little boys dressing up as little girls

[CryingForGaza]

As-Saalam Alaykum.

I guess it is OK,as long as the boy doesnt start impersonating a girl in other ways. But it may seem cute. I did not vote and will not unless I give my reason,insha'Allaah.

Btw,who is "mA"?

mA - Masha'Allah

[fisabilillah]

I haven't seen little boys have a tendency to dress up as girls-they usually go for action figures, doctors, firemen, builders.
I wouldn't let my son dress up as a girl. The boys can do roll play and be something else, not a girl.

[shaquille20]

A male wearing pink is gay also?

I second that... Parents should discourage their sons from wearing pink and stick to only Male colours.. such as black (not the goth type).. and blue perhaps.

[Pippin1376]

I second that... Parents should discourage their sons from wearing pink and stick to only Male colours.. such as black (not the goth type).. and blue perhaps.

Wha? What is wrong with a man wearing pink? Subhanallah, the official gay colour is the rainbow (when you see the rainbow flag, it's usually to support homosexuality) not pink. Pink is fine and if a man wishes to wear it and not over do it, then I don't see the harm. Pink/Red use to be a man colour not too long ago.

[Khanurani]

Ther's no such thing as "male colours" or "gay colours".
all colours are the colours of God.
So if men can't dress in pink, then girls shouldn't be able to dress in blue.
should they?

[Pippin1376]

Ther's no such thing as "male colours" or "gay colours".
all colours are the colours of God.
So if men can't dress in pink, then girls shouldn't be able to dress in blue.
should they?

The rainbow coloured flag was adopted by the homosexual party, that's why I said rainbow colour since it's seen as something for them.

There is a double standard when it come to women, they can wear any colour and not be seen as manish. (Maybe in some cases, but not all) Yet if a man wears pink, then he's questionable.

[.: Anna :.]

its more the style of the clothes than the colour really?
each shouldn't wear clothes that are blatantly aimed at the opposite gender
but if its clearly a man's thing and its pink, can't really say its imitating women or a gay item. may not be some people's taste but shouldn't be classed as 'wrong'

[Peacenik]

I haven't seen little boys have a tendency to dress up as girls-they usually go for action figures, doctors, firemen, builders.
I wouldn't let my son dress up as a girl. The boys can do roll play and be something else, not a girl.

Well said, Sister.

I second that... Parents should discourage their sons from wearing pink and stick to only Male colours.. such as black (not the goth type).. and blue perhaps.

Yep

Ther's no such thing as "male colours" or "gay colours".
all colours are the colours of God.
So if men can't dress in pink, then girls shouldn't be able to dress in blue.
should they?

Not true, I'm afraid.

If certain colours are associated with women, then it's impermissible for men to wear those coloured clothes.

It's widely accepted that pink (as well as other colours, depending on culture), is designated for women.

[GuCcI]

I'd discourage it

Know someone who dressed up in a saree once, got enough stick for it!...for years!

was it you? cuz I did that to my little brother once... he was 4

[aG123]

I posed this question to A Student Knowledge and Ustahd In his own right in Saudi,Madinah. IF it was permissible to dress up a child *boy* into a girl or visa versa.. he said it was not allowed and Shayul Islam Ibn Taymiyah has statements on the parents being accountable for the childs actions or something so would be for making them imitate the opposite gender....In short its not allowed to be done..
Internet there is really bad so when I get the email with the full explanation translated ill post it inshaAllah...

[dhakiyya]

I posed this question to A Student Knowledge and Ustahd In his own right in Saudi,Madinah. IF it was permissible to dress up a child *boy* into a girl or visa versa.. he said it was not allowed and Shayul Islam Ibn Taymiyah has statements on the parents being accountable for the childs actions or something so would be for making them imitate the opposite gender....In short its not allowed to be done..
Internet there is really bad so when I get the email with the full explanation translated ill post it inshaAllah...

