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have u got your answers ready?
will u be ashamed of your answers?
will u lie?
will u stutter, beacuse you know what u have been doing?
lets not forget , wen the tongue lies, our limbs will speak as a witness against us.
Questions on the Day of Judgement
On the day of judgement you will get asked four questions
How did you spend the time in your life?
How did you use the knowledge you had?
How did you acquire and spend your wealth?
How did you utilise the body that you were given?
jus a reminder
.: Anna :.
02-10-06, 12:10 AM
masha allah sis, simple but effective reminder. jazakallah khayr :love:
may allah 4give us n grant us shade on yawm al qiyama ameen
masha allah sis, simple but effective reminder. jazakallah khayr :love:
may allah 4give us n grant us shade on yawm al qiyama ameen
ameen sis ameen.
it so scary cos i think even if u know u have been good your still gonna be scared witless :( jus teh fact that your now standing in front of the almighty, all your life the promise you were made by him has finally come, you are now in front of him, answerable for all u have done or not done!
JazakAllah khayr MG,
i think the Prophet SAWS said that everyone of us dies feeling ashamed at what we have done in our lives and what we have failed to do,subhanAllah,
we should remember death much because it gives life to the soul and the salat and remembering life too much gives death to them
JazakAllah khayr MG,
i think the Prophet SAWS said that everyone of us dies feeling ashamed at what we have done in our lives and what we have failed to do,subhanAllah,
we should remember death much because it gives life to the soul and the salat and remembering life too much gives death to them
very true akhi,
nobody is perfect and everyoen will have failed at some point in their life, may allah swt have mercy on us and forgive our sins inshallah (and grant us a good death!) ameen
Genghis Cohn
10-10-06, 08:15 AM
I'll have my questions ready.
Torn.Rose
10-10-06, 08:29 AM
I'll have my questions ready.
What do you mean, you will have your "QUESTIONS" ready??
I'll have my questions ready.
is that b4 or after your answers?
What do you mean, you will have your "QUESTIONS" ready??
this is the arrogance of some people ont his earth, they think that they will have the audacity to challenge allah swt, lil do they knwo that they will be so busy cacking their pants , that they are lucky if they will get 2 words out.
have u got your answers ready?
will u be ashamed of your answers?
will u lie?
will u stutter, beacuse you know what u have been doing?
lets not forget , wen the tongue lies, our limbs will speak as a witness against us.
Questions on the Day of Judgement
On the day of judgement you will get asked four questions
How did you spend the time in your life?
How did you use the knowledge you had?
How did you acquire and spend your wealth?
How did you utilise the body that you were given?
jus a reminder
Masha Allah!
Thank you Sister...
Torn.Rose
10-10-06, 09:29 AM
this is the arrogance of some people ont his earth, they think that they will have the audacity to challenge allah swt, lil do they knwo that they will be so busy cacking their pants , that they are lucky if they will get 2 words out.
LOL....i cracked up when i read that?? who on earth is gona ask Allah questions? he is our creator...we are the ones that have to answer to him!
this should always be at the forefront of our mind so when we are going to commit any sin...we should think...we are gona have to answer to Allah for this in our Grave.
May Allah have mercy on us all!
LOL....i cracked up when i read that?? who on earth is gona ask Allah questions? he is our creator...we are the ones that have to answer to him!
this should always be at the forefront of our mind so when we are going to commit any sin...we should think...we are gona have to answer to Allah for this in our Grave.
May Allah have mercy on us all!
exactly , but some people think they are above allah swt and think they will be questioners.....:rolleyes: :rubeyes:
Genghis Cohn
10-10-06, 07:50 PM
What do you mean, you will have your "QUESTIONS" ready??
I mean I will have my questions ready.
A couple of them:
Why send people to hell for ever? How is that just?
If you knew what everyone would do before they were made and planned for them to do those acts in advance, how can they be punished for what was your will?
Torn.Rose
10-10-06, 07:56 PM
I mean I will have my questions ready.
A couple of them:
Why send people to hell for ever? How is that just?
If you knew what everyone would do before they were made and planned for them to do those acts in advance, how can they be punished for what was your will?
But who are you to question Allah (swt)?he is your creator...whether you aknowledge that or not?
your asking how Allah (swt) can send people to hell forever? how can people not acknowledge his existance and doubt his power. If you dont accept him as your Lord...if you deny the guidance he has provided for us in the Quran and if you disregard the teachings of his final prophet (saw)...then what gives you the right to dwell in heaven?
I mean I will have my questions ready.
A couple of them:
Why send people to hell for ever? How is that just?
If you knew what everyone would do before they were made and planned for them to do those acts in advance, how can they be punished for what was your will?
see Torn?
the arrogance is jus phenomenal, the fact that someone thinks THEY will be in a position to ask let alone CHALLENGE allah swt, on wat happened to the world *sigh*
Genghis Cohn
10-10-06, 08:15 PM
But who are you to question Allah (swt)?he is your creator...whether you aknowledge that or not? So? God made me able to question him- in fact god made me meaning me to question him, as god knew what I would do when he made me- so question him i will, if he's there
your asking how Allah (swt) can send people to hell forever? how can people not acknowledge his existance and doubt his power. If you dont accept him as your Lord...if you deny the guidance he has provided for us in the Quran and if you disregard the teachings of his final prophet (saw)...then what gives you the right to dwell in heaven?
Who said anything about heaven? Heaven is just as unjust as hell. It is unjust in the form of generosity beyond anyone's deserving, whereas an eternal hell is cruelty beyond anyone's deserving. Both are beyond anyone's merits though. This has nothing to do with "existence or power", though i don't believe in a god with either, it is a matter of justice.
