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    Hajj process

    HAJJ AND ITS PROCESS FOR AGENTS

    Hajj and Umra is the portfolio for the Ministry of Haj. The Minister of Haj, however, does not have similar status as the Minister of Interior (Prince Naif and third deputy to King Abdullah) or the Minister of Foreign Affairs.

    The above three ministries come together and, in conjunction with the Governor of Makkah and ministry of health, oversee the affairs pertinent to Umra and Haj.

    The Ministry of Interior:
    Has the remit for immigration, police including the Mutawa (civil/morality police), civil defence (fire department).

    The Foreign Affairs:
    Has the remit for all consular service overseas handling the pilgrims visas.

    Ministry of Health:
    Responsible for all health issues including serious illness, epidemic and hospitalisation. Manages field hospitals during haj for pilgrims.

    Governor of Makkah:
    Responsible, for Civic responsibilities such as health and safety, licensing of buildings, local logistics,
    And Policing.

    Haj Ministry:
    Primarily responsible for all religious affairs linked to pilgrimage and maintenance of Mina, Muzdalifa and Arafat sites and licensing of all transportation for pilgrims, licensing of internal and external agents for umra and haj visits.

    The Process:

    There are different processes for organising Haj licenses whereas the licensing for umra is uniform for pilgrims from all countries in the world including those from Saudi Arabia itself.

    The local Saudis and the expatriates domiciled there are allowed to perform one haj only every five years. They are not barred from performing umra whenever they like.

    The citizens of the GCC countries have far more relaxed rules on entering Saudi Arabia especially for umra but the rule on haj apply to them generally.

    For all Islamic Countries, there is a QUOTA determining how many Hujjajs can perform haj every year. The quota is on a formula based on the total muslim population. Indonesia and Turkey has the highest quota followed by Egypt and Pakistan.

    Each Islamic country has their own rules on granting haj visas. Generally a QURRA system is employed. Each country has appointed agents who handle the process as well as a government appointed quango who also handle the process. For example, in India, the bulk of the haj is handled by the Haj Committee of India.

    For countries that have insignificant muslim population the rules are applied differently and agents are not involved. A pilgrim approaches the local Saudi Embassy for the visa or contacts the nearest Saudi Embassy in another country for their visa. The West Indies is one example where pilgrims apply for their visa from Guyana or even Canada.

    For the western world such as UK , Europe, North America, Australia etc they have different rule for Haj.

    THE ESTABLISHMENT OF FIELD SERVICES FOR EUROPA AUSTRALIA AND TURKIYYA.
    Also known as Moassasa for Europa, America, Australia and Turkey.

    This is the Quango that manage hujjajs from UK and other countries stated above. There is also another quango called “United Agents”.

    United Agents:
    This is the organisation that directly manages all the pilgrims affairs which include the dedicated airport terminals, the organising of the camps in Mina and Arafah, the water supply in Mina, Muzdalifa and Arafah, the contracting of vehicles for all logistics and the finance involved including payments to the Mutawwif for their services.

    WHAT IS INVOLVED:

    There is a quota for all of us. Not all countries in Europe or Canada fill their quota so there is some flexibility in the numbers permitted to perform haj from those countries.

    UK:

    The quota for UK is 21950 every year. In addition, some high profile industrialist and the Royal family have permission to “INVITE” hujjajs from wherever they wish to perform haj as their personal guests.

    That is an open ended permission which bypass the quota system. Generally, this permission is intended as a tool to strengthen the bond between Islam and new reverts or those reverts who are unable to raise sufficient fund to perform their haj.

    Needless to say that such flexibility is open to abuse and becomes a mean to generate money for those thus advantaged.

    Every year, on the year, the rules governing the flow of pilgrims is tightened and restriction put in place both for Umra and Haj trips.

    HAJ LICENSE:

    I will relate to UK only.

    All current licensed holders for Haj has had their license granted several years ago. No new license has been granted since then.

    The Ministry of Haj closely monitor the agents directly themselves and in-directly through the Moassasa’s offices.

    The Europa is further divided into individual countries and license is granted to qualifying Saudis to organise and administer it known as “MUTAWWIF”.

    THE MUTAWWIF: Used to be the good old Muallim but totally commercialised. I remember my hajj in 1961. We were received at the airport by the muallim who had personally visited us in our country (Myanmar) to solicit booking with him. He arranged our transfer from Jedda to Makka and kept us in his house for couple of days as his guest whilst letting us seek accommodation.



    The agent, from UK, must have the following to be registered for this year’s haj:

    Registration with Companies House.
    If his quota is less than 300 he must be ATOL registered.
    If his quota is above 300 he must have an IATA license.
    He must produce a CV showing how and why he is qualified to be a haj agent.
    He must produce a certificate from Inland Revenue showing he has paid his corporation tax.
    He must produce a letter from his licensed accountant certifying him as a tax payer and a registered company.
    He must produce a letter from his Bank showing he has a bank account.
    He must produce a bank statement proving his previous history of financial transactions.
    He must produce a letter authorising him as the main person responsible to organise a tour this year.

    He visits the Moassasa office opened from Mid Shaban till 15 Ramadan to complete his formalities. He presents all the above documents in original form and legalised translation of all of the papers.

    The legalisation process must involve:
    a) Verification by a solicitor/barrister registered with the law society.
    b) Legalisation by the UK Foreign Office.
    c) Verification by the British Chamber of Commerce
    d) Verification by the Arab Chamber of Commerce.
    e) Verification by the Saudi Consulate.

    The Moassasa, once satisfied by the documents issues a “Card Munazzam” to the agent.

    The agent than embarks on a round of bureaucracy in Saudi Arabia.

    He opens a temporary bank account and pays the cost for administration.
    He deposits a sum of money reflecting the number of pilgrims he is permitted to bring. SR50 each which is refundable AFTER pilgrims had returned back home and once the Moassasa is satisfied that the agent did not accrue any objections.
    He deposits a sum of money with the “Sundook” at the Moassasa office. SR22 per hujjaj he is allowed to bring and which is refundable AFTER pilgrims has returned back home. This ensures that any contingency assistance provided by the Moassasa is funded from this deposit.
    He pays an insurance fee per hujjaj in case any damage is done at the Mina or Arafat site by his pilgrim. This is non-refundable even if no damage is done.
    He pays a deposit to “Naqabah” office in Jeddah. Naqabah is the agent responsible for all transportation/logistics on behalf of United Agents. This deposit covers the transportation of pilgrims organised by the Mutawwif.


    He obtains receipts from everyone involved.

    The agent may start looking for appropriate accommodations in Makkah, Madinah and elsewhere
    ( eg.Aziziya) if he had not already done so earlier on in the year.

    Each building or hotel he engages must have the clearance certificate approved by fire department, the municipalities which licenses buildings or Ministry of Tourism which licenses the hotels.

    Each such units have their own booking arrangement. A building owner may require certain deposit in instalments as would a hotel upto 2 star. The booking would often be for the full duration of haj.
    Such units also allow the agent to prepare meals on site and feed his group. However, this is totally forbidden in Madina.

    A hotel from 2 star upward may negotiate the booking for specified periods or full duration of haj allowing the agent to subsequently “rent” it out to others to cover his cost. They may or may not allow on site preparation of meals

    A UK agent normally books the hotel within 15 Zul Qadda to 25 Zul Haj according to the package duration and itinerary in his plan.

