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    Mullah Omar warns US of war

    ON AFGHNISTAN-PAKISTAN BORDER — The former Taleban ruler of Afghanistan Mullah Muhammad Omar has warned that his war with the United States has only started and its flames would engulf the White House.

    In an interview with Asharq Al-Awsat, a sister publication of Arab News, Omar also said that Osama Bin Laden is alive. Referring to the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and Washington, he said the “great actions” were significant historical events, which achieved their ends. These will be repeated if the United States does not remove their causes, Omar said. The Taleban chief also had a message for the Palestinians: continue the struggle. This was Omar’s first interview with a journalist for over two years. This reporter met Omar’s special information adviser after an appointment. The reporter was asked to hand over a questionnaire. This was translated into Pashto and taken to Omar. His answers were translated back into Arabic and handed over to the reporter. The former Taleban chief said his organization did not believe the war had ended in Afghanistan, or in Palestine or in any other Muslim country for that matter. “As for Afghanistan, I can say that the war has just started, its fires have been kindled. That fire will reach the White House because it is the seat of all injustice and oppression and where they launched a war against Islam and Muslims without any legitimate reason....When the killing of the oppressed people increased in number we decided to withdraw from the land and start the phase of guerrilla war in the mountains so that the lives of people and the poor Mujahedeen may be spared,” he said. Omar said those who carried out the attacks in the United States had a clear objective. “What is important for the US now is to find out why they did that. America should remove the cause that made them do it.”

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    Omar said those who carried out the attacks in the United States had a clear objective. “What is important for the US now is to find out why they did that. America should remove the cause that made them do it.”
    No, the why is irrelevant and I believe the process of removing them, rather than their beef which is also irrelevant, has been going rather nicely for quite some time now.
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    Cruiser said,

    No, the why is irrelevant

    Typical Amerikkkan response. Never mind the phrase, "prevention is better than cure."

    Remove the cause of Muslim dislike of the US and you'll instantly remove the threat. The 'why' is extremely relevant, especically when you consider it's the main reason behind the attack.

    Amerikkkans don't want to consider the 'why' only because they know it's going to come back and bite them on the a**. The sooner these Amerikkkans wake out of their media-induced slumber, the better.

    Then Cruiser spouted,

    and I believe the process of removing them, rather than their beef which is also irrelevant, has been going rather nicely for quite some time now.

    Yeah, it's been going all fine and dandy hasn't it? 4 Canadian soliders killed, 5,000+ civilians murdered yet Osama and Mullah Omar are still around :-)

    Meanwhile, the US campaign against Islam has been stirring up more anti-US resentment, when that blows up, you can be guaranteed the Amerikkkans will not re-evaluat their attitude.
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    I'm terrified. Yeah... that's it... terrified.

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    Well maybe you should be.

    Wouldn't want another instance of Sep 11 now would we?
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    Originally posted by caliph

    the US campaign against Islam .
    The campaign is against terrorists. If the terrorists happen to be Muslim, so be it. But your all-emcompassing statement is inherently false, and you are well aware of this fact. It's just inserted wherever possible to perpetuate this notion, which in reality is a fantasy conjured up to inflame. Good job.

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    That's what you would like people to believe, isn't it?

    But we all really now what the real agenda is. Not everyone is as stupid and naive as Amerikkkans.
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    Well done Caliph, and we certainly know that no one is as brilliant, introspective and...oh yes, ethnocentric as you. Please do keep pontificating ..but yell louder, your voice is growing dim as you sink deeper into the hole you're digging.
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    Now there you go generalizing again. It's just that Americans don't look at the world through black glasses, seeing the worst and continually blaming everyone else for their problems. Others...well....

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    Originally posted by caliph
    Well maybe you should be.

    Wouldn't want another instance of Sep 11 now would we?
    It all depends... I can think of a few Middle East targets that might qualify... after all, some here, like arabianknight, actually tell us that they enjoyed the slaughter of those innocents.

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    The difference is that when you murder a Muslim, he or she is considered a martyr. You're giving us the pass into Heaven.