Torn.Rose
10-10-06, 08:18 PM
see Torn?
the arrogance is jus phenomenal, the fact that someone thinks THEY will be in a position to ask let alone CHALLENGE allah swt, on wat happened to the world *sigh*
Honestly im astonished! we should fear allah enough in our lives here...our love for him should be so great that we fear doing wrong so much that it stops us in our tracks and think hold on im being watched and will be judged on this...should stop us from commiting sin in this life....so imagne if we are ment to fear him here...how much more are we ment to fear him in our grave when he is challenging us on all that we have done.
we should be crappin ourselves now let alone thinking of what to ask him. I wouldnt even answer back my parents let alone Allah (swt)
Torn.Rose
10-10-06, 08:20 PM
So? God made me able to question him- in fact god made me meaning me to question him, as god knew what I would do when he made me- so question him i will, if he's there
Who said anything about heaven? Heaven is just as unjust as hell. It is unjust in the form of generosity beyond anyone's deserving, whereas an eternal hell is cruelty beyond anyone's deserving. Both are beyond anyone's merits though. This has nothing to do with "existence or power", though i don't believe in a god with either, it is a matter of justice.
so what?
what exactly are you hoping to achieve? u dont wana burn in the fires of hell and you dont wana be admitted into jannah so what...what do u want?
Genghis Cohn
10-10-06, 08:31 PM
so what?
what exactly are you hoping to achieve? u dont wana burn in the fires of hell and you dont wana be admitted into jannah so what...what do u want?
I want reasonable answers to my questions.
If god can produce reasonable explanations for these and other questions I am perfectly willing to go to hell. I don't think there are reasonable answers to them though Why send people to hell for ever? How is that just?
If god knew what everyone would do before they were made and planned for them to do those acts in advance, how can they be punished for what was god's will?
Torn.Rose
10-10-06, 08:37 PM
I want reasonable answers to my questions.
If god can produce reasonable explanations for these and other questions I am perfectly willing to go to hell. I don't think there are reasonable answers to them though Why send people to hell for ever? How is that just?
If god knew what everyone would do before they were made and planned for them to do those acts in advance, how can they be punished for what was god's will?
hmmm...im not too sure about that so i dont really wana answer about what is written and what is not...Insha'allah someone else will be able to go into that. but from my point of view...i see it as ...allah created us all and he did write certain things but he also gave us a brain to think with...a tongue to ask questions with, a heart to feel with, ears to hear and eyes to see. we are also given free will... if Allah has provided us with all those things and we still reject him then what does that say about us? that we are arrogant and dont wana see the truth. u know, being hre is our one chance to praise and worship allah and earn his mercy and respect. u cant have it all...and you cant blame Allah (swt) for you wrong doing just cuz he knew u were gna do it when he created you. thats a lame excuse!
Genghis Cohn
10-10-06, 08:47 PM
hmmm...im not too sure about that so i dont really wana answer about what is written and what is not...Insha'allah someone else will be able to go into that. but from my point of view...i see it as ...allah created us all and he did write certain things but he also gave us a brain to think with...a tongue to ask questions with, a heart to feel with, ears to hear and eyes to see. we are also given free will... if Allah has provided us with all those things and we still reject him then what does that say about us? that we are arrogant and dont wana see the truth. u know, being hre is our one chance to praise and worship allah and earn his mercy and respect.Do you think these actions are sufficiently bad to justify torturing someone beyond human imagination for eternity? Do you think anything even the worst of men could do in a brief lifetime is sufficiently bad to justify torturing them beyond human imagining for eternity? u cant have it all...and you cant blame Allah (swt) for you wrong doing just cuz he knew u were gna do it when he created you. thats a lame excuse!
What's lame about it? God supposedly knew exactly what we would do and made us knowing it. So how do we have free will? There's more towards the end of this thread: http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1310468
Torn.Rose
10-10-06, 08:53 PM
Do you think these actions are sufficiently bad to justify torturing someone beyond human imagination for eternity? Do you think anything even the worst of men could do in a brief lifetime is sufficiently bad to justify torturing them beyond human imagining for eternity?
What's lame about it? God supposedly knew exactly what we would do and made us knowing it. So how do we have free will? There's more towards the end of this thread: http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1310468
well i personally think that rejecting the way of life that Allah has ordained for us is pretty bad.
if we was in a day and age where knowledge wasnt so easily accessable(ur on the internet now...and there many more ways of gaining knowledge)and islam wasnt so known to people i could understand people not knowing but when the topic is always in the news and in papers(maybe its not all good stuff but u can always do ur own research and make ur own judgements)and in books and on cd and dvd and every other which way u get all other knowledge...there is no reason for anyone to question the path that Allah (swt)has ordained for us.
Insha'Allah im gona be so scared in my grave that i wont bat an eyelid wrong never mind prepare questions to raise to the Almighty!
.: Anna :.
10-10-06, 09:46 PM
Relevant points....
Those who are arrogant will be ressurected in the size of ants on yawm al qiyama. Not normal ants (naml) but a smaller one than this. Everyone would be running and these would be stomped under foot, this is part of their punishment for this sin.
Also Allah swt has said, those who have fear of yawm al qiyama during dunya will not hav fear on that day, and those who do not have fear, will feel the fear on that day. Ie there will not be someone with 2 parts fear, nor of two parts without fear.
I was listening 2 one of the akhira cds this morning. Sorry not to give reference but if you do have the lectures urself, you will be able to hear it explained properly and for those who dont have it, it is at least worth a mention insha allah
Relevant points....
Those who are arrogant will be ressurected in the size of ants on yawm al qiyama. Not normal ants (naml) but a smaller one than this. Everyone would be running and these would be stomped under foot, this is part of their punishment for this sin.
Also Allah swt has said, those who have fear of yawm al qiyama during dunya will not hav fear on that day, and those who do not have fear, will feel the fear on that day. Ie there will not be someone with 2 parts fear, nor of two parts without fear.
I was listening 2 one of the akhira cds this morning. Sorry not to give reference but if you do have the lectures urself, you will be able to hear it explained properly and for those who dont have it, it is at least worth a mention insha allah
well said sis. May allah swt protect us from his punishments inshalalh and forgive our sins.Ameen
what CDS are these sis, any good, cos i wanna get some for my bros?
Torn.Rose
10-10-06, 10:02 PM
Relevant points....
Those who are arrogant will be ressurected in the size of ants on yawm al qiyama. Not normal ants (naml) but a smaller one than this. Everyone would be running and these would be stomped under foot, this is part of their punishment for this sin.
Also Allah swt has said, those who have fear of yawm al qiyama during dunya will not hav fear on that day, and those who do not have fear, will feel the fear on that day. Ie there will not be someone with 2 parts fear, nor of two parts without fear.
