Which Madhab do you all follow for the Fiqh?

[AbdulRahman]

Salam everybody, quick survey of the users of the website for everyones information.

Thanks.

[Huja Usman]

shia is not a madhab. They are a deviant sect And May Allah swt guide them


Salafis follow the hanbali madhab.

[Peace]

I voted Shafi'i really only because that was the Mathhab of my father - but I kinda follow the opinion I think is best

[Brother_Daniel]

I follow Salafiyya and don't exclusively follow any one mahdhab, but respect all four Imams (may Allaah be pleased with them all).

[AbuMubarak]

i try to follow quran and sunnah, as best authenticated

[AbuMubarak]

this latest rash of obsession with madh'habs at ummah.com is rather interesting

it would make one think that following a madh'hab is fard for all of the muslims

funny thing, i dont see anywhere in quran and sunnah where following a madh'hab is a requirement nor even recommended

[mohabdul]

Best of the sources to the Quran and the Sunnah. For one, I try my best to stay away completely from the people of bid'ah in matter of the deen.

[GenN]

Hanafis rocking on this board looking at the polls

And huja salafis most closely resemble the hanbali madhab over the other 3 madhabs but they do NOT follow the hanabli madhab.


Not fard to follow a madhab Abu M but the safest way instead of in-correctly interpreting Quran and sunnah, or folowing interpretaions of modern scholars over ancient fiqh (of course we need modern scholars for modern day issues)

[AbdulRahman]

following madhab unless you are mujtahid is required, yes. Also, we should stay away from the bidahs, yes. Thank you for your replys but i am sure more people should vote as there are many members of ummahforums.

reason I put Shia madhab is they have there own fiqh but look like no shia here anyways so no problem

i follow hanafi madhab

[GenN]

Originally posted by AbuMubarak


funny thing, i dont see anywhere in quran and sunnah where following a madh'hab is a requirement nor even recommended

funny thing i don't see anywhere in the Quran and sunnah to refer to BUkhari or to refer to Muslim.

[Abdul-Curim]

Originally posted by GenN
funny thing i don't see anywhere in the Quran and sunnah to refer to BUkhari or to refer to Muslim.

whats your point , genn ?

[AbuMubarak]

he is just trying to win an argument

[GenN]

Originally posted by AbuMubarak
he is just trying to win an argument

Thankyou for judging others intentions again abu M. Any repect i had remainig for you i have now totally lost.

for your info im NOT trying to win any argument, i'm trying to make you think see and understand, becasue it is a common ranting of ignorant people who don't understadn what following Quran and sunnah means to go about shouting "why madhabs, we have Quran and Sunnah". After all the explaiing not just me but a fair few others have done to you people about the importance of following a madhab instead of ignorantly shouting "Quran and sunnah" and you still cannot see then all i can say is "Allah guides whom he wills."

if you think you are guided over not following a paticular madhab when the majotiry of the ummah, its scholars the ahle sunnah have done so then that is not just ignorance it is arrogance.

Currim think, and you will see my point. If you can't think its your loss.

[AbuMubarak]

sorry you have lost respect for me, nor do i believe you ever had any to start off with

but to ask such a silly question shows where your respect was

bukhari and muslim are collections of hadith, which are our source for the life of the prophet, how else would any muslim obey Allah and His Messenger without the collection of ahaadith

but you had to make that statement, i guess it was in relation to the question i asked about madh'habs, is if they are one in the same

so much for your respect, i wont lose any sleep over it

[GenN]

Originally posted by AbuMubarak
[B]

bukhari and muslim are collections of hadith, which are our source for the life of the prophet, how else would any muslim obey Allah and His Messenger without the collection of ahaadith

and now apply that to the madhabs. Why apply it to hadith but not to fiqh? For fiqh you say it wasnt in quran and sunnah, but for collections of hadith its a neccassity? I'm sorry, but they are both a neccassity. You can know all the hadith in the world but what is the use if you cant interpret them correctly and you come up with dodgy interpretaions. The 4 madhabs were there to stop all the dodgy interpreations but this century with people like you calling them uneccasry to follow we have salafis interpeting weird interpretaions, we have modernists coming out with dodgy interpretations, we have HT coming out with dogy interpretaions evreyone is basically putting himself in seat of schoalr and coming out with all sorts of funny interpreatiosn. In the past unity was achieved becasue the ulama codifeid everything into the 4 madhabs so no one can come out with a dogy interprertaion of Quran and sunnah, in the same way Bukhari and muslim codifeid the hadith so no one can come out and make up hadith.


