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    Lightbulb sabke bus ki bat nahi

    Zikr-e-khuda mein harr dum rahna,
    sabke bus ki baat nahi,

    Khaahish-e-nafs se bachtey rahna,
    sabke bus ki bat nahi,

    Ungli se ishaara chaand ki jaanib,
    saarey insaan kartey hain,

    Ungli se chaand ke tukrey karna,
    sabke bus ki bat nahi,

    Deen ki khaatir ghar ghar jaana,
    Taaif jaa kar pathar khaana,

    phir bhi duaayein detey rahna,
    sabke bus ki bat nahi,

    Ashaab-e-Rasool to sab ke sab,
    Makhlooq mein sab se akbar hai,

    Siddiq ka jaisa aashiq hona,
    sabke bus ki bat nahi,

    Duniya ke salaafi duniya bhar mein,
    ghashtey lagaatey phirtey hai,

    Farooq ka jaisa ghasht lagaana,
    sabke bus ki bat nahi,

    Usman-e-ghani ka hamsar hona,
    maal mein beyshak mumkin hai,

    Deen aur haya ka haamil hona,
    sabke bus ki bat nahi,

    Pyaare sahaaba deen ki khaatir,
    Jaaney Qurbaan kartey thay,

    Deen ki khaatir Jaan ka dena,
    sabke bus ki bat nahi,

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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    Originally posted by truepath
    Zikr-e-khuda mein harr dum rahna,
    sabke bus ki baat nahi,

    Khaahish-e-nafs se bachtey rahna,
    sabke bus ki bat nahi,

    Ungli se ishaara chaand ki jaanib,
    saarey insaan kartey hain,

    Ungli se chaand ke tukrey karna,
    sabke bus ki bat nahi,

    Deen ki khaatir ghar ghar jaana,
    Taaif jaa kar pathar khaana,

    phir bhi duaayein detey rahna,
    sabke bus ki bat nahi,

    Ashaab-e-Rasool to sab ke sab,
    Makhlooq mein sab se akbar hai,

    Siddiq ka jaisa aashiq hona,
    sabke bus ki bat nahi,

    Duniya ke salaafi duniya bhar mein,
    ghashtey lagaatey phirtey hai,

    Farooq ka jaisa ghasht lagaana,
    sabke bus ki bat nahi,

    Usman-e-ghani ka hamsar hona,
    maal mein beyshak mumkin hai,

    Deen aur haya ka haamil hona,
    sabke bus ki bat nahi,

    Pyaare sahaaba deen ki khaatir,
    Jaaney Qurbaan kartey thay,

    Deen ki khaatir Jaan ka dena,
    sabke bus ki bat nahi,

    can you do that in a language that we can all understand?

    because it all just looks like a bunch of codes to me
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    if its that easy to translate or write this kind of poetry in english then I give the chance to any one whos fluent in both these languages to try to come up with a translated english version of this poetry.

    remember I haven't right protected it this time P:
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    I was just joking lol sorry

    You go ahead and do your thang, I'm sure it's great.

    I know the meaning of 2 words though in the poem

    one is my fathers name & the other is duniya!
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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi



    Edit: Man! Bumped after 5yrs! lol :s
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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    Isn't this composed on the lines of some filmi gaana?

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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    Quote Originally Posted by ~TwinklingStar~ View Post
    Isn't this composed on the lines of some filmi gaana?
    ???!!!! *torture*

    where on earth did you get that from? and which filmy gaana?

    Its a nazm/naath.... dont think its composed by copyin lines of any filmy gaana whatsoever.

    And the lines, if you understand them completely, then they are facts bout the sahaba and sahaba's lives whose names are mentioned in this nazm.
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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    I'm 100% positive that this nazm has been made by copying some old filmy gaana. I don't remember which one, but the tune sounds familiar... must be something like "pyaar main mit kar paagal hona...sab ke bas ki baat nahin".

    Most of the Urdu naats & nazms these days are composed on the same tune as hindi film songs. They just change some of the words of hindi songs to make them Islamic. Ive got some Urdu naat CDs & I can safely say that atleast 25% of them have been sung in the same tune as hindi film songs.

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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    Assalamu Alaykum,

    The ruling is that if it reminds you of songs then you cannot listen to them, but for others, because they don't even know of the actual song the tune etc. has been taken from, they wouldn't know anyway and hence it's okay for them. And Allah Ta'ala knows best.