    A 4 star hotel and upwards would specify the booking even more narrowly. The booking may be in blocks of days consisting 4 days, six days, 8 days and charge accordingly. The agents will not be allowed to prepare or feed his pilgrims except to “buy” that in from the hotel’s own restaurant. Hence, a UK agent may not offer any meal at all due to the cost involved or may offer only bed and breakfast or breakfast and one other meal known as half board. He has no choice in selecting the menu and pilgrims will consume whatever is on offer. Having said that all 5 star hotels have a wide variety of food to cater for all “universal” taste buds. This is where the popular “DAAL” is missed so much because it is never available and you have to head for the local Islamabad or Faisalabad restaurant if you are literally dying for it.

    Hence, groups like Al Hidaya and Travel Express etc has certain number of days in Makkah and shift you away thereafter.

    The agent returns back to Moassasa office when it re-opens after Ramadan armed with all finalised paperwork and accompanied by the owners or representatives of the accommodation he has booked.

    He makes a binding agreement for the dates of your itinerary and accommodation.

    The Moassasa then takes a 10% of the total hotel/building charge (refundable) from the owners of the accommodation of the total that he has taken from the UK agent. This is to cover any complaint or lack of promised service such as broken loos, no hot water, malfunctioning lifts etc . This, to me is tokenistic, as no action is ever taken against such building/hotel when such failure occurs.

    The agent is then directed to select a “Maktab” or “Mutawwif”. The Mutawwif will offer two types of Campsite to the agent.

    Camp A: A fee is to be paid depending on the level of service from this Mutawwif.
    a) VIP: You get a sofa bed or thick mattresses, pillow and a blanket to sleep on. This guarantees a space for every pilgrim.
    It also includes simple breakfast and two meals. The meals will be basic and you will have to queue for that. If you be late or last you may well go hungry as the meal is in short supply.
    It guarantees early transfer from Mina to Arafat only.
    Your camps are located furthest from the common toilet cushioning you against the noise and smell.
    b) Non-VIP: You get a simple mattress or sleeping bag and one meal in Arafat.

    Camp B: These are newly created site from the removal of mountains and are practically in
    Muzdalifa instead of Mina.
    Your group has NO Guarantee to be in one camp and may well be split. There is also
    extreme tight situation and some may not get any space inside the tent at all and may well
    have to sleep in the corridors or kitchens.
    Some other group, having arrived before you, would be squatting in your allocation and
    there is little, other than a fisticuff (remember you are in Ihram) in persuading them to
    leave. Yes, contrary to what you may expect, no authority would intervene, if you can find
    one that is, to get you a space in such camps. This would mean the likelihood of your group
    leader getting your wrath un-deservedly as, in the end, the service you get is what you paid
    or the result of an economy package.
    You will be the last to be moved to Arafah and the last to be moved to Muzdalifa.
    You will also not get a transport back to Makkah/Aziziya when haj is over on 12/13 Z Hajja.

    Once the Moassasa is satisfied he sends the papers to the Ministry of Haj in Rusaifa or Shisa. The MoH then prints the haj barcodes identifying the agent and his Moassasa.

    The agent receives his bar-codes a few days thereafter and returns back to UK. He then makes an appointment with the Consul at the Saudi Embassy where he takes all his papers, with photo copies, and receive any “wisdom” that the consul may feel obliged to impart to him.

    The agent is either allocated a new set of UserID and Password or allowed to use his previous one which is activated 24/48 hours after his “privileged encounter” with the consul.

    The agent may already have your passports with him or ask you to give them to him along with a completed haj visa application form and four photographs.

    The consulate no longer requires (they dropped that 3 years ago) that your confirmed airline tickets or your medical certificates be produced. So, PLEASE don’t send your medical certs to your agent even if he demands that from you. You will need to have them with you at the time of checking in for your flight for haj.

    The Visa Process:

    The agent prepares a list of his pilgrims with relevant data.

    He also selects two blank facing pages in your passport and adheres the haj bar-code on one corner and puts the visa form in there. The visa form only needs ONE photo.

    The agent uses one of your photo for recording it for the embassy by scanning, reducing its size to under 4kb and saving it in a folder he creates on his system

    The agent than accesses the www.visa.mofa.gov.sa using the allocated password and completes the data upload from your passport.

    He then attaches the scanned picture to this data page and sends it. The system than generates an “E Number” which is noted on the visa form and a page is printed off.

    The printout is attached to the visa form and submitted to the embassy. The embassy issues the haj visa after duly ascertaining that all requirements are met.

    The agent than sends out the passport back to you or keeps it for the seminar day, if he holds one, or gives it to you at the airport when you are flying out.

    ARRIVAL.

    Your agent cannot take you to Madina or Makkah outside of his undertaken dates. If you are flying solo, outside of the group, you cannot arrive BEFORE the expected date nor stay at an address not agreed by the Moassasa. If you do, your agent will be severely penalised.

    The arrival process at Madina airport is swift and before you can literally complete your missed salah the formality is over and you are outside the terminal !!!

    Not so in Jedda, I am afraid. The arrival process within the immigration, united agents, custom and haj draft can take a minimum of two hours if not more.

    It is best that you travel in group and stay in group at this point. Haj terminal is massive and you can easily be confused and get separated from your group.

    You will be escorted to a meeting place where your luggage would be waiting. Your group leader will collect your passports and leave you to sort out your coach for travel to Makkah or Madinah. Depending on the number in your group you may or may not get a bus early.

    Your passport will be taken by the united agent’s officials whilst you board the bus. There will be a wait for the UA officials to complete your bus paperwork. Your luggage will be handled by porters at the airport. If travelling solo you need to ensure where on the roof your bags are placed.

    Once ready, the UA Officials would do a body count and let the bus go. It will then take an hour and half to make to the pilgrim reception centre outside Makkah. Here your passports will be scrutinised again and can take upto an hour to complete before you continue with your journey. An escort will be assigned and he will guide your driver to your “Mutawwif’s” office in Makkah.

    Here, at the mutawwif’s office, your passport will be handed and kept. The mutawwif will issue you temporary ID cards in exchange for the passports and an arm band that you MUST wear at all times. Be careful not to lose it as it will be your pass into the Mina camps.

    You will be taken to your designated accommodation and your agent will than advise you on your rooms, location, hotel card and when or how to begin your umra.

    If you travel to Madina first, by bus, that will take upto 14 hours to complete with same process as for Makkah except that you will go direct to your accommodation from the pilgrim reception centre as there is no “Maktab” in Madina. There is just one common Europa office there for land arrives and one for by air arrives.





    TRANSFER TO MINA-ARAFAT-MUZDALIFA-MINA-MAKKA

    On the 7th zul haj your agent will ask you to be ready for Mina by Asar time. Bear in mind that this is just tentative timing.

    The MoH does not allocate sufficient number of buses to the agents for the sake of traffic congestion and pollution. But that still remain the case.

    For a group of 150 pilgrims just one bus is given. That too, your agent has to go to the depot in Arafat to collect. Again, depending on the type of service he has agreed with the mutawwif, the bus will be given at appropriate time reflecting the service.

