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    Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?



    Time and again we come across narrations that may amaze us and we rush to spread them around without sparing a minute to think: "Is this an authentic hadeeth?"

    Many a time the narrations people send around in emails etc tend to be fabrications, and people spread these things unknowingly, but that will not be sufficient as an excuse for you, because you will be asked: "Why did you not ask if you did not know?"

    So with that in mind I am making this thread, if you want to know the authenticity of a narration then post it here, and In-Shaa Allaah we will endeavour to help you.



    "The `Aalim knows who is a Jaahil, because he used to be a Jaahil before. But the Jaahil does not know who is an `Aalim, because he was never an `Aalim before."


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    Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

    jazakallah khayr for the reminder and if I ever need help I know where to go

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    Where have you studied? Who were your teachers? What Aqeedah do you follow? How many years did you study? Are you a Scholar in Hadith?

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    Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

    Ma Sha Allah good thread. Subscribed.

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    Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

    *big grin* can you pleeeease.....check these hadiths authenticity? They're awesome, but I can't find their Arabic versions and they were passed in internet. I'm afraid people just put some big names like Bukhari beside the hadith, so they will look legit.

    Here goes my collection, sorry if they're too much :

    1 ) When someone sees a disabled person and said (without being heard of that person) : “Praised be to Allah who saved me from such trial Allah gave him and give me an advantage of a good perfection above most of His creatures”, then he will not be afflicted with the same trial whatever happens (Hadith Abu Dawud)

    2 ) Look To Those Inferior To Yourselves; So That You May Not Hold Allah's Benefits In Contempt

    3) Renewing peace between two aggrieved parties surpassed ritual praying, fasting, and almsgiving (Bukhari – As reported by Abu Darda)

    4) The greatest jihad is the conquest of self (????)

    5) Whoever Suppresses His Anger, When He Is Capable Of Showing It, Allah Will Give Him A Great Reward.

    6) I dunno the exact wording, but it is more or less : If a tyrant rules a land, may the inhabitants (people) look at themselves / fix their worship quality first so that Allah will replace for them a new softer hearted ruler

    And all the heavens go their way.... And only change is here to stay...

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    Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

    Quote Originally Posted by .Kid. View Post


    Where have you studied? Who were your teachers? What Aqeedah do you follow? How many years did you study? Are you a Scholar in Hadith?
    Many if not most of the answers to your questions you can find on http://darulilm.wordpress.com



    "The `Aalim knows who is a Jaahil, because he used to be a Jaahil before. But the Jaahil does not know who is an `Aalim, because he was never an `Aalim before."


    Imaam Ibn Taymiyyah Rahimahullaah in Majmoo`ul Fataawaa.



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    Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

    Quote Originally Posted by arachnide View Post
    *big grin* can you pleeeease.....check these hadiths authenticity? They're awesome, but I can't find their Arabic versions and they were passed in internet. I'm afraid people just put some big names like Bukhari beside the hadith, so they will look legit.

    Here goes my collection, sorry if they're too much :

    1 ) When someone sees a disabled person and said (without being heard of that person) : “Praised be to Allah who saved me from such trial Allah gave him and give me an advantage of a good perfection above most of His creatures”, then he will not be afflicted with the same trial whatever happens (Hadith Abu Dawud)

    2 ) Look To Those Inferior To Yourselves; So That You May Not Hold Allah's Benefits In Contempt

    3) Renewing peace between two aggrieved parties surpassed ritual praying, fasting, and almsgiving (Bukhari – As reported by Abu Darda)

    4) The greatest jihad is the conquest of self (????)

    5) Whoever Suppresses His Anger, When He Is Capable Of Showing It, Allah Will Give Him A Great Reward.

    6) I dunno the exact wording, but it is more or less : If a tyrant rules a land, may the inhabitants (people) look at themselves / fix their worship quality first so that Allah will replace for them a new softer hearted ruler
    Now that's what i like, ask and don't be shy, because a shy person cannot learn.


    1: The hadeeth actually says: "Whoever sees a person afflicted with a difficulty and says: "All Praise is due to Allaah Who has saved me from what Allaah has afflicted you with, and has favoured me graciously above many of those He has created.", he does not say these words but that Allaah will safeguard him from it whatever it may be as long as he lives."

    The hadeeth is Hasan (or rather i'm just going to call it authentic to make things easier), it is reported by imaam at-tirmidhi rahimahullaah.

    Note: This should be said to oneself and should not be heard by the other person.

    2: The hadeeth says: "Look at those who are beneath you and do not look at those who are above you, because that is most likely to prevent you from thinking little of the favours of Allaah."

    The hadeeth is authentic, reported by imaam muslim rahimahullaah.

    3: The hadeeth says: "Should i not inform you of that which surpasses in rank Salaah, fasting and charity?" They (the sahaabah) replied: "Yes indeed.", He (Sallallaahu `Alayhi Wa Sallam) said: "Reconciling people. And breaking up people is a shaver (which shaves away your deen.)."

    The hadeeth is authentic, reported by imaam abu daawood rahimahullaah and others.

    Note: This refers to nafl salaah etc not fardh.

    4: That narration is not authentic, at best it is weak, while some say it is fabricated. It is discussed here: http://darulilm.wordpress.com/2009/0...reater-jihaad/

    5:The hadeeth says: "Whoever swallows his anger while he is capable of acting upon it, Allaah will call him in front of all of creation on the day of Qiyaamah so that Allaah will give him the choice to choose whichever of the Hoorul `Een he wishes."

