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    I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    I don't have a wife...but I was thinking, how dangerous of a name would muawiyah be if my son ever comes across shias?

    I was thinking of naming my son that name so he can contemplate and realize the evil and the all the wrongs in Shism...

    I also realized it's name that no one ever names their sons anymore? Is it because of the minority shias and the possibilities that can happen with that name?

    It seems like a noble idea, but if the risk are real...
    Stop being apologetic to Kuffars!

    If I don't engage with you or reply to any of your question, it's likely because I find you racist and a total waste of time.

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by neelu View Post
    There are better names, better Sahaba (ra) whom are better role models that I'd rather name sons after.
    He chose his lowlife son to be his successor- that should be reason enough.



    Don't be ridiculous!
    SubhanAllah

    Mu'awiya was a great companion of the Messenger of Allah (saws) . He was a scribe of the Quran in the presence of Rasulullah (as)

    You know the difference between sunni and shia is that we respect the sahabah and we do not denigrate them under any circumstance. Mu'awiya is a pinnacle figure between the sects. Our stance towards him is critical in distinction the shee'a.

    He did much good for the Ummah and yes like all humans he had flaws. We shouldn't delve in to his flaws but rather celebrate his good ( which is many). I believe that is the more islamic thing to do. Anyone who tells you otherwise I'd suggest avoiding and not being influenced by their rhetoric unless your religion is of little value for you !

    Excuse my tone, I am just passionate about this sahabi. I would love to name my own son Mu'awiya and in fact my muslim name is Mu'awiya ( not that I really use it much).


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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    a reminder for everyone - please be mindful of what you say about the companions of Prophet, subhanAllah Allah is pleased with them, who are we then to disrespect them

    fear Allah and keep quiet if you cannot say anything good about the companions radiallahu 'anhum
    Last edited by .Hajar.; 01-04-17 at 01:01 AM.



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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by Hassaan Naqshbandi View Post
    Assalam u Alaikum
    They, the rawafidh, hate Hazrat Umar Farooq r.z the most.
    why are you telling me this
    They say good things come to those who wait, so imma be at least an hour late

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    wasnt muawiya a controversial figure?

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by Noom View Post
    wasnt muawiya a controversial figure?
    Not at all. He was one of the greatest human beings ever to walk on the surface of the earth.

    And anyone who harbors any enmity or dislike for him should know that it's only a result of the evil in their heart.

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Yes, but no one can say why without getting their posts deleted and infractions from the moderators. I got a 30 points infraction from the mods just for saying I personally wouldn't name a child Muawiya.

    Quote Originally Posted by Noom View Post
    wasnt muawiya a controversial figure?

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by neelu View Post
    I got a 30 points infraction from the mods just for saying I personally wouldn't name a child Muawiya.
    Is that really the reason you think you got infracted?

    `Ajeeb.
    والمبادرة إلى التكفير إنما تغلب على طباع من يغلب عليهم الجهل - ابن تيمية رحمه الله - بغية المرتاد

    "Rushing towards takfir is an attitude which is dominant over those who are defeated by ignorance." - Ibn Taymiyyah Rahimahullah [Bughyatul Murtaad, page 354]

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by Noom View Post
    wasnt muawiya a controversial figure?
    For rawaafid, yes. For everyone else who has respect for Rasulullah and his words, then no.
    والمبادرة إلى التكفير إنما تغلب على طباع من يغلب عليهم الجهل - ابن تيمية رحمه الله - بغية المرتاد

    "Rushing towards takfir is an attitude which is dominant over those who are defeated by ignorance." - Ibn Taymiyyah Rahimahullah [Bughyatul Murtaad, page 354]

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Yes that's what the PM says. It quotes "original post" and shows that post.

    Quote Originally Posted by علي View Post
    Is that really the reason you think you got infracted?

    `Ajeeb.

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by Noom View Post
    wasnt muawiya a controversial figure?
    He will go to Jannah.
    You think you know more than my scholar's qiyās? He was more learned than you and all other scholars combined. Yeah, the devil was the greatest scholar too and look where his qiyās of fire being better than tīn got him. Sorry.

