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!--Muzzamil--!
17-10-06, 05:33 PM
Salamua laikum bros n sistaz, have you ever seen Muhammed SAW in a dream, my mum has :D, i havent been so lucky to as yet, hav you?

Fais
17-10-06, 07:31 PM
My brother in law has.

It was during Ramadan, i think last Ramadan.

Im not sure if i can discuss under what circumstances it was obviously it was good to see the Prophet :saw: but he had problems at that time so i dont think i can say much on it

RaNdOm
17-10-06, 08:52 PM
:salams

ive proper wanted to...

but the closest ive dreamt is seein him :saw: bein taken to his grave and me thinkin i so want to see his face...

Arifa
17-10-06, 08:52 PM
What if someone sees Allah (swt)?

ur_yusra
17-10-06, 09:14 PM
What if someone sees Allah (swt)?


Thats not possible.

yousufs
17-10-06, 09:17 PM
Salamua laikum bros n sistaz, have you ever seen Muhammed SAW in a dream, my mum has :D, i havent been so lucky to as yet, hav you?

Alhamdulillah one of my friends saw Him (sm). He studies in a Islamic school in Bangladesh. And it was when he was only 14 or 15. He said, He saw a man wearing arabian clothings came to his school's gate. telling him, "Did I came to the world for this only? Didn't I do Tablig?" And my friend knew during dream that the man was Muhammed (Sm). He was just shocked hearing this from Prophet (sm). By the way he was someone who hated Tablig. Well, after that he came nearby prophet (sm). And kept looking at his Nurani face.. Then he asked him, "Ya Rasulallah! Can u plz kiss me?" Rasulallah (sm) then kissed him in his cheek. But he forgot which side was it, right or left. But after that he woke up and felt like someone kissed him in reality. SUBHANALLAH...

Later, we saw this friend becoming first in all the classes. He is so talent masha'Allah. And all the teachers love him. Right now he's studying in a university there.. We all pray for him, may Allah make him among His loved ones. Amin.

yousufs
17-10-06, 09:18 PM
Thats not possible.

That's possible. I know someone who saw.. Masha'Allah..

ur_yusra
17-10-06, 09:19 PM
That's possible. I know someone who saw.. Masha'Allah..

Someone who saw Allah (swt)..??

Wheres the evidence to suggest that this is possible??

bint
17-10-06, 09:21 PM
That's possible. I know someone who saw.. Masha'Allah..
no one will know what Allah SWT looks like. so i think u shud think again before u mention stuff like this:angry:

Arifa
17-10-06, 09:22 PM
Someone who saw Allah (swt)..??

Wheres the evidence to suggest that this is possible??


Experience sis, experience :D I know two people that have Alhamdullillah.

bint
17-10-06, 09:23 PM
Experience sis, experience :D I know two people that have Alhamdullillah.


as yusra says. give evidence that this is possible.

Arifa
17-10-06, 09:26 PM
as yusra says. give evidence that this is possible.

What, I don't get you, tell the person who's seen Him to come here and tell you? :scratch:

ur_yusra
17-10-06, 09:27 PM
as yusra says. give evidence that this is possible.

Yeh :S

How can someone 'see' Allah (swt) - Look what happened to Moosa (AS) when he tried..

I've never heard of this in all my life..

bint
17-10-06, 09:27 PM
What, I don't get you, tell the person who's seen Him to come here and tell you? :scratch:


look lemme get one thing straight. u cant see Allah. but u can feel hes presence if u are strong in ure iman. khalas.

Arifa
17-10-06, 09:30 PM
Okay, pretty much the same thing to me, you can't see him in his true nature ofcourse not, as that opportunity's been kept for the jannaties. But feeling his presence and veiwing him in...erm...lets call it "disguise", is possible.

Here's an extract from the bury boys webpage:

Seeing Allah

Hadhrat Danyaal alaihis salaam relates that if a Mu’min was to see Allah Ta’ala in his dream unequalled and incomparable, as is related in the verses of the Qur’aan and in the Ahaadith of Our Prophet sallallahu alaihe wasallam, he will be blessed with the magnificent sight of Allah Ta’ala and his needs will also be fulfilled.