I was listening 2 one of the akhira cds this morning. Sorry not to give reference but if you do have the lectures urself, you will be able to hear it explained properly and for those who dont have it, it is at least worth a mention insha allah
WOW! that is truly beautiful! i pray i continue fearing the punishment in the grave. May Allah have mercy on all those that life follow his path!
.: Anna :.
10-10-06, 10:07 PM
well said sis. May allah swt protect us from his punishments inshalalh and forgive our sins.Ameen
what CDS are these sis, any good, cos i wanna get some for my bros?Imam Anwar Al Awlaki. There are 2 cd sets by him on the hereafter, having about 10 cds or so per set? also he does all dif topics aswell like I listened 2 the Abu Bakr set before and some of the lives of the prophets... ne lectures by him I really recommend masha allah. He puts a lot of detail and you really learn something, also he is quite captivating speaker. You enjoy to listen :)
& ameen 2 ur dua
Torn.Rose
10-10-06, 10:11 PM
jazakallah khair for that sister anna!
will try to get some cds of his ,insha'Allah!
saladin1970
10-10-06, 10:19 PM
Introduction
Yawm al-Qīyāmah (Arabic: يوم القيامة literally: "Day of the Resurrection") is the Arabic name for the Last Judgement The day of Judgement will be ushered in with the sound of the trumpet (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Soor), signalling the end of the Duniyah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php?title=Duniyah&action=edit) and the beginning of the Hearafter (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Akhirah). The prophetic Hadiths (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php?title=Hadiths&action=edit) tell us that this day will come on Jummah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php?title=Jummah&action=edit) Citation. Every living creature will die on the first blow of the trumpet (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Soor) except a few Citation. It will be a day that lasts 50,000 years 70:4 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AL-MAARIJ), and the horrors of that day will make a childs hair turn grey 73:17 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AL-MUZZAMMIL) and the people to run around as if they where drunk Citation. On this day the idols will be asked by Allah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Allah) if they wanted to be worshipped, and they will answer in front of the whole of humanity that they did'nt even know they were being worshipped. On that day the sinners will be given their punishment, and the believers (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Muminim) there due.
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1 Signs of the Day of Judgment (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Qiyama#Signs_of_the_Day_of_Judgment)
2 When will the day of Judgement Occur (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Qiyama#When_will_the_day_of_Judgement_Occur)
3 The Sound of the Trumpet (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Qiyama#The_Sound_of_the_Trumpet)
4 The Ressurection (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Qiyama#The_Ressurection)
5 Destruction of the Universe (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Qiyama#Destruction_of_the_Universe)
6 The witness of all those that where Deified (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Qiyama#The_witness_of_all_those_that_where_Deified )
7 The punishment on that day (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Qiyama#The_punishment_on_that_day)
7.1 The Punishment for the unbelievers (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Qiyama#The_Punishment_for_the_unbelievers)
7.2 Those Whom Allah will not speak to (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Qiyama#Those_Whom_Allah_will_not_speak_to)
7.3 The believers (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Qiyama#The_believers)
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Signs of the Day of Judgment
See main article Signs of the Day of Judgement (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Signs_of_the_Day_of_Judgement)
There are many signs leading up to the day of Judgment, there will be minor signs and major signs. Although we know of the signs, no one except Allah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Allah) knows when the hour will be.. Citation needed [Anwar alankawi - the hearafter]
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When will the day of Judgement Occur
The prophet was shown what Friday (Jummah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php?title=Jummah&action=edit) looked like. It was like a bright shiny mirror, but it had a black spot. When the prophet asked what this black spot was, he was told it was Qiyama. In another narration we are told that the animals become nervous on Jummah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php?title=Jummah&action=edit) because they know that this is the day that Qiyam can fall on . The prophet also said that nobody knows when the day will be Citation
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The Sound of the Trumpet
The day of Judgment will be ushered in by the sound of the trumpet (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Soor) whom Israfil (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Israfil) holds to his lips citation, waiting for the command of Allah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Allah). See 50:20 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/QAF), 74:8-10 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AL-MUDDATHTHIR), 36:51 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/YA-SEEN).
Allah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Allah) says in the Qu'ran (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Qu%27ran) "On the Day the Trumpet (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Soor) is blown and everyone in the heavens and everyone on Earth is terrified—except those Allah wills, everyone will come to Him abject". 27:87 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AN-NAML)
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The Ressurection
On that day , people will be ressurected from their Graves, the young, old, men , women, the believers and the unbelievers. Abu Huriyah narrated that even the beasts will brought forward on that day. And the disbelievers (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Kafiroon) will say "I wish i were but dirt, and had never walked on the face of the earth" such will be their fear.
Muhammed will be the first to rise from his grave
The people will be in their original state, barefoot, naked and uncircumsised. When Aisha (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Aisha) RA heard this she asked the prophet (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Muhammed) about their nakedness, and the prophet (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php?title=Muhamed&action=edit) replied that they would be too terrified to notice.
Then the people will be clothed, and the first to be clothed will be Ibrahim (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Ibrahim), and the prophet Muhammed will be clothed in a cloak from Jennah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Jennah) Citation'
The people will reflect on how short their time was in the Duniyah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php?title=Duniyah&action=edit), like a teabreak compared to the 50,000 years that is Qiyama.
