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    Saudi Royal Family and the its Jewish roots?

    THE SAUDI DYNASTY: FROM WHERE IS IT?
    AND WHO IS THE REAL ANCESTOR OF THIS FAMILY?

    RESEARCH AND PRESENTATION OF: MOHAMMAD SAKHER , who was ordered killed by the Saudi Regime for the following findings:

    1. Are the Saudi Family members belonging to the Tribe of ANZA BEN WA'EL as they allege to be?
    2. Is Islam their actual religion?
    3. Are they of an ARAB ORIGIN at all?

    In the year 851 A.H. a group of men from AL MASALEEKH CLAN, which was a branch of ANZA Tribe, formed a caravan for buying cereals (wheat and corn) and other food stuff from IRAQ, and transporting it back to NAJD. The head of that group was a man called SAHMI BIN HATHLOOL. The caravan reached BASRA, where the members of the group went to a cereal merchant who was a Jew, Called MORDAKHAI BIN IBRAHIM BIN MOSHE'. During their bargaining with that merchant, the Jew asked them : "Where are you from?" They answered: "From ANZA TRIBE; a clan of AL MASALEEKH." Upon hearing that name, the Jew started to hug so affectionately each one of them saying that he, himself, was also from the clan of AL MASALEEKH, but he had come to reside in BASRA (IRAQ) in consequence to a family feud between his father and some members of ANZA Tribe.

    After he recounted to them his fabricated narrative, he ordered his servants to load all the camels of the clan's members with wheat, dates and tamman; a remarkable deed so generous that astonished the MASALEEKH men and aroused their pride to find such an affectionate (cousin) in IRAQ- the source of their sustenance; they believed each word he said , and , because he was a rich merchant of the food commodities which they were badly in need, they liked him (even though he was a Jew concealed under the garb of an Arab from AL MASALEEKH clan).

    When the caravan was ready to depart returning to NAJD, that Jewish Merchant asked them to accept his company, because he intended to go with them to his original homeland, NAJD. Upon hearing that from him, they wholeheartedly welcomed him with a very cheerful attitude.

    So that (concealed) Jew reached NAJD with the caravan. In NAJD, he started to promulgate a lot of propaganda for himself through his companions (his alleged cousins), a fact, which gathered around him a considerable number of new supporters; but, unexpectedly, he confronted a campaign of opposition to his views led by SHEIKH SALEH SALMAN ABDULLA AL TAMIMI, who was a Muslem religious preacher in AL-QASEEM. The radius of his preaching area included Najd, Yemen, and Hijaz, a fact which compelled the Jew (the Ancestor of the present SAUDI FAMILY to depart from AL QASEEM to AL IHSA, where he changed his name (MORDAKHAI) To MARKHAN BIN IBRAHIM MUSA. Then he changed the location of his residence and settled at a place called DIR'IYA near AL-QATEEF, where he started to spread among the inhabitants a fabricated story about the shield of our Prophet MOHAMMAD (p.b.u.h), that it was taken as a booty by an Arab Pagan in consequence of OHOD Battle between the Arab pagans and the Muslems. "That shield, he said, was sold by the Arab Pagan to a Jewish Clan called BANU QUNAIQA' who preserved it as a treasure! He gradually enhanced his position among the Bedouins through such stories which indicated how the Jewish clans in Arabia were so influential and deserved high esteem. He gained some personal importance among the Bedouins, and decided to settle permanently there, at DIR'IYA town, near AL QATEEF, which he decided to be his (Capital) on the Persian Gulf. He aspired to make it his spring board for establishing a Jewish Kingdom in Arabia.

    In order to fulfill his ambitious scheme, he started to approach the desert Arab Bedouins for support of his position, them gradually, he declared himself as their king!

    At that juncture, AJAMAN Tribe together with BANU KHALED Tribe became fully aware of that Jewish cunning plan after they had verified his true identity, and decided to put an end to him. They attacked his town and conquered it, but before arresting him he had escaped by the skin of his teeth.

    That Jewish Ancestor of the SAUDI FAMILY, (MORDAKHAI), sought shelter in a farm called at that time AL-MALIBEED-GHUSAIBA near AL-ARID, which is called at our present time : AL-RIYADH.