If a person was to see a dream in the manner that he was standing before Allah Ta’ala, and that Allah Ta’ala was watching him, the dream will give proof of his capability, reformation (to improve oneself) and spiritual well being. He will be chosen for forgiveness, and if he is sinful he will repent.

bint
17-10-06, 09:33 PM
no sister its not the same thing. :)

to say that a person saw Allah SWT in his or her dream is comepletely wrong.

but

to say that i felt Allahs presence. i felt like a message was given to me. or anything like that is again a completely different thing.

anyways im not here to pick on u so dont take offence :p just ure words can make someone else think the literal thing, which i and yusra did.

:up:

bint
17-10-06, 09:34 PM
Okay, pretty much the same thing to me, you can't see him in his true nature ofcourse not, as that opportunity's been kept for the jannaties. But feeling his presence and veiwing him in...erm...lets call it "disguise", is possible.

Here's an extract from the bury boys webpage:

Seeing Allah

Hadhrat Danyaal alaihis salaam relates that if a Mu’min was to see Allah Ta’ala in his dream unequalled and incomparable, as is related in the verses of the Qur’aan and in the Ahaadith of Our Prophet sallallahu alaihe wasallam, he will be blessed with the magnificent sight of Allah Ta’ala and his needs will also be fulfilled.

If a person was to see a dream in the manner that he was standing before Allah Ta’ala, and that Allah Ta’ala was watching him, the dream will give proof of his capability, reformation (to improve oneself) and spiritual well being. He will be chosen for forgiveness, and if he is sinful he will repent.

can i see the bury bos webpage please?

yousufs
17-10-06, 09:38 PM
Yeh :S

How can someone 'see' Allah (swt) - Look what happened to Moosa (AS) when he tried..

I've never heard of this in all my life..

Brother, Musa (AS) tried to see him in reality. And Allah proved that there is noone in this world who can see HIM in reality. Well, It will be possible in Jannat, Insha'Allah.
And in dream its possible even now. There's no evidence that no one can see HIM in dream. Then y do u ask for evidence for the possiblity of seeing him?
People who sees HIM r not that fool to come here and discuss with you how was that dream.

bint
17-10-06, 09:40 PM
u need to get this thru yousef.:rolleyes: :-

where 'to see Muhammad SAW or as you say Allah', isnt a dream its REALITY.

try working that one out.

MMS
17-10-06, 09:49 PM
im not entirely sure but i saw a dream once a while ago like over a year ago and there was a man init but i didnt see his face and he seemed like a leader as he was walking through the streets everyone was showing him respect and he was dressed in a brown thobe

and he held my hand and i remember from my dream that his hand was the softest thing you can ever touch and then i remember he was marrying someone called Aisha

anyway i didnt think anything of it but not too long ago i came across the hadith in which the companions mention rasoolAllah :saw: to have the softest of hands and immediately when i read the hadith it reminded me of my dream :scratch:

ur_yusra
17-10-06, 09:53 PM
'Whoever sees me in a dream then surely he has seen me for Satan cannot impersonate me' - Sahih Bukhari

Al-Nasser
17-10-06, 09:53 PM
how do you know that it was the prophet :saw:??

should he tell you that he is the prophet :saw: or what??


anyway i saw Umar Ibn Al Khattab (ra) in a dream before....and i woke up in a terrific mood

ur_yusra
17-10-06, 09:55 PM
how do you know that it was the prophet :saw:??

should he tell you that he is the prophet :saw: or what??


anyway i saw Umar Ibn Al Khattab (ra) in a dream before....and i woke up in a terrific mood

In your dream you would know you were seeing the Prophet (SAW)

Al-Nasser
17-10-06, 09:59 PM
In your dream you would know you were seeing the Prophet (SAW)

Ok...another question

in the arabic of the hadith you posted the prophet :saw: used the word Manam for "dream"......and in another hadith the prophet :saw: say that Manam is from Allah and Hilm (another arabic word for dream) is from the devil....does it mean that only when you see the prophet :saw: in the Manam not the Hilm it is true?

ur_yusra
17-10-06, 10:03 PM
Ok...another question

in the arabic of the hadith you posted the prophet :saw: used the word Manam for "dream"......and in another hadith the prophet :saw: say that Manam is from Allah and Hilm (another arabic word for dream) is from the devil....does it mean that only when you see the prophet :saw: in the Manam not the Hilm it is true?

