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    Question about saying the shahada

    Salaams.

    I have a question about recieting the shahada. I want the shahada to be my last words, but since I'm not very good with Arabic, I'm worried that I'll mess up recieting the shahada and say something completely different as my last words. A person can die at any time, whether it be illness, accident, or homocide. If I get into a car crash or something, I'm worried that I'll try and say the shahada but I'll mess up or something. In which case, is there any problem with me saying the shahada in both English and Arabic? That way, I can reciet the shahada in it's original language, and I can understand what I'm saying when I say it in English. You know what I'm saying?
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    Re: Question about saying the shahada





    The Prophet said:
    "Mun Aakhir Kalimaat La Ilaha ILlah dakhala jannah."

    "Whose last words are La Ilaha ILlah will enter Paradise"

    Not shahadah but La Ilaha ILlah

    Do you mean it will be easier for you to say it in English rather than Arabic so is it allowed or not?
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    Re: Question about saying the shahada

    Quote Originally Posted by Sulaiman Harun View Post

    Do you mean it will be easier for you to say it in English rather than Arabic so is it allowed or not?
    Yes.
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    Re: Question about saying the shahada

    Since it's not same as using english instead of Arabic to recite the Qur'an, in terms or rewards, same way for La Ilaha ILlah or even shahadah and Allah (SWT) knows best!
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    Re: Question about saying the shahada

    u say it in the tashahud bro! doh!

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    Re: Question about saying the shahada

    Can I say that Insha'Allah I think the words shall come naturally....

    I had a n op some while back and woke up reciting the kalima!I was so glad and refreshed that they werew the first words I was uttering - and may indeed have been the last if at had gone the other way!

    I understand your fears - but reckon Allah swt knows best - he knows your intention - so leave it at that - try to perfect your speaking skills but am sure ultimately he will understand and forgive and errors!
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    Re: Question about saying the shahada

    Quote Originally Posted by Rie_Maya View Post
    Can I say that Insha'Allah I think the words shall come naturally....

    I had a n op some while back and woke up reciting the kalima!I was so glad and refreshed that they werew the first words I was uttering - and may indeed have been the last if at had gone the other way!

    I understand your fears - but reckon Allah swt knows best - he knows your intention - so leave it at that - try to perfect your speaking skills but am sure ultimately he will understand and forgive and errors!
    True. This might sound weird, but I recieted the shahada in a dream before. I woke up and was suprised with myself that I was able to do that.
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    Re: Question about saying the shahada

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfn View Post
    True. This might sound weird, but I recieted the shahada in a dream before. I woke up and was suprised with myself that I was able to do that.
    sorry to bump this old thread but was this conclusion that you can or can't say it in English?

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    Re: Question about saying the shahada

    Quote Originally Posted by ssh View Post
    sorry to bump this old thread but was this conclusion that you can or can't say it in English?
    bump again

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    Re: Question about saying the shahada

    You have to say it in Arabic, but it's not that difficult. Usually the person who is there (like the Imam) will say it and then you just repeat after him. It doesn't have to be perfect Arabic.

    You can even just read the transliteration on your own.

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    Re: Question about saying the shahada

    Quote Originally Posted by .mirror. View Post
    You have to say it in Arabic, but it's not that difficult. Usually the person who is there (like the Imam) will say it and then you just repeat after him. It doesn't have to be perfect Arabic.

    You can even just read the transliteration on your own.

