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    Looking up at the sky during prayer

    Narrated Anas bin Malik (Radi-Allahu 'anhu):

    The Prophet (Sallallahu 'Alaihi Wa Sallam) said, "What is wrong with those people who look towards the sky during the prayer?" His talk grew stern
    while delivering this speech and he said, "They should stop (looking towards the sky during the prayer); otherwise their eye-sight would be
    taken away."

    Bukhari Vol. 1 : No. 717
    ......however, I tend to look up at the sky while making dua AFTER the Prayer. I tend to say my dua's, look up at the sky, then back to my palms, to then wipe them over my face.

    Am I wrong on doing this?
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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by Ibrahim70 View Post
    ......however, I tend to look up at the sky while making dua AFTER the Prayer. I tend to say my dua's, look up at the sky, then back to my palms, to then wipe them over my face.

    Am I wrong on doing this?
    Best not to do this, I would say.

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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

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    Best not to do this, I would say.
    Ok fair enough

    Well that was quick! Brother
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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

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    ......however, I tend to look up at the sky while making dua AFTER the Prayer. I tend to say my dua's, look up at the sky, then back to my palms, to then wipe them over my face.

    Am I wrong on doing this?
    I don't know the answer but if you say the reason WHY you do this, then perhaps it will be easier for someone to provide an answer.

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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

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    I don't know the answer but if you say the reason WHY you do this, then perhaps it will be easier for someone to provide an answer.
    The reason why I do that? Perhaps because as a born non-Muslim I was brought up to believe the God in up there on a cloud watching down upon us (Christians, love em ), and so with this in mind i tend to look up to where I believe Allah is, looking down upon me. Not on a cloud of course(!), but just above us looking down upon us.

    Now I think about it, im wrong arent i.....
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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

    I used to see a lot of people looking at the Ka'bah when in Salaah.......is this permissable?
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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by Ibrahim70 View Post
    The reason why I do that? Perhaps because as a born non-Muslim I was brought up to believe the God in up there on a cloud watching down upon us (Christians, love em ), and so with this in mind i tend to look up to where I believe Allah is, looking down upon me. Not on a cloud of course(!), but just above us looking down upon us.

    Now I think about it, im wrong arent i.....
    Yup, if you think he is physically and literrally up there than that could account to shirk as Allah is free from time and space.

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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Hassan View Post
    Yup, if you think he is physically and literrally up there than that could account to shirk as Allah is free from time and space.
    Good point, ok this spells the end of me looking up at the sky then

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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by Ibrahim70 View Post
    ......however, I tend to look up at the sky while making dua AFTER the Prayer. I tend to say my dua's, look up at the sky, then back to my palms, to then wipe them over my face.

    Am I wrong on doing this?
    Yeh but you're not looking up while praying salaah, you're doing it during the duaa, I think it is talking about when you do it while in salaah.
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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by x--x View Post
    Yeh but you're not looking up while praying salaah, you're doing it during the duaa, I think he is talking about when you do it while in salaah.
    Yes He (saw) was, but i was just wondering i this ruling also applied to duas as well....
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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by Ibrahim70 View Post
    Yes He (saw) was, but i was just wondering i this ruling also applied to duas as well....
    Ops sorry didn't read the OP properly didn't realise it was a hadith

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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer



    The Etiquette of Du'a

    "To abstain from raising the eyes towards the sky whilst making Duaa (Muslim)"

    Also, while in salaah, your eyes should be where you will prostrate, for the most part.

    Wallahu Alam.
    Call onto Allah, such that you are certain that He, al-Mujib wal-Kareem, will answer your call before you even lower your hands.
    وَقَالَ رَبُّكُمُ ادْعُونِي أَسْتَجِبْ لَكُمْ

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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by .mirror. View Post


    The Etiquette of Du'a

    "To abstain from raising the eyes towards the sky whilst making Duaa (Muslim)"
    a worthy read for us all
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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by Ibrahim70 View Post
    The reason why I do that? Perhaps because as a born non-Muslim I was brought up to believe the God in up there on a cloud watching down upon us (Christians, love em ), and so with this in mind i tend to look up to where I believe Allah is, looking down upon me. Not on a cloud of course(!), but just above us looking down upon us.