    The hadeeth is authentic, reported by imaam abu daawood rahimahullaah and others.

    6: I cannot think of a hadeeth which has that wording, the closest i can think of is the narration: "As you are, so will your leaders be." But that narration has been declared weak by imaam ibn hajar rahimahullaah.

    Wallaahu A`lam.



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    Imaam Ibn Taymiyyah Rahimahullaah in Majmoo`ul Fataawaa.



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    Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?



    Subscribed, this is indeed a great service so let's test it!

    I have found this, and I really like it, but I don't know what it's grade is:

    Ibn ‘Abbas (ra) narrated, the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said, “And when you get angry, keep silent.” (Ahmad, Ibn Abi Dunya, al-Tabarani, and al-Bayhaqi)

    والمبادرة إلى التكفير إنما تغلب على طباع من يغلب عليهم الجهل - ابن تيمية رحمه الله - بغية المرتاد

    "Rushing towards takfir is an attitude which is dominant over those who are defeated by ignorance." - Ibn Taymiyyah Rahimahullah [Bughyatul Murtaad, page 354]

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    Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

    MashAllah Good thread. but did you know that 'weak' hadiths can be used to bolster our imaan and good deeds?; thus a hadith dont neccessarily have to be 'authentic' [sahih or hasan] to be used':

    Question:Why did the scholars who follow madhab allow acting on weak hadith? Isn’t this a gross innovation? Answer:


    Audio translated by Shaykh Faraz Rabbani
    Text translated by Sr. Shazia Ahmad

    In the Name of Allah, Most Merciful and Compassionate

    May His blessings and peace be on His Beloved Prophet, the best of creation, and his family, companions, and followers

    There is some detail related to this question. What is established according to the imams is that it is not permissible to rely on weak hadiths to derive legal rulings, for in this regard, one does not act on anything other than rigorously authenticated or sound hadith.

    Imam al-Nawawi, may Allah have mercy on him, said in his introduction of his work, al-Adhkar, “As for legal rulings, such as what is permissible and what isn’t, in buying and selling and marriage and divorce and the like; one does not act upon anything other than the rigorously authenticated hadith or the sound hadith, unless it is for being scrupulous in something related to legal rulings. For example, if a weak hadith has been related regarding the dislikedness of certain types of sales or marriages [s. one may act upon it to be scrupulous] for it is recommended that one avoid such things, but it is not obligatory.”

    However, one who looks in the works of fiqh sometimes sees certain rulings that are seemingly built on weak hadiths, which seems to be problematic with what we have just taken. The answer is that the scholars have great differences of opinions when ruling on a hadith, as its soundness or weakness. So, whoever considered a particular hadith sound, acted upon it, and he who considered it weak, did not act upon it.

    Someone who does not have a wide understanding of the Islamic sciences and isn’t aware of who considered those hadith sound, could think that one deduced a ruling from a weak hadith. Meanwhile, this person could be unaware that the scholar who deduced that ruling probably doesn’t consider that hadith to be weak., or is following the ijtihad of those hadith masters and fuqaha’ who consider that hadith sound. And this only is one issue, for there are others.

    And another matter is that the scholars could deduce a ruling using legal analogy (qiyas) and other principles of legal deduction, that are established according to the ulema, with the difference of opinion amongst the ulema regarding the various methodological bases, so, once the ruling is derived from analogy, then they find a weak hadith that supports that ruling (which was based on sound evidence), and they mention it as a general support.

    [f. The weak hadith is not what established the ruling, it was established, in some cases, by qiyas, or other legal bases for deriving rulings, but the ulema mention the weak hadith afterwards in order to give general support to the ruling. A weak hadith is not necessarily fabricated. All it means is that it has a certain amount of weakness such that we don’t have a level of reasonable surety that it was from the words of the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him. Something that we have reasonable surety of is sound and something of an even higher level of surety would make it sahih.]

    And the third matter is that there are certain types of hadith that are considered weak by the hadith experts, like the mursal hadith, which means literally the hanging hadith, in which one of the generations after the Companions, transmitted a hadith from the Prophet leaving out mention of which companion narrated it. In this is a difference of opinion as to whether it is proof or not according to the fuqaha. Generally, the ulema of the hadith do not accept this as a sound hadith, because they look at the text alone. But this is differed upon by the fuqaha. [f. the Hanafis accept mursal hadith, the Malikis generally do, each with their own conditions and the Hanbalis use it more extensively.] So, some scholars permit acting upon the mursal hadith in all cases, [f. like the Hanbalis and to a certain extent the Malikis], because of the proofs they have. And our imam, Imam l-Shafi’i, permits acting upon it with conditions that he established and they are mentioned in the books of Usul (principles of jurisprudence). [The hadith itself according to the standard of hadith experts is weak. But the fuqaha have different standards of accepting and rejecting hadith, even the Shafi’is may accept mursal hadith in certain situations, the Hanafis and Malikis accept them to a certain extent, and the Hanbalis are more extensive in their acceptance of these hadith.]

    [Faraz notes: The primary concern of the muhaddith (hadith specialist) is the narration of the hadith and the soundness of the text, itself. The primary concern of the fuqaha’ is the actual meaning established in the hadith and that leads to methodological differences in general between them and the hadith scholars, and more particularly within the schools of Islamic law.]