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    mirror that is a big contradiction

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    Re: Question about saying the shahada

    Which?
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    Re: Question about saying the shahada

    You say it has to be in Arabic

    then

    It doesn't matter if your Arabic isn't that good

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    Re: Question about saying the shahada

    Quote Originally Posted by ssh View Post
    You say it has to be in Arabic

    then

    It doesn't matter if your Arabic isn't that good

    The declaration of faith has to be said in Arabic for a person to become a Muslim, but even if it is with bad pronunciation it is still valid as long as the meaning is not altered.
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    Re: Question about saying the shahada

    Quote Originally Posted by ssh View Post
    You say it has to be in Arabic

    then

    It doesn't matter if your Arabic isn't that good
    I meant the pronunciation of words.
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    Re: Question about saying the shahada

    Quote Originally Posted by .mirror. View Post
    I meant the pronunciation of words.
    Ok I know you meant that but here's my point. If someone can't speak English that well and they are trying to speak to me, the mispronunciation of the word makes it sound like they said another word, so their whole sentence is not saying what they want it to say because of their bad English, get me?

    How come ppl cannot say the exact same words but in English? Then they are sure of what they said.

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    Re: Question about saying the shahada

    Salam Alaikum,

    Isn't it though, that you are not really in control of your words in this case when you are dying. If you were a true believer as Allah SW has asked us to believe and practice the deen and with his mercy you can probably say it even if you can't pronounce it properly. But if you wasn't a good believer or a non-practising Muslim and you know the Shahada fully and of the top of your head and you even get the chance to say it, it might be possible that it won't come out even if you are trying, obviously Allah SW is the all merciful and can grant it if he wills.

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    Re: Question about saying the shahada

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfn View Post
    Salaams.

    I have a question about recieting the shahada. I want the shahada to be my last words, but since I'm not very good with Arabic, I'm worried that I'll mess up recieting the shahada and say something completely different as my last words. A person can die at any time, whether it be illness, accident, or homocide. If I get into a car crash or something, I'm worried that I'll try and say the shahada but I'll mess up or something. In which case, is there any problem with me saying the shahada in both English and Arabic? That way, I can reciet the shahada in it's original language, and I can understand what I'm saying when I say it in English. You know what I'm saying?




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    Re: Question about saying the shahada

    Quote Originally Posted by Mohamad View Post




    The one who uses miswak will not die except that he has said La Ilha Il Allah
    pay attention, that post was 6 years ago!

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    Re: Question about saying the shahada

    Quote Originally Posted by ssh View Post
    pay attention, that post was 6 years ago!


    The answer still benefits anyone who opens the topic looking for the answer to the OP's question.


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    Re: Question about saying the shahada

    Quote Originally Posted by Mohamad View Post


    The answer still benefits anyone who opens the topic looking for the answer to the OP's question.
    then there's no point in doing a search for old threads to continue if ppl like you who don't pay attention just repeat and repeat the first post without looking at the continuation.

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    Re: Question about saying the shahada

    Quote Originally Posted by ssh View Post
    then there's no point in doing a search for old threads to continue if ppl like you who don't pay attention just repeat and repeat the first post without looking at the continuation.


    The continuation was answered, yet I didn't read a reply that told the benefit of the miswak so I added it so that people looking to say Shahada when they die can use it.


    Why are you picking on me?


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    Re: Question about saying the shahada

    Quote Originally Posted by Mohamad View Post


    The continuation was answered, yet I didn't read a reply that told the benefit of the miswak so I added it so that people looking to say Shahada when they die can use it.


    Why are you picking on me?
    I'm not picking on you geez i'm asking you about your reason for quoting a 6 yr old post.
    You told me your answer.

    Why are you spit your dummy??

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    Re: Question about saying the shahada

    Quote Originally Posted by ssh View Post
    I'm not picking on you geez i'm asking you about your reason for quoting a 6 yr old post.
    You told me your answer.

    Why are you spit your dummy??


    Okay. Sorry.


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    Re: Question about saying the shahada

    Quote Originally Posted by ssh View Post
    Ok I know you meant that but here's my point. If someone can't speak English that well and they are trying to speak to me, the mispronunciation of the word makes it sound like they said another word, so their whole sentence is not saying what they want it to say because of their bad English, get me?

    How come ppl cannot say the exact same words but in English? Then they are sure of what they said.
    Even if it's not perfect classical Arabic, the intention is there and you know in your heart what you're trying to achieve and Allah knows.
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