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Destruction of the Universe
On the Hour, the earth, skies and the sea will burn and be destoryed, and Allah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Allah) will roll the lowest of the seven heavens (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php?title=Seven_heavens&action=edit) like a scroll. Citation
The Earth will throw up its contents, leading many scholars to believe it will be rendered flat (not spherical) 84:3-5 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AL-INSHIQAQ). It will convulse and quake and its mountains crushed to dust 99:1-5 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AZ-ZALZALA),22:1 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AL-HAJJ), 89:21-23 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AL-FAJR)
The Mountains will be pulverised 77:10 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AL-MURSALAT), they will shake and become like shifting dunes 73:14 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AL-MUZZAMMIL). They will be like a mirage 78:20 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AN-NABA), and the earth will be laid bare 18:47 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AL-KAHF) , as they will be scattered like dust 20:105-107 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/TA-HA). Not one Mountain will remain 18:47 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AL-KAHF). Allah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Allah) says in Surah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php?title=Surah&action=edit) 101:5 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AL-QARIA) "And the mountains will be like carded wool." And it will occur with just a single blow 69:14-15 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AL-HAAQQA)
Allah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Allah) says in the Qu'ran (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Qu%27ran) "When the seas are filled with flame" 81:6 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AT-TAKWIR), "when the oceans flood and overflow" 82:3 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AL-INFITAR)
And the Heavens will split usunder. The stars will be extinguished 77:7-9 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AL-MURSALAT), and the heavns will sway to and fro 52:9 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AT-TUR). This is the promise of Allah as the heavens will be frail 69:16 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AL-HAAQQA). And on that day the sky will be like molten brass 70:8 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AL-MAARIJ), and it will be red like dregs of oil. 55:37 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AR-RAHMAN). For they do not measure Allah with his true measure, as on that day Allah will fold up the heavens in his right hand , like a scroll 39:67 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AZ-ZUMAR). This heaven which is the lowest of the seven heavens, all that we see, the galaxies, the stars, the planets, all of which is like a ring in the desert compared to the remaining six heavens. Finally the sky will burst open as the Earth is flattened and disgorges that which is inside 84:1-6 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AL-INSHIQAQ)
The Day of Judgment will also witness immense changes and destruction to the stars and the moon. The Sun will be blackened 81:1 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AT-TAKWIR), and the stars will be strewn around, falling in rapid succession 81:2 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AT-TAKWIR), before being extinguished 77:8 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AL-MURSALAT). And the Sun and the Moon will fuse together. There will be no where to run, no place will be safe, on that Day. 75:8-13 (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/AL-QIYAMA) [edit (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php?title=Qiyama&action=edit§ion=6)]
The witness of all those that where Deified
On the Day of Judgement Allah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Allah) will ask the all those that where worshiped beside Allah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Allah), if they knew, and wanted to be worshiped. Allah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Allah) will ask the Angels (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Angels), the idols of stone and wood, he will ask Shaytan (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Shaytan), and so will Jesus (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php?title=Eesa&action=edit). Allah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Allah) already knows the answer to these question, but these questions will be for the benefit of the whole of mankind, who will be listening.
The Idols of Stone and Wood will say they didn't even know they where being worshipped. The angels (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Angels) will say that they didn't want to be worshipped, and that all the sightings of those who said they saw Angels (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Angels) were in fact Jinn (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Jinn).
Allah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Allah) will ask Jesus (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php?title=Eesa&action=edit) "Did you ask man to worship you and your mother". Jesus (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php?title=Eesa&action=edit) will reply "It was not for me to say something I had no right to say", he will say that it was an idea so absurd that it hadn't even crossed his mind.
Allah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Allah) will then turn to the weak, and those that led the weak. The weak will argue that they where led, but Allah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Allah) will confirm that the leaders will carry only their own sin, and the leaders will tell those whom they led, that they had the ability to find the truth but that they choose not to. For being weak is not an excuse, the ability to choose is what singles them out as Beni Adam.
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The punishment on that day
The Quran uses words such as the Great Day, the Heavy Day, the Difficult Day to describe The Day of Judgement . For on that day, there will be no kinship ties, and on the second blowing of the trumpet (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Soor), a man will run from his brother, his mother and father, his wife and his children. Nursing Mothers will abandon their children, and pregnant women will loose their unborn. It will be a day where the nonbelievers would be willing to throw their children into the fire, just to save themselves.
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The Punishment for the unbelievers
Allah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Allah) will ask the disbelievers. "Would you be willing to pay the weight of the whole world in Gold to save yourself". They will reply yes. Allah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Allah) will say to them ,that it is too late, and in the Duniyah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php?title=Duniyah&action=edit) I asked for much less, just a little rememberance (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Dhikr) of Allah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Allah)
For the disbelievers Qiyama will be pitch black, and the Quran tells us that this will be a day when the oppressor bites his own hands to the bone. For Allah says that the greatest loss is the one who thought they were doing good deeds, but they were worthless. "The Ones who disbelieved are like a mirage in the desert. And Allah tells us that they will are not oppressed on Qiyama, but that they oppressed themselves with their kufr
On that day Allah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Allah) will bring about justice to those that transgressed, on that day there will be many who's appeals Allah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Allah) will ignore, and they will be ignored
It is related by Al-Bukhari (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Al-Bukhari) that those who have money but don't pay zakat will be squeezed by a snake. Another narration records that the wealth will be chained to the transgressers neck, and yet another relation by Muslim (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Sahih_Muslim) says that gold and silver will be heated and turned into plates and the oppressor will be branded on the forehead day in day out for the 50,000 years of Qiyama
Al-kibb (arrogance). It is narrated that those who have just a small amount of arrogance won't even smell paradise, because a persons value and worth is from Allah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Allah) and Allah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Allah) alone It is also narrated that those who listen to someones private conversations will have molten metal poured into their ears.
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Those Whom Allah will not speak to
Allah will not speak to those who concealed knowledge - their mouths will be filled with fire on Qiyama It is narrated by Muslim (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Sahih_Muslim) and Abu Dharr (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php?title=Abu_Dharr&action=edit) that 3 people will be ignored
Al-Nasbil - those who wore long clothes dragging behind them out of pride
The one who sold goods by false oaths
The person who reminds others of the favours he has done (you remember when i did this, and that for you) In another Hadith the following will be ignored by Allah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Allah)
Those that did not give their excess water to a traveller - as this excess water belongs to a traveller by right
Someone who makes an oath on merchandise after Asr - i.e those who lie in order to get rid of the goods quickly
Someone who gives Bayah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php?title=Bayah&action=edit) to the Imaam (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Imaam) when times are good, but changes allegiance when times are difficult In another narration those who commit crimes unnecessarily such as
An old man who commits Zina (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php?title=Zina&action=edit)
A King who lies
A poor person who is arrogant. According to the narration of Ahmed
those that are cruel to their parents
The women who is masculine like a man
The man who is indifferent to his families sins. [edit (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php?title=Qiyama&action=edit§ion=10)]
The believers
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References
Anwar Al-Awlaki (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php?title=Anwar_Al-Awlaki&action=edit) - the hearafter
.: Anna :.