    So the person who doesn’t have a wide understanding and is not aware of these differences could have doubts and things will seem confusing to him. After having written the answer above, I saw that Imam al-Nawawi, may Allah have mercy on him, mentioned in his introduction to the Majmu`, his magnificent work of comparative fiqh, an explanation about why Imam al-Shirazi, the author of al Muhadhdhab, on which Imam al-Nawawi wrote his Majmu`, accepted mursal hadith and how he uses them. Imam al-Nawawi actually gave exactly the same two answers that I gave.

    The text of his answer is, “The author, [f. Imam al-Shirazi] mentions in his work al-Muhadhdhab many hadith that are mursal and he uses them as proof while it is established that it is not permitted to use them as proof in general, in the Shafi`i school. Some of those mursal hadith have been reinforced by one of the matters that have been mentioned that strengthen a mursal hadith, so it became a proof. And some of the mursal hadith, the author mentioned them for general support of an established ruling, a ruling established derived by analogy and other forms of legal reasoning.”

    This is what relates to legal rulings, [f. establishing rulings, establishing something to be haram or permissible, establishing certain types of contracts or marriages, transactions,] as for acting upon weak hadith for virtuous deeds, the established ruling is that it is permitted as long as the hadith is not fabricated or excessively weak. Rather, acting on weak hadith for virtuous deed is recommended as mentioned in al-Adhkar.

    According to the very words of Imam al-Nawawi, “The ulema have said, both the fuqaha, the hadith experts and others is that it is permitted, rather recommended to act in virtuous deeds, in acts of exhortation and warning [f. when you encourage something or warn against it]. It is permitted to act upon weak hadith as long as they are not fabricated”.

    [Faraz notes: It is noteworthy to mentioned that most of the books of hadith science mention that there are three madhhabs regarding weak hadith. 1) that they can be acted upon unconditionally, 2) that they can be acted upon conditionally, 3) that they cannot be acted upon whatsoever. This is attributed to Qadi Abu Bakr bin Arabi al Maliki, and a few other scholars, including Shaykh al Awamm. Others have indicated that this is not an established position of Qadi Abu Bakr, rather it is based on a weak understanding of his words. The position of Qadi Abu Bakr which was made clear by his hadith commentaries and his work Ahkam al Qur’an and others, is the same as the rest of the scholars. So, no significant scholars of Ahl al Sunna said that it is not permitted to act on a weak hadith and this is understood from the words of Imam al-Nawawi who said, “The scholars said, both the fuqaha, the hadith experts and others”. Which scholars? The generality of scholars. And the other opinion is considered to be weak and inconsequential, just like those who say that in our times you can’t act on weak hadith; they themselves are inconsequential.]

    And this acting on weak hadith is not an innovation, contrary to what the questioner asked about, because the texts of the Lawgiver and on His behalf, the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, have come with strong encouragement to increase in acts of obedience and to devote one’s time to that and have encouraged us to have fear, in certain texts and in others, to have hope. So whoever acts by a weak hadith in virtuous acts and the like has acted by the general guidance that is established in encouraging good works and virtuous deeds.

    All that can be said is that the particular hadith specified something of good work and the like. So if what is understood from this weak hadith goes against what is established by sound hadith, it is agreed that one doesn’t act upon it, and what is the overwhelming situation, in hadiths that are like this, is that it is in itself excessively weak or fabricated. Though if it is not going against the sound hadith then acting upon it doesn’t take one out from acting on the texts that encourage one to do good works.

    One thing remains: That which is related in such weak hadith of particular reward for particular actions. Even though we do not say that it is established by the Prophet, our good opinion of the generosity of Allah [f. which knows no limits] for the people of His love and people of His obedience make such a reward not far-fetched, rather we can hope for even more.

    [Faraz notes:. From the generosity of ALLah, the Prophet said, the reward of a good deed is ten fold up to seven hundred times that reward to several multiplications thereof. And what is the difference between getting ten times a reward to multiplications of seven hundred? Seven hundred times seven hundred times seven hundred. And how? According to one’s sincerity therein and one’s devotion to Allah. In short, the position of Ahl al Sunna is that people don’t act on weak hadith in rulings. But what is a weak hadith are differed upon by the scholars of Sunni Islam, Certain hadith are considered weak by the generality of the hadith scholars although they themselves differ, but the standards of the fuqaha are somewhat different. Amongst the fuqaha, some consider them to be weak and others don’t because of differences in legal methodology, and these differences in methodology are based on sound understanding, unlike divergences from legal methodology that some contemporaries have, normally those who criticize Sunni Islam So generally, one does not act upon weak hadith to establish rulings except when they indicate precaution or recommendation. And one acts upon them in virtuous deeds and virtuous acts in encouraging and warning and when three conditions are met. First, that it not be excessively weak, secondly, that it return to a general principle within the Shariah, and virtuous deeds do return to a general principle in the Shariah, and of course this second condition presupposes that his hadith not go against anything established in the Shariah.

    The third condition is that one act upon it without the firm conviction that this particular thing is established from the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him. However, one is hopeful that it is established, because the hadith is not so weak that it is not from the guidance of the Prophet with certainty, so one is hopeful that it is established and is hopeful for the reward. But one cannot act upon a weak hadith while being aware that it is weak, with firm conviction that it is established. This is what the scholars have said and these three conditions were mentioned by the generality of the scholars and the fuqaha. Imam Ibn Hajar al-`Asqalani mentioned it and it is related from him by his student, al-Sakhawi, Imam Jalal al din al Suyuti has mentioned this, Mulli Ali al Qari from among the Hanafi scholars and `Abd al Hayy al Laknawi and others have mentioned this. There is general agreement regarding this, so this is the position of Ahl al-Sunna.] And all praise be to Allah, the Lord of the worlds.

