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    Asslam-aleikum,

    Those who know me and following my previous threads, know that i am in the midst of starting my career. Just for a revival, i have recently completed my MBA and i am a born again Muslim (3 yrs ago). Now after completion of MBA, i find that it is very difficult to get a 100% Halal job in the corporate sector. I am very confused and very tensed over my career. I did my MBA in Human Resource and Information Technology but due to circumstances i can't go in either of the stream. HR Person has to do Payroll management which includes writing down Riba in the form of Employee provident fund and employee schemes. Regarding IT, i don't have any background in IT except my MBA degree so i can't get core IT jobs like IT project associate, what i am getting are marketing jobs for IT companies. I don't want to opt for marketing jobs because of the below given reasons : -

    I have always a geek and IT person(except programming), i love to do things technically but i don't have any degree in IT. I want to go into Hardware, Networking and System Admin domain

    My parents are telling to get a lecturer job in some MBA college for teaching HR subjects. My i never had a interest in HR, i just took it in my MBA because i had no other choice.

    Anyway, coming to my original question. Please guide me which career i should go for (i have my keen interest in IT - Anyone from System Admin, Network Admin side ? ) And these are career which are totally Haram or contain Haram content in it

    Please help me brothers and sisters. I am very desperate.

    Notes

    • I have not included the clause of mixing of sexes but that is next to impossible if you are living anywhere in the world outside KSA (or maybe some parts of Iran)
    • I have not included Haram transactions (for eg. It is Haram to sell any goods which you don’t personally possess)
    • Please keep on adding Haram Jobs in this list
    I have taken the Help of Islamqa.com to compile this list
    • The key principle of this is this Ayaat and Hadith

    “Help you one another in Al-Birr and At-Taqwa (virtue, righteousness and piety); but do not help one another in sin and transgression. And fear Allaah. Verily, Allaah is Severe in punishment”

    al-Maa’idah 5:2

    AND

    Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever calls others to guidance will have a reward like the rewards of those who follow him, without that detracting from their reward in any way. And whoever calls others to misguidance will have a burden of sin like the burden of those who follow him, without that detracting from their burden in any way.” Narrated by Muslim in his Saheeh (4832).

    1. Working in Riba based BFSI (Banking, Financial Services and Insurance) sector in any department and in any profile.
    2. Media organizations where the content is Haram and/or the Advertisments are Haram
    3. Working in Alcohol companies or breweries
    4. Waiter in Five star Restaurants where he or she has to serve alcohol
    5. Chef who has to include pork or alcohol while making dishes
    6. An HR person who has to do payroll management because it includes writing and becoming witness of Riba based transaction in the form of Employee Provident Fund (EPF) and Employee insurance Schemes
    7. Any job which involves touching or shaking hands with Non-Mehrams
    8. Any job which involves being alone with a Non-Mehram male or female
    9. Singer (singing Haram lyrics and containing prohibited musical instruments)
    10. Actor (relaxation in case where the person is doing something Islamic under the purview of Sharia)
    11. Dancer
    12. Musician
    13. Director (of Haram Movies)
    14. Producer (of Haram Movies)
    15. Marketing Professional (who does marketing of Haram Products and services)
    16. Marketing Professional (who does marketing of Halal goods and services but tell lies on a regular basis to lure customers)
    17. A person who takes bribes
    18. An IT person who develops software / designs website / design database for Haram companies for eg. Banks, Media companies, Music Companies, Pornography, Alcohol, Temples, and Churches etc.
    19. A printing press where they Print pictures of Women, Idols of Gods and other harmful material
    20. Selling dresses for women which reveal their Awrah
    21. Selling statutes and idols
    22. Selling magazine, books, posters of Actor and Actresses and other Haram content in it
    23. Civil engineer / architect who helps in designing Banks, Gambling dens, Bars
    24. Working in a software company who primarily deals in Astrological products.
    25. Selling the CDs of Movies and Music (Hollywood – Bollywood)
    26. Selling Video Games (All video games contain music, some even contain vulgarity, profanity and excessive violence)
    27. Selling Music players and music systems (where we are very well aware that the customer will be using to listen to Haraam music)
    28. Selling Dish TV set-top boxes where we know that all the Channels would be Haram Channels
    29. Running a Webhosting service and giving services to everyone, independent to the content of his or her site which would be hosted on our server
    30. People having earning from Google Adsense where they may get revenue from display of Haram Ads
    31. Women working in any job which requires them to remove their Hijaab
    32. Painting / Designing / Selling / Marketing any product or service which would specifically be used by a Church / Temple / Gurudwara / Synagogue etc.
    33. Fighting election and becoming a political person (Minister / Member of Parliament/ Senate) in a Non-Muslim country where the state would be run by man-made laws and ultimate sovereignty would lie in the man-made constitution of that state.
    34. Male doctors treating female patients and vice-versa, unless in case of acute necessity.
    35. Males becoming Gynecologist or obstetrician
    36. Teaching man-made laws on governance and criminal justice
    37. Serving in an Army of a country which ‘specializes’ in killing Innocent Muslims and innocent people of any other faith in general (for Eg. US and Israel)
    38. Printing Clothes with Animated objects on it
    39. Animator working for commercial unIslamic movies (where is animating Animals/Human for purposes other than education Children)
    40. Photographer / Videographer who takes photos of women revealing their awrah