    He requested the owner of that farm to grant him an asylum. The farmer was so hospitable that he immediately gave him sanctuary. But that Jew (MORDAKHAI), no longer than a month had he stayed there, when he assassinated the land lord and all members of his family, pretending that all were killed by an invading band of thieves. Then he pretended that he had bought that real estate from them before that catastrophe happened to them! Accordingly, he had the right to reside there as a land lord. He then gave a new name to that place: He named it AL-DIRIYA - the same name as that he had lost.

    That Jewish Ancestor of the SAUDI FAMILY (MORDAKHAI), was quick to establish a "GUEST HOUSE" called "MADAFFA" on the land he usurped from his victims, and gathered around him a group of hypocrites who started to spread out false propaganda for him that he was a prominent Arab Sheikh. He plotted against Sheikh SALEH SALMAN ABDULLA AL TAMIMI, his original enemy, and caused his assassination in the mosque of the town called (AL-ZALAFI).

    After that, he felt satisfied and safe to make (AL-DIRIYA) his permanent home. There he practiced polygamy at a wide scale, and indeed, he begot a lot of children whom he gave pure Arab names.

    Eversince his descendants grew up in number and power under the name of SAUDI CLAN, they have followed his steps in practicing under ground activities and conspiracies against the Arab Nation. They illegally seized rural sectors and farm lands, and assassinated every person who tried to oppose their evil plans. They used all kinds of deceit for reaching their goals: they bought the conscience of their dissidents; they offered their women and money to influential people in that area, particularly to those who started to write the true biography of that Jewish Family; they bribed writers of history in order to purify their ignominious history, and make their lineage related to the most prominent Arab Tribes such as RABI'A, ANZA and ALMASALEEKH.

    A conspicuous hypocrite in our era whose name is MOHAMMAD AMIN AL TAMIMI- Director/Manager of the contemporary Libraries of the SAUDI KINGDOM, made up a genealogical tree (FAMILY TREE) for this JEWISH FAMILY (THE SAUDIS), connecting them to our Great Prophet, MOHAMMAD (P.B.U.H) For his false work, he received a reward of 35 (THIRTY FIVE) THOUSAND EYPTIAN POUNDS from the then SAUDI AMBASSADOR TO CAIRO, EGYPT, in the year 1362 AH.- 1943 A.D. The name of that Ambassador is : IBRAHIM AL-FADEL.

    As aforementioned, the Jewish Ancestor of the SAUDI FAMILY, (MORDAKHAI), practiced polygamy by marrying a lot of Arab women and begot many children; his polygamous practice is, at the present time, being carried out " to the letter" by his descendants; they cling to his marital heritage!

    One of MORDAKHAI'S sons called AL-MAQARAN, arabized from the Jewish root (MACK-REN) begot a son called Mohammad, then another son called SAUD, which is the name of the present day SAUDI DYNASTY.

    Descendants of SAUD (the present day SAUDI FAMILY )started a campaign of assassination of the prominent leaders of the Arab Tribes under the pretence that those leaders were apostates; renegading from the Islamic Religion, and deserting their Koranic doctrines; so they deserved the SAUDI condemnation and slaughter!

    In the History Book of the SAUDI FAMILY pages (98-101), their private family historian declares that the SAUDI DYNASTY considers all the people of NAJD blasphemous; so their blood must be shed, their properties confiscated, and their females be taken as concubines; no muslem is authentic in his /her belief unless he/she belongs (affiliates) to the sect of MOHAMMAD BIN ABDUL WAHAB, (whose origins are also Jewish from TURKEY.) His doctrines give authority to the SAUDI FAMILY to destroy the villages with all their inhabitants-males including children, and to sexually assault their women; stab the bellies of the pregnant, and cut off the hands of their children, then burn them! They are further authorized by such a BRUTAL DOCTRINE to plunder all the properties of whom they call renegades (not following their Wahabi Sect).