    But when the Kufr like you are killed, you're going on the elevator marked 'down' :-)

    We all know that Amerikkkans postively drool at the prospect of murdering Muslims, I know that nothing get's your motor running better than the prospect of shooting little Muslim children but in the long run, we're still the winners.

    That's gotta hurt.
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    Originally posted by caliph
    The difference is that when you murder a Muslim, he or she is considered a martyr. You're giving us the pass into Heaven.

    But when the Kufr like you are killed, you're going on the elevator marked 'down' :-)

    We all know that Amerikkkans postively drool at the prospect of murdering Muslims, I know that nothing get's your motor running better than the prospect of shooting little Muslim children but in the long run, we're still the winners.

    That's gotta hurt.
    So... if you're so thrilled about your outcome... then why do you so incessantly whine about the methods? You all seek Heaven. The US military is there to start you on the trip.

    So what's the problem?

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    Nothing, except the fact that the Amerikkkans continue to try and get the moral high ground.

    Look, if only you would admit to your real objective, we could all get on better.

    About the method thing .. why do you whine about Palestinian military operations carried out in Israel? It's only about the outcome as you said.
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    The "quite nicely" reference is the mopping up of the Taliban and A-Q. Israel and Palestine is another matter, but if you think bombing Us civillians is the proper way to make a point I suggest you keep watching the Palestinian death spiral fueled by the same strategy. It doesn't work, and it will only get worse until the violence ceases..on both sides. Isn't it apparent to all of us that innocent people are being killed and it won't stop until hostilities cease ?
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    What's this? An attempt at reconcilliation? You aint fooling anyone Uncle Sam.

    First get out of the Middle East and stop interfering in everyone elses business and then we'll talk.


    Maybe.
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    Originally posted by caliph
    Nothing, except the fact that the Amerikkkans continue to try and get the moral high ground.

    Look, if only you would admit to your real objective, we could all get on better.

    About the method thing .. why do you whine about Palestinian military operations carried out in Israel? It's only about the outcome as you said.
    If Heaven is your goal, why should you remotely care what the Americans do? People in Heaven are far above things like that, right?

    I'm not "whining" about the suicide murderers. I'm urging Israel to help more of you to arrive at your ultimate goal!

    Yet poster after poster of your ilk snivels, and cries, and moans about what Israeli forces do in Palestine... or Americans in Afghanistan.

    If you all want Heaven, then that can be arranged. And I would think that you people wouldn't be in the least concerned about how, or when, or under what circumstances, the trip is made.

    Curious.

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    Originally posted by caliph
    What's this? An attempt at reconcilliation? You aint fooling anyone Uncle Sam.

    First get out of the Middle East and stop interfering in everyone elses business and then we'll talk.


    Maybe.
    Tsk, tsk.

    1. Find dictionary.

    2. Look up "super power."

    3. Get over it.

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    Caliph ,
    You stated "We all know that Amerikkkans postively drool at the prospect of murdering Muslims, I know that nothing get's your motor running better than the prospect of shooting little Muslim children but in the long run, we're still the winners. "

    Please, what is this. We have millions of Muslims amongst us - neighbors, shops, stores, mosques, students. Americans may be ignorant of Islam - but they want to live in peace with Muslims.

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    Originally posted by caliph
    Well maybe you should be.

    Wouldn't want another instance of Sep 11 now would we?

    wouldnt want another Afghanistan where you claimed your fame either now would we Caliph ha roflmao
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    Yeah, it's been going all fine and dandy hasn't it? 4 Canadian soliders killed, 5,000+ civilians murdered yet Osama and Mullah Omar are still around :-)
    But in the process of a mere 8 months, the Taliban and Al-Qaida military forces have been broken and weakened tremendously. And if you want evidence, the Northern Alliance has taken Mazar-i-Sharif, Kabul (the Capital of Afghanistan) and Kandahar (stronghold of the Taliban).
    The Taliban's control of 75%+ of the country has been reduced to pockets of areas that are being bombed.
    And Osama's life has been taken if you ask me. We consistantly here him communicate to his allies, very distressed, and then all links are lost.
    Have you seen a Daisy Cutter? The explosions are enormous. I doubt he could be in a cave for that long with all those Daisy Cutters coming down...