    Hence, no service mean you are the last. The bus will have to make the number of shuttles beween where you are located to your mina camps. If you are fortunate to be on the first bus you are first amongst your group into your tents. The last one can arrive as late as Asar time on 8th Zul Haj.

    If you have VIP service you will also get the first buses into Arafah. You will travel together as a group. If you are in no service you will get the buses after everyone else has gone. You can arrive in Arafah after Zohur so be prepared and not blame your agent.

    Likewise, after sunset, you will be transferred accordingly to Muzdalifa. Expect to get there past midnight.

    In the morning, there is everyone for him/herself as no orderly arrangement is possible for transfer from Muzdalifa to Mina. If you are fit, you are better off legging it. But leave Muzdalifa by 0830 you will as the crows start flying in thereafter there being no one to disturb their foraging of the goodies or mess left by fellow hujjajs !!!

    The stay in Mina, thereafter, and the trip to Makkah for Tawaf/Sai Ziarah will be entirely upto your agent and the type of package you got from him.

    On 12 Zul hajj buses will start rolling in around 2 pm imploring you to board them for transfer to Makkah again. Here too, you will be guided by your group leaders on the schedule. Again, on 13 Zul hajj buses will roll again by noon and come Asar time Mina is deserted like it never saw anyone before except the huge mess left behind by us “TAHARA” seeking Muslims.

    If you are to travel to Madina after haj, your agent will organise the transfer for 14 zul haj at the earliest. You cannot go to Madina before this date.

    If you are returning back home after haj, you can do so on 13 zul haj and thereafter as per arrangement made by your agent.

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    2. Can some one go to another country after Hajj?

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    Dont use this sticky to raise questions.

    Start a thread and you will, InshaAllah, get a reply.

    Yes, you can fly into KSA (Jedda/Madina) from anywhere in the world and fly back to wherever it takes your schedule.

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    jazakhallahu khair brother Ismail for that detailed account.
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    HAJJ AND ITS PROCESS FOR AGENTS

    Hajj and Umra is the portfolio for the Ministry of Haj. The Minister of Haj, however, does not have similar status as the Minister of Interior (Prince Naif and third deputy to King Abdullah) or the Minister of Foreign Affairs.

    The above three ministries come together and, in conjunction with the Governor of Makkah and ministry of health, oversee the affairs pertinent to Umra and Haj.

    The Ministry of Interior:
    Has the remit for immigration, police including the Mutawa (civil/morality police), civil defence (fire department).

    The Foreign Affairs:
    Has the remit for all consular service overseas handling the pilgrims visas.

    Ministry of Health:
    Responsible for all health issues including serious illness, epidemic and hospitalisation. Manages field hospitals during haj for pilgrims.

    Governor of Makkah:
    Responsible, for Civic responsibilities such as health and safety, licensing of buildings, local logistics,
    And Policing.

    Haj Ministry:
    Primarily responsible for all religious affairs linked to pilgrimage and maintenance of Mina, Muzdalifa and Arafat sites and licensing of all transportation for pilgrims, licensing of internal and external agents for umra and haj visits.

    The Process:

    There are different processes for organising Haj licenses whereas the licensing for umra is uniform for pilgrims from all countries in the world including those from Saudi Arabia itself.

    The local Saudis and the expatriates domiciled there are allowed to perform one haj only every five years. They are not barred from performing umra whenever they like.

    The citizens of the GCC countries have far more relaxed rules on entering Saudi Arabia especially for umra but the rule on haj apply to them generally.

    For all Islamic Countries, there is a QUOTA determining how many Hujjajs can perform haj every year. The quota is on a formula based on the total muslim population. Indonesia and Turkey has the highest quota followed by Egypt and Pakistan.

    Each Islamic country has their own rules on granting haj visas. Generally a QURRA system is employed. Each country has appointed agents who handle the process as well as a government appointed quango who also handle the process. For example, in India, the bulk of the haj is handled by the Haj Committee of India.

    For countries that have insignificant muslim population the rules are applied differently and agents are not involved. A pilgrim approaches the local Saudi Embassy for the visa or contacts the nearest Saudi Embassy in another country for their visa. The West Indies is one example where pilgrims apply for their visa from Guyana or even Canada.

    For the western world such as UK , Europe, North America, Australia etc they have different rule for Haj.

    THE ESTABLISHMENT OF FIELD SERVICES FOR EUROPA AUSTRALIA AND TURKIYYA.
    Also known as Moassasa for Europa, America, Australia and Turkey.

    This is the Quango that manage hujjajs from UK and other countries stated above. There is also another quango called “United Agents”.

    United Agents:
    This is the organisation that directly manages all the pilgrims affairs which include the dedicated airport terminals, the organising of the camps in Mina and Arafah, the water supply in Mina, Muzdalifa and Arafah, the contracting of vehicles for all logistics and the finance involved including payments to the Mutawwif for their services.

    WHAT IS INVOLVED:

    There is a quota for all of us. Not all countries in Europe or Canada fill their quota so there is some flexibility in the numbers permitted to perform haj from those countries.

    UK:

    The quota for UK is 21950 every year. In addition, some high profile industrialist and the Royal family have permission to “INVITE” hujjajs from wherever they wish to perform haj as their personal guests.

    That is an open ended permission which bypass the quota system. Generally, this permission is intended as a tool to strengthen the bond between Islam and new reverts or those reverts who are unable to raise sufficient fund to perform their haj.

    Needless to say that such flexibility is open to abuse and becomes a mean to generate money for those thus advantaged.

    Every year, on the year, the rules governing the flow of pilgrims is tightened and restriction put in place both for Umra and Haj trips.

    HAJ LICENSE:

    I will relate to UK only.

    All current licensed holders for Haj has had their license granted several years ago. No new license has been granted since then.

    The Ministry of Haj closely monitor the agents directly themselves and in-directly through the Moassasa’s offices.

    The Europa is further divided into individual countries and license is granted to qualifying Saudis to organise and administer it known as “MUTAWWIF”.

    THE MUTAWWIF: Used to be the good old Muallim but totally commercialised. I remember my hajj in 1961. We were received at the airport by the muallim who had personally visited us in our country (Myanmar) to solicit booking with him. He arranged our transfer from Jedda to Makka and kept us in his house for couple of days as his guest whilst letting us seek accommodation.



    The agent, from UK, must have the following to be registered for this year’s haj:

    Registration with Companies House.
    If his quota is less than 300 he must be ATOL registered.
    If his quota is above 300 he must have an IATA license.
    He must produce a CV showing how and why he is qualified to be a haj agent.
    He must produce a certificate from Inland Revenue showing he has paid his corporation tax.
    He must produce a letter from his licensed accountant certifying him as a tax payer and a registered company.
    He must produce a letter from his Bank showing he has a bank account.
    He must produce a bank statement proving his previous history of financial transactions.
    He must produce a letter authorising him as the main person responsible to organise a tour this year.

    He visits the Moassasa office opened from Mid Shaban till 15 Ramadan to complete his formalities. He presents all the above documents in original form and legalised translation of all of the papers.

    The legalisation process must involve:
    a) Verification by a solicitor/barrister registered with the law society.
    b) Legalisation by the UK Foreign Office.
    c) Verification by the British Chamber of Commerce
    d) Verification by the Arab Chamber of Commerce.
    e) Verification by the Saudi Consulate.

