Asalamalykum, it seems that the time is right to compile a list of british people who support Israel
I read this post
"The names and addresses of Wealthy Zionist Jews can be found in the lists of sponsors and contributors of Zionist Charities. The names and addresses of Company Directors that work for Military Industrial Companies that support these tyrannical regimes can be found in publication like Dunn and Bradstreet"
It would be beneficial to start compiling a list so that we can write polite letters reminding them of the injustices of israel and to stop supporting israel
The Muslims Rulers’ Support of Israel goes top of the list unfortunately.
"If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?" - David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.
This statement made by Ben Gurion in 1948 is reveals a great deal about the status of the Muslim Rulers in the eyes of the Zionists. Even Ben Gurion the first prime minister of Israel regarded the act of signing an agreement by a Muslim ruler with the state of Israel as a betrayal to the people they represented. However, today the Muslims rulers are not content in their betrayal by signing treaties with the state of Israel, they are working to normalise relations between this illegal entity and the Muslim countries and they also oppose any resistance to the occupying state of Israel. This is why Ben Gurion regarded the Muslim rulers to be in the Israeli camp when he said that the Arab regimes are the first line of defence for Israel, he also said “the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine” (David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.).What he means by artificial is that these Muslim rulers have been artificially imposed on the Muslim Ummah ever since the Uthmani Khilafah was destroyed in 1924.
The failure of the Muslim rulers to respond to the aggression carried out over the years by the non muslim states against this Ummah has exposed them. But the ultimate betrayal was witnessed during the recent war between Israel and Hizbullah, where they blamed Hizbullah for instigating the war.
The war was in fact instigated by Israel in its plan to disarm Hizbullah, which is the only force in the region resisting Israel and protecting the people from Israeli aggression. Most of the biased western media outlets put the blame on Hizbullah for instigating the war, but when we examine a UN report on the matter the conflict since the Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon in 2000 the report mentions many violations :
“Regarding air violations, the report stated that Israeli aircraft violated the line on an almost daily basis, penetrating deep into Lebanese airspace”(Jan-July 2001)
“Of equal concern, stated the Secretary-General, were Israeli air violations of the Blue Line, which continued on an almost daily basis, penetrating deep into Lebanese airspace. These incursions were not justified and caused great concern to the civilian population, particularly low-altitude flights that break the sound barrier over populated areas.”(Jan-Jul 2002)
“The Secretary-General also voiced deep concern that “ Israel persists in its provocative and unjustified air violations of sovereign Lebanese territory. Hezbollah's retaliatory firing of anti-aircraft rounds across the Blue Line "is a violation that poses a direct threat to human life", he added.” (Jan-July 2004). (Secretary-General report to the Security Council in 2001/2002/2004)
So in the words of the Secretary General in 2004, it was Israel, which was provocateur and Hizbullah was only responding to the Israeli aggression.
As regards to the “kidnapping” of Israel soldiers, let’s examine first the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) 2006 report on Israel :
“At the end of 2005, approximately 11,200 Palestinians were held by Israel in interrogation units, temporary detention centres, military detention camps, prisons and police stations”
“12,192 detainees visited, including 7,504 monitored individually (of whom 131 women and 565 minors)”
The document states that ICRC issued documents to 17,882 detainees, so the total number of detainees being held illegally may be much higher. These numbers quoted are the detainees which ICRC has access to. There are a large number of muslims which have gone missing, which are not reported in this figure. Most of the detainees have been either abducted or kidnapped of the streets in Palestine or Lebanon. It is worth noting that 565 are minors. So, when Israel claims that it has been provoked into this war with Lebanon due the kidnapping of three Israeli soldiers by Hizbullah, it is nothing but a complete distortion of the truth. It is clear to see that it is Israel which is the provocateur.