    You follow your scholar's qiyās, and I will follow the Qur'ān and Sunnah.

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by neelu View Post
    Yes that's what the PM says. It quotes "original post" and shows that post.
    That's because your actual post was deleted by mistake, your post which says:

    Quote Originally Posted by neelu
    There are better names, better Sahaba (ra) whom are better role models that I'd rather name sons after.
    He chose his lowlife son to be his successor- that should be reason enough.



    Don't be ridiculous!
    Don't try to play the innocent game.

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by Noom View Post
    wasnt muawiya a controversial figure?
    A scribe of the Qur'an and letters to various leaders. A brother in law of the Messenger

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    I received 2 PMs containing 2 infractions. One is a 15 point infraction that doesn't quote the post it is from (I presume because it was deleted). The second is a 30 point infraction which quotes my earlier post. I'm not trying to "play" anything- I'm quoting what the PMs actually said.

    Quote Originally Posted by moderators View Post
    That's because your actual post was deleted by mistake, your post which says:



    Don't try to play the innocent game.

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by ibzy View Post
    why are you telling me this
    I am not telling "you" this.

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    How diluted some people are.

    They would name their kids after themselves but not after a Companion.

    Some of these diluted people should ponder why such ahadeeth exist in the first place:


    The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him): ‘Do not curse my Companions, for by the One in Whose hand is my soul, if any one of you were to spend the equivalent of Mount Uhud in gold, he would not reach the status of one of them, nor even come half way.’ (Agreed upon).” Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 3/152
    .

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Hizbut tahrir have a problem with Muawiya(ra).

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by A.Basheer View Post
    How diluted some people are.

    They would name their kids after themselves but not after a Companion.

    Some of these diluted people should ponder why such ahadeeth exist in the first place:


    The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him): ‘Do not curse my Companions, for by the One in Whose hand is my soul, if any one of you were to spend the equivalent of Mount Uhud in gold, he would not reach the status of one of them, nor even come half way.’ (Agreed upon).” Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 3/152
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    Son, I don't disagree with you but the companions meant in this hadeeth are not all of them.
    You think you know more than my scholar's qiyās? He was more learned than you and all other scholars combined. Yeah, the devil was the greatest scholar too and look where his qiyās of fire being better than tīn got him. Sorry.

    You follow your scholar's qiyās, and I will follow the Qur'ān and Sunnah.

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by Linkdeutscher View Post
    Son, I don't disagree with you but the companions meant in this hadeeth are not all of them.
    Excuse you son?

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by A.Basheer View Post
    Excuse you son?
    Son, read the full hadeeth with context and it will become clear to you.
    You think you know more than my scholar's qiyās? He was more learned than you and all other scholars combined. Yeah, the devil was the greatest scholar too and look where his qiyās of fire being better than tīn got him. Sorry.

    You follow your scholar's qiyās, and I will follow the Qur'ān and Sunnah.

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by quark View Post
    Hizbut tahrir have a problem with Muawiya(ra).
    It is a good way to identity deviants.
    You think you know more than my scholar's qiyās? He was more learned than you and all other scholars combined. Yeah, the devil was the greatest scholar too and look where his qiyās of fire being better than tīn got him. Sorry.

    You follow your scholar's qiyās, and I will follow the Qur'ān and Sunnah.

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    It is worth mentioning that classical scholars of Ahlul Sunnah wal Jamaa`ah, with their knowledge, have already concluded that matter with regards to Sayidinaa Mu`aawiyah (R. A) and there is plenty of material out there (English and Arabic):

    http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vb/showthread.php?t=175704

    Most notably, Mu`aawiyah (r. a) is a litmus test. If one likes him, his faith is sound. If not, he is misguided.

    Second, and this is very significant, Mu`aawiyah (r. a) is the curtain that covers the Sahabah. If someone is daring enough to target him, then he has torn off that curtain and the rest of the Sahabah are just as fair game to them.

