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  • About half a litre

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  • About a litre

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  • about 2 litres

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  • about 3 litres

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  • more than 4 litres

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    How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    Salaam,

    What do you think is the right amount of water to use?

    56 - حدثنا أحمد بن منيع و علي بن حجر قالا حدثنا إسماعيل بن علية عن أبي ريحانة عن سفينة Y أن النبي صلى الله عليه و سلم كان يتوضأ بالمد ويغتسل بالصاع قال وفي الباب عن عائشة و جابر و أنس بن مالك قال أبو عيسى حديث سفينة حديث حسن صحيح و أبو ريحانة اسمه عبد الله بن مطر ] وهكذا رأى بعض أهل العلم الوضء بالمد والغسل بالصاع وقال الشافعي و أحمد و إسحق ليس معنى هذا الحديث على التوقيت أنه لا يجوز أكثر منه و لا أقل منه وهو قدر ما يكفي K صحيح


    Sayyidinah Safinah (RA) narrated that the Prophet (SAW) performed ablution with a
    mudd of water and the purifying bath with a sa’ of water.


    Jami'i at Tirmidhi

    I couldn't add two polls so say how much you think for Ghusl.
    Last edited by AbuIbraheem.; 24-11-10 at 11:31 AM.

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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?



    Just in case people don't know litres - the one in the middle is half a litre and I think the one of the far right is a litre

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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    Wow Cool Bottles

    Id Say Half A Liter I Dunno
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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    Again from Tirmidhi:


    43 - باب [ ما جاء في ] كراهية الإسراف في الوضوء بالماء
    Makruh to use more water in ablution (Israaf)
    ________________________________________
    57 - حدثنا محمد بن بشار حدثنا أبو داود الطيالسي حدثنا خارجة بن مصعب عن يونس بن عبيد عن الحسن عن عتى بن ضمرة السعدي عن أبي كعب Y عن النبي صلى الله عليه و سلم قال إن للوضوء شيطانا يقال له الولهان فاتقوا وسواس الماء قال وفي الباب عن عبد الله بن عمرو و عبد الله بن مغفل قال أبو عيسى حديث أبي كعب حديث غريب وليس إسناده بالقوى [ والصحيح ] عند أهل الحديث لأنا لا نعلم أحدا أسنده غير خارجة وقد روى هذا الحديث من غير وجه عن الحسن قوله و لا يصح في هذا الباب عن النبي صلى الله عليه و سلم شيء و خارجة ليس بالقوى عند أصحابنا وضعفه ابن المبارك K ضعيف جدا

    Sayyidina Ubayy ibn Ka'b(RA) narrated that the Prophet (SAW) said, "There is a devil for
    ablution called Walahan. So, beware of temptations caused about water."

    Israaf is when you spend on something that you need but more than is necessary.
    BTW - A mudd is about 544g (544ml)
    A sa’ is about 2176g (2176ml)

    This is an estimate, not accurate measurements.

    The Hadith relating to that can be found in Muslim and other books.

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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    I think we should take into account that the Prophet SAW and the sahabah used to make wudhu in like a pot so they kept using the same water over again, right? So the amount of water they used must have been less unlike the sinks we have now, where Allahu a3lam how much water goes down the drain.
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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    Quote Originally Posted by whisperofimaan View Post
    I think we should take into account that the Prophet SAW and the sahabah used to make wudhu in like a pot so they kept using the same water over again, right? So the amount of water they used must have been less unlike the sinks we have now, where Allahu a3lam how much water goes down the drain.
    Actually the Hanafis don't allow that - I don't think it is Sunnah to use the same used water.
    From my Fiqh lessons I understand that water that has been used in Wudu cannot be used again unless it is from a big amount of water (10 litres?)

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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    Not sure, but a lot, that's for sure.
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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    Quote Originally Posted by AbuHaneefah View Post
    Actually the Hanafis don't allow that - I don't think it is Sunnah to use the same used water.
    From my Fiqh lessons I understand that water that has been used in Wudu cannot be used again unless it is from a big amount of water (10 litres?)
    hmmm I don't understand why not. I meant like u have a bowl that has just been filled with water, that water can be used right? And what I learnt is that water is pure/clean and doesn't become unclean unless it's colour or smell has changed. But I think there's rules of fiqh regarding still and flowing water.
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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    I think I don't user 500ml for wudhu, and I don' tthink I use 2l for ghusal. For example, I think I use probably more than a liter just to rinse the soap of my hands when beginning wudhu, when it comes to the face, I probably use a liter just to wash the soap of my face and so on...