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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    lol leave ur assumptions somewhere... as far as this nazm is concerned its verrrrrrrry old... written ages ago and some youngster jus sang it around 10yrs ago or so....and it was recorded then and have been circulating in cds since then...

    and ur arguement like the song has 'sabke bas ki bat nahi'... doesnt really proves that nazm writer copied it from the song... it can also be argued back by saying the song writer might have copied the words from nazm... as thats what most singers, n filmy writers do :s
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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    Well...then maybe Akhtar saab , Gulzaar saab etc take their inspiration from naats & nazms to create their filmy gaana lyrics and their music directors & composers also compose it on the same tune as the nazms

    So much similarity can't be a coincidence, surely.

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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    Quote Originally Posted by The Deen View Post
    Assalamu Alaykum,

    The ruling is that if it reminds you of songs then you cannot listen to them, but for others, because they don't even know of the actual song the tune etc. has been taken from, they wouldn't know anyway and hence it's okay for them. And Allah Ta'ala knows best.

    Wassalam
    anything more to add twinklingstar?
    i very much doubt this nasheed is taken from any song. there are some nasheeds like these the words were made and recited by scholars. i.e ' muhammad ka roza' was made up by maulana saeed (?) i think and the words are truly sincere and heart rending. no shirk, no prancing, no film background, just simple beautiful words sung simply.
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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    meri urdu bohat kamzoor hai!

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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    to phir urdu main kyun baat kar rahey hai? haa my urdu is weak too, well im gujji but still my urdu should not be weak *scowl*
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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    me op ki baat ko haan ka raha hoi - us na kaha ke sab ki bas ki bath nahi hai!
    for a gujjar your angrazi seems spot on.

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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    wowww
    beautifull

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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeshanParvez View Post
    me op ki baat ko haan ka raha hoi - us na kaha ke sab ki bas ki bath nahi hai!
    for a gujjar your angrazi seems spot on.
    eh brittania main meri paidayish huwi awr sari zindagi yaha hi rahi, angrezi to meri pehli zubaan hain but if you meant urdu well gujjis can speak urdu too!
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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    Pretty good, cant understand it word by word but I know what its talking about

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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    nice mashaAllah
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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    Quote Originally Posted by ImperfectBeauty View Post
    wowww
    beautifull
    Quote Originally Posted by YekDin View Post
    Pretty good, cant understand it word by word but I know what its talking about
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    nice mashaAllah

    jazaakAllah khair

    may be someone whos well versed n fluet both in urdu n english shud attempt to translate it... for the benefit of non-urdu speakers
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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    truepath your ancient like sajid! its not a bad thing though!
    "Do they not see the birds above them, spreading out their wings and folding them in? None upholds them except the Most Gracious. Verily, He is the All-Seer of everything" ..Surah Mulk..

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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    Quote Originally Posted by truepath View Post
    .........I haven't right protected it this time P...........:
    I suppose you have also not taken an oath not to explain those verses to the forum members who request you for an explanation.

    Anyway let me attempt to translate it since you have openly permitted translation by forum members.


    1. Zikr-e-khuda mein harr dum rahna,
    sabke bus ki baat nahi,

    To be ever engrossed in remembrance of God,
    is not something that everyone could do,



    2. Khaahish-e-nafs se bachtey rahna,
    sabke bus ki bat nahi,

    To be safe from desires of the self
    is not something that everyone could do,



    3. Ungli se ishaara chaand ki jaanib,
    saarey insaan kartey hain,

    pointing at the moon with the finger,
    All the humans do,


    4. Ungli se chaand ke tukrey karna,
    sabke bus ki bat nahi,

    Spliting the moon to pieces,
    is not something that everyone could do
    ,

    In the stanzas 1 and 2 the poet is describing two characteristics of humans and perhaps trying to prove the Superiority of the Sahaba.

    Whereas in stanza 4 s/he is describing something that no human can do. It was Allah Subahanahu wa Ta'alaa who split the moon when the Prophet pointed his finger as per the guidance he recieved from Him.

    Thus I feel that second verse of Stanza 4. should be "kisi ke bus ki baat nahin." meaning "is something that no human can do".

    And if you feel that my translation is upto the mark I shall attempt to translate the remaining verses also.

    Last edited by aboosait; 30-01-09 at 05:25 PM.
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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    ^^ your translation is quite good mashaAllah...pls complete the rest
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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    [QUOTE=truepath;297982]

    I also take for granted that u apporve of my comment on the verse that would lead to shirk.