    Their hideous Jewish Family has, in fact, done all that kind of atrocities in the name of their false religious sect (the Wahabi), which has actually been invented by a Jew so as to sow the seeds of terror in the hearts of people in towns and villages. This Jewish Dynasty has been committing such brutal atrocities eversince 1163 A.H. They have named the whole Arabian Peninsula after their family name (SAUDI ARABIA) as if the whole region is their own personal real estate, and that all other inhabitants are their mere servants or slaves, toiling day and night for the pleasure of their masters (THE SAUDI FAMILY).

    They are completely holding the natural wealth of the country as their own property. If any poor person from the common people raises his/her voice complaining against any of the despotic rules of this Jewish Dynasty, (the Dynasty) cuts off his/her head in the public square. A princess of theirs once visited FLORIDA, USA, with her retinue; she rented 90 (NINETY) Suite rooms in a Grand Hotel for about One Million Dollars a night! Can anyone of their subjects comment about that extravagant event If he/she does, his/her fate is quite known: DEATH WITH THE EDGE OF THE SAUDI SWORD IN THE PUBLIC SQUARE!!!!!!

    Witnesses on the Jewish Ancestry of this Saudi Family:


    In the 1960's the "SAWT AL ARAB" Broadcasting Station in Cairo, Egypt, and the YEMEN Broadcasting Station in SANA'A confirmed the Jewish Ancestry of the SAUDI Family.

    King FAISAL AL-SAUD at that time could not deny his family's kindred with the JEWS when he declared to the WASHINGTON POST on Sept. 17, 1969 stating: "WE, THE SAUDI FAMILY, are cousins of the Jews: we entirely disagree with any Arab or Muslem Authority which shows any antagonism to the Jews; but we must live together with them in peace. Our country (ARABIA) is the Fountain head from where the first Jew sprang, and his descendants spread out all over the world." That was the declaration of KING FAISAL AL-SAUD BIN ABDUL AZIZ!!!!!

    HAFEZ WAHBI, The SAUDI Legal Adviser, mentioned in his book entitled: "THE PENINSULA OF ARABIA" that KING ABDUL AZIZ AL-SAUD, who died in 1953, had said : "Our Message (SAUDI MESSAGE) encountered the opposition of all Arab Tribes; my grandfather, SAUD AWAL, once imprisoned a number of the Sheikhs of MATHEER Tribe; and when another group of the same tribe came to intercede for the release of the prisoners, SAUD AWAL gave orders to his men to cut off the heads of all the prisoners, then, he wanted to humiliate and derogate the interceders by inviting them to eat from a banquet he prepared from the cooked flesh of his victims whose cut off heads he placed on the top of the food platters!! The interceders became so alarmed and declined to eat the flesh of their relatives; and, because of their refusal to eat, he ordered his men to cut off their heads too. That hideous crime was committed by that self imposed king to innocent people whose guilt was their opposition to his most cruel and extremely despotic rules.

    HAFEZ WAHBI, states further that King ABDUL AZIZ AL-SAUD related that bloody true story to the Sheikhs of the MATHEER Tribe, who visited him in order to intercede for their prominent leader at that time, FAISAL AL DARWEESH, who was the king's prisoner. He related that story to them in order to prevent them from interceding for the release of their Sheikh; otherwise, they would face the same fate; He killed the Sheikh and used his blood as an ablution liquid for him just before he stood up for his prayer (after the false sect doctrine of the Wahabi); The guilt of FAISAL DARWEESH at that time was that he had criticized King ABDUL AZIZ AL-SAUD when the king signed the document which the English Authorities prepared in 1922 as a declaration for giving PALESTINE to the Jews; his signature was obtained in the conference held at AL AQEER in 1922.

    That was and still is the system of this Regime of the JEWISH FAMILY (SAUDI FAMILY): All its goals are : plundering the wealth of the country, robbing, falsifying, and committing all kinds of atrocity, iniquity, and blasphemy...........................

    http://islamic-intelligence.blogspot.com/

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    This article was originally published a while back and contains some interesting truths which Ive researched and have come to agree with.
    "The founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammed. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?" Lamartine, Historie de la Turquie, Paris 1854, Vol. 11 pp. 276-277

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    Re: Saudi Royal Family and the its Jewish roots?

    Why does it matter if they have Jewish ancestry? If they're family became Muslim and they're Muslim now than that's all that matters, eh?