But of course you just cant see that becasue your a salafi. You accept the calsifications of hadith becaseu salafis accept it but you reject classifciations of fiqh becasue salafis reject it. And that is the sad truth about you and salafis in general, and hence even within salafism the scores of different twisted interpretations of Quran and sunnah which are causing this faction of slafism to fight and argue over minor issues with that faction, let alone salafism as a whole argue with the ahle sunnah!

And you are wrong, i had a lot of repect for you at one point.

[AbdulRahman]

even scholar like Imam Muslim had madhab

[AbuZayd Al-Britaani]

ASA,

Quite right Akhi, as did Imam Tirmidhi, Imam al-Nasai, Imam al-Bayhaqi, Imam Bukhari, Iman Ibn Hajar, Imam al-Hakim.... and all the other top Imams of Hadith. All these Ulema adhered to one of the four Sunni schools of thought.

[outlandish]

I voted Hanafi,i stick to that mostly.
so does that mean others have to follow a madhab?why are u all being mean to others for that han,what gaurantee do u guys have what ur doing is right, who knows later in life would be very ironic if u found out something different,and all that arrogance u guys have for being madhabis or whatsoeve,or showing dislikefor others is gonna cause u more trouble than help. Those imams tried to their best,others to theirs,as long as its from Quran and sunnah what is u ppl's problem.

[AbuZayd Al-Britaani]

Nice pic

just to mention, I think you will find that more often than not those who adhere to the Madhabs and true Tasawwuf are on the receiving end and in constant defence of their practices as opposed to the other way around..... either way it is important for us to maintain our Adab in discussing these issues with each other

[jabaraltariq]

Assalamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu

I ask you and myself to fear Allah and not dispute about matters which should not be disputed about. If we differ regarding a matter, we should follow the way the salaf dealt with differences.

The scholars are the inheritors of the prophets and they should be given their due respect. I have great respect for the four Imams (may Allah have mercy on them). I also have great respect for the "salafi" scholars. They are much more learned than I am and they teach what they have learned to those who do not know, like myself. My Allah preserve our Ulama everywhere and protect them from the tyranny of the tyrants that rule the muslim lands today.

The school of that I normally follow for fiqh matters is the hanafi school of thought.

May Allah unite the ummah on the truth.

Wasalama

Please read the article below:

The Shaykh, SHAYKH SAALIH AL-FAWZAAN hafidhahullaah, was asked: Is it permissible for one who sticks to a particular madhhab in matters of worship, to turn away from it and stick to another madhhab whenever he wants? Or is it binding upon a Muslim to stick to just one madhhab until he dies? And is there a difference in how the Prayer should be performed between the four madhhabs or not? And what has been related from the Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam concerning how the Prayer should be prayed?


The Shaykh, hafidhahullaah, responded:


"The issue of sticking to a madhhab has in it some detail. If a person has the ability to know the ruling from its proof, and to deduce the ruling from its proof, then it is not permitted for him to cling to a madhhab. rather, it is upon him to take the ruling from the evidence - if he has the ability to do so. However, this is rare amongst the people, since this is a quality of the mujtahideen from the people of knowledge; those that have reaced the levels of ijtihaad. As for one who is not like that, then he cannot take the rulings directly from the evidences. And this is the predominant case amongst the people, especially in these latter times. So [in such a case] there is no harm in adopting one of the four madhhabs and making taqleed of one of them.


However, he should not make blind taqleed such that he takes all that is in the madhhab; whether it is correct or incorrect. Rather, it is upon him to take from the madhhab that which - in his view - does not clearly oppose the evidence. As for those views in the madhhab which clearly oppose the evidence, then it is not permissible for the Muslim to take it. Rather it is upon him to adopt what is established by the proof, even if it is in another madhhab. So his leaving the madhhab for another madhhab in order to follow the evidence is something good; this is a matter which is good - rather it is obligatory; since following the evidence is an obligation.


