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    Do you Believe in Allaah or the Stars?

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    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

    عَنْ زَيْدِ بْنِ خَالِدٍ الْجُهَنِيِّ، رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ قَالَ:
    "صَلَّى لَنَا رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ صَلَاةَ الصُّبْحِ بِالْحُدَيْبِيَةِ، عَلَى إِثْرِ سَمَاءٍ كَانَتْ مِنْ اللَّيْلَةِ، فَلَمَّا انْصَرَفَ النَّبِيُّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ أَقْبَلَ عَلَى النَّاسِ، فَقَالَ لَهُمْ: "هَلْ تَدْرُونَ مَاذَا قَالَ رَبُّكُمْ؟ قَالُوا: اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ أَعْلَمُ، قَالَ: أَصْبَحَ مِنْ عِبَادِي مُؤْمِنٌ بِي وَكَافِرٌ، فَأَمَّا مَنْ قَالَ: مُطِرْنَا بِفَضْلِ اللَّهِ وَرَحْمَتِهِ، فَذَلِكَ مُؤْمِنٌ بِي، كَافِرٌ بِالْكَوْكَبِ، وَأَمَّا مَنْ قَالَ: مُطِرْنَا بِنَوْءِ كَذَا وَكَذَا، فَذَلِكَ كَافِرٌ بِي، مُؤْمِنٌ بِالْكَوْكَبِ"

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    On the authority of Zayd ibn Khalid al-Juhaniyy (may Allaah be pleased with him), who said:

    The Messenger of Allaah (may the blessings and peace of Allaah be upon him) led the morning prayer for us at al-Hudaybiyah following rainfall during the night. When the Prophet (pbuh) finished, he faced the people and said to them: "Do you know what your Lord has said?" They said: "Allaah and his Messenger know best." He said: "'This morning one of my servants became a believer in Me and one a disbeliever. As for him who said: 'We have been given rain by virtue of Allaah and His mercy,' that one is a believer in Me, a disbeliever in the stars (1); and as for him who said: 'We have been given rain by such-and-such a star,' that one is a disbeliever in Me, a believer in the stars.'"

    (1) The pre-Islamic Arabs believed that rain was brought about by the movement of stars. This Hadith draws attention to the fact that whatever be the direct cause of such natural phenomena as rain, it is Allaah the Almighty who is the Disposer of all things.
    [Bukhari (also by Malik and an-Nasa'i).]



    This is my advice for those who listen or read the weather forecasts and believe in it whether tommorow will rain and Horoscopes star signs on the newspapers etc. Do not believe in it and reject it completely

    'The Hour will come, when people believe in the stars and reject al-Qadar (the Divine Decree of destiny)

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    Re: Do you Believe in Allaah or the Stars?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beblessed View Post
    why did you make a thread about salafi is not the correct way of salaf something like that, and why do you follow aqeedah tahawiyyah and not ibn tamiyyahs aqeedah yourself?
    I didn't claim to be self learned, follow from pious scholars of past and accuse others of blind following modern scholars. Which is so vague and direction less statement. I was pointing out your ridicules statement will go out the window when others claim the same thing but follow different scholars that have different position in Aqeedah than yourself.

    You won't answer anything in this thread because you contradict yourself and you cannot answer any question posed or asked.
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    Re: Do you Believe in Allaah or the Stars?

    Quite an astonishing thread. Just to add my 2p to it though;

    fore·cast (fôrkst, fr-)
    v. fore·cast or fore·cast·ed, fore·cast·ing, fore·casts
    v.tr.
    1. To estimate or calculate in advance, especially to predict (weather conditions) by analysis of meteorological data. See Synonyms at predict.
    2. To serve as an advance indication of; foreshadow: price increases that forecast inflation.
    v.intr.
    To calculate or estimate something in advance; predict the future.
    n.
    A prediction, as of coming events or conditions.

    And we wonder why the muslim ummah is in such a state :/

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    Re: Do you Believe in Allaah or the Stars?

    Quote Originally Posted by samin62 View Post
    how is seeing trends and making valid prediction and preparing for it equal to astrology?

    who is looking at the stars? They are seeing movement pattern of weather and telling you what is likely so you prepare your day like that. This is as extreme as the so called fiqh of driving where putting seatbelt on because the government said is Kufr because they don't rule by Sharia.
    brother if i punch you in the face and break your nose dont say my fist did it rather say it was qadr because its i dident know my fist would break your nose becuase that was part of the ghaib.

    even though that was the predictable outcome.
    And the (faithful) slaves of the Most Gracious (Allâh) are those who walk on the earth in humility and sedateness, and when the foolish address them (with bad words) they reply back with mild words of gentleness. (25:63)

    O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a trade that will save you from a painful torment? (10) That you believe in Allâh and His Messenger (Muhammad SAW),and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allâh with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (11) (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwellings in Adn (Edn) Paradise; that is indeed the great success. (12)

    JazakAllah khair for the duas but i would prefer duas for shahadah instead.

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    Re: Do you Believe in Allaah or the Stars?

    Quote Originally Posted by uncle umar View Post
    brother if i punch you in the face and break your nose dont say my fist did it rather say it was qadr because its i dident know my fist would break your nose becuase that was part of the ghaib.

    even though that was the predictable outcome.
    but its not raining....
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    Re: Do you Believe in Allaah or the Stars?