    Lastly, if it were not for the futuhaat of Mu`aawiyah radiyallahu `anh, vast amounts of people would have been left without Islam, likely including those in Asia and Africa, because that was him and his legacy after the tawfeeq of Allah (swt).
    والمبادرة إلى التكفير إنما تغلب على طباع من يغلب عليهم الجهل - ابن تيمية رحمه الله - بغية المرتاد

    "Rushing towards takfir is an attitude which is dominant over those who are defeated by ignorance." - Ibn Taymiyyah Rahimahullah [Bughyatul Murtaad, page 354]

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by A.Basheer View Post
    How diluted some people are.

    They would name their kids after themselves but not after a Companion.

    Some of these diluted people should ponder why such ahadeeth exist in the first place:


    The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him): ‘Do not curse my Companions, for by the One in Whose hand is my soul, if any one of you were to spend the equivalent of Mount Uhud in gold, he would not reach the status of one of them, nor even come half way.’ (Agreed upon).” Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 3/152
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    have you checked the full hadeeth ? Kindly quote the full hadeeth so that we know when did prophet say that and to whom.

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Why do u make Shia look dangerous? I have many Shia friends I've never seen any negative actions or sayings comING from them as much as I've seealot of sunnies back bite about Shia and make them look dangerous and filthy.... seriously stop this nonsense were all humans... if u think shaa are dangerous then maybe it's because you are watching the wrong channels or you're simply around the bad shias.... I don't have any problem with the Shia I know because none of them have ever dared to curse the propet or the sahaba... they're very respectful indeed. So let's stop this whole Shia/sunni nonsense♡♡♡♡♡♡
    "Silence "

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by innocent-wife View Post
    Why do u make Shia look dangerous? I have many Shia friends I've never seen any negative actions or sayings comING from them as much as I've seealot of sunnies back bite about Shia and make them look dangerous and filthy.... seriously stop this nonsense were all humans... if u think shaa are dangerous then maybe it's because you are watching the wrong channels or you're simply around the bad shias.... I don't have any problem with the Shia I know because none of them have ever dared to curse the propet or the sahaba... they're very respectful indeed. So let's stop this whole Shia/sunni nonsense♡♡♡♡♡♡
    Shia attitude towards the sahaba is fact. Just because you know some that do not, doesn't mean in general they don't.

    Look at any Shi'a tv channel, and you'll hear for yourself them disrespecting Muawiyah , the mothers of the believers Aisha , Hafsah , and any sahaba that sided with Muawiyah in the conflict he had with Ali

    I heard them outright call Muawiyah and his father Abu Sufyan as being munafiqeen and that they never really accepted Islam really on a mainstream shia channel Ahlul Bayt TV.

    We've had many shia come on this very forum over the years saying the same thing and after a while they exposed themselves and the hatred they had for the likes of Abu Bakr & Umar

    Allah has praised the sahaba in the Quran. He has promised them paradise, forgiveness and a great reward and has said he is pleased with them. You are very naive if you think otherwise.

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by Bismil View Post
    have you checked the full hadeeth ? Kindly quote the full hadeeth so that we know when did prophet say that and to whom.
    Context is irrelevant. The general meaning stands. Don't disrespect any sahaba.

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikha’eel View Post
    Context is irrelevant. The general meaning stands. Don't disrespect any sahaba.

    Context is irrelevant ?

    When people quote the killing ayats of Quran , then do speakers say context is irrelevant ? Context in which prophet said is important here , because it was addressed to Khalid Bin Walid Ra .

    Prophet differentiated between different companions on the basis of when they accepted Islam . Even Quran says that .

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikha’eel View Post
    Context is irrelevant. The general meaning stands. Don't disrespect any sahaba.
    Lying upon Rasoolallah is not irrelvant. If a scholar like Ibn Taymiyyah Rahimahullah mistakenly quoted that, it doesn't mean we follow in his error.

    Nobody is saying disrespect any sahaba. That's haraam anyway. But we don't need to misinterpret ahadeeth.

    The point is that the hadeeth is not talking about all the sahaba, because Rasoolallah was saying that to a very sahabi himself.

