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    Similarities between Native American Indians and Arabs

    Someone on another forum said that he saw alot of similarities between Arabs and Native Americans. Now that I think about it, I can see some:

    1) Horses

    2) Land taken away (North America/Palestine)

    3) Family bonds (everyone looks out for each other)

    4) Different tribes

    5) Similar land conditions (especially with western tribes)



    I'm sure there are some other similarities. Anything else?
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    Re: Similarities between Native American Indians and Arabs

    Actually the most preferred animal of the original Arabs was the Camel, the horse was a second to that.
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    Re: Similarities between Native American Indians and Arabs





    Add Afghans to the list!
    Allaah said to His Prophets Moosaa and Haaroon (AS) when they were going to Fir’awn: “So say to him a kind word, perhaps he will remember or fear.” [Soorah Taa Haa 21:44]. The Prophet warned, “Beware of extremism, since those before you were only destroyed by extremism.” [Authenticated by Sh al-Albaanee in Silsilatul-Ahaadeethis-Saheehah (no.2183)] Salaat Time Freeware

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    Re: Similarities between Native American Indians and Arabs

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfn View Post
    Someone on another forum said that he saw alot of similarities between Arabs and Native Americans. Now that I think about it, I can see some:


    2) Land taken away (North America/Palestine)

    3) Family bonds (everyone looks out for each other)



    I'm sure there are some other similarities. Anything else?
    This is similar to Bosnians as well. Except when one member of one family crosses the line with another family, then it's just war...literally.
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    Re: Similarities between Native American Indians and Arabs

    but islam was given to the arabs, and all the prophets were arabs
    ‘…Verily Allah sent the Messenger with the Deen of guidance and truth in order to dominate over all other Deens (i.e. religions; such as Christianity, Hinduism and Judaism and ideologies; such as capitalism and Communism) even if the idolaters dislike it…’

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    Re: Similarities between Native American Indians and Arabs

    Also Arabs have always and will always view the world in a patriachal way, whereas many of the native american indian tribes were matriachal which is quite a big difference.

    I just do not see many similarities in the Arabs who do not revere nature nor associate spirits to nature and the native american indians who did.

    I think even a cursory look at the outisde of each culture shows vast differences to be honest.
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    Re: Similarities between Native American Indians and Arabs

    Quote Originally Posted by ana_mujahid View Post
    but islam was given to the arabs, and all the prophets were arabs
    Of the 124,000* prophets, you are saying they were all Arab?

    *figure may not be precise, but it is def in that region

    edited to add: Because if that's what you are saying, I may have to start a thread to discuss and learn more
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    Re: Similarities between Native American Indians and Arabs

    Arabs discovered America before Columbus and married into some Native American tribes so their culture did have some influence on them.

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    Re: Similarities between Native American Indians and Arabs

    Quote Originally Posted by neelu View Post
    Arabs discovered America before Columbus and married into some Native American tribes so their culture did have some influence on them.
    No they didn't, there may be a claim going around some circles that they did lol but they didn't.
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    Re: Similarities between Native American Indians and Arabs

    Quote Originally Posted by neelu View Post
    Arabs discovered America before Columbus and married into some Native American tribes so their culture did have some influence on them.
    Never happened, and no evidence that it did happen.

    Actually, all the evidence out there points to the fact that this never happened.
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    Re: Similarities between Native American Indians and Arabs

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfn View Post
    Someone on another forum said that he saw alot of similarities between Arabs and Native Americans. Now that I think about it, I can see some:

    1) Horses

    2) Land taken away (North America/Palestine)

    3) Family bonds (everyone looks out for each other)

    4) Different tribes

    5) Similar land conditions (especially with western tribes)



    I'm sure there are some other similarities. Anything else?
    Horses were brought over too the Americas with the Europeans. There were no Horses in any part of the Americas before that. native americans took to them however.. or at least some tribes.
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    Re: Similarities between Native American Indians and Arabs

    How comes people claim that arabs/muslims found america without any evidence lool

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    Re: Similarities between Native American Indians and Arabs

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix CG View Post
    How comes people claim that arabs/muslims found america without any evidence lool
    This is the Cherokee Alphabet. Does any of it look inspired by Arabic:


    Here's a painting from the Trail of Tears. Does some of the clothing look Arabic-influenced (hijab, etc):
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    Re: Similarities between Native American Indians and Arabs

    No, I think that's 2 + 2 = 5.
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    Re: Similarities between Native American Indians and Arabs

    Also, here's Sequoyah, the creator the Cherokee Alphabet. Why is he wearing a turban:
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    Re: Similarities between Native American Indians and Arabs

    putting a cloth on your head doesn't mean arabs were there, and that alphabet shows no arab resemblance to me.