    Please continue adding to this list

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    Re: Mega Thread of Halal and Haram Jobs + Discussion + Solutions

    laptop dancing haram
    carpentery halal

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    Re: Mega Thread of Halal and Haram Jobs + Discussion + Solutions

    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixRising View Post
    laptop dancing haram
    carpentery halal
    What is carpentary ??

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    Re: Mega Thread of Halal and Haram Jobs + Discussion + Solutions

    those who work in haram Burger King type places and Supermarkets

    there needs to be more awareness about working in Haraam places like Supermarkets etc

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    Re: Mega Thread of Halal and Haram Jobs + Discussion + Solutions

    22. Selling magazine, books, posters of Actor and Actresses and other Haram content in it
    How about newspapers? All newspapers today have pictures of actors/models in them.

    34. Male doctors treating female patients and vice-versa, unless in case of acute necessity
    What about the doctors who have set up their own private services? Should they just refuse to see female patients?

    36. Teaching man-made laws on governance and criminal justice
    Does this also mean is it not permissible to study law & work as a lawyer in a country which does not adopt the Shariah laws ?

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    Re: Mega Thread of Halal and Haram Jobs + Discussion + Solutions

    Quote Originally Posted by ~TwinklingStar~ View Post
    How about newspapers? All newspapers today have pictures of actors/models in them.



    What about the doctors who have set up their own private services? Should they just refuse to see female patients?



    Does this also mean is it not permissible to study law & work as a lawyer in a country which does not adopt the Shariah laws ?
    Yes, Newspapers also included.

    Yes, the same rule applies to them
    http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/20460/doctor

    Most of the time Yes,
    http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/42521/lawyer

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    Re: Mega Thread of Halal and Haram Jobs + Discussion + Solutions

    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixRising View Post
    laptop dancing haram
    carpentery halal

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    Re: Mega Thread of Halal and Haram Jobs + Discussion + Solutions

    41. Working at Burger Kings or other Fast Food Restaurants where they serve Pork

    42. Working as Store Manager at a Super Market where they sell Pork, Alcohol and other Haram things

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    Re: Mega Thread of Halal and Haram Jobs + Discussion + Solutions

    like i said in my other thread, we need to ban all pork and alcohol and make it a law ASAP.

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    Re: Mega Thread of Halal and Haram Jobs + Discussion + Solutions

    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixRising View Post
    laptop dancing haram
    lol laptops dance??

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    Re: Mega Thread of Halal and Haram Jobs + Discussion + Solutions

    Quote Originally Posted by khushdost View Post
    What is carpentary ??