    I am probably over doing it...
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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    Quote Originally Posted by whisperofimaan View Post
    hmmm I don't understand why not. I meant like u have a bowl that has just been filled with water, that water can be used right? And what I learnt is that water is pure/clean and doesn't become unclean unless it's colour or smell has changed. But I think there's rules of fiqh regarding still and flowing water.
    You shouldn't re-use wudu water, even though it's still technically clean.
    So, say, if you're making wudu and some of it splashes on the person next to you, his wudu is valid, but that doesn't mean you can keep using that water.
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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    I can manage (after much practise lol) to do wudhu using one and a half of these:


    Although ideally would like to cut it down to one Water is wasted by us all the time, people leave it running when they perform wudhu, brush teeth, wash face, wash dishes...every drop that is being wasted is so precious to those who have nothing but diseased dirty water to drink and give to their thirsty children and babies

    We are so accustomed to clean water we don't even realise how much we waste. For example people wash their salad/ fruit; put a bowl underneath to collect the water that runs off it and use it in the garden? There are so many ways to save water!
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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    Quote Originally Posted by AbuHaneefah View Post
    Actually the Hanafis don't allow that - I don't think it is Sunnah to use the same used water.
    From my Fiqh lessons I understand that water that has been used in Wudu cannot be used again unless it is from a big amount of water (10 litres?)
    Same for Shafi's.

    And a large ammount of water for us (shafi's) is 216 litres ...
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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    That's large! How come people are posting and not voting then?

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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    other than the cost of water, why is it important not to waste water. in the uk all household water is recycled and sent back to the households. so it's difficult to waste.
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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    Quote Originally Posted by nami View Post
    other than the cost of water, why is it important not to waste water. in the uk all household water is recycled and sent back to the households. so it's difficult to waste.
    1. Using excessive amounts of water is wasteful. Wastefulness (israf) is blameworthy in wudu, as the sunna is to use a moderate amount of water. [`Ala' al-Din Abidin, al-Hadiyya al-`Ala'iyya]

    Sunan Ibn Majah, Vol 1, Pg No: 34, there is another Hadith:

    Translation: It has been narrated on the authority of Hadhrat Abdullah bin 'Umar (May Allah be well pleased with both of them), that the Holy Prophet (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) passed by a person performing wudu. He (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) said: Do not waste (water), do not use more water than you need it.

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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    I fill in a pot...maybe about a litre...because I remember doing Wudhu in Muzdalifa with a 500 ml bottle of water and it didn't work so I'd say 1 litre for me.
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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    I dunno how much I use as I do it under the tap. Obviously if I had to do it from a bottle, I'd say the 1 litre would be enough I think.

    Actually I'm gonna try and estimate how much I use next time I do wudu.

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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    in reality you only need very little water. try this experiment.

    in your hand, let about 5 drops of water drop into it. then wipe it on your arm. do that 3 times as per the sunnah.

    your arm will be wet. that same rule applies for the face, feet ect ect. you actually need very little water because water has alot of mass, density and takes up a 3 dimensional space. so 5 drops of water is actually enough volume to cover the area of your arm or foot or face ect ect.
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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    wiping and washing are two different things. for wudhu to be valid the limbs that need to be washed, need to be washed, not wiped. washing is the flowing of water over the limb with atleast two drops flowing off.
    Rajab is a month of cultivation, Shaban is month of irrigating the fields, and the month of Ramadhan is a month of reaping and harvesting.

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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    well i think very little is required to wash if you only do the obligatory parts of wudhu you might need more if you want to sunnah acts

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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    Quote Originally Posted by hamza89 View Post
    well i think very little is required to wash if you only do the obligatory parts of wudhu you might need more if you want to sunnah acts
    our shaykh said that the Prophet (saw) used to preform a full Sunnah Wudu with around one Mudd

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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    Quote Originally Posted by nami View Post
    I think I don't user 500ml for wudhu, and I don' tthink I use 2l for ghusal. For example, I think I use probably more than a liter just to rinse the soap of my hands when beginning wudhu, when it comes to the face, I probably use a liter just to wash the soap of my face and so on...

    I am probably over doing it...
    sister you don't need to use soap when making wdhu, just plain water...
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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    Quote Originally Posted by AbuHaneefah View Post
    our shaykh said that the Prophet (saw) used to preform a full Sunnah Wudu with around one Mudd
    I've seen it done in Mauritania they use so little water yet their limbs are dripping . mashalah

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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    Quote Originally Posted by whisperofimaan View Post
    hmmm I don't understand why not. I meant like u have a bowl that has just been filled with water, that water can be used right? And what I learnt is that water is pure/clean and doesn't become unclean unless it's colour or smell has changed. But I think there's rules of fiqh regarding still and flowing water.
    i remember i read tht the prophet saws was drinking water if it remained after making wdhu so i supposed it was the water left not used; please sum1 find the hadith, i read a lot but am bad at giving the sources, sorry

    @op, i do wdhu the sunnah way, i.e. 3 times the parts etc. and am sure i use much more, it goes into the sink so dunno the amount but a mud seems so little..
    Last edited by hayatto; 24-11-10 at 08:01 PM.
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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medievalist View Post
    wiping and washing are two different things. for wudhu to be valid the limbs that need to be washed, need to be washed, not wiped. washing is the flowing of water over the limb with atleast two drops flowing off.
    hmmm, yes i see but i thought wiping was also part of the sunnah of wudu.

    i will have to check ma book.
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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    Quote Originally Posted by .hayat. View Post
    sister you don't need to use soap when making wdhu, just plain water...
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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    Quote Originally Posted by uncle umar View Post
    hmmm, yes i see but i thought wiping was also part of the sunnah of wudu.

    i will have to check ma book.
    rubbing the limbs whilst washing IS a sunnah of wudhu. but the obligation is washing, with the exception of the head.
    Rajab is a month of cultivation, Shaban is month of irrigating the fields, and the month of Ramadhan is a month of reaping and harvesting.