    The Moassasa, once satisfied by the documents issues a “Card Munazzam” to the agent.

    The agent than embarks on a round of bureaucracy in Saudi Arabia.

    He opens a temporary bank account and pays the cost for administration.
    He deposits a sum of money reflecting the number of pilgrims he is permitted to bring. SR50 each which is refundable AFTER pilgrims had returned back home and once the Moassasa is satisfied that the agent did not accrue any objections.
    He deposits a sum of money with the “Sundook” at the Moassasa office. SR22 per hujjaj he is allowed to bring and which is refundable AFTER pilgrims has returned back home. This ensures that any contingency assistance provided by the Moassasa is funded from this deposit.
    He pays an insurance fee per hujjaj in case any damage is done at the Mina or Arafat site by his pilgrim. This is non-refundable even if no damage is done.
    He pays a deposit to “Naqabah” office in Jeddah. Naqabah is the agent responsible for all transportation/logistics on behalf of United Agents. This deposit covers the transportation of pilgrims organised by the Mutawwif.


    He obtains receipts from everyone involved.

    The agent may start looking for appropriate accommodations in Makkah, Madinah and elsewhere
    ( eg.Aziziya) if he had not already done so earlier on in the year.

    Each building or hotel he engages must have the clearance certificate approved by fire department, the municipalities which licenses buildings or Ministry of Tourism which licenses the hotels.

    Each such units have their own booking arrangement. A building owner may require certain deposit in instalments as would a hotel upto 2 star. The booking would often be for the full duration of haj.
    Such units also allow the agent to prepare meals on site and feed his group. However, this is totally forbidden in Madina.

    A hotel from 2 star upward may negotiate the booking for specified periods or full duration of haj allowing the agent to subsequently “rent” it out to others to cover his cost. They may or may not allow on site preparation of meals

    A UK agent normally books the hotel within 15 Zul Qadda to 25 Zul Haj according to the package duration and itinerary in his plan.

    A 4 star hotel and upwards would specify the booking even more narrowly. The booking may be in blocks of days consisting 4 days, six days, 8 days and charge accordingly. The agents will not be allowed to prepare or feed his pilgrims except to “buy” that in from the hotel’s own restaurant. Hence, a UK agent may not offer any meal at all due to the cost involved or may offer only bed and breakfast or breakfast and one other meal known as half board. He has no choice in selecting the menu and pilgrims will consume whatever is on offer. Having said that all 5 star hotels have a wide variety of food to cater for all “universal” taste buds. This is where the popular “DAAL” is missed so much because it is never available and you have to head for the local Islamabad or Faisalabad restaurant if you are literally dying for it.

    Hence, groups like Al Hidaya and Travel Express etc has certain number of days in Makkah and shift you away thereafter.

    The agent returns back to Moassasa office when it re-opens after Ramadan armed with all finalised paperwork and accompanied by the owners or representatives of the accommodation he has booked.

    He makes a binding agreement for the dates of your itinerary and accommodation.

    The Moassasa then takes a 10% of the total hotel/building charge (refundable) from the owners of the accommodation of the total that he has taken from the UK agent. This is to cover any complaint or lack of promised service such as broken loos, no hot water, malfunctioning lifts etc . This, to me is tokenistic, as no action is ever taken against such building/hotel when such failure occurs.

    The agent is then directed to select a “Maktab” or “Mutawwif”. The Mutawwif will offer two types of Campsite to the agent.

    Camp A: A fee is to be paid depending on the level of service from this Mutawwif.
    a) VIP: You get a sofa bed or thick mattresses, pillow and a blanket to sleep on. This guarantees a space for every pilgrim.
    It also includes simple breakfast and two meals. The meals will be basic and you will have to queue for that. If you be late or last you may well go hungry as the meal is in short supply.
    It guarantees early transfer from Mina to Arafat only.
    Your camps are located furthest from the common toilet cushioning you against the noise and smell.
    b) Non-VIP: You get a simple mattress or sleeping bag and one meal in Arafat.

    Camp B: These are newly created site from the removal of mountains and are practically in
    Muzdalifa instead of Mina.
    Your group has NO Guarantee to be in one camp and may well be split. There is also
    extreme tight situation and some may not get any space inside the tent at all and may well
    have to sleep in the corridors or kitchens.
    Some other group, having arrived before you, would be squatting in your allocation and
    there is little, other than a fisticuff (remember you are in Ihram) in persuading them to
    leave. Yes, contrary to what you may expect, no authority would intervene, if you can find
    one that is, to get you a space in such camps. This would mean the likelihood of your group
    leader getting your wrath un-deservedly as, in the end, the service you get is what you paid
    or the result of an economy package.
    You will be the last to be moved to Arafah and the last to be moved to Muzdalifa.
    You will also not get a transport back to Makkah/Aziziya when haj is over on 12/13 Z Hajja.

    Once the Moassasa is satisfied he sends the papers to the Ministry of Haj in Rusaifa or Shisa. The MoH then prints the haj barcodes identifying the agent and his Moassasa.

    The agent receives his bar-codes a few days thereafter and returns back to UK. He then makes an appointment with the Consul at the Saudi Embassy where he takes all his papers, with photo copies, and receive any “wisdom” that the consul may feel obliged to impart to him.

    The agent is either allocated a new set of UserID and Password or allowed to use his previous one which is activated 24/48 hours after his “privileged encounter” with the consul.

    The agent may already have your passports with him or ask you to give them to him along with a completed haj visa application form and four photographs.

    The consulate no longer requires (they dropped that 3 years ago) that your confirmed airline tickets or your medical certificates be produced. So, PLEASE don’t send your medical certs to your agent even if he demands that from you. You will need to have them with you at the time of checking in for your flight for haj.

    The Visa Process:

    The agent prepares a list of his pilgrims with relevant data.

    He also selects two blank facing pages in your passport and adheres the haj bar-code on one corner and puts the visa form in there. The visa form only needs ONE photo.

    The agent uses one of your photo for recording it for the embassy by scanning, reducing its size to under 4kb and saving it in a folder he creates on his system

    The agent than accesses the www.visa.mofa.gov.sa using the allocated password and completes the data upload from your passport.

    He then attaches the scanned picture to this data page and sends it. The system than generates an “E Number” which is noted on the visa form and a page is printed off.

    The printout is attached to the visa form and submitted to the embassy. The embassy issues the haj visa after duly ascertaining that all requirements are met.

    The agent than sends out the passport back to you or keeps it for the seminar day, if he holds one, or gives it to you at the airport when you are flying out.

    ARRIVAL.

    Your agent cannot take you to Madina or Makkah outside of his undertaken dates. If you are flying solo, outside of the group, you cannot arrive BEFORE the expected date nor stay at an address not agreed by the Moassasa. If you do, your agent will be severely penalised.

    The arrival process at Madina airport is swift and before you can literally complete your missed salah the formality is over and you are outside the terminal !!!

    Not so in Jedda, I am afraid. The arrival process within the immigration, united agents, custom and haj draft can take a minimum of two hours if not more.

    It is best that you travel in group and stay in group at this point. Haj terminal is massive and you can easily be confused and get separated from your group.