10-10-06, 10:22 PM
oh wow where did u get that summary from? jazakallah khayr. nice to hav all the info summed up briefly in writing :)
Imam Anwar Al Awlaki. There are 2 cd sets by him on the hereafter, having about 10 cds or so per set? also he does all dif topics aswell like I listened 2 the Abu Bakr set before and some of the lives of the prophets... ne lectures by him I really recommend masha allah. He puts a lot of detail and you really learn something, also he is quite captivating speaker. You enjoy to listen :)
& ameen 2 ur dua
mashallah they sound excellent, my bros are into this at the moment so will inshallah try and get my hands on them, anywhere u recomend buying them from? (preferably online please)
.: Anna :.
10-10-06, 10:25 PM
erm... sorry 2 admit it but mine are jst downloaded i dnt hav the material cds :( i kno u cn buy em in RPM tho. My bro in law has the real versions, not sure where he got em from
erm... sorry 2 admit it but mine are jst downloaded i dnt hav the material cds :( i kno u cn buy em in RPM tho. My bro in law has the real versions, not sure where he got em from
i dont know how to d/l and burn onto cds :(
i will inshallah try and locate them :)
i found them, thers a clip on here u can listen to some of them :)
http://www.simplyislam.com/iteminfo.asp?item=54462
.: Anna :.
10-10-06, 10:38 PM
yeh thats the one!
yeh thats the one!
right im gonna try and find it with a better price , if not i buy this one :up:
j/k sis
Torn.Rose
10-10-06, 10:42 PM
right im gonna try and find it with a better price , if not i buy this one :up:
j/k sis
MG...can u let me know where you find then if you do please...u seem to be havin more luk!
MG...can u let me know where you find then if you do please...u seem to be havin more luk!
inshallah will do
Genghis Cohn
11-10-06, 11:06 AM
well i personally think that rejecting the way of life that Allah has ordained for us is pretty bad. Is it absolutely bad, though? Bad enough to torture people horribly for ever? Assuming that it actually is "the way of life that Allah has ordained for us", as we don't have very good evidence and no very good reasons to think that that is so.
if we was in a day and age where knowledge wasnt so easily accessable(ur on the internet now...but u can always do ur own research and make ur own judgements)and in books and on cd and dvd and every other which way u get all other knowledge...there is no reason for anyone to question the path that Allah (swt)has ordained for us.
The problem is that I have done all these things and I don't think islam is true, and- if it were true- I don't think it worth following.
Allah (http://www.muslimwikipedia.com/mw/index.php/Allah) will ask the disbelievers. "Would you be willing to pay the weight of the whole world in Gold to save yourself". They will reply yes.We cannot foresee what will happen in unforeseen eventualities. However, speaking for myself, I hope I would do nothing of the sort. I am perfectly willing to go hell if i am persauaded I deserve to; however, I have never yet heard any believer in any religion produce arguments that would justify sending anyone to hell for ever.
.: Anna :.
11-10-06, 02:33 PM
Genghis maybe when u see it you might change ur mind about "willing to go to hell"
I think there is an ayah, none of you will be able to have Sabr with the hellfire...
Torn.Rose
11-10-06, 02:43 PM
Is it absolutely bad, though? Bad enough to torture people horribly for ever? Assuming that it actually is "the way of life that Allah has ordained for us", as we don't have very good evidence and no very good reasons to think that that is so.
The problem is that I have done all these things and I don't think islam is true, and- if it were true- I don't think it worth following.
We cannot foresee what will happen in unforeseen eventualities. However, speaking for myself, I hope I would do nothing of the sort. I am perfectly willing to go hell if i am persauaded I deserve to; however, I have never yet heard any believer in any religion produce arguments that would justify sending anyone to hell for ever.
thats incredibly arrogant you know!
we all have plans...i have plans for 2mrw but until i wake up in the morning Insha'Allah i dont know if things are gona change. same as the way u are thinking...ur saying u will ask Allah questions and u are willing to go to hell for the sins u feel deserve the hellfire but once ur in ur grave...once ur face to face with those questions...u duno what ur gona do.
can i ask why think Islam is made up?
Genghis Cohn
11-10-06, 03:59 PM
thats incredibly arrogant you know! what is arrogant about it? Surely it is more arrogant to believe taht the creator of the universe, omnipotent and omniscient, is interested in the trivial activities of a petty species on an insignificant planet going round a commonplace sun like several thousand million others.
we all have plans...i have plans for 2mrw but until i wake up in the morning Insha'Allah i dont know if things are gona change. same as the way u are thinking...ur saying u will ask Allah questions and u are willing to go to hell for the sins u feel deserve the hellfire but once ur in ur grave...once ur face to face with those questions...u duno what ur gona do.That's what I said: "We cannot foresee what will happen in unforeseen eventualities. However, speaking for myself, I hope..."
can i ask why think Islam is made up?I don't see why it shouldn't be. None of the so-called miracles of the quran appear at all miraculous to me. I don't think there's any reason to think there is a god or gods or- if they should exist- that they are anything like the way humans have imagined them or that there is any reason to show they are at all interested in us or that they will share a sense of morality in any way resembnling that of human beings. In addition, I think that for moral reasons- the concept of eternal damnation- and intellectual reasons- the contradictioon between alleged free will for humans and god's omnipotence and omniscience- it is not a belief that deserves to be considered.
Imam Anwar Al Awlaki. There are 2 cd sets by him on the hereafter, having about 10 cds or so per set? also he does all dif topics aswell like I listened 2 the Abu Bakr set before and some of the lives of the prophets... ne lectures by him I really recommend masha allah. He puts a lot of detail and you really learn something, also he is quite captivating speaker. You enjoy to listen :)
& ameen 2 ur dua
is this the same one sis, the one your talking about ?
would these CDs play in the UK?
cos it seems it would be cheaper to buy from this american site, for about £25.00 + £10.00 shipping and you will save about £20.00 :)
Torn.Rose
11-10-06, 08:14 PM
"what is arrogant about it? Surely it is more arrogant to believe taht the creator of the universe, omnipotent and omniscient, is interested in the trivial activities of a petty species on an insignificant planet going round a commonplace sun like several thousand million others."
ok...Allah only has to say to something "be"and it is. he created everything on this earth and in the heavens...the quran tells us that!so how can u say that he is not concerned with anything on this planet or any of us....we are all his creation!
how do u believe u got here...apart from the obvious...but as in humanity?