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    the arrogance and the seemless dumb mindedness of the americans on this discussion amaze me...jus becuase a 'couple of thousand americans'[sori to sound as if i dont give a sh*t but i do really] died on sept 11 th america has a chilli pepperred a$s and wages a so called war on terriosm.... i wihs too america eud quit tryin to use the moral high ground and think itself a beacom of freedom and justice for all..if that was the case...where was america and its so called war on terriosm when 8,000 muslims of bosnia in a town called sbrenica were massacred in one night by ruthless serb militia? its true america looks out only for its own interests so all u americans [witht the exception of a few good ones on this board] shud stop ur constant bloated ethical arguments becuase america even accordin to the UN [which usa seems to readliy ignore ] hAS abused more human rights then amother other nation.fact.
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    Originally posted by kaleem26
    the arrogance and the seemless dumb mindedness of the americans on this discussion amaze me...jus becuase a 'couple of thousand americans'[sori to sound as if i dont give a sh*t but i do really] died on sept 11 th america has a chilli pepperred a$s and wages a so called war on terriosm.... i wihs too america eud quit tryin to use the moral high ground and think itself a beacom of freedom and justice for all..if that was the case...where was america and its so called war on terriosm when 8,000 muslims of bosnia in a town called sbrenica were massacred in one night by ruthless serb militia? its true america looks out only for its own interests so all u americans [witht the exception of a few good ones on this board] shud stop ur constant bloated ethical arguments becuase america even accordin to the UN [which usa seems to readliy ignore ] hAS abused more human rights then amother other nation.fact.
    The stupidity and ignorance of the non-Americans in this discussion amazes me. Just because a couple of thousand Arabs have been killed by Israelis, and 50 or 100,000 more by Americans, the non-Americans have a chilli pepperred a$s and while losing a so called war on terrorism.... I wish the non-Americans would stop being whiney little victims since America IS the beacon of Freedom and Justice for all, concepts unheard of in the Arab world. If the non-Americans here had a clue, they'd realize that the only thing that ended the slaughter of Muslims in the Yugoslavian area was American firepower and blood, Makes no difference to the non-Americans that those were Islamic butts we saved, and whining about the 8000 Muslims allegedly killed in one night (non-Americans here have shown the gift of exaggeration) is nothing more but yet another sign of how little the Muslim world cared about them... since whining is all they did.

    It's true America is smart enough to only look out for it's own interests, except for our stupid involvement in Serbia, just like every Muslim country on Earth only looks out for it's own interests. So what? And the total ignorance of the non-Americans here concerning either America's human rights record or the abuses of other countries is absolutely amazing.
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    Alhamdulillah. This is very funny thread listening to the pathetic cries of scorned amriikkkans...ma'shi

    Brothers caliph and Kaleem, you both are correct in what you say and may Allah(swt) reward you for your patience and your steadfast strength in your eeman in the face of this adversity.

    It surprises me that despite all of the exposure of the covering of information that bush and his administration team of dumbfounded arrogant half wits can still speak to the amriikkkan people after witholding such knowledge of the "attack" on western ground, and act as if they truly care about you....and YOU STILL BELIEVE THEM!! What more do you all want? YOUR GOVERNMENT CARES ONLY FOR THEMSELVES!!! Have they brainwashed you so well that you can not even see this?!

    Listen, are you all still crying about the 2000+ dead bodies that once littered the wtc area? Because if you all are, then you should take out your handkerchiefs and mop your tears every three months...that is the same amount of deaths that your capital punishment system puts to death...and they do every three months this kind of amount. Do you still want to remove terrorism? Then why do not amriikkkan government and their militants go to Ireland and see the "religious" battles there between the two feuding groups...this is not your jurisdiction, but Middle East is? What about the hypocritical terrorist ties of amriikkka and Yisrael? Who is supplying the terrorists to kill women, children and men in the West Bank which actually belongs to Palestinians, but is infested with yahuud settlers? As for terrorism, how can the most terroristic and arrogant country say they want to remove terrrorism, when they themselves commit an act of terrorism everyday? Economic terrorism is the subtle weapon the west uses, and it only keeps the poor, poor and the rich, fat and pampered....so everything stays under "control"...