    - Amjad.

    http://spa.qibla.com/issue_view.asp?...D=3377&CATE=91

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    Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

    Quote Originally Posted by علي View Post


    Subscribed, this is indeed a great service so let's test it!

    I have found this, and I really like it, but I don't know what it's grade is:

    Ibn ‘Abbas (ra) narrated, the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said, “And when you get angry, keep silent.” (Ahmad, Ibn Abi Dunya, al-Tabarani, and al-Bayhaqi)


    The hadeeth is: "Teach the people, make things easy for them and do not make things difficult, and when one of you becomes angry then let him keep silent."

    It's reported in those sources mentioned, and it is authentic (hasan).



    "The `Aalim knows who is a Jaahil, because he used to be a Jaahil before. But the Jaahil does not know who is an `Aalim, because he was never an `Aalim before."


    Imaam Ibn Taymiyyah Rahimahullaah in Majmoo`ul Fataawaa.



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    Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Mus'ab View Post
    Many if not most of the answers to your questions you can find on http://darulilm.wordpress.com
    Sorry Akhi, I could not find the answers to my questions.

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    Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Mus'ab View Post
    The hadeeth is: "Teach the people, make things easy for them and do not make things difficult, and when one of you becomes angry then let him keep silent."

    It's reported in those sources mentioned, and it is authentic (hasan).
    , very nice.
    والمبادرة إلى التكفير إنما تغلب على طباع من يغلب عليهم الجهل - ابن تيمية رحمه الله - بغية المرتاد

    "Rushing towards takfir is an attitude which is dominant over those who are defeated by ignorance." - Ibn Taymiyyah Rahimahullah [Bughyatul Murtaad, page 354]

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    Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

    Quote Originally Posted by .Kid. View Post
    Sorry Akhi, I could not find the answers to my questions.
    Where i studied is mentioned in the "opening of darul iftaa" page, not that you'd know my madrasah nor any of my teachers.

    My main teachers name is mentioned on all the fataawaa.

    My `aqeedah is mentioned in the `aqeedah section plus i have stated it dozens of times on this forum.

    Well lets just say when george bush's father was president of america i was in madrasah.

    My main fields are hadeeth and fiqh.



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    Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

    I'll be honest, I thought you were joking at first. I haven't seen much of your posts to know these things about you.

    Isn't Darul Iftaa Mufti Ibn Adam Al Kawthari's website/name?


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    Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

    Quote Originally Posted by .Kid. View Post
    I'll be honest, I thought you were joking at first. I haven't seen much of your posts to know these things about you.

    Isn't Darul Iftaa Mufti Ibn Adam Al Kawthari's website/name?

    I can assure you, i did not reach 37,000 posts by joking and posting "lol", though i do have my fair share of useless posts.

    That is his websites name, mine is darul ilm, and mufti faraz ibn adam's is darul fiqh, but all our iftaa sections are darul iftaa.
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    "The `Aalim knows who is a Jaahil, because he used to be a Jaahil before. But the Jaahil does not know who is an `Aalim, because he was never an `Aalim before."


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    Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

    Quote Originally Posted by .Kid. View Post
    I'll be honest, I thought you were joking at first. I haven't seen much of your posts to know these things about you.

    Isn't Darul Iftaa Mufti Ibn Adam Al Kawthari's website/name?

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?263514-Abu-Mus-ab-s-Question-Thread
    "O you who believe! Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest you swerve, and if you distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted with all that you do." [An-Nisa 4:135]

    The Prophet said:

    "Whosoever leaves off obedience and separates from the Jamaa'ah and dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah. Whoever fights under the banner of the blind, becoming angry for 'asabiyyah (nationalism/tribalism/partisanship) or calling to 'asabiyyah, or assisting 'asabiyyah, then dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah."

    muslim

    Narrated 'Abdullah:

    The Prophet, said, "Abusing a Muslim is Fusuq (evil doing) and killing him is Kufr (disbelief)." sahih bukhari


    "Creeping upon you is the diseases of those people before you: envy and hatred. And hatred is the thing that shaves. I do not say it shaves the hair but it shaves the religion!

    By the One in whose Hand is my soul, you will not enter paradise until you believe, and you will not believe until you love one another. Certainly, let me inform you of that which may establish such things: spread the greetings and peace among yourselves."

    [Recorded by Imam Ahmad and Al-Tirmidhi]


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Mus'ab View Post
    I can assure you, i did not reach 37,000 posts by joking and posting "lol", though i do have my fair share of useless posts.

    That is his websites name, mine is darul ilm, and mufti faraz ibn adam's is darul fiqh, but all our iftaa sections are darul iftaa.
    lol ...

    I have a question.

    Basically I don't know if its a Hadith but I read it a long time ago. It's along the lines of a person had died and is in the grave. An angel comes to punish him and is stopped by a man (I think), this man is actually Surah al Mulk .. so they have a dispute and the angel and the man (Surah al Mulk) take the dispute to Allah (SWT) and Surah al Mulk gets the right to protect the inhabitant of the grave.

    I know it's not a lot to go on and my vague account won't help much but was wondering if you know what I'm talking about.