Genghis Cohn
12-10-06, 11:05 AM
ok...Allah only has to say to something "be"and it is. he created everything on this earth and in the heavens...the quran tells us that!so how can u say that he is not concerned with anything on this planet or any of us....we are all his creation!But are we important enough parts of his creation to warrant the attention that you believe will be given to us? From a moral view, as god said "be" and we were, exactly as god knew we would be, does god have the right to punish us at all- let alone for ever- for doing what we were meant to do from the first?
how do u believe u got here...apart from the obvious...but as in humanity?
Well, the obvious way is good enough for me. Humanity came about, I think [I try not to believe- I don't think it's a good idea to believe], as a result of evolution. If you mean- how did the universe come to be here, i don't know. But, then, how did god- in the muslim sense- come to be here? There has to be a starting point somewhere. Muslims start with god who is just "there" and made the universe, I start with the universe, which is just "there".
The interesting question, someone said, is "Why is there something rather than nothing?"
Torn.Rose
12-10-06, 09:21 PM
But are we important enough parts of his creation to warrant the attention that you believe will be given to us? From a moral view, as god said "be" and we were, exactly as god knew we would be, does god have the right to punish us at all- let alone for ever- for doing what we were meant to do from the first?
Well, the obvious way is good enough for me. Humanity came about, I think [I try not to believe- I don't think it's a good idea to believe], as a result of evolution. If you mean- how did the universe come to be here, i don't know. But, then, how did god- in the muslim sense- come to be here? There has to be a starting point somewhere. Muslims start with god who is just "there" and made the universe, I start with the universe, which is just "there".
The interesting question, someone said, is "Why is there something rather than nothing?"
Allah made us the most intelligent of his creation! the ones who can follow him and worship him. of course we are important enough for him to care. Allah (swt) i nothing like u or I. he is above all of us...i dont exactly know what to expect but u cant compare him to a human.
personally i think Allah (swt) give u all leeway to make mistakes and to follow his path. i believe that he does know what is to become of us...but it is not all written so it i not all gouverned by him. i believe certain parts of our destiny are determined by him and him alone but not all cuz there he has given us the free will to live how we see fit...and for me...thats living for the ake of Allah...i was christian before i converted to Islam but i just know that i am on the right path now.
As for the history of evolution...do u believe u originated from a gorilla or ape or whateva its ment to be?(i think its rubbih so dont pay too much attention).
if u do ...how did they get here?
Genghis Cohn
13-10-06, 10:48 AM
Allah made us the most intelligent of his creation! the ones who can follow him and worship him. of course we are important enough for him to care. ...which is a very arrogant opinion, don't you think? The whole enormous universe, thousands of millions of yeras old, spreading across millions of millions of millions of miles, and you think the human race is both the "most intelligent" beings in it and important enough for god to care more than about everything else.Allah (swt) i nothing like u or I. he is above all of us...i dont exactly know what to expect but u cant compare him to a human. If allah says something is good then allah as well as humans to live by that quality.
personally i think Allah (swt) give u all leeway to make mistakes and to follow his path. i believe that he does know what is to become of us...but it is not all written so it i not all gouverned by him. i believe certain parts of our destiny are determined by him and him alone but not all cuz there he has given us the free will to live how we see fit...and for me...thats living for the ake of Allah...i was christian before i converted to Islam but i just know that i am on the right path now. Are you saying the quran is wrong when it says that allah knows all things, that allah determines our ends, that allah blinds people or leads them to islam? Presumably before you were a muslim you "just knew"- mistakenly, you now just know- that you were on the right path then.
As for the history of evolution...do u believe u originated from a gorilla or ape or whateva its ment to be?(i think its rubbih so dont pay too much attention).
if u do ...how did they get here?They were descended from something else in turn. While we're at it, how did allah get there?
While we're at it, how did allah get there?
allah swt has always been there, he didnt "get there".
After all your tactless babbling, u still cant answer the questions in the first post, instead u say u will be the one questioning allah swt, the arrogance is jus to much to bear.
Arrogance is one of the most hated characteristics in a human being and i can see why.
Very sad indeed.
Genghis Cohn
31-10-06, 10:47 AM
allah swt has always been there, he didnt "get there"....and I think the universe has always been there, it didn't just get there.
After all your tactless babbling, u still cant answer the questions in the first post, instead u say u will be the one questioning allah swt, the arrogance is jus to much to bear. I'm sorry if I seem tactless: you asked what we would say in a certain eventuality and I tried to answer honestly. The very fact that no-one here has been able to convincingly answer my questions is pretty good evidence that they require an answer and a justification from a more authoritative source. If we are going to be judged fairly then the fairness of the judgment will have to be demonstrated to everyone, including those of us who receive adverse judgments, so my questions will need to be answered.
Arrogance is one of the most hated characteristics in a human being and i can see why.
Very sad indeed.What is arrogant about wanting answers to questions?
[quote=Genghis Cohn;1362433]...and I think the universe has always been there, it didn't just get there.
i have the quran to back it up, its not somethnig ive jus plucked out of th air, what do u have for your opinons, besides (its wat i believe)
I'm sorry if I seem tactless: you asked what we would say in a certain eventuality and I tried to answer honestly.
u didnt answer the questions posed full stop, so would it be to much to ask u to answer the intial questions posed in post 1?
The very fact that no-one here has been able to convincingly answer my questions is pretty good evidence that they require an answer and a justification from a more authoritative source.
Dont judge others when u have been yourself avoiding the questions posed to u in this thread - i dont think its about people not eing able to answer u, i think after a while it feels like ur talking to a brick wall and people dont like to continue to waste time talking to u (no offence) i wouldnt see that as a "victory" of being right.
If we are going to be judged fairly then the fairness of the judgment will have to be demonstrated to everyone, including those of us who receive adverse judgments, so my questions will need to be answered.
Fair judgement does not mean, sending everyone to heavan as allah swt says, if u did and atom of evil u will see it, if u did a atom of good u will see it, but be aware that punishemnts for a crime in this world are nothing compared to punishments for the same crime in the herafter. So i hope inshallah i get my punishetns for my bad deeds in this world and allah swt doesnt leave my punishments till the hereafter.
What is arrogant about wanting answers to questions?
you have to answer questions posed to b4 asking others questions.
like i said, from personal experince, no offence but i find talking to u is like talking to a brick wall, u can bang your head against it but it jus doesnt budge ,come right or wrong opinon.
i look forward to your answers.