    Subhanallah, if you want to hate the Saudi family go ahead, but to use this against them is just weak.
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    Re: Saudi Royal Family and the its Jewish roots?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pippin1376 View Post
    Why does it matter if they have Jewish ancestry? If they're family became Muslim and they're Muslim now than that's all that matters, eh?
    I would agree totally.

    But why murder Mohammad Sakher for his research if it wasn't the truth which he was exposing?

    Also considering their behavior towards momin which they refer to as deviants, can you wholeheartedly brother, say they are themselves Muslims?

    Sexual torture and persecution of the most sincere of momin, is not what God ordained.

    Royals indulging in drugs and alcohol in the land of God wasn't ordained either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pippin1376 View Post
    Subhanallah, if you want to hate the Saudi family go ahead, but to use this against them is just weak.
    I don't hate the Saudi family and I'm sure many in that family are momin (I hope).

    But knowing a little about some of their, not so out in the open, history, helps us to understand the reasons as to why they are where they are and why they do what they do.

    For a start, fighting the Khalifate army regardless of its flaws at the time wasn't the best of moves by one who is perceived to understand the religion better than most.

    And siding with kafir against Muslims rule?
    Well that's just the icing on the cake don't you think?

    Still, Ive better things to do that hate anyone. I know there will be justice in the world soon enough and hate will not bring that any closer.

    But its good to know why they got dealt with, when they get dealt with.
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    Re: Saudi Royal Family and the its Jewish roots?

    What is it with exposing the jewish lineage of muslims lately? We just had a thread about the Iranian president being of jewish background and now this!

    Can you see the implications of threads like these? They imply that we should distrust any muslim who may have come from a jewish background.

    Threads like this should be removed.

    As for the Saudi regime, there are many other regimes that are just as bad (or worse).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sultan View Post
    What is it with exposing the jewish lineage of muslims lately? We just had a thread about the Iranian president being of jewish background and now this!
    Is it not the truth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sultan View Post
    Can you see the implications of threads like these? They imply that we should distrust any muslim who may have come from a jewish background.
    To a certain extent, yes!
    If only the ottomans understood this, their empire would still be alive today. Fake converts were used as a tool to defeat the ottomans from within.

    Rarely will a real revert want to be in the limelight and seldom is their past tainted with controversy with skeletons dangling out of every corner of their closet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sultan View Post
    As for the Saudi regime, there are many other regimes that are just as bad (or worse).
    Most probably with Jewish roots also. Besides, what does this have to do with anything?

    Look up Islam Karimov, his roots and who he rules over....

    One needs to know these things in order to understand what needs to be done by the future generations of Muslims.
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    Re: Saudi Royal Family and the its Jewish roots?

    we hates jew

    we hates arab...

    what next? grow up everyone..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shedy View Post
    we hates jew

    we hates arab...

    what next? grow up everyone..
    We are talking about specific people whose past seem rather revealing.

    Are we not allowed to discuss this?

    Its got nothing to do with hating Jews or Arabs! LOL..

    I hate the actions of certain people but by no means, all of their people.

    No two finger tips of anyone is the same Shedy, even though they may be twins..

    We have to go with what we have an form our own conclusions..So lets not overlook what we have.
    Last edited by Native; 05-10-09 at 02:20 AM.
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    Re: Saudi Royal Family and the its Jewish roots?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pippin1376 View Post
    Why does it matter if they have Jewish ancestry? If they're family became Muslim and they're Muslim now than that's all that matters, eh?

    Subhanallah, if you want to hate the Saudi family go ahead, but to use this against them is just weak.
    Good point...It just goes to show the disease such people have in their own hearts, as if they are free from error and faults.

    You will not be asked about the actions of others...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sultan View Post
    As for the Saudi regime, there are many other regimes that are just as bad (or worse).
    The Saudi regime deserves more hatred than the others. They co-operate with their Zionist Neo-Con partners in Israel (via Washington).

    And on top of that, they're in charge of the 2 Holiest Sites on earth. So they deserve a 100% of the hatred.
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    This is total garbage and crap from those who are jealous and envious towards KSA .

    Allah SWT has chosen who serves and protects the Haramain and Alhamdulilah he chose the best to do so .