    Now I think about it, im wrong arent i.....
    lol i get you i had to break the habit of looking up too best to not do so though brother what i did was concentrate on my actions as well as the words of my prayer keeping in total submission best to keep your eyes down as a state of respect for The Almighty. looking down to the ground or down at the lap/hands is a sign of humbleness

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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by .mirror. View Post


    The Etiquette of Du'a

    "To abstain from raising the eyes towards the sky whilst making Duaa (Muslim)"

    Also, while in salaah, your eyes should be where you will prostrate, for the most part.

    Wallahu Alam.
    How does that tally in with the ayah.

    144. Verily! We have seen the turning of your (Muhammad's http://www.dar-us-salam.com/TheNoble...mages/saws.gif) face towards the heaven. Surely, We shall turn you to a Qiblah (prayer direction) that shall please you, so turn your face in the direction of Al-Masjid- al-Haram (at Makkah). And wheresoever you people are, turn your faces (in prayer) in that direction. Certainly, the people who were given the Scriptures (i.e. Jews and the Christians) know well that, that (your turning towards the direction of the Ka'bahat Makkah in prayers) is the truth from their Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do.

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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

    your not supposed to wipe your face after dua
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEByg...eature=related

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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by in_exile View Post
    How does that tally in with the ayah.

    144. Verily! We have seen the turning of your (Muhammad's http://www.dar-us-salam.com/TheNoble...mages/saws.gif) face towards the heaven. Surely, We shall turn you to a Qiblah (prayer direction) that shall please you, so turn your face in the direction of Al-Masjid- al-Haram (at Makkah). And wheresoever you people are, turn your faces (in prayer) in that direction. Certainly, the people who were given the Scriptures (i.e. Jews and the Christians) know well that, that (your turning towards the direction of the Ka'bahat Makkah in prayers) is the truth from their Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do.

    According to Maariful Qur'an, the turning of the face is the Prophet anxiously waiting for an angel to come with the injunction that Allah had make the Kabah the new Qiblah.

    Quote Originally Posted by faatima18 View Post
    your not supposed to wipe your face after dua
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEByg...eature=related
    There are hadiths that show that Rasulullah used to wipe his face. I believe there's a difference of opinion.
    Call onto Allah, such that you are certain that He, al-Mujib wal-Kareem, will answer your call before you even lower your hands.
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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by .mirror. View Post
    According to Maariful Qur'an, the turning of the face is the Prophet anxiously waiting for an angel to come with the injunction that Allah had make the Kabah the new Qiblah.



    There are hadiths that show that Rasulullah used to wipe his face. I believe there's a difference of opinion.
    According to tafseer Ibn katheer it was supplication aswell.

    http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?opt...sk=view&id=290

    Im not saying that your wrong I just don't trust a site that thinks its ok to ask Ali (ra) to help them pass there exams or that Allah (swt) didn't make your hands and tongue a sufficient means to ask him.
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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

    I don't think that's what Sunnipath is saying. They clearly said that all helps comes from Allah.

    The way I see it, it's like asking someone to make Dua'a on your behalf, but of course, the Dua'a is answered by Allah, not the one who you asked.

    Wallahu Alam.
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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

    what is up, that you are looking up?
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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by .mirror. View Post
    I don't think that's what Sunnipath is saying. They clearly said that all helps comes from Allah.

    The way I see it, it's like asking someone to make Dua'a on your behalf, but of course, the Dua'a is answered by Allah, not the one who you asked.

    Wallahu Alam.
    So you believe it's ok to say ya Ali ask Allah to help me pass my exams? Do they think he (ra) can hear them? What about saying oh Ali ask the prophet (saw) to ask Allah (swt) to make me pass my exams. Or maybe someone's to ashamed to ask Ali (ra), oh Abdul Qadir (rh) can you ask Ali (ra) to ask the prophet (saw) to ask Allah (swt).

    Anyway I digress, do you know any other fatwa on the duah and sky issue.
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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by .mirror. View Post
    I don't think that's what Sunnipath is saying. They clearly said that all helps comes from Allah.