The facts presented above are well known in the region and especially by the Muslim rulers, and yet they blamed Hizbullah for instigating the war, which allowed them to lay the basis for their inaction. They even sought to promote division in the Ummah by calling the issue a sectarian one along the lines of Shia and Sunni, highlighting the fact that Hizbullah is Shia and is supported by Iran. The main reason for their inaction is that they do not serve the interest of this Ummah, rather they serve the interest of their colonial masters America and Britain. According to Abdullah Mohamed, professor of international relations at Kuwait University;
“Blaming Hezbollah is a message to the U.S. from these countries, which says they are sources of stability and will continue to serve U.S. interests in the region,''
President Mubaraks statement reflects the stance of a Muslim ruler in the area:
"Those who urge Egypt to go to war to defend Lebanon or Hezbollah are not aware that the time of exterior adventures is over,"
"Those who are asking for war will make us lose all of that in a blink,"
"The Egyptian army is for defending Egypt only and this is not going to change,"
(Press Trust of India - Cairo, July 26, 2006)
These rulers once promoted Arab unity and they also claim to profess Muslim unity through the Organisation of Islamic Conferences (OIC). But when challenged to act on this unity they profess self-interest. The statement of Mubarak reminds us of Musharaf words when Afghanistan was invaded by the US in 2002, he said “Pakistan first”. But don’t be fooled into thinking that they will even defend the nation state, as we know with Iraq, Sadaam Hussein did not release the armies to defend the nation against the invading US force, it was the people and individual soldiers who took up arms to defend Baghdad in 2003. In fact the statements made by King Adbullah of Jordan , King Abdullah of Saudi and Mubarak criticizing Hizbullah implicitly gave justification for Israel’s attack and she took it as a green light to invade Lebanon.
The Muslim rulers have cited many excuses for their inaction, but the main one being the superiority of Israel’s military and that confronting Israel will bring harm to their national economies. Let us examine what options are actually available to these rulers:
· Military – Direct confrontation
· Economic and cultural isolations of Israel.
Population, Military Manpower available, Military Manpower fit for service , Military Expenditure us bn,
Israel 7,112,359 3,353,936 2,836,722 11.8187
Egypt 81,713,520 41,654,185 35,558,995 13.7836
Iran 65,875,224 39,851,026 34,344,352 19.0725
Jordan 6,198,677 3,371,706 2,886,132 2.4467
Syria 19,747,586 10,218,242 8,461,049 5.33183
Saudi 28,146,656 14,928,539 8,461,049 54.6
Turkey 71,892,808 39,645,893 33,444,999 45.2567
Yemen 23,013,376 9,932,593 3,585,947 3.71184
Libya 6,173,579 3,293,184 2,821,855 2.91408
Lebanon 3,971,941 2,229,474 1,883,155 1.25364
Kuwait 2,596,799 1,601,065 1,393,356 7.42
Oman 3,311,640 1,429,296 1,207,291 6.94146
Morocco 34,343,220 18,233,410 15,382,861 6.25
Algeria 33,769,668 19,327,735 16,357,759 7.3359
Tunisia 10,383,577 5,905,068 5,005,257 1.06498
Sudan 40,218,456 18,961,029 11,264,895 2.4294
Muslim - Middle East 431,356,727 230,582,445 182,058,952 179.81263
Published figures show that the Muslim armies combined outnumber the Israeli forcess by a ratio of 68 Muslim soldiers to one Israeli soldier. The Muslim countries spend almost 15 times more on their military budgets than Israel, so it is clear that a united Muslim armed forces is the dominant military power in the region. Even with their advanced military technology, the Israeli’s cannot overcome such a large military force.
Also, after a brief glance at the borders of Israel, it is clear that it would be virtually impossible for it to defend itself from a simultaneous land offensive from Egypt, Jordan and Syria. You may be wondering have not these states engaged in a war against Israel before. Yes they have, but those wars were in reality scenario wars with the objective of seeking peace with Israel. This was mentioned by Mohammed Heikal's in his book "The Road to Ramadan" - he quotes one of Sadat's generals, Mohammed Fouwzi who gave the analogy of a samurai drawing two swords - a long one and short one in preparation for battle. Fouwzi said that this battle (1967-six day war) would be a case of the short sword, signifying a limited battle for certain motives. Indeed, this gross betrayal by of the Ummah by Egypt is currently matched by Turkey who assist’s Israel in her military exercises. As a Turkish news agency stated;
“Billion-dollar military agreements, intelligence cooperation, manoeuvres and secret operations are being made between Turkey and Israel. Israeli war planes are flying over Konya. A common missile shield project is on the agenda between the two countries; it’s under consideration for the missiles to be located on the borders of Iran and Syria. In a 20 thousand square kilometre area in the Konya valley, there were manoeuvres of hundreds of planes making a nuclear attack. Dozens of examples like this can be shown. In short, Turkey is Israel’s friend and ally” – (http://www.zaman.com/?bl=columnists&...60824&hn=35945)
It may be stating the obvious but the Israel is land, sea and air locked by the Muslim countries. So Israel is dependent on the Muslim countries for it’s survival and for access to the outside world. What would be the impact of a Sea, Land and Air blockade ?