    Making furniture (of wood etc...)
    Last edited by Peacenik; 14-06-09 at 08:06 PM.
    'Nor say of anything,"I shall be sure to do so and so tomorrow" without adding, " if Allah (SWT) Wills" (18:23-24)

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    Re: Mega Thread of Halal and Haram Jobs + Discussion + Solutions

    Quote Originally Posted by Peacenik View Post
    Making furniture (of wood etc...)
    Ya i was guessing it but how 'Carpentry' can be Haram ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by khushdost View Post
    Ya i was guessing it but how 'Carpentry' can be Haram ?
    It's not. What makes you think it is, Brother ?
    'Nor say of anything,"I shall be sure to do so and so tomorrow" without adding, " if Allah (SWT) Wills" (18:23-24)

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    Re: Mega Thread of Halal and Haram Jobs + Discussion + Solutions

    Quote Originally Posted by Peacenik View Post
    It's not. What makes you think it is, Brother ?
    No, i was referring to the post of PhoenixRising who said it was Haram. Look above

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    Re: Mega Thread of Halal and Haram Jobs + Discussion + Solutions

    Quote Originally Posted by khushdost View Post
    No, i was referring to the post of PhoenixRising who said it was Haram. Look above
    He said it's halaal.

    Read it again
    'Nor say of anything,"I shall be sure to do so and so tomorrow" without adding, " if Allah (SWT) Wills" (18:23-24)

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    [edit] Oops.. posted in wrong thread.

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    Re: Mega Thread of Halal and Haram Jobs + Discussion + Solutions

    Quote Originally Posted by Peacenik View Post
    He said it's halaal.

    Read it again
    Oh ya, i overlooked it.

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    Re: Mega Thread of Halal and Haram Jobs + Discussion + Solutions

    Quote Originally Posted by khushdost View Post

    1. Working in riba based bfsi (banking, financial services and insurance) sector in any department and in any profile.

    avoid working in the banking sector.



    2. Media organizations where the content is haram and/or the advertisments are haram


    avoid advertising and the media sector.

    3. Working in alcohol companies or breweries

    avoid the hotel and catering sector.

    4. Waiter in five star restaurants where he or she has to serve alcohol
    5. Chef who has to include pork or alcohol while making dishes

    6. An hr person who has to do payroll management because it includes writing and becoming witness of riba based transaction in the form of employee provident fund (epf) and employee insurance schemes

    avoid the finance sector.

    7. Any job which involves touching or shaking hands with non-mehrams

    avoid public service, sales and service sector.


    8. Any job which involves being alone with a non-mehram male or female

    avoid females in the work place.


    9. Singer (singing haram lyrics and containing prohibited musical instruments)
    10. Actor (relaxation in case where the person is doing something islamic under the purview of sharia)
    11. Dancer
    12. Musician
    13. Director (of haram movies)
    14. Producer (of haram movies)

    no to movie and music industry.

    15. Marketing professional (who does marketing of haram products and services)
    16. Marketing professional (who does marketing of halal goods and services but tell lies on a regular basis to lure customers)

    avoid sales and marketing sector.



    17. A person who takes bribes

    avoid having a policital career or a public servant


    18. An it person who develops software / designs website / design database for haram companies for eg. Banks, media companies, music companies, pornography, alcohol, temples, and churches etc.

    apply for a job at ummah.com

    19. A printing press where they print pictures of women, idols of gods and other harmful material
    20. Selling dresses for women which reveal their awrah
    21. Selling statutes and idols

    22. Selling magazine, books, posters of actor and actresses and other haram content in it

    avoid the retailing sector. Don't run a shop.

    23. Civil engineer / architect who helps in designing banks, gambling dens, bars

    umm 50/50, take on govt. Projects if your a engineer/architect.


    24. Working in a software company who primarily deals in astrological products.
    25. Selling the cds of movies and music (hollywood – bollywood)
    26. Selling video games (all video games contain music, some even contain vulgarity, profanity and excessive violence)
    27. Selling music players and music systems (where we are very well aware that the customer will be using to listen to haraam music)
    28. Selling dish tv set-top boxes where we know that all the channels would be haram channels

    again avoid running or working in a retail shop.