This wasn't the question though, I don't think anyone is talking about parents dressing a child up as the wrong gender, which of course is and will confuse a child

we're talking about little kids (like age 2-4) who, when they are playing "make believe" games, pretend to be an opposite gender character or who dress themselves in opposite gender clothes as dressing up (of their own choice and just for fun)

[LoveLightPeace]

If my boy wanted to wear a pink skirt then I would let him. I would want to talk to him about it to find out why. If my girl wanted to wear something masculine then I would do the same.

It has been said that morals are the prejudices a person has collected by age 18. Do you think a boy wearing a skirt would make Allah angry?

I can think of many things that are more important than dress. Could this be a preoccupation with Muslim people?

[.: Anna :.]

sometimes they just like the colour, it may be nothing more to it than that? i guess by 4 they may have got the idea that pink is generally seen as a "girls" thing but stil maybe they just are attracted to the colour?
like my little boy (nearly 1.5) was @ this group and they let them have a choice what bowl or whatever they want, so they showed him a blue and a pink one and he v quickly grabbed the pink he just likes the look of it, no reason why they can't like it. girls are allowed 2 like both pink and blue so y not for boys. when they become a bit older and see mainly girls have it they may go off it, but even if they don't who cares as long as they dont actually want to think of themselves as a girl or take it to ne kind of extreme.

[aG123]

This wasn't the question though, I don't think anyone is talking about parents dressing a child up as the wrong gender, which of course is and will confuse a child

we're talking about little kids (like age 2-4) who, when they are playing "make believe" games, pretend to be an opposite gender character or who dress themselves in opposite gender clothes as dressing up (of their own choice and just for fun)

Sorry. Im sure someone said something about if the parents would be accountable if they dressed them- maybe i got confused ok Ignore Post- you can delete it it.

[Peacenik]

If my boy wanted to wear a pink skirt then I would let him. I would want to talk to him about it to find out why. If my girl wanted to wear something masculine then I would do the same.

It has been said that morals are the prejudices a person has collected by age 18. Do you think a boy wearing a skirt would make Allah angry?

Please take this (authentic) Hadith into consideration :

Allah curses those men who imitate the women, and He curses those women who imitate the men.

[Al-Bukhari]

[LoveLightPeace]

I take that hadith into consideration.

I don't agree with it. I think it is my own business if I want to dress up like a woman. I don't dress up like a woman as I have no desire to. If I did have that desire then I would do it. I am not harming anyone if I do such a thing.

I think things like charging usury or pursuing personal wealth are far more sinful than putting on women's clothes.

Please remember that I am a non-Muslim and that I am trying to find my way here.

[ajnabee]

Please take this (authentic) Hadith into consideration :

peacenik, please re-read the original post and understand the question...
for ur convenience, i have quoted it for you >>>

but then again, we know men shouldnt imitate the dress of women! does this apply to little boys? whats the muslim view on this? would u discourage it?

as u can see, and as the thread title may suggest, we're not talking about adult males here, we are talking about young boys.

the hadith u r referring to applies to MEN, not boys. as adults, yes we are accountable for our own deeds but what children do of their own accord, even if it includes boys dressing up as girls, is nothing but innocent play.

as we already know, children are not held accountable by allah, neither are they 'cursed' by allah, as they are born innocent and sinless and remain so, until they reach puberty.

unless u can provide direct proof relating to children imitating the opposite gender, ur argument is baseless right now.

dont get me wrong, i am open to seeing it from the other side because it is something i am generally confused about but really, i am yet to see any solid argument from an islamic perspective by the people in this thread who oppose it.

toodle pips.

[Peacenik]

^^^

JZK, Sister Ajnabee

[dhakiyya]

I take that hadith into consideration.

I don't agree with it. I think it is my own business if I want to dress up like a woman. I don't dress up like a woman as I have no desire to. If I did have that desire then I would do it. I am not harming anyone if I do such a thing.

I think things like charging usury or pursuing personal wealth are far more sinful than putting on women's clothes.