Well we know that shaytaan cannot impersonate the Prophet (SAW) so if you see him in a dream then you have seen him.

yousufs
17-10-06, 10:17 PM
My teachers say.. Pplz see Rasulallah (sm) in dreams according to their deeds. Like some ppl see him too short. Some see him too tall. Some see him with beard. Some can see him without beard. So, most of the times, Prophet (sm) come in ur dreams to show u the figure of ur deeds. And to make u understand the right path.
Only a few ppl, who r beloved by Allah (SWT) see HIM in his orginal figure.
SO, when u see Prophet (sm), it is sure that u saw him, as Saytan can take his surat. But u should explain the dream to some one who knows the explanation of dreams. As there might me something in ur dream, which could show u the right path. May Allah Help Us.

Ebony
17-10-06, 10:19 PM
You can't see Allah (swt) in your dream.
You can feel His presence...but you can't view Him.

Abu Mus'ab
17-10-06, 10:33 PM
My teachers say.. Pplz see Rasulallah (sm) in dreams according to their deeds. Like some ppl see him too short. Some see him too tall. Some see him with beard. Some can see him without beard. So, most of the times, Prophet (sm) come in ur dreams to show u the figure of ur deeds. And to make u understand the right path.
Only a few ppl, who r beloved by Allah (SWT) see HIM in his orginal figure.
SO, when u see Prophet (sm), it is sure that u saw him, as Saytan can take his surat. But u should explain the dream to some one who knows the explanation of dreams. As there might me something in ur dream, which could show u the right path. May Allah Help Us.

Can someone shed some light on this part?

bint
17-10-06, 10:35 PM
i know that u cannot see Muhammad SAW without a beard. it is not possible. Allah would only show him in his true state..and THAT is with a beard.

ur_yusra
17-10-06, 10:36 PM
It is better to state things with daleel rather then with ones own emotions.

bint
17-10-06, 10:37 PM
It is better to state things with daleel rather then with ones own emotions.
what dyu mean?

yousufs
17-10-06, 10:39 PM
i know that u cannot see Muhammad SAW without a beard. it is not possible. Allah would only show him in his true state..and THAT is with a beard.

Okey i told without beard because some people in our country says that they saw HIM without beard, and by saying this types of foolish things, they spread dalal among the ignorant muslims. And i know thats not possible. Thats y my teachers say, if anyone sees him like this,, even its not possible,, he should have seen him this way for his bad a'mal. Allahu A'lam. But the peoples i know, who have seen him,, evryone saw him with beard. With arabian clothings, wearing hat, with Atar and all.

ur_yusra
17-10-06, 10:40 PM
what dyu mean?

Mean if one says something then one should back it up with Qur'aan or sunnah so people don't get confused.

bint
17-10-06, 10:40 PM
How do I know that I have seen the Prophet Muhammad (Allah bless him & give him peace) in m
Answered by Shaykh Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawthari

http://www.sunnipath.com/images/Q_Image.jpgHow do I know that I have seen the Prophet Muhammad (Allah bless him & give him peace) in my dream?
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In the name of Allah, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful,
To see our beloved master, the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) in a dream is certainly very virtuous and a blessing from Allah Most High upon the person who was fortunate to see him.
When one dreams of the Prophet (Allah bless him & give him peace), then one has certainly seen him. It is stated in a Hadith:
Sayyiduna Abu Huraira (may Allah be pleased with him) reports that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “He who saw me in a dream has certainly seen me, for Shaytan can not take my form.” [Sahih al-Bukhari & Sahih Muslim]
The Hadith commentators and scholars have given different interpretations as to the meaning of this Hadith:
1. That it is similar to seeing the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) in real life, but one will not be called a Companion (sahabi), and one will not be legally responsible to carry out the orders given in the dream, because moral responsibility is not based on dreams.
2. The Hadith is regarding those that were present at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), meaning whosoever saw him in a dream was given a glad tiding that he will also see him whilst awake. This meaning is also supported by another Hadith where the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give peace) said “Whosoever sees me in a dream will soon me whilst awake” (Sahih al-Bukhari & Sahih Muslim).
3. That whosoever saw the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give peace) in a dream, the dream is true and genuine. It is not merely an imagination. The Shaytan cannot come in ones dream and portray to be the Prophet Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam. (All three interpretations related by Mulla Ali al-Qari in his al-Mirqat, 9/24).
The scholars have differed as to whether the dream is true in the case where one does not see the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) in his recognized features and qualities, that have been transmitted in the traditions.
Some scholars are of the view that the dream will only be true and genuine if the person sees the Prophet of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) in his recognised features. This opinion has been attributed to Qadi Iyad.
The majority of the scholars, however, including Imam Nawawi, are of the view that if a person dreams the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) then his dream is true, regardless of whether he sees him on his recognized features or otherwise.
If a person was to see the blessed Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) in his unrecognized features, for example, he saw him without a beard, or with full grey hair, etc… then this dream will need to interpreted.
The differences in appearance may be due to the good or bad habits of the dreamer. According to the variation of people’s personalities, their dreams differ. Some dream him old, whilst others dream him young. Some see him pleased, whilst others see him disturbed. Therefore, the dream will need to be interpreted by a person who is qualified in this field, and who has taqwa and piety (Mulla Ali al-Qari, Mirqat al-Masabih, 9/25).
In the light of the above, if one has a dream of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) then he has surely seen him. One should not doubt this, as this has been clearly mentioned in the Hadith. However, there are two points here which need to be remembered and understood properly.
The Status of Dreams
Firstly , dreams are not a source of evidence in Shariah. Therefore, if one received any order or guidance in the dream from the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace), then there are two possibilities:
1, If the order and command is in accordance with the laws of Shariah then it will be a source of evidence, but only for the one who saw the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) in the dream and not other people. The one who was ordered by the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) to carry out a certain act, should attempt to implement it. However, it will not be binding on him similar to the injunctions that are established in the Qur’an and Sunnah.
2, If the command is contrary to the established teachings of Shariah, it will not be accepted; neither will it be a source of evidence for anyone. It will not be permitted to act according to the dream.
The reason for this is that the science of interpreting dreams is very complex and not every individual is privileged to understand and interpret the dream. One may make a mistake in remembering or understanding the dream. People’s dreams could differ according to their own personality and condition of their faith (iman).
It is reported by Shaykh Ali al-Muttaqi al-Hindi (Allah have mercy on him) that a person saw in his dream that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give peace) was ordering him to consume alcohol. He became very disturbed by this thus referred to the scholars. One of the great scholars of that time Shaykh Muhammad ibn Urat (Allah have mercy on him) gave the interpretation of the dream by saying: “The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) did not say “Consume alcohol” (ishrab al-khamr), rather He said: “Don’t drink alcohol” (la tashrab al-Khamr). Due to the disorder of your mind, you understood the contrary”. (Mazahir Haq, 4/325).
It becomes clear from the above that those who innovate things in Islam and base it upon dreams are clearly contradicting the spirit of Shariah. They must refrain at once from this practice.
The secondaspect to remember here is that the main objective should be to act upon the injunctions of Shariah and follow the beautiful ways of our beloved Prophet (Allah bless him & give peace). Salvation and success do not depend on dreams.
If a person was to see the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) in his dream, but kept back from obeying his command and acting upon his Sunnah in his day to day life, it will not be sufficient for salvation in the here after.
During the days of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give peace), numerous people like Abu Jahl and Abu Lahb saw the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) regularly, but remained dwellers of hell, as they did not earn the pleasure of Allah Almighty and his beloved (peace and blessings be upon him).
On the other hand, we have people like Uwais al-Qarni (Allah be pleased with him) who was not fortunate to see the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace), but was regarded amongst the very pious people.
The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) is reported to have said to Sayyiduna Umar al-Khattab (Allah be pleased with him):
“The best from the Tabi’ins (Followers of the Companions) is a person called Uwais. He has a mother and has been afflicted with leprosy. (When you meet him) ask him to seek forgiveness for you (from Allah). [Sahih Muslim]
It is thus clear from the above that the main objective should be acting upon the teachings of the Messenger of Allah. If one implements his teachings in ones life and then sees him in a dream, then surely it is very virtuous. However, if one kept back from obeying his commands, then seeing the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) is by no means a sign of success.
And Allah knows best
Muhammad ibn Adam
Darul Iftaa, Leicester, Uk