    Check your hypocritical system confused amriikkkan citizens. You will give your blood and bodies for system that does wicked dealings and doings behind your backs...and now you feel ashamed because your system has covered information and lied to you. Still amriikkkan proud?

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    "2000+ dead bodies that once littered the wtc area? Because if you all are, then you should take out your handkerchiefs and mop your tears every three months...that is the same amount of deaths that your capital punishment system puts to death..."

    The figures are completely wrong Monikah. Go ahead and site your sources. 8000 per year? Girl, you got some bad info.

    WRONG WRONG WRONG

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    The USA is a paradise compared to...

    "becuase america even accordin to the UN [which usa seems to readliy ignore ] hAS abused more human rights then amother other nation.fact."

    Fact? FACT? Bull crud.

    You wish...cite one source that says the US has a worse human record than....

    China
    S. Africa
    Vietnam
    N. Korea
    Cuba
    Afghanistan
    Yugoslavia
    Turkey
    Russia
    Nigeria


    And yes, the home of Islam, Saudi Arabia.


    You have embarrassed yourself, incompetent....go do your homework, goofball.

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    Sponge, sponge, sponge, my old nemesis

    I have this to say, Texas uses the most electricity out of all countries in the united states this pertains to the amount of electricity used in the electric chair (this fact was in amriikkkan newspaper I read online). You don't need the head "Texicutioner" bush jr himself to tell you that now do you?
    As for my source of this information I read in amriikkkan newspaper few months after september 11th. It was written I believe, to show what kind of facts are little known about how amriikkkans put to death so many of their own by their own hands, yet are so angred when it is done by a non-amriikkkan with due cause.

    I really do not care if you believe me or not Sponge, I read what I read, and you should not say anything...apparently amriikkkan citizens are the last ones to know what their government does....


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    ASA,

    How very true! Sister Monikah wrote,

    "yet are so angred when it is done by a non-amriikkkan with due cause."

    What is the reason for this? Because they are hypocrites, but Allah (SWT) has already told us this. Why are we so surprised that the US acts in a hypocritical manner?

    If the US stopped acting in a hypocritical manner then we Muslims would have something to worry about!


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    vicous bicous!!everyone is at it today!!grrrrrr.

    Well anyways...all government sux!!!and everyone knows it but just because a government is bad that doesn't mean all people are bad.cause if that were true than we are all damned to hell.but anywas thats besides the point.All deaths are horrible wethere they are 1 or 1 million so lets not down play any of them.Secondly, I think a huge problem in this world is that people only see Killing one another as a solution to the problem.That just isn't so.I think people need to get some sort of understandung of each other.For example,I person saying that they "hate" Islam yet never met a Muslim or read anything about Islam well that person is irrelevant..same goes for someone who says they just hate America and Americans are stupid yet they have never been to America or met an American.

    Back to the topic here.omar is a coward and a wuse.Why did he run like a baby.Why didn't he stay and fight for his people.If he every came around my way I'd poke his other eye out!

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    Quote "vicous bicous!!everyone is at it today!!grrrrrr.

    Well anyways...all government sux!!!"

    Charming....now we have a anarchist oboard as well!

    hey..listen...you go on about how Omar "ran away" or Bin Laden "hides in a cave" but i call it a Military strategy!!

    Just like on September 11th Bush ran to his underground bunker, was this not a act of cowardice??
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    Originally posted by caliph
    ASA,

    How very true! Sister Monikah wrote,

    "yet are so angred when it is done by a non-amriikkkan with due cause."

    What is the reason for this? Because they are hypocrites, but Allah (SWT) has already told us this. Why are we so surprised that the US acts in a hypocritical manner?

    If the US stopped acting in a hypocritical manner then we Muslims would have something to worry about!