    5. Deen ki khaatir ghar ghar jaana,
    Taaif jaa kar pathar khaana,

    For the benefit of deen going door to door,
    getting stoned while visiting taaif,


    (Well I thin the first verse has reference to the Tableeg Jamat because as I know the Prophet Sallallahu alaihi wasallm did not o knocking at the doors but gathered people and spoke in public---
    but the second verse has reference to the Prophet)

    6. phir bhi duaayein detey rahna,
    sabke bus ki bat nahi,

    Yet praying for the oppressors,
    is not something that everyone could do,


    7. Ashaab-e-Rasool to sab ke sab,
    Makhlooq mein sab se akbar hai,

    The followers of the Prophet all,
    among the creation greatest are,


    8. Siddiq ka jaisa aashiq hona,
    sabke bus ki bat nahi,

    To be as affectionate as the Siddiq,
    is not what everyone could be,


    9. Duniya ke salaafi duniya bhar mein,
    ghashtey lagaatey phirtey hai,

    The traders all the world over,
    roaming to and fro,


    10. Farooq ka jaisa ghasht lagaana,
    sabke bus ki bat nahi,

    To roam for his subjects like the Farooq
    is not something everyone could do,


    11. Usman-e-ghani ka hamsar hona,
    maal mein beyshak mumkin hai,

    To equal the charitble Usmaan,
    in wealth indeed is possible,


    12. Deen aur haya ka haamil hona,
    sabke bus ki bat nahi,

    In deen and chastity to equal him,
    is not something everyone could,


    13. Pyaare sahaaba deen ki khaatir,
    Jaaney Qurbaan kartey thay,

    The beloved Sahaaba for the sake of deen.
    Their lives they used to sacrifice,


    14. Deen ki khaatir Jaan ka dena,
    sabke bus ki bat nahi,

    For deen to sacrifice their precious lives
    is not something everyone could do.

    You may edit if necessary.
    Last edited by aboosait; 30-01-09 at 06:20 PM.
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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    ^^ good effort. jazaakAllahu khair.
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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

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    ^^ good effort. jazaakAllahu khair.
    Thanks.
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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    Quote Originally Posted by ~TwinklingStar~ View Post
    Isn't this composed on the lines of some filmi gaana?
    Yeah Im sure I've heard it before but with different wording!

    Quote Originally Posted by truepath View Post
    ???!!!! *torture*

    where on earth did you get that from? and which filmy gaana?
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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    Quote Originally Posted by KeeKee View Post
    eh brittania main meri paidayish huwi awr sari zindagi yaha hi rahi, angrezi to meri pehli zubaan hain but if you meant urdu well gujjis can speak urdu too!
    I see. I thought you were DBCA like I am. But you might be ABCD.

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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    One day I too shall become ABCD!

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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeshanParvez View Post
    I see. I thought you were DBCA like I am. But you might be ABCD.

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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    Letters of the alphabet in reverse order. That's all. I promise........

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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    hmmm
    but what do they represent?
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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    Someone told me - and mind you this is someone - that they mean Desi born CA.

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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    ABCD means American Born CD. I will leave the translation of CD.

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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    And of CA for that matter.

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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeshanParvez View Post
    Someone told me - and mind you this is someone - that they mean Desi born CA.
    im not desi. and im a brit not american lol.
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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    Now I see why you said your Urdu is weak. Desi refers to anyone who is foreign. I think.

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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    Hey..I also found this naat in Sada -e- Hira . Seems like it was written by Maulana Siddique Saqib. There are many more lines in the actual version. The endng goes like:

    Kufr Jaisi Zulmat main
    Imaan bachaana mushkil hai
    Muslim hokar Hind main rehna
    Sab ke bas ki baat nahin

    Ishq -e- Nabi ki Daava to
    Aasan bahot hai Aye Saqib
    Farmaane Nabi par maa'il hona
    Sab ke bas ki baat nahin

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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeshanParvez View Post
    Now I see why you said your Urdu is weak. Desi refers to anyone who is foreign. I think.
    Not just "anyone"...they need to have Indian roots to be called "desi", no matter where they're settled.

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    Re: sabke bus ki bat nahi

    Quote Originally Posted by KeeKee View Post
    im not desi. and im a brit not american lol.

    lol You must be desi if not then you may be purdesi


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