    29. Running a webhosting service and giving services to everyone, independent to the content of his or her site which would be hosted on our server
    30. People having earning from google adsense where they may get revenue from display of haram ads

    avoid the web development of i.t


    31. Women working in any job which requires them to remove their hijaab

    can't think of a response


    32. Painting / designing / selling / marketing any product or service which would specifically be used by a church / temple / gurudwara / synagogue etc.

    for the third time, don't run a shop.


    33. Fighting election and becoming a political person (minister / member of parliament/ senate) in a non-muslim country where the state would be run by man-made laws and ultimate sovereignty would lie in the man-made constitution of that state.

    avoid politics.

    34. Male doctors treating female patients and vice-versa, unless in case of acute necessity.

    Don't work at a hospital or a surgury, consider being a doctor at a men sports club

    35. Males becoming gynecologist or obstetrician

    no


    36. Teaching man-made laws on governance and criminal justice

    avoid the teaching sector all together.


    37. Serving in an army of a country which ‘specializes’ in killing innocent muslims and innocent people of any other faith in general (for eg. Us and israel)

    avoid the the armed forces.

    38. Printing clothes with animated objects on it
    39. Animator working for commercial unislamic movies (where is animating animals/human for purposes other than education children)
    40. Photographer / videographer who takes photos of women revealing their awrah

    don't work in the entertainment industry.

    please continue adding to this list


    You can use your MBA to become a:

    - Carpenter
    - Plumber
    - Builder
    Basically work in the construction industry. Become a I.T contracter so you choose the environment you want to work in.

    You can work in I.T with computers like:

    - 1st/2nd Line technical support or remote assistance
    - Network Administrator
    - Programmer or if your poor at that then web scripting (PHP developer, Java designer)

    Again be a contracter/consultant so you are not tied down to a environment in where females can corrupt you.

    You can work in farming.
    - Farmer
    - Cattle herder
    - Laborer on the land
    -Fishman

    Work with animals.

    etc. etc.

    The list is endless.

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    Re: Mega Thread of Halal and Haram Jobs + Discussion + Solutions

    Fisherman. Thats a good job

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    Re: Mega Thread of Halal and Haram Jobs + Discussion + Solutions

    Quote Originally Posted by OldSkool View Post
    You can use your MBA to become a:

    - Carpenter
    - Plumber
    - Builder
    Basically work in the construction industry. Become a I.T contracter so you choose the environment you want to work in.

    You can work in I.T with computers like:

    - 1st/2nd Line technical support or remote assistance
    - Network Administrator
    - Programmer or if your poor at that then web scripting (PHP developer, Java designer)

    Again be a contracter/consultant so you are not tied down to a environment in where females can corrupt you.

    You can work in farming.
    - Farmer
    - Cattle herder
    - Laborer on the land
    -Fishman

    Work with animals.

    etc. etc.

    The list is endless.
    Is this Sarcastic or Genuine ?

    Anyway, I am planning to go into IT field and giving CompTIA A+ Certification exam after 3 weeks

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    Re: Mega Thread of Halal and Haram Jobs + Discussion + Solutions

    Is this Sarcastic or Genuine ?

    A bit of both, sorry no offense.




    Anyway, I am planning to go into IT field and giving CompTIA A+ Certification exam after 3 weeks


    If you had already made your decision to go into the field of I.T, why did you ask some random strangers on a internet forum this:

    Please guide me which career i should go for



    Anyway how can spend all that money and get a MBA and now interested in doing now A+?

    I used to be a freelance Multimedia Developer (html,css,flash,director,php etc) and i learnt more from self help books and through experience then meaningless certifications.

    If you want to break into I.T specially the technical side, get yourself a job as a desktop analyst and then work yourself up.

    I gave up on I.T 3 years ago and now work as a Territory Manager in the FMCG sector.

    Last edited by OldSkool; 14-06-09 at 10:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSkool View Post
    Is this Sarcastic or Genuine ?

    A bit of both, sorry no offense.