Some 98% (by weight) of Israel's imports and exports travel by sea (www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org). Just as Israel with it’s minute naval force imposed as sea blockade on Lebanon, it would be easy for Egypt, Syria and Turkey to impose a sea blockade on Israel further up the Mediterranean sea. Israel import 90% of the oil it consumes, majority of which is imported by oil tankers. This blockade will have a major impact on its Energy requirements. The major oil ports are at Ashkelon and Eilat , currently the port at Ashkelon receives oil from Russia in tankers via the Bosphorus which is controlled by Turkey. In 1989 Egypt supplied about 45% if Israel's oil needs but this has been gradually replaced by russian oil, currently it is still around 26-30%. The oil tankers arriving at Eilat have to pass though the Gulf of Aqaba whose waters are controlled by Saudi and Egypt. This is approximately 12nm wide and a blockade can easily be implemented. There port at Eilat is strategic as it will become key point of distribution of the central asian oil to the world market, BP plans to pump oil through Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil and gas pipelines via Turkey through Israels Tipline pipeline to Eilat. All the routes require the consent of the Muslim countries. Continuing on the theme of Energy requirements Egypt signed an agreement with Israel in July 2005 to supply Israel between “1.7 to 3 billion cubic feet of natural gas annually for 15 years.”( www.arabicnews.com).
The blockade would simply nullify the following treaty, which really exposes how treacherous our rulers have been in aiding Israel :
“Ships of Israel, and cargo destined for or coming from Israel, shall enjoy the right of free passage through the suez Canal and its approach through the gulf of Suez and the Mediterranean Sea on the basis of the Constantinople convention of 1888”
“The parties consider the strait of Tiran and the Gulf of Aqaba to be international waterways open to all nations for unimpeded and non-suspendable freedom of navigation and overflight.
“it is agreed that such relations will include normal commercial sales of oil by Egypt to Israel, and that Israel shall be fully entitled to make bids for Egyptian-origin oil”( Treaty Of Peace Between The State Of Israel and The Arab Republic of Egypt - 26/03/1979)
The sea blockade would also curb the shipment of vitally needed water to Israel from Turkey. Israel and Turkey signed a 'water for arms' agreement in Jan 2004 where Turkey would “ship 50 million cubic metres of water a year for 20 years from the river Manavgat in Anatolia”(Guardian UK) to Israel in water tankers..
The following trade agreement meant that goods were traded across the borders between Israel Egypt and Jordan ;
Agreement on Trade and Commerce (08/05/1980) – “To ensure the free movement of goods between the two countries, each party will make available to the other party, laws, regulations and procedures prevailing in his country, concerning the importation and exportation of goods and commodities”. “Both nation shall accord each other most favoured nation treatment”.
The impact of this treaty has been the increase of exports from Israel to Egypt and Jordan as the report mentions below:
“Israel’s exports to Egypt and Jordan in January-May 2006 increased, thanks to the Qualifying Industrial Zone (QIZ) export agreements with Israel's two neighboring countries…. Exports to Egypt rose 93% to US$48.7 million” (http://www.port2port.com)
A land blockade would affect trade, mail and communication between Israel and the international community.
Air Transport Agreement - 08/05/1980 – “To fly without landing across the territory of the other Contracting Party.”. “To make stops in the said territory for non traffic purposes … Agreement for the purpose of putting down and taking on international passengers, cargo and mail to and from the territory of the other Contracting Party.”
International flights to and from Israel utilise the air corridors over Muslim countries. Imposing a blockade would greatly impact tourism and vital communication channels, which are required for the state of Israel to operate.
The Muslim states have supported the call for the Ummah to boycott Israeli goods on an individual level but nothing is done at the state level. So the Ummah very effectively boycotted the Israeli and American goods. So much so that the boycott in 2002 against American products by the Muslims in Saudi Arabia resulted in a $2 billion drop in US exports. But this is insignificant when we compare it to the investment of the Gulf countries in the US. It was reported by Pravda the Russian newspaper that the total assets of the six Persian Gulf countries are evaluated in the sum of 1.4 trillion dollars, 75% of which resides in the G8 countries. The figure is likely to be double if not more when we consider indirect investment and joint venture with the western countries that gulf states indulge in. The $1 trillion lawsuit brought against Saudi Arabia by the families of the US attack exposed the Saudi investment in the US to be around $750 billion (Aug 2002 -BBC).