As for adopting one madhhab sometimes and another at other times, then this moving is from the angle of following one's desires and seeking concessions, and this is not permissible. Meaning, that whatever accords with one's whims and desires, from the sayings of the people of knowledge, is taken - even if it opposes the proof; and whatever opposes one's whims and desires is left - even if it has a proof. This is the following of whims and desires, and we seek refuge in Allaah [from that]. Thus, moving from one madhhab to another, due to following one's desires, or due to ease or seeking concession; then this is not permissible. As for moving from one madhhab to another due to following an evidence, or to flee from a saying that does not have a proof, or from an erroneous view - then this is a matter that is encouraged and sought from a Muslim. And Allaah knows best.


As for the issue concerning the differences between the four madhhabs in the Prayer, then the four madhhabs - and all praise is for Allaah - are in agreement about most of the rulings concerning the Prayer, in general. Their differences are in some of the details of the Prayer. From [such differences] are, for example, that [one of them] may consider something to be prescribed, whilst another may not consider it to be prescribed; one may consider something to be obligatory, whilst another may consider it to be recommended; and so on. So the differences are in the details of the Prayer. But as for the rulings of the Prayer in general, then there is no difference - and all praise is for Allaah ..."

[Lateafha]

Asalaamalaykum

A Muslim is what I call myself.

However, I subscribe to the Ahlu Sunnah wel Jamaa'ah school of thought = people of the Sunnah and consensus ... madhab of the Prophet (saw) as understood by the companions and the 1st three generations.

In other words I don't discriminate between the Scholars but judge their rulings in accordance to the evidence (from the Quraan and Sunnah) that they provide. In instances where there is a difference in opinion - I'd go for the majority opinion or the one that appeals to me the most

Quran and sunnah go hand in hand, but the problem is the differences that arise from their interpretations, that is why there are so many madhabs.

One can follow a madhab, but on issues where that madhab is incorrect (or has the weaker opinion), we must follow that which is most correct and Allah knows best.

So in essence, we actually follow all madhabs. For example on the issue of a husband just going missing, what is the correct ruling with respect to the marriage status of the wife? For how long must she wait? If I remember correctly for example the Maaliki school states for 84 years and the hanafi for 120 years (a lifetime)- or figures similar. Therefore, must a woman who follows these schools never re-marry?

Clearly, the correct opinion is otherwise and therefore one cannot always adhere to everything mentioned in the madhab they prescribe to. We must understand that the 'ulamaah’ were not prophets and they could of have made mistakes- but inshallah they will still get their ajar, but it is upon us to seek knowledge.

These madhabs I speak of are all those of the ahlu-sunnah-wel-jamaa'ah (there are 4 or actually even more) and does not include the 'Shia' 'N.B not imaam jafar) whom we differ upon with issues of Aqeedah and not on some small fiqh issues.

All the four Madhahabs were MUJTAHIDEEN, meaning they did their best to clarify for Muslims those things they were ignorant about using what ever hadith Daleel or "qiyaas"(Measured gues)they had with them. All of them are known to have said that if you see hadiith take the Hadith and leave my words.

[laurelandhardy]

Sunni

[pob]

I tend to follow the shafii school of thought, I like keeping myself open to stronger interpretations and will gladly take that them board if convinced.

Btw, there are 4 schools of thought.

Shia is split into 5 divisions of it's own and generally far from islam in many respects.

The salif follow one of the 4 schools of thought.

Quran and sunnah, you would be generating your own interpretations which can be dangerous especially if you don't have indepth detailed knowledge of islamic history. Although I expect most people who take this route would lead themselves to one of the 4.

The madhabs are like a guide, you can take one path and when your knowledgable enough decide whats best, if you hear a stronger hadith you should try to take that into your understanding and implementation.

[AbuMubarak]

Originally posted by GenN



But of course you just cant see that becasue your a salafi.

ever heard me say i was salafi?

ever heard me say i was anything but muslim?

[GenN]

Originally posted by AbuMubarak
ever heard me say i was salafi?

ever heard me say i was anything but muslim?

read back to the 1st tawasul thread you said "if this is Islam/muslim then wahabi i'll be."