    Whom else was he saying that to? Kuffaar? Was he talking to us directly? No.
    You think you know more than my scholar's qiyās? He was more learned than you and all other scholars combined. Yeah, the devil was the greatest scholar too and look where his qiyās of fire being better than tīn got him. Sorry.

    You follow your scholar's qiyās, and I will follow the Qur'ān and Sunnah.

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    This is the full hadeeth:

    حَدَّثَنَا عُثْمَانُ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ، حَدَّثَنَا جَرِيرٌ، عَنِ الأَعْمَشِ، عَنْ أَبِي صَالِحٍ، عَنْ أَبِي، سَعِيدٍ قَالَ كَانَ بَيْنَ خَالِدِ بْنِ الْوَلِيدِ وَبَيْنَ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ عَوْفٍ شَىْءٌ فَسَبَّهُ خَالِدٌ فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ "‏ لاَ تَسُبُّوا أَحَدًا مِنْ أَصْحَابِي فَإِنَّ أَحَدَكُمْ لَوْ أَنْفَقَ مِثْلَ أُحُدٍ ذَهَبًا مَا أَدْرَكَ مُدَّ أَحَدِهِمْ وَلاَ نَصِيفَهُ ‏"‏ ‏.‏



    Abu Sa'id reported there was some altercation between Khalid b. Walid and Abd al-Rahman b. 'Auf and Khalid reviled him. Thereupon Allah's Messwger (ﷺ) said:


    None should revile my Companions. for if one amongst you were to spend as much gold as Uhud, it would not amount to as much as one mudd of one of them or half of it.

    Khalid bin Waleed was a sahabi himself . But here Rasoolallah didn't include him in this category of sahaba whom he forbade him from reviling after his dispute with Abdul Rahman bin 'Aoof . He was talking about his older companions here.

    And this doesn't mean cursing any sahabi is fine, it's haraam and potentially kufr, the point is only that this hadeeth which was about the a specific group of the companions shouldn't be misinterpreted.

    http://sunnah.com/muslim/44/317
    You think you know more than my scholar's qiyās? He was more learned than you and all other scholars combined. Yeah, the devil was the greatest scholar too and look where his qiyās of fire being better than tīn got him. Sorry.

    You follow your scholar's qiyās, and I will follow the Qur'ān and Sunnah.

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by Linkdeutscher View Post
    This is the full hadeeth:

    حَدَّثَنَا عُثْمَانُ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ، حَدَّثَنَا جَرِيرٌ، عَنِ الأَعْمَشِ، عَنْ أَبِي صَالِحٍ، عَنْ أَبِي، سَعِيدٍ قَالَ كَانَ بَيْنَ خَالِدِ بْنِ الْوَلِيدِ وَبَيْنَ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ عَوْفٍ شَىْءٌ فَسَبَّهُ خَالِدٌ فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ "‏ لاَ تَسُبُّوا أَحَدًا مِنْ أَصْحَابِي فَإِنَّ أَحَدَكُمْ لَوْ أَنْفَقَ مِثْلَ أُحُدٍ ذَهَبًا مَا أَدْرَكَ مُدَّ أَحَدِهِمْ وَلاَ نَصِيفَهُ ‏"‏ ‏.‏



    Abu Sa'id reported there was some altercation between Khalid b. Walid and Abd al-Rahman b. 'Auf and Khalid reviled him. Thereupon Allah's Messwger (ﷺ) said:


    None should revile my Companions. for if one amongst you were to spend as much gold as Uhud, it would not amount to as much as one mudd of one of them or half of it.

    Khalid bin Waleed was a sahabi himself . But here Rasoolallah didn't include him in this category of sahaba whom he forbade him from reviling after his dispute with Abdul Rahman bin 'Aoof . He was talking about his older companions here.

    And this doesn't mean cursing any sahabi is fine, it's haraam and potentially kufr, the point is only that this hadeeth which was about the a specific group of the companions shouldn't be misinterpreted.

    http://sunnah.com/muslim/44/317
    Abdul rehman RA was an ashra Mubashra , accepted Islam in initial stages . People do not understand there is a vast difference between accepting Islam initially and later.