On an area such as Education, Media and Culture, treaties have been signed between Israel and its Muslim neighbours. The aim of this is to dilute the Islamic culture and to make Israel more acceptable to the Muslim societies. The following are three example of such treaties:
Education-Protocol On The Establishment Of The Israeli Academic Center in Cairo (25/02/1982) – “Two parties have agreed to establish an Israeli academic center in cairo …. The centre will be established by the Israeli Oriental Society ….. ”, “provide hospitality and assistance to Israeli citizens on scholarships and visiting scholars”. “ Conduct seminars for its visiting scholars and researchers and provide opportunity for them to meet and cooperate with Egyptian scholars and researchers”.
Media- Protocol Of Cooperation Between The Israel Broadcasting Authority And The Radio And T.V. Union Of The Arab Republic of Egypt - 16/02/1982 – “The parties shall exchange Radio and Television programmes and Television films, reflecting culture, social, economic and scientific life in their countries”
Cultural –Cultural Agreement Between The State of Israel - 08/05/1980 –
“both parties shall encourage and promote youth and sport activities youth and sports institutions in each country”. “ Both Parties shall encourage co-operation in the cultural, artistic and scientific field…” ... “Exchange of cultural, educational and scientific publications”.
It doesn’t end here. We know that the purpose of creating the PLO was to shift the responsibility of defending the Muslims of Palestine and protecting Masjid Al- Aqsa to a nationalistic organisation such as the PLO. In fact, this is the responsibility of the Muslim rulers who clearly have the capability to do so but try to deflect public expectations away from themselves. Similarly, the stance taken when the issue of boycotting Israel arises is to encourage the Ummah to Boycott Israeli goods and even American goods for it’s support of Israel. But they themselves deceive this Ummah by importing Israeli products under the label of Muslim companies. It was reported in 2002 that a total of 150 million dollars worth of Israeli goods were imported into Saudi Arabia alone through 72 companies in Jordan, 70 companies in Cyprus, 23 companies in Egypt and 11 companies from Turkey. These regimes use a third country to disguise the source of the goods (Deutsche Presse-Agentur).
One may think that this is a simplistic view of the situation and it is not easy to move the army and it is difficult to get agreement on implementing sanctions and blockade on a country. If that was the case then why did the Muslim Rulers assemble a force and join the Anglo American coalition to remove Sadaam from Kuwait. Surely in the eyes of the UN and the international community the invasion of Kuwait by Sadaam Hussien is no different to the invasion of Lebanon by Israel. Is it possible for the UN to impose sanctions, the no fly zones and the sea blockade for 10 years without the collaboration of the Muslim Rulers. Just like Israel Iraq is also surrounded by Muslim countries. It was the Muslim Rulers, which actually implemented the sanctions, can you recall any ruler opposing or violating these sanctions.
By now the question that should be on your mind is how do we rid ourselves of these rulers. A number of option have been suggested to us, such as vote them out. We have seen so called Democratic elections in the Muslim world since the end of World War II and yet they have not produced any change. They have only hindered change and reinforced the status quo. There has been numerous attempts to bring change by arms struggle, this has only created instability and destruction and brought us back to where we started.
The problem is that Muslims fallen into the trap of taking their policies from these corrupt regimes and their Western supporters. But the our policies, like with everything else, lies in the example of our beloved Prophet Muhammed (SAW). He (SAW) said :
"The master of martyrs (sayyid al-shuhada) is Hamza, and a man who stands up to a tyrant ruler and gives him nasiha (advice). And so the ruler kills him"
Accounting the Tyrant rulers is of one of the highest duties in Islam. The process of accounting is the way to bring change, because in this process the corruption is exposed and the correct approach is advanced. The society witnessing this will rally around the correct Islamic work to undermine the corrupt non Islamic policies which are implemented by the rulers. The Prophet (SAW) did this in Mecca, where he publicly exposed the corruption of the system and the rulers, then He (SAW) presented the people with Islam. Today the task is very similar, the Muslim armies need to be approached to defend the Muslims and remove these rulers. However, at the same time we need to be accounting these traitorous rulers to maintain the public opinion for Islam and against the Kufr they represent and uphold.