    WS
    Why tell me why has america been so richly blessed and eastern countries have not? eastern countries wouldnt have a pot for rice if it wasnt for american money, just who do you think they would export goods to if not america? each other? roflmao
    The american people must be doing somerthing right,,,,,, maybe the the 90 million american CHRISTIANS make the difference. And yes i will be the first to say that most americans take even the little things such as eletricity,and unlimited clean running water, and lavish cloths of the finest fabrics in the world for granted. But hey you get what you put in, and people get what they deserve.

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    Brother caliph, as salaamu alaikum and ma'shAllah I agree with your response. Who nominated amriikkka to be "world police" minding everyone else's affairs but their own? These people are the most backwards and deficient of morals the like I have never seen! But they will see it start to crumble before their eyes, like they are seeing only the beginning of now.

    I am disgusted by my own family who lives in the west. I talk to them and want so badly to send them to a country like Pakistan where Islam could be re-introduced to them the Talibaan way. Hearing their lack of effort in their deen, listening to they way they are proud of where they live is enough to make me want to see them flogged. But I digress.

    The problem with western life is that there are too many distractions away from worship and wholehearted service to Allah(swt). With so much of television, music, movies in cinema, clothing, money, material items and other "things", people of the west have lost focus on caring about the next enevitable life. But to me, they do not seem to care, these arrogant kaafiruun. They raise themselves up so high they do not see down. But always, there is no escape, you can only rise so high until the One(swt) who has all of the power and wisdom will take away the rope He extends to help them.

    We will watch and wait. It will be difficult to watch more and more of ourselves die and being martyred in the name of Islam, but we will still wait, for Allah(swt) is ever close to His believing, patient servants and we live on by Him in the Hereafter.

    *May Allah(swt) accept all salah and eebadah from the martyred lives of His shaheeds who have sacrificed this life for the next seeking His grace amin. sis M.
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    Salaams. This is quick note to Anne Marie (formerly Scholar).

    My dear girl, if this is the attitude that you have already at this young age, saying "government sucks" and so on, it is no surprise the level or lack of, intelligence coming out of the west. (I mean you NO DISRESPECT Anne, but I think your response was a little immature for such serious discussion).

    You wish to know why your country and its citizens are an insult to humanity and a plague to mankind? Because you all pass your dirty deeds to someone else when you all have had your fill of the firsthand destruction. Your country pounces on any thing which does or does not involve them and completely takes over, waging their own type of hypocritical, two-faced "justice", feeling they do not have to answer to anyone. But, enevitably, everyone has to answer to someone, but in this case, this "Someone" is One whom NO ONE can control or terrorize and bully SubhanAllah Allahu akbar!

    And what will you, your countrymen and your lying gaggle of government and your low intellect president say when you all are asked on our Day of Judgement when Alllah(swt) questions your deeds and actions from this human life?!

    Do never say you have not been warned what we are all destined to approach....

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    "As for my source of this information I read in amriikkkan newspaper few months after september 11th. "

    You believe everything you read Monikah?

    Or just what you want to believe?

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    Originally posted by caliph
    Cruiser said,

    No, the why is irrelevant

    Typical Amerikkkan response. Never mind the phrase, "prevention is better than cure."

    Remove the cause of Muslim dislike of the US and you'll instantly remove the threat. The 'why' is extremely relevant, especically when you consider it's the main reason behind the attack.

    Amerikkkans don't want to consider the 'why' only because they know it's going to come back and bite them on the a**. The sooner these Amerikkkans wake out of their media-induced slumber, the better.

    Then Cruiser spouted,

    and I believe the process of removing them, rather than their beef which is also irrelevant, has been going rather nicely for quite some time now.

    Yeah, it's been going all fine and dandy hasn't it? 4 Canadian soliders killed, 5,000+ civilians murdered yet Osama and Mullah Omar are still around :-)

    Meanwhile, the US campaign against Islam has been stirring up more anti-US resentment, when that blows up, you can be guaranteed the Amerikkkans will not re-evaluat their attitude.

    You might think that osama bin hidin is still around, but is he really? For someone who likes to sound off so much he sure has been a no show lately
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