    Anyway, I am planning to go into IT field and giving CompTIA A+ Certification exam after 3 weeks


    If you had already made your decision to go into the field of I.T, why did you ask some random strangers on a internet forum this:

    Please guide me which career i should go for



    Anyway how can spend all that money and get a MBA and now interested in doing now A+?

    I used to be a freelance Multimedia Developer (html,css,flash,director,php etc) and i learnt more from self help books and through experience then meaningless certifications.

    If you want to break into I.T specially the technical side, get yourself a job as a desktop analyst and then work yourself up.

    I gave up on I.T 3 years ago and now work as a Territory Manager in the FMCG sector.

    No offense but it seems u have some attitude (as if i am forcing you to answer my queries). I never said i have 'decided' to go into IT but i said i am 'planning' to do it.

    Before enrolling in MBA, i was not aware of the job profile of a HR person. It was only in my last semester that I read on Islamqa.com that even HR jobs are Haram
    http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/107144/mba

    Moreover, circumstances lead me to do MBA and during the course of study, i gradually made my mind to dwell into the career of Human Resource. But it was only in the last semester of my MBA where i came across that post and had to rethink my choice of becoming a HR person.

    I could also get into HR training and development profile but it requires experience and there are no jobs for freshers in it(India - New Delhi).

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    I could also get into HR training and development profile but it requires experience and there are no jobs for freshers in it(India - New Delhi).
    Move to Sicilion Valley or the Middle East/.

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    Re: Mega Thread of Halal and Haram Jobs + Discussion + Solutions

    Quote Originally Posted by khushdost View Post

    Before enrolling in MBA, i was not aware of the job profile of a HR person. It was only in my last semester that I read on Islamqa.com that even HR jobs are Haram
    http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/107144/mba
    The following is text from your link:
    From With regard to the ways in which the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) earned their living, there were many ways, including:

    · Trade, as in the case of Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq, ‘Uthmaan ibn ‘Affaan and ‘Abd al-Rahmaan ibn ‘Awf (may Allaah be pleased with him)

    · Agriculture, whether they owned farmland or worked on the land; many of the Muhaajireen and Ansaar were involved in this

    · Skilled crafts, such as smithery, carpentry and so on

    · Jobs that were connected to the state, such as teaching, collecting zakaah, judging and so on

    · Earnings acquired through jihad, such as war booty
    We told you to work in agriculture and skilled crafts but you became dismissive.



    Anyhow you have a MBA in HR, you have studied people in organizations and you're asking us to advise (guide) you into a career path?

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    Re: Mega Thread of Halal and Haram Jobs + Discussion + Solutions

    Quote Originally Posted by OldSkool View Post
    The following is text from your link:


    We told you to work in agriculture and skilled crafts but you became dismissive.



    Anyhow you have a MBA in HR, you have studied people in organizations and you're asking us to advise (guide) you into a career path?
    I have never studied people in organization, i never did a job in HR. I wouldn't have been asking this question, if i could do a job in HR.

    From your attitude it seems you don't give much regard to Haram and Halal jobs. And you got a bit frustrated upon seeing that list of Haram and Halal as if you were mocking me.

    I know what was written in that post, i read it much before. You know very well that after years of education, i am not going to become a skilled craftsman. There was no need of education for becoming a farmer or a carpenter.

    Anyway, let me straightforwardly come to the point. I am really not interested in 1-on-1 here. If you don't feel like replying to my post, just don't reply. Period!

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    Quote Originally Posted by khushdost View Post
    I have never studied people in organization, i never did a job in HR. I wouldn't have been asking this question, if i could do a job in HR.

    From your attitude it seems you don't give much regard to Haram and Halal jobs. And you got a bit frustrated upon seeing that list of Haram and Halal as if you were mocking me.

    I know what was written in that post, i read it much before. You know very well that after years of education, i am not going to become a skilled craftsman. There was no need of education for becoming a farmer or a carpenter.

    Anyway, let me straightforwardly come to the point. I am really not interested in 1-on-1 here. If you don't feel like replying to my post, just don't reply. Period!
    Have you ever been employed in your life or just plain study?


