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(*_Hamzah
18-10-06, 08:24 PM
:salams
Obligation to help
Every morning when I walk to the Masjid for Fajr, I often get people coming up to me asking for money and on the weekends (Sunday) it’s the clubbers often stranding with no money to get home. On this particular occasion a Muslim who was drunk by the look and smell of it, approach me, and said to me brother “I’ve been clubbing all night and have no money to get home”- what is my obligation towards him?
If you interested in what I did then please ask.
Personally, I would have said that he needs to get some self control. It's bad enough to be out drinking but when you loose control to the point that you have to beg to be able to get home then the brother has a serious problem.
So what did you do?
yousufs
18-10-06, 08:29 PM
:salams
Obligation to help
Every morning when I walk to the Masjid for Fajr, I often get people coming up to me asking for money and on the weekends (Sunday) it’s the clubbers often stranding with no money to get home. On this particular occasion a Muslim who was drunk by the look and smell of it, approach me, and said to me brother “I’ve been clubbing all night and have no money to get home”- what is my obligation towards him?
If you interested in what I did then please ask.
yeah sure.. Tell us what u did..
(*_Hamzah
18-10-06, 08:33 PM
Personally, I would have said that he needs to get some self control. It's bad enough to be out drinking but when you loose control to the point that you have to beg to be able to get home then the brother has a serious problem.
So what did you do?
Well brother he isn’t the first brother to approach me and I feel awaked helping him after how he and other before him spent his night, on this particular occasion, I said if you want help then ask Allah and if you want problems then Allah will give you problems, and the Masjid is open if you turn to Allah you wont go astray… usually they look at the ground without saying much and finally I gave him 80p for his bus journey.
It happens to often with me. :(
(*_Hamzah
18-10-06, 08:38 PM
Personally, I would have said that he needs to get some self control. It's bad enough to be out drinking but when you loose control to the point that you have to beg to be able to get home then the brother has a serious problem.
So what did you do?
I heard a story from a revert who had a major drink problem, brothers literally pick him out of the gutter and showed him a better way of life.
My closest friend had to beg once and instead of taking the money he walked into a Masjid- changed his life for the best.
Subhanallah thats wonderful.
its too intimidating to be approached like that for a woman though. i was approached for 20p yesterday by a stray and i had to say 'no,sorry' because i felt quite vulnerable in the car park i was at even though it was 3pm.
I felt really guilty afterwards though becasue i knew i had 20p and i had in effect lied because i genuinely felt intimidated by this bloke slurring 'u gat 20p lav?'. bugged me for hours.
(*_Hamzah
20-10-06, 05:44 PM
Subhanallah thats wonderful.
its too intimidating to be approached like that for a woman though. i was approached for 20p yesterday by a stray and i had to say 'no,sorry' because i felt quite vulnerable in the car park i was at even though it was 3pm.
I felt really guilty afterwards though becasue i knew i had 20p and i had in effect lied because i genuinely felt intimidated by this bloke slurring 'u gat 20p lav?'. bugged me for hours.
Assalaam alaikum,
I know how feel:( , It must have been very intimidating, especially for sisters by themselves, and who is to say if you opened your bag the stray person might have sinister plans to grab it all - Allah forbid.
I don’t know if your actions constituted to any wrong in light of the Quran and Sunnah, but you had a valid reason not to give in this particular occasion, my only advice will be, to continue fulfilling Zakat obligations- :up:
Assalaam alaikum,
I know how feel:( , It must have been very intimidating, especially for sisters by themselves, and who is to say if you opened your bag the stray person might have sinister plans to grab it all - Allah forbid.
I don’t know if your actions constituted to any wrong in light of the Quran and Sunnah, but you had a valid reason not to give in this particular occasion, my only advice will be, to continue fulfilling Zakat obligations- :up:
Jazakallah khair for this. i was very intimidated but its a dilemma we face as such people need more than monetary help. they need, time commitment and attention into looking at solutions not perpetuating the cylce they occupy.
Once also as i walked through a train sation i saw a brother on the floor asking 'loose change' so i hurridly emptied what i could onto the blanket he had on the floor as i remembered theat the beloved Prophet saw never turned people away when they asked of what he had.
as i walked away i was appraoched by two police men who were very nice in telling me it was was because of people like me who were encouraging people like the brother on the floor to harass women and couples at night for 'loose change' . and that i was also feeding 'his habit'.
this again made me reflect so in future i would recommend giving food to anyone requesting money. the odd chocolate bar of bag of crisps. next time you go an buy a pasty or tea at a bakery/coffee shop, buy an extra and give it to the homeless person in the corner. and if our intentions are pure it may be this one extra good acts that admits us into the gardens of Firdous.
Na'eemah
20-10-06, 07:31 PM
Well brother he isn’t the first brother to approach me and I feel awaked helping him after how he and other before him spent his night, on this particular occasion, I said if you want help then ask Allah and if you want problems then Allah will give you problems, and the Masjid is open if you turn to Allah you wont go astray… usually they look at the ground without saying much and finally I gave him 80p for his bus journey.
It happens to often with me. :(
You did a good thing by telling him to turn to Allah, and he seemed to be ashamed as he looked down.InshaAllah may Allah guide us all!
*Muhammad*
20-10-06, 07:38 PM
:salams
Obligation to help
Every morning when I walk to the Masjid for Fajr, I often get people coming up to me asking for money and on the weekends (Sunday) it’s the clubbers often stranding with no money to get home. On this particular occasion a Muslim who was drunk by the look and smell of it, approach me, and said to me brother “I’ve been clubbing all night and have no money to get home”- what is my obligation towards him?
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tell him that that what happens when you disobey Allah when Allah prohibts something it is for our advanatage
*Muhammad*
20-10-06, 07:42 PM
one more thing tell him as long as you are in this path i don't want to help you, because you are causing problems yourself and you are disobeying Allah and wasting my money as well?? will you leave this life and start a new one?
Arsalan
20-10-06, 08:08 PM
:)
(*_Hamzah
20-10-06, 08:15 PM
So i say, whoever comes upto you asking for a small kindness, dont refuse it, at the same time give some Naseeah - not harsh , as it doesnt always work for most people. YOu never know whats in peoples heart of hearts, people can change.
JazakAllah Khair, I could read the above words of wisdom a million times and never forgot my obligation to the needy :up:
May Allah swt put the barkah in all our hearts.
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