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    Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?



    Time and again we come across narrations that may amaze us and we rush to spread them around without sparing a minute to think: "Is this an authentic hadeeth?"

    Many a time the narrations people send around in emails etc tend to be fabrications, and people spread these things unknowingly, but that will not be sufficient as an excuse for you, because you will be asked: "Why did you not ask if you did not know?"

    So with that in mind I am making this thread, if you want to know the authenticity of a narration then post it here, and In-Shaa Allaah we will endeavour to help you.



    "The `Aalim knows who is a Jaahil, because he used to be a Jaahil before. But the Jaahil does not know who is an `Aalim, because he was never an `Aalim before."


    Imaam Ibn Taymiyyah Rahimahullaah in Majmoo`ul Fataawaa.



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    Post Hadeeth Grading Thread

    السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته

    If you want to check the authenticity of a hadeeth or narration, post it in this thread insha'Allah.

    بارك الله فيكم

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    Re: Hadeeth Grading Thread

    يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّاسُ ٱعْبُدُوا۟ رَبَّكُمُ ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَكُمْ وَٱلَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلِكُمْ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَتَّقُونَ

    O mankind, worship your Lord, who created you and those before you, that you may become righteous

    Surah Al Baqarah ayah 21

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    Re: Hadeeth Grading Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by aynina View Post
    The narrators of the hadiith are:

    Hamdaan bin 'ali -> 'abd al-rahmaan -> muusaa bin 'uQbah -> 'ubaid bin sulaimaan -> his father -> mu'aadh bin jabal who said: The Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) said:

    لَوْ تَعْلَمُ الْمَرْأَةُ حَقَّ الزَّوْجِ مَا قَعَدَتْ مَا حَضَرَ غَدَاؤُهُ وَعَشَاؤُهُ حَتَّى يَفْرُغَ



    Ibn Hajar al-Haytami said he did not recognize 'ubaid bin sulaimaan. The reason he did not recognize the name was because there was taSHiif [misplacement of the diacritical marks, misspelling, slip of the pen].

    The real name is salmaan and not sulaimaan.

    Ibn Hajar al-'asQalaani said the chain of narrators was hasan.

    hadiith.jpg

    Reference(s):

    Dorar Encylopedia of Hadith

    مختصر زوائد مسند البزار على الكتب الستة ومسند أحمد

    Volume 1 Page 592

    IslamWeb

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    Re: Hadeeth Grading Thread

    I heard a Hadith but I don't know the exact wording. It's about Zaynab the daughter of the Prophet s.a.w getting punishment of the grave, and Rasulullah stood at her grave making dua' for her until the punishment decreased.

    Is this Hadith authentic?

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    Re: Hadeeth Grading Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeshanParvez View Post
    The narrators of the hadiith are:

    Hamdaan bin 'ali -> 'abd al-rahmaan -> muusaa bin 'uQbah -> 'ubaid bin sulaimaan -> his father -> mu'aadh bin jabal who said: The Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) said:

    لَوْ تَعْلَمُ الْمَرْأَةُ حَقَّ الزَّوْجِ مَا قَعَدَتْ مَا حَضَرَ غَدَاؤُهُ وَعَشَاؤُهُ حَتَّى يَفْرُغَ



    Ibn Hajar al-Haytami said he did not recognize 'ubaid bin sulaimaan. The reason he did not recognize the name was because there was taSHiif [misplacement of the diacritical marks, misspelling, slip of the pen].

    The real name is salmaan and not sulaimaan.

    Ibn Hajar al-'asQalaani said the chain of narrators was hasan.

    hadiith.jpg

    Reference(s):

    Dorar Encylopedia of Hadith

    مختصر زوائد مسند البزار على الكتب الستة ومسند أحمد

    Volume 1 Page 592

    IslamWeb


    So brother this means we cannot eat with our husband at the same time?
    يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّاسُ ٱعْبُدُوا۟ رَبَّكُمُ ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَكُمْ وَٱلَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلِكُمْ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَتَّقُونَ

    O mankind, worship your Lord, who created you and those before you, that you may become righteous

    Surah Al Baqarah ayah 21

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    Re: Hadeeth Grading Thread

    The hadith shows the importance of a husband. If your husband tells you not to eat with him, then you won't eat with him because you are to obey him.