    1. Is this a Hadith (if you find it)?
    2. Source + grading.
    3. If there is any commentary on the Hadith.

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    If i was a separate entity then i could write a book about myself based on the amount of information this forum has about me.



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    I'd like to know the authenticity of this incident please. I have doubts about it because it seems like something which occurred in Makkah, whereas Hassaan radiyallahu 'anh only embraced Islam in Madinah? I also checked his biography in Siyaar A'laam an-Nubalaa and it made no mention of it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fais View Post
    lol ...

    I have a question.

    Basically I don't know if its a Hadith but I read it a long time ago. It's along the lines of a person had died and is in the grave. An angel comes to punish him and is stopped by a man (I think), this man is actually Surah al Mulk .. so they have a dispute and the angel and the man (Surah al Mulk) take the dispute to Allah (SWT) and Surah al Mulk gets the right to protect the inhabitant of the grave.

    I know it's not a lot to go on and my vague account won't help much but was wondering if you know what I'm talking about.

    1. Is this a Hadith (if you find it)?
    2. Source + grading.
    3. If there is any commentary on the Hadith.

    Jazak Allah Khair.
    It's not vague, it's actually quite famous.

    It's reported by imaam ibn `asaakir rahimahullaah in taareekh dimashq, and imaam ibn katheer rahimahullaah mentions it in tafseer ibn katheer, however he rejects the narration outright. And that is its grading, because it contains furaat ibn as-saa'ib who is rejected by the muhadditheen.

    The narration is: "A person from those who lived before you died, and he had nothing of the book of Allaah but Tabaarak, then when he was placed in his grave the angel came to him and the surah (i.e. mulk) jumped in his face, so he (the angel) said: "You are from the book of Allaah and i dislike causing you harm, and i do not have the ability to benefit or harm you, him or myself, but if this is what you intend then go to your Lord and intercede for him." Then it will go to the Lord and say: "O Lord, so-and-so had taken heed of me from Your book, and taught me and recited me, will You burn him in the fire and punish him while i am in his heart? If You are going to do that then remove me from Your book." Then He (Allaah) will say: "Are you upset?" It will reply: "It is only right that i am upset." Then He (Allaah) will say: "Go now, for I have given him to you as a gift, and have accepted your intercession for him." Then it will come and the angel will leave depressed for not having been able to do anything to him. Then it will come and place its mouth upon his mouth and say: "Welcome to this mouth, because it had recited me. And welcome to this heart, because it had contained me. And welcome to these feet, because they had stood in Salaah with me." And it will be his companion in the grave out of fear of him becoming lonely.

    He (the narrator) said: "When Rasoolullaah Sallallaahu `Alayhi Wa Sallam narrated this, there did not remain a child, adult, free person or slave but that they learnt it. And Rasoolullaah Sallallaahu `Alayhi Wa Sallam named it 'The Savior'."



    This narration weak as mentioned before, however it is authentically narrated that surah mulk protects a person in the grave, so we should all make an effort to recite it before going to sleep In-Shaa Allaah.

    Is any commentary required?



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    You're an interesting character Abu Mus'ab.

    I think I will have a personal database on you in particular (and not a mental one).

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Mus'ab View Post
    It's not vague, it's actually quite famous.

    It's reported by imaam ibn `asaakir rahimahullaah in taareekh dimashq, and imaam ibn katheer rahimahullaah mentions it in tafseer ibn katheer, however he rejects the narration outright. And that is its grading, because it contains furaat ibn as-saa'ib who is rejected by the muhadditheen.

    The narration is: "A person from those who lived before you died, and he had nothing of the book of Allaah but Tabaarak, then when he was placed in his grave the angel came to him and the surah (i.e. mulk) jumped in his face, so he (the angel) said: "You are from the book of Allaah and i dislike causing you harm, and i do not have the ability to benefit or harm you, him or myself, but if this is what you intend then go to your Lord and intercede for him." Then it will go to the Lord and say: "O Lord, so-and-so had taken heed of me from Your book, and taught me and recited me, will You burn him in the fire and punish him while i am in his heart? If You are going to do that then remove me from Your book." Then He (Allaah) will say: "Are you upset?" It will reply: "It is only right that i am upset." Then He (Allaah) will say: "Go now, for I have given him to you as a gift, and have accepted your intercession for him." Then it will come and the angel will leave depressed for not having been able to do anything to him. Then it will come and place its mouth upon his mouth and say: "Welcome to this mouth, because it had recited me. And welcome to this heart, because it had contained me. And welcome to these feet, because they had stood in Salaah with me." And it will be his companion in the grave out of fear of him becoming lonely.

    He (the narrator) said: "When Rasoolullaah Sallallaahu `Alayhi Wa Sallam narrated this, there did not remain a child, adult, free person or slave but that they learnt it. And Rasoolullaah Sallallaahu `Alayhi Wa Sallam named it 'The Savior'."



    This narration weak as mentioned before, however it is authentically narrated that surah mulk protects a person in the grave, so we should all make an effort to recite it before going to sleep In-Shaa Allaah.

    Is any commentary required?
    So it is reciting it before sleeping, not memorizing it that protects you from the grave?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Mus'ab View Post
    It's not vague, it's actually quite famous.

    It's reported by imaam ibn `asaakir rahimahullaah in taareekh dimashq, and imaam ibn katheer rahimahullaah mentions it in tafseer ibn katheer, however he rejects the narration outright. And that is its grading, because it contains furaat ibn as-saa'ib who is rejected by the muhadditheen.