ur_yusra
17-10-06, 10:44 PM
Excellent.

JazakAllah khayr :up:

yousufs
17-10-06, 10:44 PM
Thnx BInT..

Fais
17-10-06, 10:53 PM
All i know is that the person who came closest to seeing Allah (SWT) was the Prophet :saw: as we know from the night journey he took. And scholars even differ on whether he did see Allah (SWT) or not.

And Allah knows best and May he guide us All. Ameen.

H_2
17-10-06, 11:02 PM
Thnx BInT..

Yeh well done Bint :D

Good backing up :up:

ibn suleman
18-10-06, 09:38 AM
Yeh :S

How can someone 'see' Allah (swt) - Look what happened to Moosa (AS) when he tried..

I've never heard of this in all my life..

Seeing Allah in dreams, waking, and the afterlife
http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=7&ID=6259&CATE=24

hudders128
18-10-06, 11:31 AM
Assalam alaikum

I had a dream 2 days before ramadaan this year, my first ramadaan, i was a bit worried about doing it all right.

I dreamt that i woke up in bed, and looked out the window and saw the sun rising but it was massive and an angry orange colour like it was much closer.

Then i felt a presence on my bed, and turned to se an arab looking bloke, and just had the feeling it was muhammed saw. he pointed to a clock on my wall, it said 1am exactly.

Thats when i woke up , automatically i turned on the telly, and guess what time it was on news 24.. bang on 1am.

:rubeyes:

I had the thought in the dream that the sun was as in the days before the day of judgement, rising from the west.. it was like he was saying... aint much time ... remember to be good !!

alhamdulillah

zharifzaharul
18-10-06, 11:38 AM
How about shaytan/devil......they could impersonate like Muhammad. This is possible. I know devil cannot copy the actual face of Muhammad but hey, noone know the real face of Muhammad......hmmm......:( confusing

lantern
18-10-06, 11:46 AM
How about shaytan/devil......they could impersonate like Muhammad. This is possible. I know devil cannot copy the actual face of Muhammad but hey, noone know the real face of Muhammad......hmmm......:( confusing

shaytaan cannot impersonate the Prophet SAW in any way, face or otherwise, the Prophet SAW is pure wheras shaytaan is not,if you see the Prophet SAW in a dream and in your dream you believe that that is the Prophet SAW then u are lucky to have this oppurtunity, for that is in reality the Propet SAW. read the physical description of the Prophet SAW and note some of his features, that is what we do know of how our beautiful Prophet SAW looked, like bro yousefs explained if you see the Prophet SAW different to the descriptions recorded in the books of Hadith, then that measures the strength of Imaan.

Arifa
18-10-06, 02:25 PM
no sister its not the same thing. :)

Pretty much the same thing from a dreamer's point of veiw. You can't feel the presence of something or someone unless they're present.


to say that a person saw Allah SWT in his or her dream is comepletely wrong.