    Where is the archaeological evidence of any arab ships going to america.

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    Re: Similarities between Native American Indians and Arabs

    TPs
    Sayyiduna Umar (Allah be pleased with him) said, "I heard the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) say, “If you relied on Allah as He should be relied on, He would provide for you as He provides for birds.
    They go out hungry in the early morning, and return full in the evening." [Tirmidhi]


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    Do not try to run away from trials and tribulations, but endure them with patience. They cannot be avoided, and there is nothing for it but to endure them with patience. How can you expect the whole of this world, and all that has been created therein, to undergo change and transformation just to suit your convenience? The Prophets are the best of all creatures, yet they have always had to suffer afflictions and so it is for their followers, those who tread in their footsteps as they walk along their highway, emulating their example.


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    Re: Similarities between Native American Indians and Arabs

    look at traditional dress and culture before the adaption of western influence... like the dress. *notice the medal hanging from neck and english coat?*

    Also not, the Cherokee writing was invented after European setlement of the Americas. It was a only spoken verbaly before that.
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    Re: Similarities between Native American Indians and Arabs

    Look at the Cherokee religion, tell me if that sounds anything like Islam.
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    Re: Similarities between Native American Indians and Arabs





    Well, at first I thought this thread was about the similarities between the situations faced by Native American Indians and Arabs (and even Afghans, as I added). All are brave people. Add to that the Sindhis and the Rajputs (from India), the Brave Marathas, the strategic Normandians, the Turks, the Spartans and the Bengali Tigers. Top them all with Tamil Tigers. Then the Indonesian Rebels. Add up to Malay Fighters. Move over to the Irish...the list seems endless! At one time or the other, there have been excesses and cruelties against almost every race that exists on earth! And in all medieval literature - English, Spanish, French, Arab, American Indian, Indian, Malay...the bravest of the men seem to have the fastest of the horses! So... ... I guess they're all humans after all!
    Allaah said to His Prophets Moosaa and Haaroon (AS) when they were going to Fir’awn: “So say to him a kind word, perhaps he will remember or fear.” [Soorah Taa Haa 21:44]. The Prophet warned, “Beware of extremism, since those before you were only destroyed by extremism.” [Authenticated by Sh al-Albaanee in Silsilatul-Ahaadeethis-Saheehah (no.2183)] Salaat Time Freeware

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    Re: Similarities between Native American Indians and Arabs

    Palestinians protesting a Condoleeza Rice visit to the Zionist entity.


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    Re: Similarities between Native American Indians and Arabs

    here's another one:


    Both Arabs and Native Indians are grossly stereotyped in movies and the media.
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    Re: Similarities between Native American Indians and Arabs

    first person to have discovered before columbus was a chinese muslim sailor whose name i dont remember but i think it was general muhammad hui. His ship was biggest one at that time.

    and bout prophets being arabs, arabs are descendants of isma'el and jews from isaac, and from what i remember muhammad (SAWS) was only descendant of isma'il where as prophets who were descendants of ishaaq were jews.


    So where did you get it from that mos tprophets were arabs?
    Abu Hamzah Anas bin Malik, radiyallahu 'anhu, reported that the Prophet, sallallahu 'alayhi wasallam, said:
    "None of you truly believes (in Allah and in His religion) until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself"


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    The Prophet Ibrahim (as) himself was not a pure blooded Arab.

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    Re: Similarities between Native American Indians and Arabs

    i thought there was more similarities to arabs and jews.as for red indians i thought they where asian.this is a silly thread i must be bored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xris View Post
    i thought there was more similarities to arabs and jews.as for red indians i thought they where asian.this is a silly thread i must be bored.
    Not all Muslims are Arabs. Most of them are Asians.

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    Re: Similarities between Native American Indians and Arabs

    Quote Originally Posted by abdusamad View Post
    first person to have discovered before columbus was a chinese muslim sailor whose name i dont remember but i think it was general muhammad hui. His ship was biggest one at that time.

    and bout prophets being arabs, arabs are descendants of isma'el and jews from isaac, and from what i remember muhammad (SAWS) was only descendant of isma'il where as prophets who were descendants of ishaaq were jews.


    So where did you get it from that mos tprophets were arabs?
    Zheng He: it well documented that he explored the area around the Indian Ocean and Africa, not America as some claim. On the net there are some claims he went to America, but in reality there is no evidence to support this and in fact all evidence and all records record that he went to Africa and the Indian Ocean.
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