[GenN]

for those of you who actaully belive salafis are one of the 4 scholls (most usually belive its hanbali) then goto www.htspub.com read some of the stuff ask question to the hanbali sheiks. It'll be a good starting point for your research, the lack of understanding of madhabs on this board is appaling - even from some of the madhabis. I'm not gonna get into any discussion trying to show you the importance of foloowng a mdhab or about the meaning of the imamas when they said "if you see a hadith then follow it that is my deen" cos you lot obviously don't know about looking at thing within context, instead taking its literal meaning so i advise you to goto http://www.albalagh.net and order the book "The Legal Status of Following a Madhab" by Mufti Taqi Usmani, it has all explanaitons, evidecne form Quran and sunnah and salaf and khalaf and completly destroys some of the non-sensical understanding of madhabs a lot of people around here have. There aer also other books there of intereset.

Like i said i aiont getting into any debate now, just read them books, and maybe visit the website above.

[ZawjatuRaafi]

POB I was looking at some websites and I ran across this and thought of you cause it has your avatar in it...

It is about mad cows and is really strange but anyhow take a look justthought i would share lol

http://www.shagrat.net/Portfolio/cows.swf

[outlandish]

Originally posted by Sunni
Nice pic

just to mention, I think you will find that more often than not those who adhere to the Madhabs and true Tasawwuf are on the receiving end and in constant defence of their practices as opposed to the other way around..... either way it is important for us to maintain our Adab in discussing these issues with each other

thanks for the picture

yes I do agree with what u said,it is important to maintain our adab always whenever discussing things insha allah

[Kaaju Barfi]

Islam under people who followed madhabs and tasawuf had its golden era. these wonderful people who built islam followed imaams who had better knowledge than them regarding deen, the stuffed their egos and didnt go around talking about "quran and sunnah" , as if the imaams were forbidding "quraan and sunnah" by making these sort of dangerous and deviant statements, these people are claiming that these mujtahid imaams who were well known for taqwa were on baatil and these people in modern times reached enlightenment

[GenN]

Abu M why can't i send you PM?

Anyways...Ahem.... I just wanna say i still have a lot of respect for yuo and i still love you for sake of Allah, its just that yesterday i got angry again when you said i'm just trying to win argument, becasue i wasnt even thinking anything along those lines, i just wanted to show you something about madhabs, a point which in my opion you do not understadn.

Anyway forgive me if i offended you, but please do not try to judge peoples intention especailly over net where things can easily be mis understood depending on the type of style/way of writing.

[marjan]

Hanafis are 'winning' because majority of Muslims on this site are South Asians.

[AbdulRahman]

its no competition!!

(but "big up" to 4 madhabs!!)

[sojourner]

As taken from 'The Evolution of Fiqh' (Abu Ameenah Bilal Phillips, p.120-4, Tawheed Publications, 1990)

'Ibn 'Abdul-Barr reported that Maalik once said, "Verily I am only a man. I err and am at times correct; so thoroughly investigate my opinions , then take whatever agrees with the Book and the Sunnah, and reject whatever contradicts them."

Shafi'i is also reported to have said: "The Muslims (of my time) were of a unanimous opinion that one who comes across an authentic Sunnah of Allah's messenger (SAW) is not allowed to disregard it in favour of someone else's opinion."

Ibn Qayyim reported that Imam Ahmad (ibn Hambal) said: "Do not blindly follow my rulings, those of Maalik, ash-Shafi'i, al-Awzaa'i or ath-Thawri. Take (your rulings) from whence they took theirs."

Ibn 'Abdul-Barr reported that Abu Hanifa said: "If a Hadeeth is found to be sahih, it is my madhab."


(p.129-30)
"In treating the historical development (and evolution) of the madhabs and the concurrent growth of fiqh into a full-fledged Islamic science, we have seen that the great Imams and founders of the madhabs generally adopted the stand that:

(a) madhabs singly or in their totality were not infallible
(b) the following of any one madhab was not obligatory for Muslims.

Yet the pervasive influence of taqleed has resulted, among other things, in a complete turnabout, so much so, that for centuries now the position taken by the generality of Muslims is that the four madhabs are divinely ordained and therefore infallible; the legal rulings of each of those madhabs are all sound and correct; everyone must follow one of the four madhabs; a Muslim should not change his or her madhab; and it is wrong to pick and choose rulings across madhabs. As corollary to these beliefs, it has been stated that anyone who dares openly to deny the infallibilty of all four madhabs or the obligation to follow one of these madhabs is considered and accursed innovator and apostate."