The website that you just used for reference uses the same words:

Seeing Allah in a dream

As far as the vision of Allah Most High in a dream is concerned, Imam al-Taftazani (Allah have mercy on him) states in his commentary of Imam Nasafi's al-Aqa'id:

"As far as the vision of Allah in sleep is concerned, it is something that has been related from many predecessors (salaf). And there is no doubt that this is a type of observation by the heart rather than the eye." (Sharh al-Aqa'id al-Nasafiyya, P: 135)

Mulla Ali al-Qari (Allah have mercy on him) states in his renowned Sharh Fiqh al-Akbar:

"The majority of the scholars are of the view that the vision of Allah Most High in sleep is possible, without any given description of modality (kayfiyya), direction (jiha) or quiddity (hay'a). It is recorded that Imam Abu Hanifa (Allah have mercy on him) said: "I saw Allah Most High 99 times whilst asleep." Then he saw Him the hundredth time also, the story of which is long and not feasible to be mentioned here. It is recorded that Imam Ahmad (Allah have mercy on him) said: "I saw Allah Most High in a dream, I said: "O Lord! How is it possible to achieve closeness to You?" He replied: "By the recitation of my speech (Qur'an)." I said: "O Lord! Recitation with understanding or (even) without understanding?" He replied: "With or without understanding." It is also narrated from the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) that he said: "I saw my Lord in my sleep." Hence, the vision of Allah in sleep is recorded from many predecessors (salaf) and it is a type of observation by the heart observed by noble people..." (Sharh Fiqh al-Akbar, P: 356-357)

Imam al-Bajuri (Allah have mercy on him) states:

"As far as seeing Allah Most High in sleep, it is narrated from Qadhi Iyadh that there is no difference of opinion regarding its occurrence and truth, for the Satan cannot take the form of Allah Most High like he cannot take the form of the Prophets (peace be upon them)..... (Tuhfat al-Murid, P: 118)

The above-mentioned few texts of the scholars indicate clearly that Allah Most High can be (and has been) seen in a dream. It is something that His noble and pious servants are blessed with, and one cannot deny its occurrence. Indeed some Ulama did deny the possibility of seeing Allah in sleep, but that is a minority position not accepted by the majority of the scholars.

Imam al-Bajuri (Allah have mercy on him) has mentioned some additional notes regarding the vision of Allah in sleep in his commentary of Jawhara al-Tahid.

He states that, if one sees Allah in a manner that is not impossible for Allah, then one has surely seen Him. However, if one sees Him in a form that is impossible for Him such as seeing Him in a form of a specific individual, then that is not Allah rather it is the creation of Allah, and the dream will need to be interpreted by those qualified to do so. Some scholars said that even in such a case, one did actually see Allah, but the form seen is not the reality of Allah; rather, it is reflecting the mind of the one having the vision. (Tuhfat al-Murid Sharh Jawhara al-Tawhid, P: 118)

Imam Ibn Sirin (Allah have mercy on him), a major classical scholar considered to be a master in the science of interpreting dreams, states in his renowned book, The Interpretation of Dreams: (This book incidentally covers over 900 dreams with their meanings explained. It explains what facts are to be taken into account when interpreting a dream, when is a dream regarded as true or false, etc.)

"Sayyiduna Daniyal (peace be upon him) relates that if a believer was to see Allah Most High in his dream unequalled and incomparable, as is related in the verses of the Qur'an and in the Hadiths, he will be blessed with the magnificent sight of Allah Most High (in the hereafter) and his needs will also be fulfilled. If an individual was to see a dream in a manner that he was standing before Allah Most High and that He Most High was watching him, then the dream is a sign of his piety and spiritual well-being. He will be chosen for forgiveness, and if he is sinful he will repent." (Ta'bir al-Ru'ya, P: 67)

Imam Ibn Sirin then goes on to mention many types of dreams in which one sees Allah Most High and gives their interpretations. For example, if one sees that Allah Most High is talking secretly with one, then this means one is close to Allah Most High. If one sees that Allah Most High is advising one and giving one Nasiha, then this alludes to the fact that Allah Most High is not completely happy with one's actions. A glad tiding from Allah is a sign of His pleasure and admonition from Allah is a sign of His wrath and anger (ibid). For more details, one may refer to Imam Ibn Sirin's above-mentioned book, but one should consult a reliable scholar of knowledge, piety and wisdom before coming to any sort of conclusion.