    Quote Originally Posted by imran1976 View Post
    The whole Muslim world minus salafis believes in Tawassul --- why you bringing this up?
    You mean the Ahlul Bidah Jamaah ?

    Anything which has no foundation in the Quran and Sunnah cannot be a part of a Muslim's aqeedah .

    Get your Burhan and Inshallah we shall discuss that .
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    Re: Do you Believe in Allaah or the Stars?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beblessed View Post
    the prophet is aiive in his grave and those who visit him in his grave is as though he visited during his life time. so if you dont believe in this hadith i cant do anything. and there is allready proof from the Quraan and sunnah it does not contridict to the Quraan or the sunnah. tho you forget at the end of the day we are Asking Allaah for help.so what do you know about the hadith on judgement day when people will go to Prophet Muhammed for help to intercede for them to Allaah Azawajal? is that also a form of shirk?
    I dont think any of us deny Allah's Rasul being alive in the Grave .You not only are known to attribute motives but also misquote others .The life of the Barzakh is not known to anyone of us and Al waseelah is a station in paradise and yes Allah's Rasul shall be granted permission to intercede for the Muslims on the day of Judgement , Inshallah .Get us proofs that Allah's Rasul said it is permitted to visit his grave and seek his intercession and if yes show us proofs from some of the well known Sahabas who have done that .
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    Re: Do you Believe in Allaah or the Stars?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beblessed View Post
    what are you saying? what fasiq regime are you talking about? pls dont put me in politics i have no idea on that.

    read my comment on 'truth about the taliban'
    If you donot have idea of politics then that's a serious problem as a Muslim has to show inclinination to study every subject under Islam including politics , economics , jurisprudence etc .

    You are always known to pick on sites like Islamqa which are critical of the fasiq regimes .

    Do you agree with People like Tahir ul Qadri who defend the actions of NATO and criticize the Mujahideen fighting them and claim that a single Khilafah is not fardh and democracy is part and parcel of Sunnah ?
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    Re: Do you Believe in Allaah or the Stars?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chicanery View Post
    Quite an astonishing thread. Just to add my 2p to it though;

    fore·cast (fôrkst, fr-)
    v. fore·cast or fore·cast·ed, fore·cast·ing, fore·casts
    v.tr.
    1. To estimate or calculate in advance, especially to predict (weather conditions) by analysis of meteorological data. See Synonyms at predict.
    2. To serve as an advance indication of; foreshadow: price increases that forecast inflation.
    v.intr.
    To calculate or estimate something in advance; predict the future.
    n.
    A prediction, as of coming events or conditions.

    And we wonder why the muslim ummah is in such a state :/
    Thankfully the comical nature/premise of this thread is not an issue for the ummah, but for certain individuals.

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    Re: Do you Believe in Allaah or the Stars?

    So its haraam to watch weather forecast on the TV...

    Right.

    This thread is an epic fail.
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    Re: Do you Believe in Allaah or the Stars?

    This thread was about the rain and that my belief is only Allaah knows when it will rain. so if this is strange let it be, im happy Allhmdulilah. neither did i say about the moon or the sun where i can see from my eyes. I cant be bothered since the whole thread has been diverted to tawasul, politic, punch on the face and all sorts.

    http://quran.com/search?q=rain&page=2
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    Re: Do you Believe in Allaah or the Stars?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beblessed View Post
    This thread was about the rain and that my belief is only Allaah knows when it will rain. so if this is strange let it be, im happy Allhmdulilah. neither did i say about the moon or the sun where i can see from my eyes. I cant be bothered since the whole thread has been diverted to tawasul, politic, punch on the face and all sorts.

    http://quran.com/search?q=rain&page=2
    Even though No Muslims disagreed that it is Only Allah ta'ala that knows where and when and how much it will rain, you by your personal interpretation claimed that Weather Forecasts are Haraam, because they know when and where it will Rain etc, or predict it it be likely ... or that this is like Fortune Telling ...
    failed repeatedly to prove this claim ...

    No Scholar will tell you that an Educated Guess, based on observations is Fortune Telling

    What the Furqan states is Certain Knowledge, Which belongs to Allah ta'ala Only ...

    I have no idea why you cannot tell the difference between a Guess and Certain Knowledge

    Epic Fail indeed,

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    Re: Do you Believe in Allaah or the Stars?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beblessed View Post
    This thread was about the rain and that my belief is only Allaah knows when it will rain. so if this is strange let it be, im happy Allhmdulilah. neither did i say about the moon or the sun where i can see from my eyes. I cant be bothered since the whole thread has been diverted to tawasul, politic, punch on the face and all sorts.

    http://quran.com/search?q=rain&page=2
    No one is claiming to know the future, but at the same time, with advanced weather monitoring stuff and satellites in outter space, weather forecasts are based on hard evidence.
    Of course it doesn't mean they are 100% accurate because weather can change suddennly....

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    Re: Do you Believe in Allaah or the Stars?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beblessed View Post
    my mistake to post this i thought i would just advice, anyway everyone goes their own way, so do NOT comment on this issue cus i wont reply to it, everyone has his own life and what he beliefs, and follows what is correct.
    Reading your stars i agree with, but the weather thing?? Isnt that because of technology, it doesnt mean we believe something else is causing it to rain
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