    If you're planning to get into I.T market then i repeat, get yourself a junior position on the technical side like desktop analyst or 1st/2nd line technical support.

    Don't do Comptia A+, it is worthless in the I.T industry. Do the MSCE or CCNA certifications if you must but my suggestion is to join a company at a junior level and work yourself up. I should know a bit about I.T, i worked on the development side of things for 4 years after leaving Uni.

    Anyway stop being so confrontational, it's a public forum and i like replying to your posts.

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    Re: Mega Thread of Halal and Haram Jobs + Discussion + Solutions

    Quote Originally Posted by OldSkool View Post
    Have you ever been employed in your life or just plain study?


    If you're planning to get into I.T market then i repeat, get yourself a junior position on the technical side like desktop analyst or 1st/2nd line technical support.

    Don't do Comptia A+, it is worthless in the I.T industry. Do the MSCE or CCNA certifications if you must but my suggestion is to join a company at a junior level and work yourself up. I should know a bit about I.T, i worked on the development side of things for 4 years after leaving Uni.

    Anyway stop being so confrontational, it's a public forum and i like replying to your posts.
    Now u r speaking. Its a good honest suggestion, i like it. Since, u r experienced, i value ur suggestion and i have to rethink my decision for A+. Anyway, i never intended to do just A+, i always planned to do MCSE and/or CCNA after getting an A+.

    If its not personal, can i ask why u left IT and moved into marketing in FMCG sector. Is it just because of recession/layoff or some other reason.

    I don't know it was confrontational or not but i said what i felt as i was replying to what you said, which you felt.

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    Assalamu Alaikum,

    Referring to your list of haram jobs i am enquiring regarding working in a hospital where i may be a support staff (probably doing admin work). But the the actual hospital may deal with haram food given to non muslims (though i dont actually serve the food), dealing with non muslim women. Medicines may contain haram ingredients (although i dont deal with this aspect, but i am working in that environment)
    Can you confirm if my income would be halal. I've registered with a recruitment agency who specializes with jobs in the National Health Service. I am sure there are many muslims that work in hospitals in the UK

    I was thinking about learning Arabic and maybe do something related to Arabic. There is more chance that you will be around muslims if you find a job related to Arabic, i think (i.e. teaching)!

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    what about if a person works in an estate agents?

    but they dont deal with the mortgages side, they deal with rent?

    anyones know

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    I was curious about possibly working in an estate agent. But you may be dealing with mortgage forms. However, there are some muslims who have their own estate agents.

    What about money transfer business where you deal with Western Union, Moneygram.
    You receive payment for sending money to another destination. This is like profiting 'money from money'. So not sure about this though.

    I think 'khushdost' may have an answer to these queries!

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    Quote Originally Posted by *hijab* View Post
    what about if a person works in an estate agents?

    but they dont deal with the mortgages side, they deal with rent?

    anyones know
    Salam Aleikum,

    As per my best of knowledge and taking reference from Islamqa.com, there is no problem working as estate agents and dealing with rent. Yet, it has to be done under certain restrictions which includes

    Not renting the space to/for:

    - Opening bars/pubs
    - Music and movies shop
    - Bank
    - Meat shop selling pork
    - A live-in couple
    - Cyber Cafe (unsupervised with no content filtering)
    - Mixed swimming pool
    - And so on and so forth

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    Re: Mega Thread of Halal and Haram Jobs + Discussion + Solutions

    guys my dad owns a gas station he sells everything including alcohol, i know its haraam but my dad doesn't really make money off of it, he makes money off of everything else but alcohol.

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    Cattle breeder

    Alpaca Breeder

    Providore

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    Re: Mega Thread of Halal and Haram Jobs + Discussion + Solutions

    Quote Originally Posted by Ata View Post
    I was curious about possibly working in an estate agent. But you may be dealing with mortgage forms. However, there are some muslims who have their own estate agents.

    What about money transfer business where you deal with Western Union, Moneygram.
    You receive payment for sending money to another destination. This is like profiting 'money from money'. So not sure about this though.