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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    Extravagance is to use water without any benefit, like washing the parts more than three times. Ibn Shu’aib’s hadith, quoted earlier. ‘Abdullah ibn Mughaffal narrated that he heard the Prophet say, “There will be people from my nation who will transgress in making supplications and in purifying themselves.” (Related by Ahmad, Abu Dawud and an-Nasa’i.)

    Says al-Bukhari, “The scholars do not like one to use water beyond what the Prophet, upon whom be peace, used for ablution

    subhan'Allah, people will transgress whilst making wudhu, in sha Allah we must all try our best not to waste water and to fight the waswasa of the shayateen (bismillah) who sometimes make us think that we have not performed our wudu correctly, when in actual fact we have and we are just wasting water
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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    Quote Originally Posted by uncle umar View Post
    hmmm, yes i see but i thought wiping was also part of the sunnah of wudu.

    i will have to check ma book.
    You pour some water on the limbs and then rub to make sure the water covers the part that needs to be washed.
    The water is only considered 'used' when it falls from that limb, as the brother stated the water has to flow (some drops) over the limb.
    This is the Hanafi Opinion, I can't speak for other Madhahib.

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    Lightbulb Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    I do an experiment on WUDU for usuage of water.

    I invited 10 peoples to participated in it and i found results below:
    2.7 Litres
    3.5
    3.7
    2.5
    4
    3
    3.25
    2.9
    3
    3.5

    The Mean is 3.2 Liters/Person, Jazak Allah

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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    to waste water was frowned upon by the Prophet saw


    see there are people who have said ''a lot'' this is wrong

    Once the Messenger of Allah saw Sa’d bin Abi Waqqas, one of the Companions, making wudu by pouring a lot of water and said to him:
    Why do you waste so much water?
    Sa’d asked in surprise, Is wasting in question in making wudu, O Messenger of Allah?

    Thereupon, the Messenger of Allah said to Sa’d:

    Yes, even when you make wudu by a river, wasting is in question if you use too much water...” (Ibn Majah)

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    someone on here uses a cup mashaAllah

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    my husband is always flooding the washroom
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    Quote Originally Posted by nousername View Post
    my husband is always flooding the washroom
    looool

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    Quote Originally Posted by nousername View Post
    my husband is always flooding the washroom
    lol some ppls answer to this problem i have noticed, is not to make less mess and stop splashing water everywhere, but to make the bathroom look like the side of a swimming pool, complete with rubbber mat and a pair of "public" flipflops so everyone can just don said flipflops and attempt to make it through the bathroom withoutfalling into large puddles.
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    The Prophet said:

    "Whosoever leaves off obedience and separates from the Jamaa'ah and dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah. Whoever fights under the banner of the blind, becoming angry for 'asabiyyah (nationalism/tribalism/partisanship) or calling to 'asabiyyah, or assisting 'asabiyyah, then dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah."

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    The Prophet, said, "Abusing a Muslim is Fusuq (evil doing) and killing him is Kufr (disbelief)." sahih bukhari


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    Quote Originally Posted by *asiya* View Post
    lol some ppls answer to this problem i have noticed, is not to make less mess and stop splashing water everywhere, but to make the bathroom look like the side of a swimming pool, complete with rubbber mat and a pair of "public" flipflops so everyone can just don said flipflops and attempt to make it through the bathroom withoutfalling into large puddles.
    looool sounds like my bathroom after im done washing up my husband always complains saying i make the biggest water mess

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    Quote Originally Posted by nousername View Post
    my husband is always flooding the washroom
    lol

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    Re: How much water should we use for Wudu / Ghusl?

    Quote Originally Posted by AbuIbraheem. View Post
    Salaam,

    What do you think is the right amount of water to use?

    56 - حدثنا أحمد بن منيع و علي بن حجر قالا حدثنا إسماعيل بن علية عن أبي ريحانة عن سفينة Y أن النبي صلى الله عليه و سلم كان يتوضأ بالمد ويغتسل بالصاع قال وفي الباب عن عائشة و جابر و أنس بن مالك قال أبو عيسى حديث سفينة حديث حسن صحيح و أبو ريحانة اسمه عبد الله بن مطر ] وهكذا رأى بعض أهل العلم الوضء بالمد والغسل بالصاع وقال الشافعي و أحمد و إسحق ليس معنى هذا الحديث على التوقيت أنه لا يجوز أكثر منه و لا أقل منه وهو قدر ما يكفي K صحيح


    Sayyidinah Safinah (RA) narrated that the Prophet (SAW) performed ablution with a
    mudd of water and the purifying bath with a sa’ of water.


    Jami'i at Tirmidhi

    I couldn't add two polls so say how much you think for Ghusl.
    One medium sized bucket full of water for my ghusl and one medium sized mug full of water is enough for ablution .


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