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    South Africa: Idols show forbidden, council tells Muslims

    October 07 2003 at 02:39PM
    By Staff Reporter

    The Muslim Judicial Council has declared the Idols talent show forbidden - the day after city Muslim stars Nazneen Leeman and her cousin Wafeeq Saffodien were voted off.

    The MJC's first deputy president, Sheikh Ihsaan Hendricks, said in a statement on Tuesday that it had no other alternative but to express the Islamic position regarding the show and declared it "forbidden (haraam) in Islam".

    It cited "the nakedness and indecent exposure of the participants; the immoral lyrics of songs and the use of venues such as casinos, rave clubs, dance arenas".

    The MJC said that for these reasons and others, Muslims should not participate in Idols or any other show of that nature.

    In his statement, Hendricks said: "Islam allows moderate forms of entertainment and recreation.

    "Muslims throughout the world enjoy celebrations on festive occasions and at times of relaxation.

    "Concerning the Idols talent show, the MJC has no alternative but to express the Islamic position regarding these activities: This type of show is forbidden (haraam) in Islam."

    Since the start of the show Nazneen, 17, and Wafeeq, 18, have been the subject of hot debate in the Muslim community - divided between those who have cheered and those who have jeered the teenagers.

    Nazneen, in particular, had been the focus of discussion, as many Muslims viewed her choice of outfits for the show as undesirable.

    They argue that in Islam it is incumbent on Muslims, on reaching puberty, to adhere to a specified public dress code. For women this means covering from head to toe, and for men from the navel to the knees.

    Others have argued that at 17, Nazneen is still young and should not be scrutinised or judged too harshly.

    In some quarters people felt it was un-Islamic for Muslims to participate in a show that ostensibly promoted Western pop culture.

    On Monday, asked about the MJC stand on the show, Hendricks said: "Up until recently, I did not even know what Idols was. The MJC denies that we spoke to Die Kaapse Son."

    But the MJC finally decided to issue a statement on Tuesday.

    In an Internet poll by Muslim community radio station Voice of the Cape, 65.6 percent of respondents were unhappy with Muslims participating in Idols; 18.8 percent supported Nazneen and Wafeeq; and 15.6 percent were undecided.

    Programme chief Achmat Rylands said the station had fielded many calls on the issue. These had also reflected a mixed sentiment.

    Nazneen's father, Toyer Leeman, speaking hours before his daughter was voted off the show, said his family had had "no pressure" from the Muslim community about her taking part or her manner of dress.

    "If there is anyone out there who has a problem, they should come to me."

    He had made sure his daughter would be exempted from performing in the month of Ramadaan.

    In an interview with Voice of the Cape, Nazneen and Wafeeq said they were committed Muslims.

    Nazneen said: "I believe as a Muslim you can do everything in the right time and place ... I make my salaah (prayers) and make sure I don't forget where I come from."

    Wafeeq said: "My father is a muallim (Muslim teacher), so is my mother and I am a committed Muslim. That makes it easy to remember I am a Muslim and I often speak to Nazneen to remind ourselves of that."

    This article was originally published on page 1 of The Cape Argus on October 07, 2003

    http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?click...30065&set_id=1

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    The proper Islamic way tells us don't judge even the Idols show

    October 20, 2003

    To my "Practising Muslim" (October 16) brother/sister, I also agree with the Muslim Judicial Council in condemning the Idols show.

    However, as a non-judgmental, practising Muslim, I am aware of the fundamental teachings of Islam, and I am amazed at the velocity of your tongue. You say you are a practising Muslim, yet you dare to defile the Muslim community of Cape Town because of a young lady's choice to perform on TV, for which she will one day be held accountable. Were you perhaps watching the haraam TV to see her commit adultery with the body parts that you named?


    Have you walked lately in Chatsworth or Phoenix to see our brothers and sisters selling themselves for drugs, and are you aware of the number of our Muslim brothers/sisters in Durban who have Aids, have had abortions and committed adultery - and let's not forget the corruption and fraud.

    So, before you become God's advocate on earth, take a closer look at yourself and judge not, in the proper Islamic way.


    Offended Muslim woman
    Cape Town

    http://www.dailynews.co.za/index.php...ticleId=264594

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    Good for them. I think more Muslims should stand up and condemn this garbage which has nothing in common with Islam.


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    They should mind their own business.
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    Originally posted by fides
    They should mind their own business.


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    a big hoe-ha about nothing.

    Most of the people i know don't even watch SA idols.
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    The Muslim Judicial Council has declared the Idols talent show forbidden - the day after city Muslim stars Nazneen Leeman and her cousin Wafeeq Saffodien were voted off.
    Had the cousins not been voted off, would they have declared the show haram?
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    most pious muslims i know consider t.v. itself haram or at least makruh, to say the least a particular show that exploits the female physique and the naivety of young people.

    i think that what each person has to say about such a show tells you something about how much iman they have- Wallahu Alim.

    its one thing to say that as a personal opinion, you see nothing wrong with the show, its another thing to proclaim that 'as a Muslim' nothing is wrong with the show- Islam has nothing to do with the show, and not recogizing the harm that these shows represent is to do harm to yourself and your family.
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    If you don't want to watch it, then change the channel.

    If nobody watches it, then the show will disappear.
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