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    Quote Originally Posted by al faqeer View Post
    This is total garbage and crap from those who are jealous and envious towards KSA .
    Yes, we're so jeaolus that they're dealing with their Israeli brethren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacenik View Post
    Yes, we're so jeaolus that they're dealing with their Israeli brethren
    Nah you just minority muslims living in the west and trying to judge from hearsay what you have no knowledge of .

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    Quote Originally Posted by al faqeer View Post
    Nah you just minority muslims living in the west and trying to judge from hearsay what you have no knowledge of .
    You say this but unlike a true gentleman, you fail to give us the alternative narrative which you seem somehow to accept but fail to enlighten us with. What is your view on the origins of Saud?
    This is the least you can do.

    We just minority Muslims in the west and this makes us less Muslim than you?
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    I thought the history was that prophit ibrahim had 2 sons, 1 went on to become the israilies and the other went on to become the arabs?
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    the closest thing that one can say is that they are Turkish. this whole khaleeji royal families unveiled thing is getting rather dull. i am sure you guys have better things to do. My experience tells me that apart from shaykh feiz and shaykh anwar Awlaki the layman who discusses this issues knows so little about islam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cityroamer View Post
    the closest thing that one can say is that they are Turkish. this whole khaleeji royal families unveiled thing is getting rather dull. i am sure you guys have better things to do. My experience tells me that apart from shaykh feiz and shaykh anwar Awlaki the layman who discusses this issues knows so little about islam.
    It says:

    RESEARCH AND PRESENTATION OF: MOHAMMAD SAKHER

    This guy was killed for his works so I think it deserves a little attention.
    I'm waiting for opposing ideas with regards to the origins of Saud.

    Btw, imam Awlaki is AWESOME!

    Quote Originally Posted by mashcaster View Post
    I thought the history was that prophit ibrahim had 2 sons, 1 went on to become the israilies and the other went on to become the arabs?
    What you say is true.
    But this has nothing to do with the thread.

    We're looking at the royal familt and their roots. Some claim they have a hidden past, others take them to be their loving protectors..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Native View Post
    It says:

    RESEARCH AND PRESENTATION OF: MOHAMMAD SAKHER

    This guy was killed for his works so I think it deserves a little attention.
    I'm waiting for opposing ideas with regards to the origins of Saud.

    Btw, imam Awlaki is AWESOME!
    It is well known that the Saudis kill if you try and embarrass them this their response to being publicly made fun of as a person who lives in Saudi i suggest you do not discuss the rulers of the land for your own safety when your in their country

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    Quote Originally Posted by Native View Post
    You say this but unlike a true gentleman, you fail to give us the alternative narrative which you seem somehow to accept but fail to enlighten us with. What is your view on the origins of Saud?
    This is the least you can do.

    We just minority Muslims in the west and this makes us less Muslim than you?
    Look it up in Google and not Pro zionist Anti Saudi Websites .

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    Re: Saudi Royal Family and the its Jewish roots?

    wasnt one of the wives of the Prophet a convert from Judaism to Islam??

    when someone has accepted Islam they are muslim, regardless of what religion of faith they followed before.

    at the risk of repeating what someone else has said before:

    Get over it.

    wow people are hating on the Saudi regime for anything and everything possible these days.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Native View Post
    Is it not the truth?



    To a certain extent, yes!
    If only the ottomans understood this, their empire would still be alive today. Fake converts were used as a tool to defeat the ottomans from within.

    Rarely will a real revert want to be in the limelight and seldom is their past tainted with controversy with skeletons dangling out of every corner of their closet.


    Most probably with Jewish roots also. Besides, what does this have to do with anything?

    Look up Islam Karimov, his roots and who he rules over....

    One needs to know these things in order to understand what needs to be done by the future generations of Muslims.
    There are plenty of reverts in the limelight, Yussuf Islam, Yussaf Estes, Mohammed Ali, Malcom X, why would a revert want to be less in the limelight? And Im sure that many Reverts do have skeletons in their closet and have done things they are not proud of before coing to Islam. Also who wnats to be jusdged by their great great grandfathers actions? who cares if someone in your family did sime atrocious thing 50 years ago? thats not you doing it! I dont understand the point of this thread.

