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MDK
06-10-06, 07:20 AM
Asalaam alaikum.

I want to ask about what is the reliability of this hadeeth?

Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:

Asma, daughter of AbuBakr, entered upon the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) wearing thin clothes. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) turned his attention from her. He said: O Asma', when a woman reaches the age of menstruation, it does not suit her that she displays her parts of body except this and this, and he pointed to her face and hands. (abu dawood).

I have read an article once that said that that hadeeth is Da3eef, but other musslims have used the hadeeth making it look like as if it is hasan or saheeh.

Can anyone present what the muhaditheen have said about this hadeeth?

Jazakallah khayr.

wasalaam.

GothiKa
06-10-06, 08:39 AM
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MDK
06-10-06, 03:53 PM
Anyone?

Arifa
06-10-06, 08:27 PM
Asalaam alaikum.

I want to ask about what is the reliability of this hadeeth?

Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:

Asma, daughter of AbuBakr, entered upon the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) wearing thin clothes. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) turned his attention from her. He said: O Asma', when a woman reaches the age of menstruation, it does not suit her that she displays her parts of body except this and this, and he pointed to her face and hands. (abu dawood).

I have read an article once that said that that hadeeth is Da3eef, but other musslims have used the hadeeth making it look like as if it is hasan or saheeh.

Can anyone present what the muhaditheen have said about this hadeeth?

Jazakallah khayr.

wasalaam.

Wa'alaikum Salam

This is the isnad: (I'm writing it in English from Arabic so forgive me for any enunciation errors)

Ya3quub bin Ka3ab wa Mu3amil bin Fadhlul Harraani Waleed 3n Sa3eed bin Basheer 3n Qataada 3n Khalid...Qaala Khalid bin Dareek 3n Aisha...

After the hadith Imam Abu Dawud comments that the hadith is "Mursal". Because there is a broken link between Hadhrat Aisha (ra) and the previous narrator "Khalid bin Dareek".

So if you leave it at that then there's difference amongst the muhaddith whether a mursal hadith should be accepted as sahih or not.

But then some scholars provide a second reason to why it's weak. The reason being that the narrator "Sa'eed bin Basheer" is a weak.

I found this refutation:


Refutations from Shaikh Ibn Uthaimin
This is taken from the book "Hijaab" by Shaikh Ibn Uthaimin from Saudi Arabia. Printed by Madrasah Arabia Islamia Azaadville-South Africa.
Translated by Hafedh Zaheer Essack, Rajab 1416 (December 1995)

The Ullima who are of the opinion that it is permissible to look at the face and hands of a strange woman (who is not mahrrum) say so mainly for the following reasons.

The hadith of Aisha (Radhiallaahu Ánha) when Asmaa (Radhiallaahu Ánha) the daughter of Abu Bakr came to the Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) while wearing thin clothing. He approached her and said: 'O Asmaa! When a girl reaches the menstrual age, it is not proper that anything should remain exposed except this and this. He pointed to the face and hands. But this hadith is WEAK because of 2 main weaknesses.

1. There is no link between Aisha (Radhiallaahu Ánha) and Khalid bin Dareek, who narrated the hadith from her. And in every chain of narrators Khalid bin Dareek is mentioned.

2. In the chain os narrators Sa'eed bin Basheer appears, who is known by most of the Muhaditheen as being a weak narrator. This has been mentioned by Imaam Ahmad bin Hanbal (Rahimahullah), An-Nasai (Rahimahullah), Ibn Madeeni (Rahimahullah) and Ibn Ma'een (Rahimahullah). This is also why Imaam Bukhari (Rahimahullah) and Muslim (Rahimahullah) did not except this hadith to be in their books.
(From Shaikh Ibn Uthaimin in the book "Hijaab" pages # 17 and 18.)

We also have to see that the Muhadith Abu Dawood when he quoted this hadith put with it that it is Mursal (with a broken chain that does not lead up to the Sahaba).
(From The Book "Hijaab wa Safur" under tha fatwaa of Shaikh AbulAziz Bin Bazz on Page #61. Also stated as being weak by Shaikh Nasirudden Al-Albaani in his Daeef Sunan Abu Dawud in Kitab-ul-Libas under hadeeth number 4092 (which is the original hadeeth number.) It has also been mentioned in the magazine called "Al Hijrah" that Ullima agree this hadith is weak.)

An other thing that shows the weakness of this hadith is that after the ayah for hijab (Surah Al-Ahzaab – Verse #59) was revealed then the women of Sahaba wore a complete veil and covered the faces and hands. This includes Asmaa (Radhiallaahu Ánha) the daughter of Abu Bakr, who is supposed to have narrated this hadith. Asmaa (Radhiallaahu Ánha)covered herself completly including tha face, this has been narrated in authentic hadith in Imaam maliks "MUWATTA Book 20 Hadith # 20.5.16."

Source: http://members.tripod.com/~ibnfarooq/niqaab.htm

.: Anna :.
06-10-06, 08:31 PM
Wa'alaikum Salam

This is the isnad: (I'm writing it in English from Arabic so forgive me for any enunciation errors)

Ya3quub bin Ka3ab wa Mu3amil bin Fadhlul Harraani Waleed An Sa3eed bin Basheer An Qataada An Khalid...Qaala Khalid bin Dareek An Aisha...
just to clarify, in english "an" means "on the authority of"

Arifa
06-10-06, 08:34 PM
Sorry sis, I just changed "An" to "3n" seems more correct.

MDK
06-10-06, 09:09 PM
Jazakallaahu khayran.

This is exactly what i needed.

wasalaam.