    I think 'khushdost' may have an answer to these queries!
    Being an estate agent is not a problem but you should be free of Riba based business and transactions. And you shouldn't rent/sell the property for the reasons given in the above post.

    Regarding Western Union, it seems it is Halal to do that. Reference is drawn from this answer http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/101747/money

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrkhan89 View Post
    guys my dad owns a gas station he sells everything including alcohol, i know its haraam but my dad doesn't really make money off of it, he makes money off of everything else but alcohol.
    This is very complicated situation. Technically, your dad's income is NOT Haraam if the money from the sale of Alcohol is not included in HIS total earning. But anyway it is a grave sin to sell alcohol on profit or non profit basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ata View Post
    Assalamu Alaikum,

    Referring to your list of haram jobs i am enquiring regarding working in a hospital where i may be a support staff (probably doing admin work). But the the actual hospital may deal with haram food given to non muslims (though i dont actually serve the food), dealing with non muslim women. Medicines may contain haram ingredients (although i dont deal with this aspect, but i am working in that environment)
    Can you confirm if my income would be halal. I've registered with a recruitment agency who specializes with jobs in the National Health Service. I am sure there are many muslims that work in hospitals in the UK

    I was thinking about learning Arabic and maybe do something related to Arabic. There is more chance that you will be around muslims if you find a job related to Arabic, i think (i.e. teaching)!
    Walekum Salam,

    It seems your job is NOT haraam because :

    1. The primary income of the hospital is from the fees of the patients, not from the selling the haraam food.

    2. You are not involved anywhere in serving the haraam food or ordering someone to do that

    3. You are not involved in touching any non-mehram women

    Well, teaching is still one of the most noble and most Islamic profession. If you enjoy teaching, then you should seriously give a thought to it.

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    7. Any job which involves touching or shaking hands with Non-Mehrams
    8. Any job which involves being alone with a Non-Mehram male or female


    These situations could occur in ANY job, no matter what it is. It is up to the individual to deal with the situation accordingly. I don't think there is a list of jobs per se where you can say for surety that these situations would NEVER occur. Its a situation that could happen anywhere, not just in the workplace. If you avoid and/ or explain, there is no reason why it should affect your work etc.
    What does 'freedom' mean?

    Does the eagle want to swim in the sea,
    Restricted by the sky?

    Does the fish want to dance on the wind,
    Not enough river to explore?

    Yet the sky is freedom for the bird
    but death for the fish,

    The sea is wide for the fish
    but will engulf the bird.

    We ask for freedom but freedom to do what?
    We can only express our nature as it was created.

    The prayer mat of the earth is freedom,
    freedom from slavery to other than the One,
    Who offers an shoreless ocean of love to swim in
    and a horizon that extends to the next life,

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    Re: Mega Thread of Halal and Haram Jobs + Discussion + Solutions

    With such a long list of "haram" jobs, I wouldn't bother about doing any job. Just live on the dole like most people who actually follow the entire list.

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    Salamalaikum,

    This list of haram jobs seems to be quite...well, don't really know how to put it, but a couple of observations are:

    the fact that you group PORNOGRAPHY and CHURCHES in the same bracket i feel is quite disrespectful. any non muslim reading this would get the wrong i dea and a certain level of tact should be used i feel when saying something like that.

    Male gynecologist is haram?? really???....i somehow don't think that's true

    also, consider the difference between a shobha and what is haram....for instance, someone selling fruit and putting the nice fruit at the front to attract customers but not all the fruit he is selling is of that quality, could be considered a shubha, but not necessarily haram....depends on what you actually sell the customer, whether you trick them, lie, etc.....

    alot of jobs need to be taken on a case by case basis and require more than 1 opinion i feel, because reasons and opinions may differ from scholar to scholar (please no mathab debates, lol)

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    and also things like selling set top boxes cus people can watch haram things.....that isn't your responsibility! you can't control what everyone does, that's like saying selling someone a warehouse is haram cus he might use it to store drugs!


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