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    Teeheehee.
    "The discovery of truth is prevented more effectively, not by the false appearance of things present and which mislead into error, not directly by weakness of the reasoning powers, but by preconceived notions, opinion, and by prejudice." - Arthur Schopenhauer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Native View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Sultan View Post

    Can you see the implications of threads like these? They imply that we should distrust any muslim who may have come from a jewish background.
    To a certain extent, yes!
    You should be ashamed of yourself!


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    السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

    NATIVE.... sorry to say that are not acting less then any "jewish" or those AL SAUD family....
    i feel like you are not true muslim الله اعلم ...you know why??

    because a good muslim always write ALLAHs name before conveying any message....

    i cant even see any salam or bismALLAH

    and secondly a good muslim always hide the defects of other muslim.


    and you wrote:
    In the year 851 A.H. a group of men from AL MASALEEKH CLAN, which was a branch of ANZA Tribe, formed a caravan for buying cereals (wheat and corn) and other food stuff from IRAQ, and transporting it back to NAJD. The head of that group was a man called SAHMI BIN HATHLOOL. The caravan reached BASRA, where the members of the group went to a cereal merchant who was a Jew, Called MORDAKHAI BIN IBRAHIM BIN MOSHE'. During their bargaining with that merchant, the Jew asked them : "Where are you from?" They answered: "From ANZA TRIBE; a clan of AL MASALEEKH." Upon hearing that name, the Jew started to hug so affectionately each one of them saying that he, himself, was also from the clan of AL MASALEEKH, but he had come to reside in BASRA (IRAQ) in consequence to a family feud between his father and some members of ANZA Tribe.


    i belong to a family and its root is from AL ANZA tribe الله اعلم

    So that means you should distrust me??? and my ancestor accepted islam long before....


    lets say that you think that AL SAUD were jewsh but before they were "kafir" so should we say that "distrust them because they were kafir"????

    come on.....grow up ......

    i think all of our ancestors were non-muslims and now we are muslims

    and all i know that AL SAUDs ancestor were not jewish and if they are so they all became muslims>>>>

    and plus to increase in your knowledge the clans of mostly khaleeji people is from AL ANZA tribe .... or i should say half of arabs are from AL ANZA tribe...because it is very large tribe and it have many root...

    so you want us to distrust our own muslim brothers??


    and i am sure this information is 100% wrong

    and many "KAFIR" want us to disunite more and build hater for each other

    AND THIS IS MY ADVICE TO YOU:

    LIVE THEIR PAST AND DONT WORRY FOR THE FUTURE BECAUSE الله IS WATCHING AND NEVER DOUBT BECAUSE THIS WILL MAKE YOUR EMAN LAW.....


    AND PLEASE NEXT TIME DONT POST INFORMATION OF WISH YOU ARE NOT SURE BECAUSE IT IS THE GREATEST "FITNAH" AND MANY "BAD KAFIR" WANT TO SPREAD THIS KIND OF FINAH BETWEEN THE MUSLIMS.


    INSHALLAH we will see your next thread which will be more beneficial and realistic then this 1

    الله يهدينا و يحفظنا من كل الشر و الفتن

    آمين

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    yes, many of the actions of the saudi royal family are unIslamic and worth strong condemnation.

    but seriously, get a life people
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    Re: Saudi Royal Family and the its Jewish roots?

    Perhaps it is worth reminding posters to this thread that the Pashtun, whom many of the Taliban belong, are also descended from Bani Israel!

    Having met jewish reverts, should I distrust them? Of course not!

    Blame the Saudis for many things, but not on basis that they may have descended from a jewish family.

    Would you distrust Isa (as) when he returns just because of his jewish background?
    Last edited by Sultan; 05-10-09 at 10:02 PM.


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    Re: Saudi Royal Family and the its Jewish roots?

    Quote Originally Posted by KeeKee View Post
    yes, many of the actions of the saudi royal family are unIslamic and worth strong condemnation.

    but seriously, get a life people
    السلام عليكم و رحمة الله وبركاته

    who said that our family actions are very islamic???

    we are not perfect but we strive to be 1

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    inshaAllah.

    i think this thread is really stupid and should be closed. safiyya (r.a) used to be a jew and the Prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam was very displeased when someone referred to her as a jewess, maybe people should remember that.
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    Re: Saudi Royal Family and the its Jewish roots?