Please remember that I am a non-Muslim and that I am trying to find my way here.

those who charge usury burn in the deepest depths of hell, according to the Qur'an. As for pursuing personal wealth, this is allowed but there are strict rules about how you do it so that one person is not exploiting another and also you have to pay zakat (kind of like a charity tax) on your accumulated wealth, and this goes to the poor, elderly etc. If you don't pay zakat, then your accumulated wealth is haram.

[LoveLightPeace]

As I thought, usury happens all about us. I hope hell has enough room for all those bankers.

[aminah1430]

A little boy wearing a tutu, or other kind of female clothing does not sound appropriate, or even halal for that matter. Same goes for female children as well. I don't even think I would be able to get a little boy to wear girl clothing if I wanted to, they're too interested in boy stuff, like trucks. Heck, my husband won't even wear pink, thank goodness. I hate the idea of a guy wearing pink.

[aiesha_kiwi]

dare I say the word.. No oh ok.. Dish-dasher.

[Koshur]

A little boy wearing a tutu, or other kind of female clothing does not sound appropriate, or even halal for that matter. Same goes for female children as well. I don't even think I would be able to get a little boy to wear girl clothing if I wanted to, they're too interested in boy stuff, like trucks. Heck, my husband won't even wear pink, thank goodness. I hate the idea of a guy wearing pink.

Its a colour, come on people, that is such an old fashioned thing to say!
I wear pink shirts, and trust me there's nothing feminine bout how i look

[Ha:s!]

My son was walking around in my shoes and hair band the other day. Just copying the person he's closest too. A bit of harmless fun at a experimenting age.

[laura786]

Its a colour, come on people, that is such an old fashioned thing to say!
I wear pink shirts, and trust me there's nothing feminine bout how i look

Yeah I think pink is only a colour but not everyone accepts this yet. My brother was beaten up for wearing a pink shirt! I think that only certain men can wear pink and get away with it, e.g. look masculine. I don’t think it is right for little boys to wear girls clothing and vice versa, that is just weird to be honest.

[Koshur]

Yeah I think pink is only a colour but not everyone accepts this yet. My brother was beaten up for wearing a pink shirt! I think that only certain men can wear pink and get away with it, e.g. look masculine. I don’t think it is right for little boys to wear girls clothing and vice versa, that is just weird to be honest.

Damn beaten up for wearin pink, thats a first!
Thats just bullies looking for any excuse, a-holes, i hope u sorted em!

[laura786]

Damn beaten up for wearin pink, thats a first!
Thats just bullies looking for any excuse, a-holes, i hope u sorted em!

Haha well I wasn’t around and my bro is a big boy (23 and 6”6). Think he was in a rough area on a night out so I’m not so surprised but my bro called the police!

[Koshur]

Haha well I wasn’t around and my bro is a big boy (23 and 6”6). Think he was in a rough area on a night out so I’m not so surprised but my bro called the police!

Damn thats some height! lol
Some right idiots around, not safe nowhere nowadays

[ibn idris]

its completely haraam..whats haraam for a man to wear is also haraam for the boys to wear and vice versa with women and young girls..we are to raise our children from the time they are born til death to be upon the sunnah and righteousness inshallah and to Allah is the final return..

[laura786]

Damn thats some height! lol
Some right idiots around, not safe nowhere nowadays

Lol yea it is some height so you can imagine it took a few of them climbing on top of each others’ shoulders to give him a black and fat lip!! Lol! Silly people!

[Naheela]

i used to dress my lill bro up in sparkly scarfs and make up, and we got pics to prove it, and no he is not gay lol
but i dont see anything wrong with it, little kids are little kids let them get on with it and play make believe, if a boy wants to pretend to be mummy whats the problem!

dont tell him i told you

I agree with you. When my son was two an a half he used to dress up in his sisters fairy outfit lmao and my mums silver high heels with her silver handbag round his neck. I took photo! Hes now 6 years old. he wouldn't be seen dead in grils clothes now. I just think its a case of dressing up there no harm in it. There are kids and inoccent. Just playing around. Not saying that I would incourage it though.