    In Initial stage accepting Islam meant torcher , beating up , even getting killed . After Hijrat it became much easier , since Muslims were on rise, and after Mecca , there was no choice , because surah tauba ayats clearly mentioned , those who do not accept Islam would have to leave . There was no other option. How can anyone match those sabiqoon companions .

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by Bismil View Post
    Abdul rehman RA was an ashra Mubashra , accepted Islam in initial stages . People do not understand there is a vast difference between accepting Islam initially and later.

    In Initial stage accepting Islam meant torcher , beating up , even getting killed . After Hijrat it became much easier , since Muslims were on rise, and after Mecca , there was no choice , because surah tauba ayats clearly mentioned , those who do not accept Islam would have to leave . There was no other option. How can anyone match those sabiqoon companions .
    *torture

    Yes all the sahaba are obviously not equal, but they're still better than any non sahabi.

    It was said to ‘Abdullah bin al-Mubarak, “Which of the two is better, Mu’aawiyyah or ‘Umar bin ‘Abdil-’Azeez?” So he said, “The dust gathered in the nose of Mu’awiyyah with the Messenger of Allah is better and superior than ‘Umar bin ‘Abdil-Azeez.”
    [al-Bidayah wan-Nihayah: 8/130]



    This is was the aqeedah of the salaf regarding the sahaba.
    You think you know more than my scholar's qiyās? He was more learned than you and all other scholars combined. Yeah, the devil was the greatest scholar too and look where his qiyās of fire being better than tīn got him. Sorry.

    You follow your scholar's qiyās, and I will follow the Qur'ān and Sunnah.

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by Linkdeutscher View Post
    *torture

    Yes all the sahaba are obviously not equal, but they're still better than any non sahabi.

    [al-Bidayah wan-Nihayah: 8/130]



    This is was the aqeedah of the salaf regarding the sahaba.
    Surprisingly , Umar Abdul Aziz is called Khulafa E Rashid , even though he was not one.

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    not to cause any trouble, but Allah swt loves two names, Abdullah and AbdurRahman. why not name him one of those?

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by Abdell View Post
    I don't have a wife...but I was thinking, how dangerous of a name would muawiyah be if my son ever comes across shias?

    I was thinking of naming my son that name so he can contemplate and realize the evil and the all the wrongs in Shism...

    I also realized it's name that no one ever names their sons anymore? Is it because of the minority shias and the possibilities that can happen with that name?

    It seems like a noble idea, but if the risk are real...
    Akhi who cares what those dogs of Jahannam think,

    It's a good name

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhaqqiq View Post
    not to cause any trouble, but Allah swt loves two names, Abdullah and AbdurRahman. why not name him one of those?
    Plus Abdullah is also the name of many sahaba as well.

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Also there were many sahaba by the name of Muawiya.


    Mu’aawiyah ibn Anas al-Sulami, Mu’aawiyah ibn Thawr ibn ‘Ubaadah ibn al-Bakka’ al-‘Aamiri al-Bakkaa’i, Mu’aawiyah ibn Jaahimah ibn al-‘Abbaas ibn Mardaas al-Sulami, Mu’aawiyah ibn al-Haarith ibn al-Muttalib ibn ‘Abd al-Muttalib, Mu’aawiyah ibn Hudayj, Mu’aawiyah ibn Hazn al-Qushayri, Mu’aawiyah ibn al-Hakam al-Sulami, Mu’aawiyah ibn Haydah ibn Mu’aawiyah ibn Qushayr ibn Ka’b ibn Rabee’ah ibn ‘Aamir ibn Sa’sa’ah al-Qushayri, Mu’aawiyah ibn Abi Rabee’ah al-Jarami, Mu’aawiyah ibn Sufyaan ibn ‘Abd al-Asad, Mu’aawiyah ibn Suwayd ibn Muqrin al-Muzani, Mu’aawiyah ibn Sa’sa’ah al-Tameemi, Mu’aawiyah ibn ‘Ubaadah ibn ‘Aqeel, Mu’aawiyah ibn ‘Abd-Allaah, Mu’aawiyah ibn ‘Urwah al-Du’ali, Mu’aawiyah ibn ‘Afeef al-Muzani, Mu’aawiyah ibn ‘Amr, Mu’aawiyah ibn Qarmal, Mu’aawiyah ibn Muhsan ibn ‘Alas, Mu’aawiyah ibn Mardaas ibn Abi ‘Aamir, Mu’aawiyah ibn Mu’aawiyah al-Muzani, Mu’aawiyah ibn al-Mugheerah ibn Abi’l-‘Aas ibn Umayyah al-Umawi, Mu’aawiyah ibn Muqrin al-Muzani, Mu’aawiyah ibn Nafee’, Mu’aawiyah al-Thaqafi, Mu’aawiyah al-‘Adhari, Mu’aawiyah al-Laythi and Mu’aawiyah al-Hudhali. Al-Isaabah by al-Haafiz Ibn Hajar (6/145-146).