    You will be escorted to a meeting place where your luggage would be waiting. Your group leader will collect your passports and leave you to sort out your coach for travel to Makkah or Madinah. Depending on the number in your group you may or may not get a bus early.

    Your passport will be taken by the united agent’s officials whilst you board the bus. There will be a wait for the UA officials to complete your bus paperwork. Your luggage will be handled by porters at the airport. If travelling solo you need to ensure where on the roof your bags are placed.

    Once ready, the UA Officials would do a body count and let the bus go. It will then take an hour and half to make to the pilgrim reception centre outside Makkah. Here your passports will be scrutinised again and can take upto an hour to complete before you continue with your journey. An escort will be assigned and he will guide your driver to your “Mutawwif’s” office in Makkah.

    Here, at the mutawwif’s office, your passport will be handed and kept. The mutawwif will issue you temporary ID cards in exchange for the passports and an arm band that you MUST wear at all times. Be careful not to lose it as it will be your pass into the Mina camps.

    You will be taken to your designated accommodation and your agent will than advise you on your rooms, location, hotel card and when or how to begin your umra.

    If you travel to Madina first, by bus, that will take upto 14 hours to complete with same process as for Makkah except that you will go direct to your accommodation from the pilgrim reception centre as there is no “Maktab” in Madina. There is just one common Europa office there for land arrives and one for by air arrives.





    TRANSFER TO MINA-ARAFAT-MUZDALIFA-MINA-MAKKA

    On the 7th zul haj your agent will ask you to be ready for Mina by Asar time. Bear in mind that this is just tentative timing.

    The MoH does not allocate sufficient number of buses to the agents for the sake of traffic congestion and pollution. But that still remain the case.

    For a group of 150 pilgrims just one bus is given. That too, your agent has to go to the depot in Arafat to collect. Again, depending on the type of service he has agreed with the mutawwif, the bus will be given at appropriate time reflecting the service.

    Hence, no service mean you are the last. The bus will have to make the number of shuttles beween where you are located to your mina camps. If you are fortunate to be on the first bus you are first amongst your group into your tents. The last one can arrive as late as Asar time on 8th Zul Haj.

    If you have VIP service you will also get the first buses into Arafah. You will travel together as a group. If you are in no service you will get the buses after everyone else has gone. You can arrive in Arafah after Zohur so be prepared and not blame your agent.

    Likewise, after sunset, you will be transferred accordingly to Muzdalifa. Expect to get there past midnight.

    In the morning, there is everyone for him/herself as no orderly arrangement is possible for transfer from Muzdalifa to Mina. If you are fit, you are better off legging it. But leave Muzdalifa by 0830 you will as the crows start flying in thereafter there being no one to disturb their foraging of the goodies or mess left by fellow hujjajs !!!

    The stay in Mina, thereafter, and the trip to Makkah for Tawaf/Sai Ziarah will be entirely upto your agent and the type of package you got from him.

    On 12 Zul hajj buses will start rolling in around 2 pm imploring you to board them for transfer to Makkah again. Here too, you will be guided by your group leaders on the schedule. Again, on 13 Zul hajj buses will roll again by noon and come Asar time Mina is deserted like it never saw anyone before except the huge mess left behind by us “TAHARA” seeking Muslims.

    If you are to travel to Madina after haj, your agent will organise the transfer for 14 zul haj at the earliest. You cannot go to Madina before this date.

    If you are returning back home after haj, you can do so on 13 zul haj and thereafter as per arrangement made by your agent.

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    Please remove this post #46.

    You are advertising your company. This is a STICKY on How Haj is done and not on How you market .

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    This is a STICKY about Haj Process and not what your children are thinking about.

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    HAJJ AND ITS PROCESS FOR AGENTS

    Hajj and Umra is the portfolio for the Ministry of Haj. The Minister of Haj, however, does not have similar status as the Minister of Interior (Prince Naif and third deputy to King Abdullah) or the Minister of Foreign Affairs.

    The above three ministries come together and, in conjunction with the Governor of Makkah and ministry of health, oversee the affairs pertinent to Umra and Haj.

    The Ministry of Interior:
    Has the remit for immigration, police including the Mutawa (civil/morality police), civil defence (fire department).

    The Foreign Affairs:
    Has the remit for all consular service overseas handling the pilgrims visas.

    Ministry of Health:
    Responsible for all health issues including serious illness, epidemic and hospitalisation. Manages field hospitals during haj for pilgrims.

    Governor of Makkah:
    Responsible, for Civic responsibilities such as health and safety, licensing of buildings, local logistics,
    And Policing.

    Haj Ministry:
    Primarily responsible for all religious affairs linked to pilgrimage and maintenance of Mina, Muzdalifa and Arafat sites and licensing of all transportation for pilgrims, licensing of internal and external agents for umra and haj visits.

    The Process:

    There are different processes for organising Haj licenses whereas the licensing for umra is uniform for pilgrims from all countries in the world including those from Saudi Arabia itself.

    The local Saudis and the expatriates domiciled there are allowed to perform one haj only every five years. They are not barred from performing umra whenever they like.

    The citizens of the GCC countries have far more relaxed rules on entering Saudi Arabia especially for umra but the rule on haj apply to them generally.

    For all Islamic Countries, there is a QUOTA determining how many Hujjajs can perform haj every year. The quota is on a formula based on the total muslim population. Indonesia and Turkey has the highest quota followed by Egypt and Pakistan.

    Each Islamic country has their own rules on granting haj visas. Generally a QURRA system is employed. Each country has appointed agents who handle the process as well as a government appointed quango who also handle the process. For example, in India, the bulk of the haj is handled by the Haj Committee of India.

    For countries that have insignificant muslim population the rules are applied differently and agents are not involved. A pilgrim approaches the local Saudi Embassy for the visa or contacts the nearest Saudi Embassy in another country for their visa. The West Indies is one example where pilgrims apply for their visa from Guyana or even Canada.

    For the western world such as UK , Europe, North America, Australia etc they have different rule for Haj.

    THE ESTABLISHMENT OF FIELD SERVICES FOR EUROPA AUSTRALIA AND TURKIYYA.
    Also known as Moassasa for Europa, America, Australia and Turkey.

    This is the Quango that manage hujjajs from UK and other countries stated above. There is also another quango called “United Agents”.

    United Agents:
    This is the organisation that directly manages all the pilgrims affairs which include the dedicated airport terminals, the organising of the camps in Mina and Arafah, the water supply in Mina, Muzdalifa and Arafah, the contracting of vehicles for all logistics and the finance involved including payments to the Mutawwif for their services.

    WHAT IS INVOLVED:

    There is a quota for all of us. Not all countries in Europe or Canada fill their quota so there is some flexibility in the numbers permitted to perform haj from those countries.

    UK:

    The quota for UK is 21950 every year. In addition, some high profile industrialist and the Royal family have permission to “INVITE” hujjajs from wherever they wish to perform haj as their personal guests.

    That is an open ended permission which bypass the quota system. Generally, this permission is intended as a tool to strengthen the bond between Islam and new reverts or those reverts who are unable to raise sufficient fund to perform their haj.

    Needless to say that such flexibility is open to abuse and becomes a mean to generate money for those thus advantaged.

    Every year, on the year, the rules governing the flow of pilgrims is tightened and restriction put in place both for Umra and Haj trips.

    HAJ LICENSE:

    I will relate to UK only.