Genghis Cohn
31-10-06, 12:59 PM
...and I think the universe has always been there, it didn't just get there.
i have the quran to back it up, its not somethnig ive jus plucked out of th air, what do u have for your opinons, besides (its wat i believe)
And I have logic and William of Ockham to back me up. It's what I don't believe, actually, not it's what I believe.
I'm sorry if I seem tactless: you asked what we would say in a certain eventuality and I tried to answer honestly.
u didnt answer the questions posed full stop, so would it be to much to ask u to answer the intial questions posed in post 1?
I'll do so, as I'm a kindly chap and you seem a little worked up about them. However, if someone or something starts asking personal questions I want to know what right it has to do so before I answer them.
The very fact that no-one here has been able to convincingly answer my questions is pretty good evidence that they require an answer and a justification from a more authoritative source.
Dont judge others when u have been yourself avoiding the questions posed to u in this thread - i dont think its about people not eing able to answer u, i think after a while it feels like ur talking to a brick wall and people dont like to continue to waste time talking to u (no offence) i wouldnt see that as a "victory" of being right. Funny. I could say the same thing.
If we are going to be judged fairly then the fairness of the judgment will have to be demonstrated to everyone, including those of us who receive adverse judgments, so my questions will need to be answered.
Fair judgement does not mean, sending everyone to heavan as allah swt says, if u did and atom of evil u will see it, if u did a atom of good u will see it, but be aware that punishemnts for a crime in this world are nothing compared to punishments for the same crime in the herafter. So i hope inshallah i get my punishetns for my bad deeds in this world and allah swt doesnt leave my punishments till the hereafter.
Where did I say fair judgment does mean sending everyone to heaven? As I said, I think that both heaven and hell are disproportionate to what they are rewards or punishments for and so equally unjust. If punishments- and rewrds- in this world and the next are nothing compared with punishments in the next, isn't that unjust? What is arrogant about wanting answers to questions?
you have to answer questions posed to b4 asking others questions.
like i said, from personal experince, no offence but i find talking to u is like talking to a brick wall, u can bang your head against it but it jus doesnt budge ,come right or wrong opinon.
i look forward to your answers.Like I said, I need to have confirmation that something has a right to ask questions before I'll consider answering them.
Your questions:
How did you spend the time in your life?
How did you use the knowledge you had?
How did you acquire and spend your wealth?
How did you utilise the body that you were given?The answer to every question is "Enjoyably and/or usefully." In fact, as god is supposed to know everything, there is no need for god to ask the question or for anyone to answer it, as god knew what our answers would be long before he made us.
And I have logic and William of Ockham to back me up. It's what I don't believe, actually, not it's what I believe.
I'll do so, as I'm a kindly chap and you seem a little worked up about them. However, if someone or something starts asking personal questions I want to know what right it has to do so before I answer them.
Funny. I could say the same thing.
Where did I say fair judgment does mean sending everyone to heaven? As I said, I think that both heaven and hell are disproportionate to what they are rewards or punishments for and so equally unjust. If punishments- and rewrds- in this world and the next are nothing compared with punishments in the next, isn't that unjust? Like I said, I need to have confirmation that something has a right to ask questions before I'll consider answering them.
Your questions: The answer to every question is "Enjoyably and/or usefully." In fact, as god is supposed to know everything, there is no need for god to ask the question or for anyone to answer it, as god knew what our answers would be long before he made us.
at last he answers, after 3/4 pages of total...anywho..
so your response to each question is : "Enjoyably and/or usefully" hmmm.. ok
one thing i will agree with u is allah swt will know everything, but he will still ask US.
I hope for your sake those answers change b4 your death...allah swt knows best
sapphire_blue
01-11-06, 12:13 AM
Isn't there also one on the Day of Judgement about how you spent your youth??
Before this we also have to face the three questions in the grave
- Who is your Rab?
- What is your Religion?
- And who your Prophet?
May Allah give us all the strength to answer these questions correctly. Ameen
Isn't there also one on the Day of Judgement about how you spent your youth??
Before this we also have to face the three questions in the grave
- Who is your Rab?
- What is your Religion?
- And who your Prophet?
May Allah give us all the strength to answer these questions correctly. Ameen
Ameen sis, ameen. May allah swt make it easy for us.
Alot of people think "oh those are easy questions to answer" but when we are in our grave, the answers (if u know them) will not come forth so easily.
Genghis Cohn
01-11-06, 04:46 PM
at last he answers, after 3/4 pages of total...anywho..
so your response to each question is : "Enjoyably and/or usefully" hmmm.. ok
one thing i will agree with u is allah swt will know everything, but he will still ask US. why? No need to.
I hope for your sake those answers change b4 your death...allah swt knows best
That's what he says. I think he made a big mistake in creating the world before he created me. It means he missed some very useful advice.
kalaliah
03-11-06, 03:37 PM
As Salaamu Waalaikum
Jazakallahu Khayran for the reminder Ukhtee that was very beneficial & actually i think about that everyday masha'allah!
I don't know what my response will be of course but insha'allah Ta'ala may my responses please Allah Subhan'allah Wa Ta'ala Ameen
I was listening to this lecture "Day of Yau Mid Deen" & the Ahkee gave alot of good nasihah but it was one point that stuck out was how much emphasized that we as muslims spend so much time preparing for the life of this world like furthering your education, getting promotions at work, building a business and etc., but how much time do we spent preparing for The Day Of Judgement?
Well personally that gave me alot to think about because i spend alot of time trying to quote on quote "perfect" situations in this life that i neglect my responsibilities as a muslim as far as staying steadfast in preparing for the meeting with Allah Ta'ala
Al-humduillah! that helped me change my focus and I'm striving to prepare for that meeting and insha'allah for those who share my situation my story has helped you as well
May Allah Ta'ala give us all Taufiq to strive towards preparing for that day Ameen
Allah made us the most intelligent of his creation! the ones who can follow him and worship him. of course we are important enough for him to care. Allah (swt) i nothing like u or I. he is above all of us...i dont exactly know what to expect but u cant compare him to a human.
personally i think Allah (swt) give u all leeway to make mistakes and to follow his path. i believe that he does know what is to become of us...but it is not all written so it i not all gouverned by him. i believe certain parts of our destiny are determined by him and him alone but not all cuz there he has given us the free will to live how we see fit...and for me...thats living for the ake of Allah...i was christian before i converted to Islam but i just know that i am on the right path now.