[Naheela]

My son was walking around in my shoes and hair band the other day. Just copying the person he's closest too. A bit of harmless fun at a experimenting age.

lol my son is 21 months, he was doing that too lol

[Abu Mus'ab]

It's absolutely totally outrightly haraam

[Abu Mus'ab]

A male wearing pink is gay also?

Yes :|

[Ghost_77]

It is wrong. Simple.

I bet it was mainly the girls here that voted 'nothing wrong with it'.

[Abu Mus'ab]

It is wrong. Simple.

I bet it was mainly the girls here that voted 'nothing wrong with it'.

You're most probably right about that, they feel children look "cute" if they're dressed up as the opposite gender

[dhakiyya]

I wonder how many people who voted in the poll actually understood the question....

it's not about parents dressing kids up in opposite gender clothes...

it's about very small kids (under 3) randomly putting on opposite gender clothes for fun, because they're there, just because they're playing.... so if your TWO YEAR OLD boy put on a dress for five minutes while playing, would you leave him be or sit him down for a long chat about cross dressing (bear in mind that kids don't really undertsand gender/gender roles at this age)

[Abu Mus'ab]

I wonder how many people who voted in the poll actually understood the question....

it's not about parents dressing kids up in opposite gender clothes...

it's about very small kids (under 3) randomly putting on opposite gender clothes for fun, because they're there, just because they're playing.... so if your TWO YEAR OLD boy put on a dress for five minutes while playing, would you leave him be or sit him down for a long chat about cross dressing (bear in mind that kids don't really undertsand gender/gender roles at this age)

Actually the original question was regarding role-play where children have to dress up, that cannot be anything but intentional.

[Ghost_77]

You're most probably right about that, they feel children look "cute" if they're dressed up as the opposite gender

lol. true.

[ajnabee]

I wonder how many people who voted in the poll actually understood the question....

it's not about parents dressing kids up in opposite gender clothes...

it's about very small kids (under 3) randomly putting on opposite gender clothes for fun, because they're there, just because they're playing.... so if your TWO YEAR OLD boy put on a dress for five minutes while playing, would you leave him be or sit him down for a long chat about cross dressing (bear in mind that kids don't really undertsand gender/gender roles at this age)

ur absolutely right, people are just not understanding the question!

Actually the original question was regarding role-play where children have to dress up, that cannot be anything but intentional.

role-play doesnt necessitate dressing up though. role play is when children assume the roles of others, pretending to be mum, dad, spiderman, dragon, etc. n anyway, ur going off on a tangent. n i wasnt referring to a domestic context. in nursery school n reception class u will find role-play areas, usually with a rack of dressing-up clothes should the children want to dress up.

when ur children are at school, its not something that's within ur control. they could be dressing up as little miss muffet or whoever, n u wouldnt have a clue! but the important thing to note is that, its not about the adult that is dressing the child up as dhakiyya rightly clarified, but the fact that these YOUNG children, ma'sum children, who havent even got that understanding, choosing to dress up of their own accord.

i still stick by my previous post for now>>>

peacenik, please re-read the original post and understand the question...
for ur convenience, i have quoted it for you >>>



as u can see, and as the thread title may suggest, we're not talking about adult males here, we are talking about young boys.

the hadith u r referring to applies to MEN, not boys. as adults, yes we are accountable for our own deeds but what children do of their own accord, even if it includes boys dressing up as girls, is nothing but innocent play.

as we already know, children are not held accountable by allah, neither are they 'cursed' by allah, as they are born innocent and sinless and remain so, until they reach puberty.

unless u can provide direct proof relating to children imitating the opposite gender, ur argument is baseless right now.

dont get me wrong, i am open to seeing it from the other side because it is something i am generally confused about but really, i am yet to see any solid argument from an islamic perspective by the people in this thread who oppose it.

toodle pips.