    All current licensed holders for Haj has had their license granted several years ago. No new license has been granted since then.

    The Ministry of Haj closely monitor the agents directly themselves and in-directly through the Moassasa’s offices.

    The Europa is further divided into individual countries and license is granted to qualifying Saudis to organise and administer it known as “MUTAWWIF”.

    THE MUTAWWIF: Used to be the good old Muallim but totally commercialised. I remember my hajj in 1961. We were received at the airport by the muallim who had personally visited us in our country (Myanmar) to solicit booking with him. He arranged our transfer from Jedda to Makka and kept us in his house for couple of days as his guest whilst letting us seek accommodation.



    The agent, from UK, must have the following to be registered for this year’s haj:

    Registration with Companies House.
    If his quota is less than 300 he must be ATOL registered.
    If his quota is above 300 he must have an IATA license.
    He must produce a CV showing how and why he is qualified to be a haj agent.
    He must produce a certificate from Inland Revenue showing he has paid his corporation tax.
    He must produce a letter from his licensed accountant certifying him as a tax payer and a registered company.
    He must produce a letter from his Bank showing he has a bank account.
    He must produce a bank statement proving his previous history of financial transactions.
    He must produce a letter authorising him as the main person responsible to organise a tour this year.

    He visits the Moassasa office opened from Mid Shaban till 15 Ramadan to complete his formalities. He presents all the above documents in original form and legalised translation of all of the papers.

    The legalisation process must involve:
    a) Verification by a solicitor/barrister registered with the law society.
    b) Legalisation by the UK Foreign Office.
    c) Verification by the British Chamber of Commerce
    d) Verification by the Arab Chamber of Commerce.
    e) Verification by the Saudi Consulate.

    The Moassasa, once satisfied by the documents issues a “Card Munazzam” to the agent.

    The agent than embarks on a round of bureaucracy in Saudi Arabia.

    He opens a temporary bank account and pays the cost for administration.
    He deposits a sum of money reflecting the number of pilgrims he is permitted to bring. SR50 each which is refundable AFTER pilgrims had returned back home and once the Moassasa is satisfied that the agent did not accrue any objections.
    He deposits a sum of money with the “Sundook” at the Moassasa office. SR22 per hujjaj he is allowed to bring and which is refundable AFTER pilgrims has returned back home. This ensures that any contingency assistance provided by the Moassasa is funded from this deposit.
    He pays an insurance fee per hujjaj in case any damage is done at the Mina or Arafat site by his pilgrim. This is non-refundable even if no damage is done.
    He pays a deposit to “Naqabah” office in Jeddah. Naqabah is the agent responsible for all transportation/logistics on behalf of United Agents. This deposit covers the transportation of pilgrims organised by the Mutawwif.


    He obtains receipts from everyone involved.

    The agent may start looking for appropriate accommodations in Makkah, Madinah and elsewhere
    ( eg.Aziziya) if he had not already done so earlier on in the year.

    Each building or hotel he engages must have the clearance certificate approved by fire department, the municipalities which licenses buildings or Ministry of Tourism which licenses the hotels.

    Each such units have their own booking arrangement. A building owner may require certain deposit in instalments as would a hotel upto 2 star. The booking would often be for the full duration of haj.
    Such units also allow the agent to prepare meals on site and feed his group. However, this is totally forbidden in Madina.

    A hotel from 2 star upward may negotiate the booking for specified periods or full duration of haj allowing the agent to subsequently “rent” it out to others to cover his cost. They may or may not allow on site preparation of meals

    A UK agent normally books the hotel within 15 Zul Qadda to 25 Zul Haj according to the package duration and itinerary in his plan.

    A 4 star hotel and upwards would specify the booking even more narrowly. The booking may be in blocks of days consisting 4 days, six days, 8 days and charge accordingly. The agents will not be allowed to prepare or feed his pilgrims except to “buy” that in from the hotel’s own restaurant. Hence, a UK agent may not offer any meal at all due to the cost involved or may offer only bed and breakfast or breakfast and one other meal known as half board. He has no choice in selecting the menu and pilgrims will consume whatever is on offer. Having said that all 5 star hotels have a wide variety of food to cater for all “universal” taste buds. This is where the popular “DAAL” is missed so much because it is never available and you have to head for the local Islamabad or Faisalabad restaurant if you are literally dying for it.

    Hence, groups like Al Hidaya and Travel Express etc has certain number of days in Makkah and shift you away thereafter.

    The agent returns back to Moassasa office when it re-opens after Ramadan armed with all finalised paperwork and accompanied by the owners or representatives of the accommodation he has booked.

    He makes a binding agreement for the dates of your itinerary and accommodation.

    The Moassasa then takes a 10% of the total hotel/building charge (refundable) from the owners of the accommodation of the total that he has taken from the UK agent. This is to cover any complaint or lack of promised service such as broken loos, no hot water, malfunctioning lifts etc . This, to me is tokenistic, as no action is ever taken against such building/hotel when such failure occurs.

    The agent is then directed to select a “Maktab” or “Mutawwif”. The Mutawwif will offer two types of Campsite to the agent.

    Camp A: A fee is to be paid depending on the level of service from this Mutawwif.
    a) VIP: You get a sofa bed or thick mattresses, pillow and a blanket to sleep on. This guarantees a space for every pilgrim.
    It also includes simple breakfast and two meals. The meals will be basic and you will have to queue for that. If you be late or last you may well go hungry as the meal is in short supply.
    It guarantees early transfer from Mina to Arafat only.
    Your camps are located furthest from the common toilet cushioning you against the noise and smell.
    b) Non-VIP: You get a simple mattress or sleeping bag and one meal in Arafat.

    Camp B: These are newly created site from the removal of mountains and are practically in
    Muzdalifa instead of Mina.
    Your group has NO Guarantee to be in one camp and may well be split. There is also
    extreme tight situation and some may not get any space inside the tent at all and may well
    have to sleep in the corridors or kitchens.
    Some other group, having arrived before you, would be squatting in your allocation and
    there is little, other than a fisticuff (remember you are in Ihram) in persuading them to
    leave. Yes, contrary to what you may expect, no authority would intervene, if you can find
    one that is, to get you a space in such camps. This would mean the likelihood of your group
    leader getting your wrath un-deservedly as, in the end, the service you get is what you paid
    or the result of an economy package.
    You will be the last to be moved to Arafah and the last to be moved to Muzdalifa.
    You will also not get a transport back to Makkah/Aziziya when haj is over on 12/13 Z Hajja.

    Once the Moassasa is satisfied he sends the papers to the Ministry of Haj in Rusaifa or Shisa. The MoH then prints the haj barcodes identifying the agent and his Moassasa.

    The agent receives his bar-codes a few days thereafter and returns back to UK. He then makes an appointment with the Consul at the Saudi Embassy where he takes all his papers, with photo copies, and receive any “wisdom” that the consul may feel obliged to impart to him.

    The agent is either allocated a new set of UserID and Password or allowed to use his previous one which is activated 24/48 hours after his “privileged encounter” with the consul.

    The agent may already have your passports with him or ask you to give them to him along with a completed haj visa application form and four photographs.