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by Abdell View Post
    I don't have a wife...but I was thinking, how dangerous of a name would muawiyah be if my son ever comes across shias?

    I was thinking of naming my son that name so he can contemplate and realize the evil and the all the wrongs in Shism...

    I also realized it's name that no one ever names their sons anymore? Is it because of the minority shias and the possibilities that can happen with that name?

    It seems like a noble idea, but if the risk are real...
    It's a good name masha Allah
    82. Verily, when He intends a thing, His Command is, "be", and it is! 83. So glory to Him in Whose hands is the dominion of all things: and to Him will you be all brought back. Quran surah 36: Ya-sin

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by Bismil View Post
    have you checked the full hadeeth ? Kindly quote the full hadeeth so that we know when did prophet say that and to whom.
    You trying to insinuate that in some Twisted context you are allowed to diss a Sahaba?

    Provide proof for this otherwise, make Tawbah and never make any Dirty insinuations again,

    Whoever hates the Sahaba radiallahu anhum,disses them,is a Kaafir,

    This is what those despicable Dogs of Jahannam (Shi'a) do

    Next time think before you speak,

    Allah عز و جل said he is pleased with the Sahaba radiallahu anhum, they are the best generation of Muslims,
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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by Saif-Uddin View Post
    You trying to insinuate that in some Twisted context you are allowed to diss a Sahaba?

    Provide proof for this otherwise, make Tawbah and never make any Dirty insinuations again,

    Whoever hates the Sahaba radiallahu anhum,disses them,is a Kaafir,

    This is what those despicable Dogs of Jahannam (Shi'a) do

    Next time think before you speak,

    Allah عز و جل said he is pleased with the Sahaba radiallahu anhum, they are the best generation of Muslims,
    What he said there was not wrong.
    You think you know more than my scholar's qiyās? He was more learned than you and all other scholars combined. Yeah, the devil was the greatest scholar too and look where his qiyās of fire being better than tīn got him. Sorry.

    You follow your scholar's qiyās, and I will follow the Qur'ān and Sunnah.

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by Saif-Uddin View Post
    You trying to insinuate that in some Twisted context you are allowed to diss a Sahaba?

    Provide proof for this otherwise, make Tawbah and never make any Dirty insinuations again,

    Whoever hates the Sahaba radiallahu anhum,disses them,is a Kaafir,

    This is what those despicable Dogs of Jahannam (Shi'a) do

    Next time think before you speak,

    Allah عز و جل said he is pleased with the Sahaba radiallahu anhum, they are the best generation of Muslims,
    Why do you not go and read the full hadeeth. When any Non Muslim argues that Quran says that " Go and kill the disbelievers . where ever you find them " , what you say to them ? You say look at the context . So for Hadeeth there is No context ? Its in the hadeeth itself.

    Also , kindly read the Quran properly . Read surah Tawbah Ayat 100 - 102 , Allah swt himself divides the companions into three groups.

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    Re: I want to name my future son Muawiyah..

    Quote Originally Posted by Linkdeutscher View Post
    What he said there was not wrong.
    Its okay brother , some people are too much engrossed into sects .

 

 

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