To sum up, the vision of Allah Most High is rationally possible and the believers will be blessed with this vision in the hereafter. However, no one is able to see Allah in this world whilst in a state of being awake besides the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace), and regarding the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) too, there is a difference of opinion amongst the Companions (Allah be pleased with them all). As far as seeing Allah in sleep is concerned, this is possible and is related from many pious servants of Allah, saints and scholars.

And Allah knows best


but

to say that i felt Allahs presence. i felt like a message was given to me. or anything like that is again a completely different thing.

But that's the point, it's a completely different thing, anybody can feel the presence of Allah (through his infinite knowledge) whilst awake let alone asleep. And that wasn't the case of the dreamers, they neither received a message or the like.



anyways im not here to pick on u so dont take offence :p just ure words can make someone else think the literal thing, which i and yusra did.

:up:

No problem :) I've already seen the reactions before, nothing new really. It's a futile attempt to try and explain to a dreamer what they see in their dreams. Alhamdullillah when they went to get an interpretation the mawlanas were curious but they gave a nice interpretation :D

My conclusion is that it's possible, but not in the form of creation, and not in his original form, but as an entity, as the fatwa above puts it "unequalled and incomparable"

Wassalam

http://www.inter-islam.org/ >>>bury boy's webpage

bint
18-10-06, 04:07 PM
sis,

i read up on it last night, it turns out u can see Allah but not in his original form. 'orginal form' isnt possible. not at all.

yousufs
18-10-06, 08:24 PM
.... like bro yousefs explained if you see the Prophet SAW different to the descriptions recorded in the books of Hadith, then that measures the strength of Imaan.

Yeah right. :up:

Rizwan
18-10-06, 10:57 PM
You CANT see 1) Allah (swt) 2) Prophets in your dreams.

Its simply impossible! Nor can you SEE 3) Shaytaan.

Even if you thought you saw a dream with such divine presence you are WRONG, because no matter how you imagine Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) to be...it is not the same face as the true Prophet Muhammed when he was on Earth.

It is even more impossible to see Allah, because He (swt) is free from human properties.

Hijab_19
19-10-06, 03:30 AM
I,m not sure but here is my dream-
it was right after fajr prayer. I made salah and went to bed and I was reciting Subhanallah and then i started to recite alhamdulliah and I was really sleepy so in a mint or so i was in sleep(but not deep) and i saw someone tell me recite subhanallah. it was someone with white long dress. and I woke up and i was a bit scared of what just happened and who it was? till today I m just wonderin? if someone can help interpret this dream plz do so Jazak Allah Khair

ibn suleman
19-10-06, 07:57 AM
You CANT see 1) Allah (swt) 2) Prophets in your dreams.

Its simply impossible! Nor can you SEE 3) Shaytaan.

Even if you thought you saw a dream with such divine presence you are WRONG, because no matter how you imagine Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) to be...it is not the same face as the true Prophet Muhammed when he was on Earth.

It is even more impossible to see Allah, because He (swt) is free from human properties.

an authentic hadith in bukahri;

Narrated Anas: The Prophet said, "Whoever has seen me in a dream, then no doubt, he has seen me, for Satan cannot imitate my shape.

so not sure what ur trying to say with your statement! , but it is possible!

Te'oma
19-10-06, 08:32 AM
I thought it wasn't proper to speak of your dreams unless you have had them interpreted by a scholar?

MangoChutney
20-10-06, 06:36 AM
nope never seen the Prophets or anything divine for that matter.....

i usually have dreams of me running away from ppl or things....and other times i just dont even remember...