    The consulate no longer requires (they dropped that 3 years ago) that your confirmed airline tickets or your medical certificates be produced. So, PLEASE don’t send your medical certs to your agent even if he demands that from you. You will need to have them with you at the time of checking in for your flight for haj.

    The Visa Process:

    The agent prepares a list of his pilgrims with relevant data.

    He also selects two blank facing pages in your passport and adheres the haj bar-code on one corner and puts the visa form in there. The visa form only needs ONE photo.

    The agent uses one of your photo for recording it for the embassy by scanning, reducing its size to under 4kb and saving it in a folder he creates on his system

    The agent than accesses the www.visa.mofa.gov.sa using the allocated password and completes the data upload from your passport.

    He then attaches the scanned picture to this data page and sends it. The system than generates an “E Number” which is noted on the visa form and a page is printed off.

    The printout is attached to the visa form and submitted to the embassy. The embassy issues the haj visa after duly ascertaining that all requirements are met.

    The agent than sends out the passport back to you or keeps it for the seminar day, if he holds one, or gives it to you at the airport when you are flying out.

    ARRIVAL.

    Your agent cannot take you to Madina or Makkah outside of his undertaken dates. If you are flying solo, outside of the group, you cannot arrive BEFORE the expected date nor stay at an address not agreed by the Moassasa. If you do, your agent will be severely penalised.

    The arrival process at Madina airport is swift and before you can literally complete your missed salah the formality is over and you are outside the terminal !!!

    Not so in Jedda, I am afraid. The arrival process within the immigration, united agents, custom and haj draft can take a minimum of two hours if not more.

    It is best that you travel in group and stay in group at this point. Haj terminal is massive and you can easily be confused and get separated from your group.

    You will be escorted to a meeting place where your luggage would be waiting. Your group leader will collect your passports and leave you to sort out your coach for travel to Makkah or Madinah. Depending on the number in your group you may or may not get a bus early.

    Your passport will be taken by the united agent’s officials whilst you board the bus. There will be a wait for the UA officials to complete your bus paperwork. Your luggage will be handled by porters at the airport. If travelling solo you need to ensure where on the roof your bags are placed.

    Once ready, the UA Officials would do a body count and let the bus go. It will then take an hour and half to make to the pilgrim reception centre outside Makkah. Here your passports will be scrutinised again and can take upto an hour to complete before you continue with your journey. An escort will be assigned and he will guide your driver to your “Mutawwif’s” office in Makkah.

    Here, at the mutawwif’s office, your passport will be handed and kept. The mutawwif will issue you temporary ID cards in exchange for the passports and an arm band that you MUST wear at all times. Be careful not to lose it as it will be your pass into the Mina camps.

    You will be taken to your designated accommodation and your agent will than advise you on your rooms, location, hotel card and when or how to begin your umra.

    If you travel to Madina first, by bus, that will take upto 14 hours to complete with same process as for Makkah except that you will go direct to your accommodation from the pilgrim reception centre as there is no “Maktab” in Madina. There is just one common Europa office there for land arrives and one for by air arrives.





    TRANSFER TO MINA-ARAFAT-MUZDALIFA-MINA-MAKKA

    On the 7th zul haj your agent will ask you to be ready for Mina by Asar time. Bear in mind that this is just tentative timing.

    The MoH does not allocate sufficient number of buses to the agents for the sake of traffic congestion and pollution. But that still remain the case.

    For a group of 150 pilgrims just one bus is given. That too, your agent has to go to the depot in Arafat to collect. Again, depending on the type of service he has agreed with the mutawwif, the bus will be given at appropriate time reflecting the service.

    Hence, no service mean you are the last. The bus will have to make the number of shuttles beween where you are located to your mina camps. If you are fortunate to be on the first bus you are first amongst your group into your tents. The last one can arrive as late as Asar time on 8th Zul Haj.

    If you have VIP service you will also get the first buses into Arafah. You will travel together as a group. If you are in no service you will get the buses after everyone else has gone. You can arrive in Arafah after Zohur so be prepared and not blame your agent.

    Likewise, after sunset, you will be transferred accordingly to Muzdalifa. Expect to get there past midnight.

    In the morning, there is everyone for him/herself as no orderly arrangement is possible for transfer from Muzdalifa to Mina. If you are fit, you are better off legging it. But leave Muzdalifa by 0830 you will as the crows start flying in thereafter there being no one to disturb their foraging of the goodies or mess left by fellow hujjajs !!!

    The stay in Mina, thereafter, and the trip to Makkah for Tawaf/Sai Ziarah will be entirely upto your agent and the type of package you got from him.

    On 12 Zul hajj buses will start rolling in around 2 pm imploring you to board them for transfer to Makkah again. Here too, you will be guided by your group leaders on the schedule. Again, on 13 Zul hajj buses will roll again by noon and come Asar time Mina is deserted like it never saw anyone before except the huge mess left behind by us “TAHARA” seeking Muslims.

    If you are to travel to Madina after haj, your agent will organise the transfer for 14 zul haj at the earliest. You cannot go to Madina before this date.

    If you are returning back home after haj, you can do so on 13 zul haj and thereafter as per arrangement made by your agent.

    This information really helps! Thanks a lot.

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    Assalam o Alllikum
    As a Muslim at least perform the Hajj once in your life if you have the ability to perform it.Ability mean you have financial resources also you physically fit. Thanks brother Ismail simile for sharing such a nice and important information with us i hope you regularly share such type of informatics information with us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OmerButt View Post
    Aoa.i am new on this forum so dont know much info.I have a question .


    I work in uae in a company.I want to do hajj ( max 7-10 days) on least expense.Is it possible to go by road to Mecca and perform hajj without any booking of hotel/accommodation.Because in my mind if i go by road the bus fare or my car fuel will be only expense.and book some B grade accommodation after reaching there or even sleeps in the open or mosques ( if its permitted by KSA government).Is it possible ? or no i should have 30000 dirham to perform hajj after booking some private tour operator.? guys help me if u hv some info in this regard.


    Omer Khalid.

    Brother Omer,

    First of all kindly delete this post of your's from this particular thread. This thread is about Haj Process and is meant as an educational information for members.

    Secondly, you cannot perform Haj outside of a licensed haj group. Thirdly, you cannot arrive in Saudia and THEN search for accommodation or sleep rough as you so indicated or in masjids. The masjids are house of Allah and meant to be a place for worship.

    May Allah Assist you in achieving your aspired aim to perform Haj, InshaAllah and make it easy for you to be able to afford it.

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    On these 10 (days), the Prophet, peace and blessings upon him and his family, said:

    “There aren’t any days greater, or any days, in which deeds done in them are more beloved to Allah, than these ten days (of Dhul-Hijjah) they said: They said: not even Jihad in the path of Allah? He said not even Jihad in the path of Allah, except if a man goes out (for Jihad) with his self and his wealth, then he doesn’t return with anything from that.” (Tirmidhi)

    And based on that noble Hadith
    In fasting, dhikr, reading the Qur’an, increasing the salah, giving charity/sadaqah and to be good towards the creature and other than that.
    Which brings one closer to Allah the Almighty and Exalteted? Because a good deed in those 10 days is better than the deeds done during the last 10 days of Ramadhan. Because the Prophet, peace be upon him, generalized ( in his statement) confirming the word ‘min’ (any “days”).