    The narration is: "A person from those who lived before you died, and he had nothing of the book of Allaah but Tabaarak, then when he was placed in his grave the angel came to him and the surah (i.e. mulk) jumped in his face, so he (the angel) said: "You are from the book of Allaah and i dislike causing you harm, and i do not have the ability to benefit or harm you, him or myself, but if this is what you intend then go to your Lord and intercede for him." Then it will go to the Lord and say: "O Lord, so-and-so had taken heed of me from Your book, and taught me and recited me, will You burn him in the fire and punish him while i am in his heart? If You are going to do that then remove me from Your book." Then He (Allaah) will say: "Are you upset?" It will reply: "It is only right that i am upset." Then He (Allaah) will say: "Go now, for I have given him to you as a gift, and have accepted your intercession for him." Then it will come and the angel will leave depressed for not having been able to do anything to him. Then it will come and place its mouth upon his mouth and say: "Welcome to this mouth, because it had recited me. And welcome to this heart, because it had contained me. And welcome to these feet, because they had stood in Salaah with me." And it will be his companion in the grave out of fear of him becoming lonely.

    He (the narrator) said: "When Rasoolullaah Sallallaahu `Alayhi Wa Sallam narrated this, there did not remain a child, adult, free person or slave but that they learnt it. And Rasoolullaah Sallallaahu `Alayhi Wa Sallam named it 'The Savior'."



    This narration weak as mentioned before, however it is authentically narrated that surah mulk protects a person in the grave, so we should all make an effort to recite it before going to sleep In-Shaa Allaah.

    Is any commentary required?
    No, none is needed.

    That is the one I was talking about. That is an amazing narration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fais View Post
    No, none is needed.

    That is the one I was talking about. That is an amazing narration.
    However if we turn to the narration which is the words of hadhrat `Abdullaah ibn mas`ood radhiallaahu `anhu then you have the following:

    "A man died and the angels of punishment came to him and sat by his head, so it (his head) said: "You have no way unto him, he used to recite surah al-mulk, then they (the angels) will sit at his feet, and it (his feet) will say: "You have no way unto him, he used to stand in salaah with us reciting surah al-mulk." Then the angels will sit at his stomach, and it will say: "You have no way (unto him), he had contained in me surah al-mulk." Because of that it was named 'the protector'."

    This narration has no problems, its chain is fine taking it to hadhrat `abdullaah ibn mas`ood radhiallaahu `anhu.

    It is narrated by imaam at-tabaraani rahimahullaah in al-mu`jam al kabeer.

    There's another very similar narration also from hadhrat `abdullaah ibn mas`ood radhiallaahu `anhu, also reported by imaam at tabaraani rahimahullaah in al-mu`jam al kabeer, and its chain is also okay.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Mus'ab View Post
    However if we turn to the narration which is the words of hadhrat `Abdullaah ibn mas`ood radhiallaahu `anhu then you have the following:

    "A man died and the angels of punishment came to him and sat by his head, so it (his head) said: "You have no way unto him, he used to recite surah al-mulk, then they (the angels) will sit at his feet, and it (his feet) will say: "You have no way unto him, he used to stand in salaah with us reciting surah al-mulk." Then the angels will sit at his stomach, and it will say: "You have no way (unto him), he had contained in me surah al-mulk." Because of that it was named 'the protector'."

    This narration has no problems, its chain is fine taking it to hadhrat `abdullaah ibn mas`ood radhiallaahu `anhu.

    It is narrated by imaam at-tabaraani rahimahullaah in al-mu`jam al kabeer.

    There's another very similar narration also from hadhrat `abdullaah ibn mas`ood radhiallaahu `anhu, also reported by imaam at tabaraani rahimahullaah in al-mu`jam al kabeer, and its chain is also okay.
    Jazak Allah Khair.

    The previous narration that is weak yes? Not fabricated?

    I remembered "If You are going to do that then remove me from Your book." from the narration ... And I just thought it was an amazing yet audacious thing to say.

    That's why I'd been looking for it again .. but nothing had turned up.

    May Allah (SWT) reward you. Ameen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_middle_road View Post


    I'd like to know the authenticity of this incident please. I have doubts about it because it seems like something which occurred in Makkah, whereas Hassaan radiyallahu 'anh only embraced Islam in Madinah? I also checked his biography in Siyaar A'laam an-Nubalaa and it made no mention of it...


    I will have to research that story and get back to you In-Shaa Allaah.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Fais View Post
    Jazak Allah Khair.

    The previous narration that is weak yes? Not fabricated?

    I remembered "If You are going to do that then remove me from Your book." from the narration ... And I just thought it was an amazing yet audacious thing to say.

    That's why I'd been looking for it again .. but nothing had turned up.

    May Allah (SWT) reward you. Ameen.
    I only know it as being weak / very weak, there may be some muhadditheen who say it's fabricated but I do not know them.

    The only ones i do know that say it's fabricated is the salafis, and one of the signs they said of it being fabricated is that very statement, wallaahu a`lam.

    Then again this very narrator furaat, imaam ibn hibbaan rahimahullaah rejected him, and said it's not permissible to even narrate or write his narrations unless you are doing it just to impart it as news.

    So it's better to quote the narration of hadhrat `abdullaah ibn mas`ood radhiallaahu `anhu instead.



