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ إِذْ يُبَايِعُونَكَ تَحْتَ الشَّجَرَةِ فَعَلِمَ مَا فِي قُلُوبِهِمْ فَأَنْزَلَ السَّكِينَةَ عَلَيْهِمْ وَأَثَابَهُمْ فَتْحًا قَرِيبًا * وَمَغَانِمَ كَثِيرَةً يَأْخُذُونَهَا وَكَانَ اللَّهُ عَزِيزًا حَكِيمًا

    “Allah was pleased with the believers when they pledged allegiance to you under the tree. He knew what was in their hearts, and sent down serenity to them and has rewarded them with an imminent victory, and with much booty which they will take. Allah is Almighty, All-Wise.”

    (Al-Fatih: 18-19)


    This should be taken literally... You promote the causes of Allah(swt) openly and hidden plus you give assistance to his faith openly and hidden and you strive in the path of Allah with your money and lives and if you do this condition you have truly fulfilled the requirment as truly a friend of Allah with sincere heart. Making Allah's interest as yours.

    قَالَتِ الْأعْرَابُ آمَنَّا قُل لَّمْ تُؤْمِنُوا وَلَكِن قُولُوا أسْلَمْنَا وَلَمَّا يَدْخُلِ الْإِيمَانُ فِي قُلُوبِكُمْ وَإِن تُطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ لَآ يَلِتْكُم مِّنْ أعْمَالِكُمْ شَيْئًا إِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ

    14.The bedouins say, "We have believed." Say, "You have not [yet] believed; but say [instead], 'We have submitted,' for faith has not yet entered your hearts. And if you obey Allah and His Messenger, He will not deprive you from your deeds of anything. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."


    إِنَّمَا الْمُؤْمِنُونَ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا بِاللَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِ ثُمَّ لَمْ يَرْتَابُوا وَجَاهَدُوا بِأمْوَالِهِمْ وَأنفُسِهِمْ فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ اُوْلَئِكَ هُمُ الصَّادِقُونَ

    15. Believers are only those who have believed in Allah and His Messenger (S) and then doubt not but strive with their possessions and their lives for the Cause of Allah. They are the truthful [in their claims to faith].


    قُلْ أتُعَلِّمُونَ اللَّهَ بِدِينِكُمْ وَاللَّهُ يَعْلَمُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الْأرْضِ وَاللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمٌ

    16. Say: “Will you inform Allah of your religion while Allah knows all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth; and Allah is All-Aware of everything.


    What do this tell us? They are people who want to live life freely without any duty or places to report to and give no assistance to Islam whatsoever and you find them mostly making lectures and gatherings to dismiss these who want to be muslims and want the blessings of Allah.

    I was shocked to listen to a well known brother giving khutbah against struggling muslims and he was getting takbirs by awhole bunch of people who found him pleasing. It was a terrific experience that I had to go through the entire khutbah.

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    Re: The Modern(liberals) Muslims misunderstanding of Faith and Iman

    address them.

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    Re: The Modern(liberals) Muslims misunderstanding of Faith and Iman

    Quote Originally Posted by DreamsofHope View Post
    We live in such era where things have become materialistic hence the Munafiq-creed has grown larger then ever.

    If you read the Quran and pick up the message in it you would understand why the Sahaba were indeed the people of Allah and not the other way but you find today with liberals aka modern muslims alot of Munafiqeen-creed in them.

    What dose it mean to give acceptance to Allah's religion and accept him whole by being at his side at all costs??

    لَقَدْ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ إِذْ يُبَايِعُونَكَ تَحْتَ الشَّجَرَةِ فَعَلِمَ مَا فِي قُلُوبِهِمْ فَأَنْزَلَ السَّكِينَةَ عَلَيْهِمْ وَأَثَابَهُمْ فَتْحًا قَرِيبًا * وَمَغَانِمَ كَثِيرَةً يَأْخُذُونَهَا وَكَانَ اللَّهُ عَزِيزًا حَكِيمًا

    “Allah was pleased with the believers when they pledged allegiance to you under the tree. He knew what was in their hearts, and sent down serenity to them and has rewarded them with an imminent victory, and with much booty which they will take. Allah is Almighty, All-Wise.”

    (Al-Fatih: 18-19)


    This should be taken literally... You promote the causes of Allah(swt) openly and hidden plus you give assistance to his faith openly and hidden and you strive in the path of Allah with your money and lives and if you do this condition you have truly fulfilled the requirment as truly a friend of Allah with sincere heart. Making Allah's interest as yours.

