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    Wearing the Liverpool F.C. top?

    *Is it permissible to wear the Liverpool football club jersey, as it
    has
    the Carlsberg logo as its sponsor?*

    Answered by Shaykh Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawthari





    In the name of Allah, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful,



    Carlsberg is an international provider of beer, lager and other
    beverage
    brands. Carlsberg's primary focus is the production, sale and marketing
    of beer, with secondary activities in soft drink and water production.



    The company also sponsors many sports events and sports teams. Amongst
    its various sponsorship deals, Carlsberg sponsors the renowned British
    football (soccer) club Liverpool, hence the club's T-shirt has the
    Carlsberg logo on it.



    The ruling on wearing such tops and T-shirts is quite obvious, in that
    it is not permitted for a Muslim to wear anything that advertises and
    promotes beer, alcohol or any other unlawful item. By wearing such
    tops,
    one will be indirectly supporting their beer industry and assisting in
    sin.



    Allah Most High says:



    "Help you one another in righteousness and piety, but help you not one
    another in sin and rancour." (Surah al-Ma'idah, V: 2)



    Sayyiduna Anas ibn Malik (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the
    Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace) cursed ten
    people in connection with alcohol: the wine-presser, the one for who it
    is pressed, the one who drinks it, the one who carries it, the one for
    whom it is carried, the one who serves it, the one who sells it, the
    one
    who benefits from the price paid for it, the one who buys it, and the
    one for whom it is bought." (Sunan Tirmidhi, no: 1295)



    The above and other such narrations from the Messenger of Allah (Allah
    bless him andgive him peace) quite categorically indicate that trading
    in alcohol, selling it, serving it to others and being associated with
    it in any way is, without doubt, unlawful and incurs the curse of Allah
    Most High.



    Therefore, it will not be permitted for a Muslim to wear, use and carry
    items that advertise and promote alcohol. Unfortunately, some Muslims
    do
    not realize this; hence continue to use products prompting alcohol such
    as tops, T-shirts, sports bags and other items. This is negligence on
    their part and must be rectified.



    And Allah knows best



    Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawthari

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    just flicked over to the BBC site:

    Everton 1

    Liverpool 0

    [sorry to rub it in Sajid]


    Quote Originally Posted by sajid
    im soooo happy!!! It was a last minute goal aswell!!!!
    That was then, this is now.

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    Now here's the real killer question:

    Is it permissable to support a sports team?

    Social control after all..
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    You tell me bruv....

    btw could you define "support" - just a bit worried about semantics!

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    Hehe. Consider the someone partisan nature of being a supporter of a given football team - for example if you are an Everton supporter and your fellow muslim is a Liverpool supporter, you may on occasion make adverse comments which stem from the rivalry of your two clubs.

    Here's some of my musings from a while back:

    You know, I've been thinking.

    In the time of the Prophet (pbuh), we had a certain range of sports - horse riding, archery, playing with your wife (?) - occasionally wrestling and foot racing.

    The interesting thing here is that none of these were team sports.

    When did team sports first arise?


    Team sports tend to be regimented - captains lead, everyone else plays by the rules. Infringements upon these rules lead to penalties which directly affect your team.

    Thus as people grow up playing these sports, they become used to having people in authority and following this authority for optimal outcomes - they learn to respect authority which delivers the correct results. They learn to work as part of a collective.

    The physical aspect is regulated by the rules - it's channeled by these in a similar way to that which Omar indicated. You don't have to beat up someone physically to alleviate pent up aggression (although this does happen, there are appropriate punishments), instead you can add a level of abstraction and relieve this tension by channeling it - teaching you to channel your energies towards a given task.

    This is probably one of the reasons why sports such as football, once organised in a coherent way with a decent structure, are so effective within developing inner city areas where the children unfortunately often lack authority figures/control. This may also explain why Brazilians aren't good team players - there is no structure in the favelas as the government has other pressing concerns.

    As we move this from the microsocial level to the national level, we can see how sport acts as a remarkably effective social control - anyone in England can walk through the streets of any major town during England's game against Croatia and they will find the streets absolutely empty as national pride (again an interesting contsruct) intermingles with the instilled values delivered by growing up playing a nice game of soccer - there are endless talks about tactics and form, every aspect of a relatively simple game analysed ad extremum as it captures the public imagination
    Sport does do extremely well as a social control. The American paradigm in particular is fascinating - is anyone worth $250 million over 10 years (a-rod)? Little league vicarious living of parents, varsity football/basketball (I believe Duke got $100 million from basketball sponsorship alone last year).. Ahh..
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    Don't worry, I'm not an Evertonian. And in any case, I prefer playing over watching Let me know when you get the answer to your question.

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    I don't think there is an answer to be honest

    I just thought I'd start up a discussion. Sports are interesting thingers.
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    LOL yeh bad day for us

    actually i wear an Argentian footy top

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    Glory to the Gunners. Death to the Scousers.
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    A Gooner in Bangladesh!?! Thats satellite television for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by faqir
    A Gooner in Bangladesh!?! Thats satellite television for you!
    Yes, the wonders of satellite cable. I can now see all Premiership matches every Saturday and Sunday night. So watch out Sajid, I may catch you waving one day with that Argentine jersey.

    Arsenal's been my favourite squad since '98, when I first got hooked into football. I even made an Arsenal fansite once. Go Gunners!
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    Hey, LOL, I just found out Arsenal is derived from an Arabic word - http://www.worldwidewords.org/topicalwords/tw-ars1.htm. Cool.
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    lol actuall i dnt go to foooty matches never have been...usually the crowds there are racist

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