I thought that was interesting.

[AbdulRahman]

sounds like lots of lie mixed with some truths taken out of the context by somebody interested to discredit the madhabs.

nobody said madhab is infallible!

the statement taken from the mujtahid scholars were to their student who could do ijtihad themselves.

nobody siad anyone who did not follow madhab is apostate!

lies. you shoud throw your book in the bin.

[AbdulRahman]

The Statement “If the H.adîth is Authentic, that is my Madhhab”



One of the most misunderstood statements of Imâm al-Shâfi‘î is his famous phrase: “When the authenticity of the h.adîth is established, that is my madhhab.”

The Ulema of the School explained, contrary to the populist approaches of “Salafîs,” that this principle addresses the jurists who are capable of sifting the abrogating and sound h.adîths from the abrogated and unsound ones as well as extract the rulings from their collective evidence according to the principles of the Law and those of the Arabic language.


Al-Nawawî said:

What Imâm al-Shâfi‘î said does not mean that everyone who sees a s.ah.îh. h.adîth should say “This is the madhhab of al-Shâfi‘î,” applying the purely external or apparent meaning of his statement.

What he said most certainly applies only to such a person as has the rank of ijtihâd in the madhhab.

It is a condition for such a person that he be firmly convinced that either Imâm al-Shâfi‘î was unaware of this h.adîth or he was unaware of its authenticity.

And this is possible only after having researched all the books of al-Shâfi‘î and similar other books of the companions of al-Shâfi‘î, those who took knowledge from him and others similar to them.

This is indeed a difficult condition to fulfill.

Few are those who measure up to this standard in our times.

What we have explained has been made conditional because Imâm al-Shâfi‘î had abandoned acting purely on the external meaning of many h.adîths, which he declared and knew.

However, he established proofs for criticism of the h.adîth or its abrogation or specific circumstances or interpretation and so forth.

Shaykh Abû ‘Amr [Ibn al-S.alâh.] said: “It is no trivial matter to act according to the apparent meaning of what Imâm al-Shâfi‘î said.

For it is not permissible for every faqîh – let alone a layman (‘âmmî) – to act independently with what he takes to be a proof from the h.adîth…

Therefore, whoever among the Shâfi‘îs finds a h.adîth that contradicts his School must examine whether he is absolutely accomplished in all the disciplines of ijtihâd, or in that particular topic, or specific question.

[If he is,] then he has the right to apply it independently.

If he is not, but finds that contravening the h.adîth bears too heavily upon him – after having researched it and found no justification for contravening it – then he may apply it if another independent Imâm other than al-Shâfi‘î applies it.

This is a good excuse for him to leave the madhhab of his Imâm in such a case.”

[sojourner]

Originally posted by AbdulRahman
sounds like lots of lie mixed with some truths taken out of the context by somebody interested to discredit the madhabs.

nobody said madhab is infallible!

the statement taken from the mujtahid scholars were to their student who could do ijtihad themselves.

nobody siad anyone who did not follow madhab is apostate!

lies. you shoud throw your book in the bin.

I didn't say that anyone said the above things. I simply thought they were interesting points, and therefore posted them.

I think I'll keep my book thanks.

[AbdulRahman]

i know u dint say that but it is in your quote and is lies and rubbish. i did not say u saying these things. u said it is interesting so do u agree with it or u just posted it anyways?

[Umar ibn al-Khattab]

Why we are fighting here?

akhi, Abu and GenN please unite brother don't separate, don't have any grudge, we are here only for the sake of Allah(swt) nobody is getting any financial/social status/materialist gain, just think over that.

BE UNITE for the SAKE OF ALLAH (SWT) ALONE.

[seven]

the four schools of thought are not entirely the opinions of their respective imaams, as some people believe. when other ahadith came into light, they were taken into consideration by the students of the respective imaams and changed accordingly.

so when people use the argument that such and such ahadith did not reach the imam, therefore his opinion on the matter was incorrect, are correct in a sense, but when the ahadith reached their students, they had changed the 'school of thought' accordingly.

so now what we see as the hanafi, hanbali, shafi'i and makili fiqh, are not 100% the opinion of their respective imam, but the fiqh of their collective 'school of thought'

[AbdulRahman]

totally correct number seven - you are speaking truth.