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    Quote Originally Posted by .Kid. View Post

    So it is reciting it before sleeping, not memorizing it that protects you from the grave?
    Imaam an-nasaaee rahimahullaah reports that hadhrat `abdullaah ibn mas`ood radhiallaahu `anhu said: "Whoever recites tabaarakalladhee biyadihil mulk every night Allaah `Azza Wa jall will protect him with it from the punishment of the grave..."

    And the narration is authentic.

    But as we can see from the other narrations, memorizing it does help, and reciting it in tahajjud also helps, so we should make an effort to do all In-Shaa Allaah.



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    Sorry Akhi this isn't a hadeeth but where is this story of abu yazeed and the pope from?

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    Wow. I'd like to add more....

    1) 'Let people rejoice in being Muslims and not run away from it'

    2) 'Do not overburden yourselves, lest you perish. People [before you] overburdened themselves and perished. Their remains are found in hermitages and monasteries' (Musnad of Abu Ya'la).

    3) This, a reaaallllllly good one :

    Rasulullah gave advice to Abu Dzar (r.a) :

    "Let your own faults prevent you from criticizing others and do not try to find fault with others, because [it could be that] you commit those faults yourself. It is enough to prove you guilty that you should find in others such faults as you yourself possess, though you may not be aware of them, and that you should find in others such misdeeds as you yourself commit.

    After this Rasulullah saw patted the chest of Abu Dzar ra with his loving hand and said : "O, Abu Dzar, there is no wisdom better than prudence, nor any piety better than refraining from the unlawful, nor any nobility better than polite manners"

    [Narrated by Ibn Hibban]


    4) Dunno the exact wording but more or less like this : when Allah's servant experienced a trial or tribulation, its metaphor was like a gold being plunged to the fire, so the fire would devour its impurities, and as a result a pure gold is produced.

    5) It is from HAdith Baihaqi. A woman came to Aisha's house and Rasulullah opened the door, then asked Aisha who is that. And Aisha said she's a professional singer from the tribe so-and-so. And tell if Rasulullah wants to listen to her or not. Rasulullah neither approved or forbid.

    And all the heavens go their way.... And only change is here to stay...

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    Mashallah brother good initiative.Allahu rabbi wah huwa hasbi.

    May Allah protect you and help you further.
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    Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

    : Abu Mus'ab


    Is this Hadith authentic? And when it says every morning it evening , is reciting it after fajr okay? Here's the Hadith :
    "I am pleased with Allah as my Lord, with Islam as my religion and with Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) as my Prophet."
    Radheetu billaahi Rabban, wa bil-'Islaami deenan, wa bi-Muhammadin (sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallama) Nabiyyan.
    "Allah has promised that anyone who says this 3 times every morning or evening will be pleased on the Day of Resurrection." [Ahmad & At-Tirmithi]



    - also, is the Hadith about saying allahuna ajirni minaa naar 7 times after Maghreb and fajr sahih?

    - lastly, there's a dua to make once you wake up, what is it?



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    : Abu Mus'ab


    Is this Hadith authentic? And when it says every morning it evening , is reciting it after fajr okay? Here's the Hadith :
    "I am pleased with Allah as my Lord, with Islam as my religion and with Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) as my Prophet."
    Radheetu billaahi Rabban, wa bil-'Islaami deenan, wa bi-Muhammadin (sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallama) Nabiyyan.
    "Allah has promised that anyone who says this 3 times every morning or evening will be pleased on the Day of Resurrection." [Ahmad & At-Tirmithi]



    - also, is the Hadith about saying allahuna ajirni minaa naar 7 times after Maghreb and fajr sahih?

    - lastly, there's a dua to make once you wake up, what is it?




    The hadith in bold I believe brother Abu Musab it is hasan.It has trustworthy chain of transmitters and mentioned by four Muhadith.
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    What a great topic - I'm glad something like this exists.

    Could you post the source of this hadith and who narrated it?

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    I heard a hadith about going to bed hungry.I wud like the complete hadith and if it is authentic or not


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    Quote Originally Posted by the_middle_road View Post


    I'd like to know the authenticity of this incident please. I have doubts about it because it seems like something which occurred in Makkah, whereas Hassaan radiyallahu 'anh only embraced Islam in Madinah? I also checked his biography in Siyaar A'laam an-Nubalaa and it made no mention of it...


    I searched for days for this incident, and i could not find a source for it other than modern day people mentioning it, but i could not find a single source for it.

    I even checked the poetry books in the hope of finding that poem which might refer to a history book, but still nothing, in fact i could not even find the poem anywhere in the books of poetry either.



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    Sorry Akhi this isn't a hadeeth but where is this story of abu yazeed and the pope from?

    Sufi stories for the most part have no chains to check their authenticity and are merely mentioned in books of sufi stories, and many of them are outright fabrications.

    This one too is one of those chainless ones.



    "The `Aalim knows who is a Jaahil, because he used to be a Jaahil before. But the Jaahil does not know who is an `Aalim, because he was never an `Aalim before."


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    Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

    Assalamu'alaikum, there is a hadeeth referenced to baihaqi with regards to a tree in jannah from which 2 springs eminate...if a person drinks from the first spring then every type of harm/filth exits and if he bathes in the other, he's hair will not be unkempt...

    What is the authenticity of that hadeeth, please?