    قَالَتِ الْأعْرَابُ آمَنَّا قُل لَّمْ تُؤْمِنُوا وَلَكِن قُولُوا أسْلَمْنَا وَلَمَّا يَدْخُلِ الْإِيمَانُ فِي قُلُوبِكُمْ وَإِن تُطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ لَآ يَلِتْكُم مِّنْ أعْمَالِكُمْ شَيْئًا إِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ

    14.The bedouins say, "We have believed." Say, "You have not [yet] believed; but say [instead], 'We have submitted,' for faith has not yet entered your hearts. And if you obey Allah and His Messenger, He will not deprive you from your deeds of anything. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."


    إِنَّمَا الْمُؤْمِنُونَ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا بِاللَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِ ثُمَّ لَمْ يَرْتَابُوا وَجَاهَدُوا بِأمْوَالِهِمْ وَأنفُسِهِمْ فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ اُوْلَئِكَ هُمُ الصَّادِقُونَ

    15. Believers are only those who have believed in Allah and His Messenger (S) and then doubt not but strive with their possessions and their lives for the Cause of Allah. They are the truthful [in their claims to faith].


    قُلْ أتُعَلِّمُونَ اللَّهَ بِدِينِكُمْ وَاللَّهُ يَعْلَمُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الْأرْضِ وَاللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمٌ

    16. Say: “Will you inform Allah of your religion while Allah knows all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth; and Allah is All-Aware of everything.


    What do this tell us? They are people who want to live life freely without any duty or places to report to and give no assistance to Islam whatsoever and you find them mostly making lectures and gatherings to dismiss these who want to be muslims and want the blessings of Allah.

    I was shocked to listen to a well known brother giving khutbah against struggling muslims and he was getting takbirs by awhole bunch of people who found him pleasing. It was a terrific experience that I had to go through the entire khutbah.


    Dear brother, it is my opinion that the believer must remain true to the worship of Allah in the face of the "Taghy" of the so called liberal/modern Muslim. That manifests in adhering to the Islamic ideological guidance which addresses Muslims according to how Allah AWJ has revealed about them a/o their actions such that the Muslim can increase to Mumin and Muhsin, or decrease to Munafiq in the many levels of munafiqeen, including fasiq, thalim, mufasad, to murtad. Once in kufr, there are levels of kufr as well, including the worst: mufasad Taghut who claims to be a god himself, to be openly worshipped instead of Allah.

    It is possible to address those "liberal" Muslims intellectually in order to explain how they are misguided and misled to follow a kufr man made ideology against their own welfare and towards their own long term destruction, but you should always stand up for the Islamic ideological paradigm as the superior and only legitimate standard and way to address reality.

    If you are in the presence or have a close relationship with a "liberal" Muslim, then you may use gentleness, and relate intellectually to those with deeper thinking, and relate emotionally to those who are family, or spouses. Or both.

    But when dealing with an entire assembly or group, you must evaluate your own situation first. If you spoke at an assembly, will someone just call MI5 and get you thrown in prison and suffer persecution?
    Will they attack you, call police and have you charged with extremism, etc?
    Is the masjid receiving funds from the British ministry as part of their Prevent program and so all their leadership are part of the plot against Islam?

    These and more questions must be asked today.

    It might be better today to avoid a public stand in the circumstances that would deflect any good and Marouf you might call for, while placing you in mortal danger, including being attacked by their liberal thugs.

    There is a hadith related to this situation:

    Abdullah Ibn Amr reported the Prophet said:
    “How will you be at a time that will soon come, when the good people will pass away and only the worst ones will be left, who will break their promises and betray their trusts, and they will differ while they were previously together like this,” – and he interlaced his fingers.
    They said: “What should we do, O Messenger of Allah, when that comes to pass?”
    He said: “Follow that which you know is true, and leave that which you dislike. Take care of your own affairs and turn away from the common folk.”(hasan sahih Ibn Majah)

    Hudhaifa Ibn Yamani reported the Prophet said

    “There will be callers at the gates of Hell; whoever responds to them they throw them into it.” I said: “O Messenger of Allah, describe them to us.”
    He said: “They will be from our people, speaking our language.” I said: “What do you command me to do, if I live to see that?”
    He said: “Adhere tothe main body of the Muslims and their leader. If there is no such body and no leader, then withdraw from all their groups, even if you bite onto the trunk of a tree until death finds you in that state.” (Sahih Ibn Majah)

    These two texts may be interpreted to describe attributes of "liberal" Muslims and the effects of secular liberalism on Muslims. As do many other texts, including those who follow "wahn".
    "Callers to the Doors of Jahanam" may mean calling directly to major sins and even kufr, such as homosexuality, usury, openly rejecting Shariah, murder of "extremists", calling to legislate man made laws and to rule by them, allying with enemies of Islam, and many other major sins like calling to the use of including openly rejecting Allah's commands.