There is most definitely a "CLUB" of Israeli supporters, or anti-Muslim extremists, who regularly top the READERS RECOMMENDED comments on the BBC Have Your Say forum.
The most amazing thing is that the list of comments as they arrive, is almost uninamous is condemning the Israelis. But the top recommended comments are all pro-Israeli, and funnily enough almost all have about 300 votes.
Please get yourself a BBC have your say account, and please regularly write in and vote for comments that tell the truth, rather than this pro-Israeli rubbish.
This forum is one of the most known around the world, given the BBC world service. I would urge everyone to make a contribution to this forum, as well as other popular forums.
Labour MP for Liverpool Riverside since 1997, the 62-year-old is probably Israel’s staunchest supporter in an often hostile Commons. She came to Westminster after leading Lancashire County Council. Her varied responsibilities include sitting on the Transport Select Committee, a vice-presidency of the Local Government Association, and board membership of Merseyside arts and cultural organisations. She also chairs the Jewish Labour Movement, the successor organisation to Poale Zion, and is a Labour Friends of Israel vice-chair.
taken from the list of most influential british zionists
If you have any association with goldsmith university or know anyone who stuides there
Please contact http://www.goldsmithsisoc.co.uk/
or fosis at [email protected]
The islamic society at goldsmith university to initiate a petition to have this staunch zionist removed from his post.
How any muslim can study under this vile man who has worked diligently to oppose any boycott of israel, when israel has just completely destroyed gaza university is beyond me
David Hirsh 96 (New)
A sociology lecturer at Goldsmiths College, University of London, David Hirsh established the Engage website to counter left-wing and trades-union anti-Zionism and antisemitism. He was also to the fore in the campaign to reverse the academic boycott of Israeli universities.
Please contact the two muslim city organisations www.wharfma.com and www.citymuslims.org/
and ask them to compile a list of companies to hinder trade with, on an unethical basis
these two muslim organisations have thousands of muslims members working in the city of london.
I am sure that they would be in a position to influence investment in this unethical pro zionist cooperation
Listed on the top 100 zionist supporters of Israel The 47-year-old North Londoner is the co-founder of London Maccabi, the UK’s largest Jewish football club, which runs seven men’s teams and 27 junior sides (aged seven-18) . He is also a trustee of Rowley Lane Maccabi, which owns a 47-acre sporting facility in Arkley, Herts. Traded on the LIFFE market from its inception in 1982 and set up The Kyte Group in 1985.
David Kyte £75m age 46, Kyte Group (http://www.kytegroup.com/)
David Kyte owns 64% of the financial futures trading business Kyte Group. In 2002-03 it made a profit of £4.5m on sales of £36.3m, and we value it at £80m. Kyte’s stake should be worth £51m. Assuming Kyte is the highest-paid director, he has had £8.7m of salary between 1996 and 2002. With property firm stakes added in, Kyte is worth £75m.
Listed as one of their members in The Board of Deputies of British Jews
The staunchest pro israeli organisation in the UK and integral to the promotion of labour friends of israel, and the conservative friends of israel
Please contact these muslim organisations and ask them to protest at the inclusion of the Board of Deputies as they endorse and represent a nation that has just massacred hundreds of women and children in Gaza.
The jewish board of deputies is holding a questions and answers session at a the synagouge in Newman Street in the middle of whitechapel.
The Jewish board of deputies is paramount in demonizing muslims and pushing a zionists agenda. It is very influential.
However there are hundreds of thousands of muslims living in whitechapel.
And given the current bombardment of muslims by zionists. I believe that muslims should either attend the meeting and get hard answers or demonstrate outside
Thanks... very useful information. Also noted your comment about BBC Have Your Say forum. We must apply all possible pressure on those who have conspired to harm Muslims and other innocent people around the world. These people are sick... most of this carnage and misery is for personal profit and gain.
I have much to do, but will hopefully be adding some more information myself to these lists in the near future. Many thanks again.
Re: ÑÏ : Re: Compile a list of those who support israel
Originally Posted by AbuMubarak
king of syria
president of egypt
king of saudi arabia
monarch of morocco
shall we continue?
why are we blaming kafirs for being kafirs, when we should be encouraging muslims to be muslim
I suspect because
we should work on what we can influence
and also because of the recognition that britain and the us are all influencable - 50 years of zionist activity has turned a world wide christian perception of them being christ killers, to the wests unconditional support of them.