    Mutarrif B. 'Abdillah: ''Oh Allaah, I seek forgiveness in you from that which I have repented and then returned back to, and I seek forgiveness in you from that which I rendered to you and then did not fulfil and I seek forgiveness in you from that which I alleged was for seeking your face but, my heart mixed with that which you know of me'' (حلية الأولياء)

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    MashAllah what a great thread, but just to note that as long as a hadith is not fabricated, then we can 'rush to spread them around' for hadiths are just for us to get a basic lesson out of them and not to derive rulings ourself [for that is the duty of scholars] and the weak one's for encouragement only

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhai1 View Post
    MashAllah what a great thread, but just to note that as long as a hadith is not fabricated, then we can 'rush to spread them around' for hadiths are just for us to get a basic lesson out of them and not to derive rulings ourself [for that is the duty of scholars] and the weak one's for encouragement only
    That is precisely why i made this thread, because a layperson doesn't know the first thing about hadeeth terminologies and what exactly is meant when a narration is said to be 'weak', so therefore he has no right to quote it and spread it around.

    Only an `aalim is allowed to do it because he is aware of its reality. It's not for every tom paul and harry.



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    Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

    but a laymen dont take any rulings from hadith brother but just a lesson of basic realities that is obvious to all; this regarding the sahih hadiths and the 'encouragement' from weak hadiths is effective on all too for again it is not an indepth meaning we are after but just a boost in faith, for example if there is a hadith that says reviving a sunnah one gets the reward of a hundred martyrs, then the encouragement of reviving sunnah is obvious in that!

    please see what the scholars say about weak hadiths and hadiths in general:

    http://spa.qibla.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=1818&CATE=91

    http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/nuh/studyh.htm

    in the Quran ALlah says that He tells us the stories Prophets in the Quran that we may boost our hearts with faith [11.120], thus even a laymen can read them and get this boost; it is the derivation of rulings that we leave to the experts

    there is a sahih hadith that quotes the Prophet [saw] saying 'narrate the stories of the Israliyat' and we all know that such stories cannot be proven to be sahih, thus their narration is so that we get a boost of imaan out of them and learn basic lessons

    Anyway bro this thread is not to debate thus it only leave me to say:



    ps; i might as well offer you some expert opinion on this since i'm a gonner after this :

    the Holy Qur’ân deals with two different types of subjects. One is concerned with the general statements about the simple realities, and it includes the historic events relating to the former prophets and their nations, the statement of Allâh’s bounties on mankind, the creation of the heavens and the earth, the cosmological signs of the divine power and wisdom, the pleasures of the Paradise and the torture of the Hell, and subjects of similar nature.

    The other type of subjects consists of the imperatives of Sharî’ah, the provisions of Islâmic law, the details of doctrinal issues, the wisdom of certain injunctions and other academic subjects.

    The first type of subject, which is termed in the Holy Qur’ân as Zikr (the lesson, the sermon, the advice) is, no doubt, so easy to understand that even an illiterate rustic can benefit from it without having recourse to anyone else. It is in this type of subjects that the Holy Qur’ân says:

    And surely We have made the Qur’ân easy for Zikr (getting a lesson) so is there anyone to get a lesson? (54:22)

    http://ccm-inc.org/oldsite/iqra/articles/authsun/chap2.html



    from the above it can be gleaned that any tom **** and Abdullah can glean the basic realities/encouragement from Quran, and by implication from hadith too

    and if anyone should remain in doubt about laymen benifiting from hadith:

    there are benefits the ordinary Muslim can expect from personally reading hadith, and benefits that he cannot, unless he is both trained and uses other literature, particularly the classical commentaries that explain the hadiths meanings and their relation to Islam as a whole.

    The benefits one can derive from reading al-Bukhari and Muslim are many: general knowledge of such fundamentals as the belief in Allah, the messengerhood of the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), the Last Day and so on; as well as the general moral prescriptions of Islam to do good, avoid evil, perform the prayer, fast Ramadan, and so forth. The hadith collections also contain many other interesting points, such as the great rewards for acts of worship like the midmorning prayer (duha), the night vigil prayer (tahajjud), fasting on Mondays and Thursdays, giving voluntary charity, and So on. Anyone who reads these and puts them into practice in his life has an enormous return for reading hadith, even more so if he aims at perfecting himself by attaining the noble character traits of the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) mentioned in hadith. Whoever learns and follows the prophetic example in these matters has triumphed in this world and the next.

    http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/nuh/studyh.htm


    and where do 'weak hadiths' fit into all of this/:

    According to the very words of Imam al-Nawawi, “The ulema have said, both the fuqaha, the hadith experts and others is that it is permitted, rather recommended to act in virtuous deeds, in acts of exhortation and warning [f. when you encourage something or warn against it]. It is permitted to act upon weak hadith as long as they are not fabricated”.

    And this acting on weak hadith is not an innovation, contrary to what the questioner asked about, because the texts of the Lawgiver and on His behalf, the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, have come with strong encouragement to increase in acts of obedience and to devote one’s time to that and have encouraged us to have fear, in certain texts and in others, to have hope. So whoever acts by a weak hadith in virtuous acts and the like has acted by the general guidance that is established in encouraging good works and virtuous deeds.

    All that can be said is that the particular hadith specified something of good work and the like. So if what is understood from this weak hadith goes against what is established by sound hadith, it is agreed that one doesn’t act upon it, and what is the overwhelming situation, in hadiths that are like this, is that it is in itself excessively weak or fabricated. Though if it is not going against the sound hadith then acting upon it doesn’t take one out from acting on the texts that encourage one to do good works.

    http://spa.qibla.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=3377&CATE=91

 

 

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