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    Is there such a thing as good magic? by Abu Ibraheem




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    Re: Is there such a thing as good magic? by Abu Ibraheem

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    Re: Is there such a thing as good magic? by Abu Ibraheem

    Quote Originally Posted by Simply_Logical View Post
    bump...
    Who is in charge of sticky thread :-

    we need to improve it:-

    Taweez needs to be on it - with all your collection -

    then mtim and all is collection

    then abu ibraheem and his collection

    and so on :-

    its very irritating looking for something at times

    dont get why there isnt a jinn - then evil eye then magic thread as a stick??!!!
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    Re: Is there such a thing as good magic? by Abu Ibraheem

    Quote Originally Posted by startingarabic View Post
    Who is in charge of sticky thread :-

    we need to improve it:-

    Taweez needs to be on it - with all your collection -

    then mtim and all is collection

    then abu ibraheem and his collection

    and so on :-

    its very irritating looking for something at times

    dont get why there isnt a jinn - then evil eye then magic thread as a stick??!!!
    the mods are in charge of sticky threads, i do agree though there should have more sticky threads within this section of the forum

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    Re: Is there such a thing as good magic? by Abu Ibraheem

    Quote Originally Posted by Simply_Logical View Post
    the mods are in charge of sticky threads, i do agree though there should have more sticky threads within this section of the forum
    who are mods = are the peeps as well

    you shouldnt need to bump - it the video needs to be in stick... it took me a while to understand dump.. as well

    can some1 not tell them to start the following threads

    jinn possession and cure
    evil eye and cure
    magic and cure

    Taweez and its haram

    then mtim -with full name) and all is collection

    then abu ibraheem and his collection

    other Raaqi collection

    Video collection

    Audio collection

    Audio Repeat collection

    Audio surah 112 113 114 collection

    Youtube Magic collection only
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    Re: Is there such a thing as good magic? by Abu Ibraheem

    Quote Originally Posted by startingarabic View Post
    who are mods = are the peeps as well

    you shouldnt need to bump - it the video needs to be in stick... it took me a while to understand dump.. as well

    can some1 not tell them to start the following threads

    jinn possession and cure
    evil eye and cure
    magic and cure

    Taweez and its haram

    then mtim -with full name) and all is collection

    then abu ibraheem and his collection

    other Raaqi collection

    Video collection

    Audio collection

    Audio Repeat collection

    Audio surah 112 113 114 collection

    Youtube Magic collection only
    Etc
    quiet a few mods on here, not sure how many exactly...

    well i bump them because theyre beneficial

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    Re: Is there such a thing as good magic? by Abu Ibraheem

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    Re: Is there such a thing as good magic? by Abu Ibraheem

    Is there such a thing as good magic? by Abu Ibraheem
    Surah Taha, Verse 69:

    وَأَلْقِ مَا فِي يَمِينِكَ تَلْقَفْ مَا صَنَعُوا إِنَّمَا صَنَعُوا كَيْدُ سَاحِرٍ وَلَا يُفْلِحُ السَّاحِرُ حَيْثُ أَتَىٰ

    "And throw that which is in your right hand! It will swallow up that which they have made. That which they have made is only a magician's trick,
    and the magician will never be successful, no matter whatever amount (of skill) he may attain."

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    Re: Is there such a thing as good magic? by Abu Ibraheem

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    Re: Is there such a thing as good magic? by Abu Ibraheem

    Quote Originally Posted by Simply_Logical View Post
    Is there such a thing as good magic? by Abu Ibraheem


    It's so strange from my perspective, how can a believer in Islam perform magic on someone else? The example he gave of the wife performing magic on their husbands then crying to a shaykh afterwards? That's so ridiculous.
    For me it's like worshipping a wooden idol.

    In such circumstances , thanking Allah that you are not facing such trials is a must. There are actually muslims struggling with this even though it is clearly forbidden and satanic.

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    Re: Is there such a thing as good magic? by Abu Ibraheem

    Quote Originally Posted by AmantuBillahi View Post


    It's so strange from my perspective, how can a believer in Islam perform magic on someone else? The example he gave of the wife performing magic on their husbands then crying to a shaykh afterwards? That's so ridiculous.
    For me it's like worshipping a wooden idol.

    In such circumstances , thanking Allah that you are not facing such trials is a must. There are actually muslims struggling with this even though it is clearly forbidden and satanic.
    Doesn't help when you have imams and sheikhs saying it is permissible, or only 'good magic'

    when the supposedly more knowledgeable people are in clear kufr, it becomes harder for the masses to avoid, and they then use it as an excuse.
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    Re: Is there such a thing as good magic? by Abu Ibraheem

    Quote Originally Posted by Gingerbeardman View Post
    Doesn't help when you have imams and sheikhs saying it is permissible, or only 'good magic'

    when the supposedly more knowledgeable people are in clear kufr, it becomes harder for the masses to avoid, and they then use it as an excuse.
    There are actually so called sheikh's saying there is Good Sihr?!!!

    نعوذ بالله من ذلك

    It's Kufr Akbar, and these degenerates telling people it's good?
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    Re: Is there such a thing as good magic? by Abu Ibraheem

    Quote Originally Posted by Saif-Uddin View Post
    There are actually so called sheikh's saying there is Good Sihr?!!!

    نعوذ بالله من ذلك

    It's Kufr Akbar, and these degenerates telling people it's good?
    Some scholars allowed sihr to combat sihr.

    But that's an incorrect opinion. But the scholars who said that are not degenerates, they simply did incorrect ijtihaad.
    You think you know more than my scholar's qiyās? He was more learned than you and all other scholars combined. Yeah, the devil was the greatest scholar too and look where his qiyās of fire being better than tīn got him. Sorry.

    You follow your scholar's qiyās, and I will follow the Qur'ān and Sunnah.

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    Re: Is there such a thing as good magic? by Abu Ibraheem

    Quote Originally Posted by Linkdeutscher View Post
    Some scholars allowed sihr to combat sihr.

    But that's an incorrect opinion. But the scholars who said that are not degenerates, they simply did incorrect ijtihaad.
    It's Kufr Akbar, how did they justify it when Allah عز و جل himself said such people (those who practice magic) will have no share in the hereafter?

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    Re: Is there such a thing as good magic? by Abu Ibraheem

    Quote Originally Posted by Saif-Uddin View Post
    It's Kufr Akbar, how did they justify it when Allah عز و جل himself said such people (those who practice magic) will have no share in the hereafter?

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    Re: Is there such a thing as good magic? by Abu Ibraheem

    Really can't understand how or what makes a scholar say that it is allowed. Yes it's a minority opinion (maybe in 'academics') but in the real world it's clearly not a minority opinion.

    I'm not saying I'm better than these scholars of the past (or present) but it is mind boggling, especially when the older scholars were prominent.

    Always thought these were the basics.

    I wonder who the first scholar/person was that said it is ok.

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    Re: Is there such a thing as good magic? by Abu Ibraheem

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    Re: Is there such a thing as good magic? by Abu Ibraheem

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