As for the history of evolution...do u believe u originated from a gorilla or ape or whateva its ment to be?(i think its rubbih so dont pay too much attention).
if u do ...how did they get here?
I wouldn't say we are the most intelligent species, the difference is that we can talk. Are you saying that you could weave a replica of a spider's web or build a nest like wasps do, for instance? Millions of other creatures do super intelligent things.
if you are living a lie in life you will lie, but you wont be able to speak cause parts of your body will speak for you, your eyes saw this, your ears heard this etc...its scary!
I think you would be too scared to question Allah, its like a story i read somewhere that you would be so scared to do anything in front of Allah like a pregant women was standing in front of Allah, she was so scared then she gave birth and didn't even look twice at the child.
why? No need to.
That's what he says. I think he made a big mistake in creating the world before he created me. It means he missed some very useful advice.
u will be surpised to know genghis that u are really famous (no i dont want your autograph) allah swt has talked about u quite extensively in the 3 holy books........check under "Arrogance" :rolleyes:
Genghis Cohn
04-11-06, 07:49 AM
I wouldn't say we are the most intelligent species, the difference is that we can talk. Are you saying that you could weave a replica of a spider's web or build a nest like wasps do, for instance? Millions of other creatures do super intelligent things.
You or I could build something like a wasp's nest or a spider's web- not very well, of course, but we could see how it is done and do it. Wasps and spiders are able to do nothing else- it isn't intelligence but billions of generations of evolution/god's design for them dependingon how you look at it.
u will be surpised to know genghis that u are really famous (no i dont want your autograph) allah swt has talked about u quite extensively in the 3 holy books........check under "Arrogance" :rolleyes:
It would astonish me profoundly, actually. I think it is arrogance to suppose that- if there is a god at all- we are important enough for it to be interested in or even much aware of our existence.
You still haven't said why god is going to ask us questions if he already knows the answers. Is there any record of god answering your questions himself?
I can see the day of the judgment. There I am, peacefully kipping in my grave, when:
"Knock. Knock."
"Who's there?"
"Allah."
"Allah Who?"
"I ASK THE QUESTIONS!"
You or I could build something like a wasp's nest or a spider's web- not very well, of course, but we could see how it is done and do it. Wasps and spiders are able to do nothing else- it isn't intelligence but billions of generations of evolution/god's design for them dependingon how you look at it.
It would astonish me profoundly, actually. I think it is arrogance to suppose that- if there is a god at all- we are important enough for it to be interested in or even much aware of our existence.
You still haven't said why god is going to ask us questions if he already knows the answers. Is there any record of god answering your questions himself?
I can see the day of the judgment. There I am, peacefully kipping in my grave, when:
"Knock. Knock."
"Who's there?"
"Allah."
"Allah Who?"
"I ASK THE QUESTIONS!"
allah swt will still ask, even tho he knows, i havent read a specific reason.
When he asks the angels "how did u leave so-and-so" when u came to me, they tell him how they left that person i.e. doing what.
Somethimes he asks them the angels say "allah swt knows best" becos they know he already knows.
I doubt very much u will be kipping peacufully in your grave...
I suggest u listen to a lecture called "The Hereafter Series" by imam anwaer al awlaki, all your questions about what will happen to u will be answered, wether u belive them or not.
How can u not be important to allah swt when he is the one that created u? he is the one telling to u tread the write path? he is the one who has sent guidance down to u from above, as mercy for u?
the reason u will be questioned becuase jus as u go thru tests and trials thru your life in this world (or do non-belivers not go thru tests and trials in life?) u will be tested in the hereafter too, and thse tests are there to see and show who is worthy of entering hell and heavan.
Genghis Cohn
04-11-06, 05:45 PM
allah swt will still ask, even tho he knows, i havent read a specific reason.
When he asks the angels "how did u leave so-and-so" when u came to me, they tell him how they left that person i.e. doing what.
Somethimes he asks them the angels say "allah swt knows best" becos they know he already knows. Well, i wonder, actually. Either allah is asking questions he knows the answer to and doesn't need to ask or he doesn't know the answer but won't say so.
I doubt very much u will be kipping peacufully in your grave...
I suggest u listen to a lecture called "The Hereafter Series" by imam anwaer al awlaki, all your questions about what will happen to u will be answered, wether u belive them or not. But will my questions be answered convincingly?
Are they written down anywhere? I find it is much easier and quicker to analyse arguments in written form than when they are spoken.
How can u not be important to allah swt when he is the one that created u? he is the one telling to u tread the write path? he is the one who has sent guidance down to u from above, as mercy for u? Well allah done an enormous number of other things. We are mere cogs in his Great cosmological Plan. As he had already decided what we were goibg to dothere wasn't much point in sending us guidance, except to help him fill in the equivalent of time.
the reason u will be questioned becuase jus as u go thru tests and trials thru your life in this world (or do non-belivers not go thru tests and trials in life?) u will be tested in the hereafter too, and thse tests are there to see and show who is worthy of entering hell and heavan.
As I said before, no-one is worthy of entering either heaven or hell, because both as ounishment and as reward both are disproportionate. As allah knew the results of the tests and trials before we underwent them he didn't need to give us them either.
Well, i wonder, actually. Either allah is asking questions he knows the answer to and doesn't need to ask or he doesn't know the answer but won't say so.
But will my questions be answered convincingly?
Are they written down anywhere? I find it is much easier and quicker to analyse arguments in written form than when they are spoken.
Well allah done an enormous number of other things. We are mere cogs in his Great cosmological Plan. As he had already decided what we were goibg to dothere wasn't much point in sending us guidance, except to help him fill in the equivalent of time.
As I said before, no-one is worthy of entering either heaven or hell, because both as ounishment and as reward both are disproportionate. As allah knew the results of the tests and trials before we underwent them he didn't need to give us them either.
ok genghis, i see u have ur own way of thinking, and we will be here all day talking, so u carry on and thanks for answering the questions.
Genghis Cohn
04-11-06, 06:50 PM
I was just beginning to enjoy myself too...
I was just beginning to enjoy myself too...
then u need to get a life :D
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