    Quote Originally Posted by KeeKee View Post


    inshaAllah.

    i think this thread is really stupid and should be closed. safiyya (r.a) used to be a jew and the Prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam was very displeased when someone referred to her as a jewess, maybe people should remember that.
    yes true

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    Re: Saudi Royal Family and the its Jewish roots?

    In the year 851 A.H. a group of men from AL MASALEEKH CLAN, which was a branch of ANZA Tribe, formed a caravan for buying cereals (wheat and corn) and other food stuff from IRAQ, and transporting it back to NAJD. The head of that group was a man called SAHMI BIN HATHLOOL.

    Read Full Article Here

    http://thecurrentaffairs.com/jewish-...om-arabic.html

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    The "Jewish roots" theory is quite irrelevant to the crimes of the Saud agains this ummah anyway.

    Another problem with this theory is that it claims the Jewish ancestor married lots of Arab women and had children...at that point the kids would only be half-jewish and not considered
    Jews by the actual Yahud. Since in order to be a Jew according to their Shariah (Halacha) the mother has to be a Jewess.

    We need to get over this idea that some people (i.e. Jews) are born evil - this is not the case at all.

    All children are born on the fitra, they become what they become based on their upbringing, culture and actions.
    "And remind, for indeed, the reminder benefits the believers"(51:55)


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    Re: Saudi Royal Family and the its Jewish roots?

    salaams to all
    im not a fan of the Saudi royal family or of any royal family.
    that said, i wont be surprised to learn this story and others like it eg.Ahmadinejad are concocted by the hasbara idiots to confuse people and incite them against these rulers/leaders.
    the zionist jews know they are the most hated people on the planet and are hoping that by showing that these rulers/leaders are somehow linked to them, it will provoke the common people into action against their kings & presidents etc
    its another ploy to weaken those countries that they are afraid of.
    jazakallah

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    Anybody here from Saudi Arabia who can post complete information?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msmoorad View Post
    salaams to all
    im not a fan of the Saudi royal family or of any royal family.
    that said, i wont be surprised to learn this story and others like it eg.Ahmadinejad are concocted by the hasbara idiots to confuse people and incite them against these rulers/leaders.
    the zionist jews know they are the most hated people on the planet and are hoping that by showing that these rulers/leaders are somehow linked to them, it will provoke the common people into action against their kings & presidents etc
    its another ploy to weaken those countries that they are afraid of.
    jazakallah
    1. Who or what are the "hasbara idiots" ?

    2. Why would Zionists want to topple their subservient regimes? These regimes are NOT a threat to Israel.
    "And remind, for indeed, the reminder benefits the believers"(51:55)


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    Re: Saudi Royal Family and the its Jewish roots?

    Quote Originally Posted by Native View Post
    THE SAUDI DYNASTY: FROM WHERE IS IT?
    AND WHO IS THE REAL ANCESTOR OF THIS FAMILY?

    RESEARCH AND PRESENTATION OF: MOHAMMAD SAKHER , who was ordered killed by the Saudi Regime for the following findings:

    1. Are the Saudi Family members belonging to the Tribe of ANZA BEN WA'EL as they allege to be?
    2. Is Islam their actual religion?
    3. Are they of an ARAB ORIGIN at all?
    1. Sorry, but who cares what tribe they belong to? Since when does your tribal origin have any bearing on what kind of person you are? An Arab is no better than a non Arab, a white man is no better than a black man... you know the hadeeth. What counts is how close you are to Allah, not what tribe you belong to.

    2. You can't make takfeer on a whole family. The Saudi royal family - Aal Sa3ud - numbers thousands. A qualified person can make takfeer on individual members of the family, if said members actions and beliefs warrant it, although they need to be very sure of themselves otherwise they'll be putting themselves out of Islam.

    3. An Arab is no better than a non Arab.

    By all means criticise the leaders/royal families/kings of countries, and question their words and actions.... but to disparage them because of their racial origin is just wrong.