    These liberal traits are evident throughout the Muslim community today in every country. And these are traits cultured by the murtadeen regimes who are themselves liberal adherents both in public and especially in private.

    And these liberal common folk are manipulated by emotionalism propagated by the Tawaghut powers such that with media or political statements, they can manipulate liberal mobs to act irrationally.
    Allahumma, aranee al haqqu haqqan wa arzuqnee itiba`ahu, wa aranee al baatilu baatilaan wa arzuqnee ijtinaabahu.Oh Allah! show us the truth as true, and inspire us to follow it. Show us falsehood as falsehood, and inspire us to abstain from it.
    " Do you know what destroys Islam? A mistake made by a scholar, the argument of a hypocrite in writing and the ruling of leaders who wish for people to stray

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    Re: The Modern(liberals) Muslims misunderstanding of Faith and Iman

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    Dear brother, it is my opinion that the believer must remain true to the worship of Allah in the face of the "Taghy" of the so called liberal/modern Muslim. That manifests in adhering to the Islamic ideological guidance which addresses Muslims according to how Allah AWJ has revealed about them a/o their actions such that the Muslim can increase to Mumin and Muhsin, or decrease to Munafiq in the many levels of munafiqeen, including fasiq, thalim, mufasad, to murtad. Once in kufr, there are levels of kufr as well, including the worst: mufasad Taghut who claims to be a god himself, to be openly worshipped instead of Allah.

    It is possible to address those "liberal" Muslims intellectually in order to explain how they are misguided and misled to follow a kufr man made ideology against their own welfare and towards their own long term destruction, but you should always stand up for the Islamic ideological paradigm as the superior and only legitimate standard and way to address reality.

    If you are in the presence or have a close relationship with a "liberal" Muslim, then you may use gentleness, and relate intellectually to those with deeper thinking, and relate emotionally to those who are family, or spouses. Or both.

    But when dealing with an entire assembly or group, you must evaluate your own situation first. If you spoke at an assembly, will someone just call MI5 and get you thrown in prison and suffer persecution?
    Will they attack you, call police and have you charged with extremism, etc?
    Is the masjid receiving funds from the British ministry as part of their Prevent program and so all their leadership are part of the plot against Islam?

    These and more questions must be asked today.

    It might be better today to avoid a public stand in the circumstances that would deflect any good and Marouf you might call for, while placing you in mortal danger, including being attacked by their liberal thugs.

    There is a hadith related to this situation:

    Abdullah Ibn Amr reported the Prophet said:
    “How will you be at a time that will soon come, when the good people will pass away and only the worst ones will be left, who will break their promises and betray their trusts, and they will differ while they were previously together like this,” – and he interlaced his fingers.
    They said: “What should we do, O Messenger of Allah, when that comes to pass?”
    He said: “Follow that which you know is true, and leave that which you dislike. Take care of your own affairs and turn away from the common folk.”(hasan sahih Ibn Majah)

    Hudhaifa Ibn Yamani reported the Prophet said

    “There will be callers at the gates of Hell; whoever responds to them they throw them into it.” I said: “O Messenger of Allah, describe them to us.”
    He said: “They will be from our people, speaking our language.” I said: “What do you command me to do, if I live to see that?”
    He said: “Adhere tothe main body of the Muslims and their leader. If there is no such body and no leader, then withdraw from all their groups, even if you bite onto the trunk of a tree until death finds you in that state.” (Sahih Ibn Majah)

    These two texts may be interpreted to describe attributes of "liberal" Muslims and the effects of secular liberalism on Muslims. As do many other texts, including those who follow "wahn".
    "Callers to the Doors of Jahanam" may mean calling directly to major sins and even kufr, such as homosexuality, usury, openly rejecting Shariah, murder of "extremists", calling to legislate man made laws and to rule by them, allying with enemies of Islam, and many other major sins like calling to the use of including openly rejecting Allah's commands.

    These liberal traits are evident throughout the Muslim community today in every country. And these are traits cultured by the murtadeen regimes who are themselves liberal adherents both in public and especially in private.

    And these liberal common folk are manipulated by emotionalism propagated by the Tawaghut powers such that with media or political statements, they can manipulate liberal mobs to act irrationally.
    this ummahs hopeless no wonder dajjal has to come inorder to distinguish the true and firm, and the munafiq and weak

 

 

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