    If he tells you to eat with him, you do.

    The hadith tells you how much respect a husband deserves.

    There is another hadith which says that if I had ordered anyone to prostrate to anyone I would have ordered the wife to prostrate to her husband.

    It is interesting to note that both hadith use the particle lau for the condition.

    Lau is a particle of tamann and signifies that the second clause is not going to be because the first clause is not going to be.

    This is opposed to the particle 'in which is employed for conditional clauses where the second clause will come to be because the first one will be.

    To understand this better consider the use of this particle in the Qur'aan in the Verse "Had there been, in them, any god except Allaah, they would have gone to ruin..."

    There never was going to be another god. That is not possible. Hence, the conditional clause employs lau and not 'in. However, it gets a point across.

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    Re: Hadeeth Grading Thread

    Does anyone know the authenticity of this hadith:

    Abu Nuʻaym Al-Asbahaani in his book Sifat Al-Jannah. It reads: Ibn ʻAbbaas may Allaah have mercy upon him said, “The people of Paradise shall be beardless, except for Moosa ibn ʻImraan (Moses), whose beard reaches down to his navel, and they will all bear their (worldly) names, except for Aadam, who shall be nicknamed Abu Muhammad.

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    Re: Hadeeth Grading Thread

    Please comment on the authenticity of the following hadith.

    The Messenger of Allah said:
    'Kufr results from not understanding Arabic; when they are faced with something that they do not understand, they will make it complicated and introduce innovations ."

    Tareekh at-Tabari, 5/245 [Referenced from The Biography of Uthman by Muhammad Ali As-Sallabi]
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    Re: Hadeeth Grading Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by bhshawon View Post
    Please comment on the authenticity of the following hadith.

    The Messenger of Allah said:
    'Kufr results from not understanding Arabic; when they are faced with something that they do not understand, they will make it complicated and introduce innovations ."

    Tareekh at-Tabari, 5/245 [Referenced from The Biography of Uthman by Muhammad Ali As-Sallabi]
    The hadith is as follows:

    قالوا: وكان كتابه -أي عثمان - إلى العامة: أما بعد، فإنكم إنما بلغتم ما بلغتم بالاقتداء والاتباع، فلا تلفتنكم الدنيا عن أمركم، فإن أمر هذه الأمة صائر إلى الابتداع بعد اجتماع ثلاث فيكم: تكامل النعم، وبلوغ أولادكم من السبايا، وقراءة الأعراب والأعاجم القرآن، فإن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم قال: ( الكفر في العجمة )، فإذا استعجم عليهم أمر تكلفوا وابتدعوا " انتهى. "تاريخ الطبري" (4 / 245).


    It has no basis.

    It is not allowed to attribute it to the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam).

    However, the meaning contained in it has substance. A group of people of knowledge have attested to it. History has also born witness to the fact that a lack of the Arabic language leads to innovations.

    A person who does not know Arabic will read the Qur'aan; he will come up with a Tafsiir, based on the translation, which is wrong. We have seen people do it today. Some know a few words of Arabic and base their incorrect understandings of the Qur'aan on that. They lack knowledge of the Sunnah. They admit it. Yet, they go about making Tafsiir of the Qur'aan. They are complete jaahils. Some of them have gotten the humiliation they deserve in this world.

    The Hadith, though, is without a chain and basis.


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    Re: Hadeeth Grading Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Learnerofknowledge View Post
    Does anyone know the authenticity of this hadith:

    Abu Nuʻaym Al-Asbahaani in his book Sifat Al-Jannah. It reads: Ibn ʻAbbaas may Allaah have mercy upon him said, “The people of Paradise shall be beardless, except for Moosa ibn ʻImraan (Moses), whose beard reaches down to his navel, and they will all bear their (worldly) names, except for Aadam, who shall be nicknamed Abu Muhammad.
    That hadith is baatil.

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