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    Does it matter if the Saudis trace back their genealogy to Zoroastrians or Aryans or Mongols or Dravidians or Anglo-saxons ?
    Where there are no Ulemah(Scholars) there are many Muftis.

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    Re: Saudi Royal Family and the its Jewish roots?

    i think i read that u have to be from the banu hashim tribe to be king/caliph ... right?




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    Re: Saudi Royal Family and the its Jewish roots?

    The Sauds have their origin in present day Kuwait , dont think they are from the Banu Hashim but the Jordan royals claim to be from the Banu Hashim.

    Allahualam.
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    Re: Saudi Royal Family and the its Jewish roots?

    Quote Originally Posted by Native View Post
    1. Are the Saudi Family members belonging to the Tribe of ANZA BEN WA'EL as they allege to be?
    2. Is Islam their actual religion?
    3. Are they of an ARAB ORIGIN at all?
    I'm not even going to read this, because of the ridiculous questions above.

    1. .....
    2. If they are practicing it, I'd say it is.
    3. Who cares? A lot of Arabs aren't 100% "pure Arab". Just look at Lebanon: A lot of people have European blood. Does that mean they're any less Muslim? No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yassin' View Post
    1. Who or what are the "hasbara idiots" ?

    2. Why would Zionists want to topple their subservient regimes? These regimes are NOT a threat to Israel.
    salaams to all
    hasbara idiots:
    this is a copy & paste job but i think it explains it clearly:
    Hasbara is the Hebrew word for public diplomacy, i.e. the role people outside of government can have to spread pro-Israel messages and attack Israel's critics. It is a tried and tested propaganda method long relayed not only by Israeli citizens, but also pro-Israel lobbies (e.g. AIPAC), pro-Israel Jewish community groups (e.g. CRIF) and pro-Israel think tanks (e.g. WINEP). With the advent of the web, pro-Israel groups working in tandem with Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs has conducted an often successful and often intensive hasbara effort targeting bloggers. This has included, for instance, efforts to leave comments in blog posts regarding Israel to defend the Israeli perspective.

    another site:
    The word Hasbara means "explanation" in Hebrew. In actual English usage, it refers to the efforts by the Israeli government, pro-Israel pundits and a considerable bunch of useful idiots (mostly bloggers) to justify Israel's behavior and slander the Palestinians, the Arabs in general, and, if necessary, the 1.3 billion followers of the Muslim faith.

    Hasbara employs the usual techniques of all propaganda efforts: half-truths, decontextualized quotes, false claims made in the cynical hope that the readers won't bother to check them out, invalid analogies, and so on and so forth. One of its procedures is to tell a lie enough times that people will begin to believe it's true. Just like Goebbels did. Oh, I'm mentioning a Nazi in some vague connection with Israel; I'm an antisemite. By the way, the default method of Hasbara is calling all critics of Israel antisemites.
    these hasbara idiots are found on nearly every islamic, political & conspiracy theory forums.

    regarding toppling the puppet regimes:
    with the current climate of unrest, the zionists are not too sure whether they will still have control of the arab countries they currently have influence over. they are trying to stir things up in the hope of using a civilian war etc as an excuse to send NATO & other "peacekeeping troops" into these lands so that they can be assured of even more control over the natural resources that they have their eyes on.
    this is just my opinion from what im seeing happen in arab lands currently.

    and Allah ta'ala knows best
    jazakallah
    Last edited by msmoorad; 10-03-11 at 09:23 PM.

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    Re: Saudi Royal Family and the its Jewish roots?

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Malaika~ View Post
    I'm not even going to read this, because of the ridiculous questions above.

    1. .....
    2. If they are practicing it, I'd say it is.
    3. Who cares? A lot of Arabs aren't 100% "pure Arab". Just look at Lebanon: A lot of people have European blood. Does that mean they're any less Muslim? No.
    salaams to all
    irrespective of who or what they are, the ibn Saud family are NOT in power through a democratic election or mashwera.
    please read the ffg article:
    http://www.surrenderingislam.com/sur.../end-caliphate
    thers also a thread on ummah regarding this:
    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthrea...Ottomon-Empire)
    heres something from Youtube:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HAA4w57Q44

    and Allah ta'ala knows best
    jazakallah

 

 

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