    The way I see it, it's like asking someone to make Dua'a on your behalf, but of course, the Dua'a is answered by Allah, not the one who you asked.

    Wallahu Alam.
    ok i'm confused, so they are asking Ali to make dua on their behalf ?

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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

    Humility and looking at the place of prostration

    41- The worshipper must be humble in his prayer, and should avoid everything that may distract him from it, such as adornments and decorations. He should not pray where there is food that he wants to eat, or when he needs to urinate or defecate.

    42- Whilst he is standing, he should look towards the place where he will prostrate.

    43- He should not look to the right or the left, because looking here and there is a snatching away which the Shaytaan steals from the prayer of the slave.

    44- It is not permissible for him to look up at the sky.

    Description of the Prophet’s prayer
    (Not related to Dua'a but, it's about salaah)
    Call onto Allah, such that you are certain that He, al-Mujib wal-Kareem, will answer your call before you even lower your hands.
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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by faatima18 View Post
    ok i'm confused, so they are asking Ali to make dua on their behalf ?
    Well, the answers they gave does not mention any person in particular, dead or alive. It just explains it as such:

    This is the understanding upon which Muslims 'call upon other than Allah.' It is no different from taking medicine when sick, or going to a mechanic when your car is giving trouble: if you think that the medicine itself creates the healing, or that the mechanic is the one himself creates the fixing, then you have serious innovation in belief. The sound understanding is that Allah creates the healing when you use the medicine, and He creates the fixing when the mechanic does their job: we affirm these means, but also affirm that it is Allah who created both the means and the resultant effect.
    Call onto Allah, such that you are certain that He, al-Mujib wal-Kareem, will answer your call before you even lower your hands.
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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by .mirror. View Post
    Well, the answers they gave does not mention any person in particular, dead or alive. It just explains it as such:
    they are trying to justify calling upon other than allah by comparing it to taking medicine! asking someone to make dua for you is one thing but calling upon others to help you (even if it's with the believe that only Allah can help) is just wrong. why not just ask Allah yourself.
    if they are calling upon dead people it's even worse.

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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

    Sister, I don't think they are saying it's OK to call other than Allah, because they've clearly said all help is from Allah.

    What do you mean asking someone for Dua'a is "one thing"? Isn't it also calling upon others for help, if we look at it in a way?

    Allah knows best. That's how I understood it. I don't personally call upon any one who is dead for Dua'a or help.
    Call onto Allah, such that you are certain that He, al-Mujib wal-Kareem, will answer your call before you even lower your hands.
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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by .mirror. View Post
    Sister, I don't think they are saying it's OK to call other than Allah, because they've clearly said all help is from Allah.

    What do you mean asking someone for Dua'a is "one thing"? Isn't it also calling upon others for help, if we look at it in a way?

    Allah knows best. That's how I understood it. I don't personally call upon any one who is dead for Dua'a or help.
    what i mean is when you tell someone else to make dua to Allah for you maybe because they are in a better position to have the dua answered. but obviously this person would have to be alive.
    however i think it's better to make dua yourself.

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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

    Looking up can be considered boastful especially when you're supposed to be in submission.

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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by faatima18 View Post
    what i mean is when you tell someone else to make dua to Allah for you maybe because they are in a better position to have the dua answered. but obviously this person would have to be alive.
    however i think it's better to make dua yourself.
    People asked Prophet to make Dua'a for them. So nothing wrong with asking others to make Dua'a for you.

    Even saying and is making Dua'a.
    Call onto Allah, such that you are certain that He, al-Mujib wal-Kareem, will answer your call before you even lower your hands.
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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by .mirror. View Post


    The Etiquette of Du'a

    "To abstain from raising the eyes towards the sky whilst making Duaa (Muslim)"

    Also, while in salaah, your eyes should be where you will prostrate, for the most part.

    Wallahu Alam.
    Can you track that whole hadeeth?

    I think it was Miqdad ibn al-Aswad (ra) who said he saw the Prophet looking up to the sky when making du'aa

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    Re: Looking up at the sky during prayer

    There's a thread by Abu Musab for finding hadiths. Post there
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