    “There aren’t any days greater, or any days in which deeds done in them are more deloved to Allah, than these tend days (of Dhul-Hijjah)”

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    MASHALLAH very informative discussion

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    it is too lengthy but informative, thanks

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    Brother Ismail,

    Firstly jazakallah for all the information and support you have provided on these forums, i think it is brilliant what you are doing and may Allah reward abduntley for all your help.

    I dont know if you have answered this before in any other forums, but me and my wife are planning on travelling for Hajj this year, we fly into jeddah, and then have a flight booked from Jeddah to Madinah, as this is where we will go first. What is the process at that airport in this circumstance? do we still get processed by United in jeddah or do we wait till we get to madinah before that happens? Will my passports be taking off me in Jeddah or in madinah, just seem to be a little confusing, also can i get my own personal taxi from madinah airport to my hotel?

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    Re: Hajj process

    Salam,

    Jazakallah.

    InshaAllah I will answer.

    However, can you remove this post from the "sticky" on haj process and re-post it by starting a new thread?

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    Re: Hajj process

    First of all this is an excellent thread and very informative.

    Given that it has been almost five years since it was written, is the process still the same now or have things changed?

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    Re: Hajj process

    Quote Originally Posted by asifali005 View Post
    For those who have a deep desire to visit the house of Allah and just suppressing this deep desire due to the expenses likely to occur on this Holy voyage, Hajj packages 2015 London are the best deal.
    This is a HAJ PROCESS STICKY and not a marketing thread.

    Please delete your post and start a new thread elsewhere.

    MODs. Please note of the continuous abuse by posters of this sticky and delete all such posts especially the ones that are selling their services.

    The sticky's objective is to assist pilgrims to understand the process of umra and haj.

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    Its very important to attend Hajj and Umrah classes. Classes will guide attendees as to the general rulings and methods of the pilgrimage, lectures and practicals will help the aspects. Many online books available on internet for Hajj and Umrah information, Rafiq-ul-Haramayn is guide book for Hajj & Umrah is composed by Ameer-e-ehle sunnat organizer of Dawat-e-islami. The substance are extricated from authentic books, which are effectively understandable. Click here Rafiq-ul-Haramayn

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    Re: Hajj process

    Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

    Very useful post for those want to perform Hajj.

    jazakumullahu khairan- May Allah reward you all well

    J

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    Thanks for sharing. JazakAllah!

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    Re: Hajj process

    Quote Originally Posted by sanajameel View Post
    The main thing that is worth mentioning that International Link Tours had delivered everything they had promised that I couldn’t complain. Compared to other people who went on the same year, but with different companies had suffered a great deal, for those people who want to perform hajj with ease of mind I would highly recommend International Link Tours.

    Hajj Pilgrimage
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    Please post your sales pitch elsewhere and delete the comment above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ismail Simjee View Post
    This is a sticky on Haj process and not for recommending or marketing haj packages.

    Please post your sales pitch elsewhere and delete the comment above.
    Thank you, MODs, for removing the irrelevant posts from the sticky.

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    Re: Hajj process

    Quote Originally Posted by IbnK View Post
    First of all this is an excellent thread and very informative.

    Given that it has been almost five years since it was written, is the process still the same now or have things changed?
    Jazakallah Khair, IbnK, and I agree it should be updated.

    There has been changes.

    Three new haj licenses were issued last year and seven new ones this year. This increases UK haj quota by 1500 as each company has 150 quotas.

    The 20% reduction, in existing quota, is still in place as is the 5 year rule on Haj.

    It is anticipated that a further 20 new haj license will be issued to UK companies next year.

    With the removal of the 20% quota and addition of new companies, UK's Haj Pilgrims are anticipated to total around 20,000 this year and 27,500 next year.

    There are no material changes that will affect the hujjajs but substantial changes that does to Haj companies globally.

    Last year they removed the Haj Drafts to be attached to the passports and issued a barcode in its place. That reduced the processing time for haj traffic at the arrival airports. This year that barcode too is removed as is the barcode (stickers) that are adhered inside the passports. This removal addresses the dis-crepancies of missing barcodes and also address some abuse by fraudulent operators.

    Hujjajs are not allowed, this year, to leave Makkah before end of 16 Zul Hajj. Originally, this prohibition was directed at only those returning to their overseas homes. But the prohibition was extended to cover all hujjajs, excepting the locals and those from the GCC countries, early last week.

    The impact of this prohibition is serious on the early returners hoping to fly back home by 14 Zul Haj and return to work the following day. They are delayed by three days extra stay in Makkah. They wont be allowed even to move to Jedda as some tour operators such as Dar Salam of USA and Al Hidaya of UK do.

    Further, it also affects those who aspired to visit Madina for just two or three days on 14 Zul Haj and catch their flight back home by end of 16 Zul Haj. They wont be allowed to travel out of Makka to Madina before beginning of 17 Zul Haj. For such Hujjajs the option is return back home on 17 Zul Haj without visiting Madina or, else, to get just a couple of hours to pop into Masjid-e-Nabavi for the salutation and off to Madina airport to board their flights.

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    Re: Hajj process

    CORRECTION.

    Barcodes are still in use for Muslim Europa this year.

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    Re: Hajj process

    Quote Originally Posted by Ismail Simjee View Post
    CORRECTION.

    Barcodes are still in use for Muslim Europa this year.
    Are you talking about the small barcode with the matawaf number written on it or are you talking about big stickers they stick inside the passport when we arrive at Hajj terminal

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    how can it seem to be real n worthy??

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    Thank you so much for this very informative thread mashallah.

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    Thanks for sharing this information with us. very useful information and god to know information.

    Thanks Again
    Jasmin Khan

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    I always enjoy your column and articles. You have a gift for discussing these types of topics interactions in truthful yet amusing ways. It seems I can always identify experiences in my own family with those you describe. Your articles help us realize that real issues and remain typical, and we can find out the ways in them as constructive ways.

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    Salam!

    pilgrimage (Hajj) is the fifth pillar of Islam. This pillar is obligatory for every Muslim, male or female, provided that he/she is physically and financially able to do so.

    Thanks for sharing such a great thread.

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    Assalam-O-Alaikum,

    In Pakistan the Hajj process is managed by ministry of religious affairs.
    Every adult Muslim (male or female) who has the physical and financial means is required to travel to Mecca to perform the Hajj once in his or her lifetime. In Mecca, Muslims from all over the world gather in a display of faith, unity, and solidarity by recreating the ritual that the prophet Muhammad performed in his last pilgrimage.

    Thanks for sharing.

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    Hassan Gilani

    My favourite Hajj Guide
    https://guidetohajj.wordpress.com

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    Re: Hajj process

    Since Hajj is a once-in-a-lifetime experience for most people, the importance of early and adequate preparation cannot be over-emphasized. There is a considerable investment of money, time, and physical effort required for the Pilgrimage to be fulfilling and meaningful. Information has to be collected, itineraries must be worked out, and documents have to be readied. The purpose of these preparations is not only to minimize physical discomfort, emotional aggravation and monetary expenses, but also to enable you to perform Hajj in relative peace of heart and mind. Therefore, it makes sense to be as ready as possible for this momentous journey of self-discovery, self-appraisal, and spiritual enlightenment.

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    Masha Allah good information thanks for providing this knowledge ...............................

 

 

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