Qur'an hadeeth and later traditions

[carol_au]

Salaam everyone,

In light of the question I asked earlier this week..(about hadith or Surah that allowed muslims/commanded muslims to "mark" Christians and Jews I have another question

In the coming Caliphate you are all waiting for.. would the Shariah that is introduced have only those laws that were set in place at the time of the Prophet and first four caliphs. . or is it permissable to also include the laws introduced in later caliphates?

[bilalbasrawi]

Salaam everyone,

In light of the question I asked earlier this week..(about hadith or Surah that allowed muslims/commanded muslims to "mark" Christians and Jews I have another question

In the coming Caliphate you are all waiting for.. would the Shariah that is introduced have only those laws that were set in place at the time of the Prophet and first four caliphs. . or is it permissable to also include the laws introduced in later caliphates?

Please read the following:

It is possible that Allah has put the Muslim Ummah in such a difficult situation, because they have abandoned the Qur'an and have taken in its place the Hadith? The Book of God is the only Truth. The Hadith cannot be used for guidelines, but it can only be used for its historical value or facts. During the time of Prophet Muhammad, every Muslim was prosperous, because the Hadith did not exist than. Even a while after his death (pbuh), there was still prosperity, but when the Hadith came along, a book in which no one had permission from Prophet Muhammad nor any authority from God to write, Islam began to crumble.

Many Muslims have come to idolize the Prophet Muhammad: "Say (O Muhammad), 'I am no more than a human being like you. It has been revealed to me that your God is ONE GOD. Therefore, you shall observe Him ALONE, and ask His forgiveness, AND WOE TO THE IDOLWORSHIPERS.'" (41:6)

Why is the Hadith unacceptable:

"Shall I seek OTHER THAN GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed THIS BOOK FULLY DETAILED? ....The word of your Lord is COMPLETE, in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words; He is the hearer, the omniscient. Yet, if you obey the majority of people, they will take you away from the path of God. That is because they follow CONJECTURE, and they fail to think." (6:114-116)

"They insist upon following conjecture, when the guidance is given to them herein from their Lord." (53:23)

The Prophet Muhammad:"O prophet, if the believing women come to you and pledge that they will not idolize anything beside God, nor steal, nor commit adultery, nor kill their children, nor produce any falsehood, nor disobey you WHEN YOU ARE RIGHT, you shall accept their pledge, and ask God to forgive them." (60:12)

"Anything good that happens to you (O Muhammad) is from God. And anything bad that happens to you is from you. We have sent you as a messenger to the people, and God suffices as a witness. Whoever obeys the messenger is obeying God. As for those who turn away, we did not send you as their guardian." (4:79-80)

The Quran gives numerous examples that we must obey what Muhammad uttered as a messenger of God, and NOT NECESSARILY what he uttered as a man. As a messenger, he uttered Quran, and nothing but Quran.

Much of the Hadith has caused a perversion in Islam...Furthermore, the Quran teaches that Muhammad the man actually committed serious errors. Thus, in the verse shown below we see that God wished to establish a law whereby a man can marry the divorced wife of his adopted son. Muhammad was to be our example. However, this was contrary to the traditions of Arabia, and the Prophet actually "feared the people instead of fearing God."

"You said to the one blessed by God and blessed by you, 'Do not divorce your wife, and observe God.' Thus, you hid in yourself what God wanted to declare, and you feared the people when God is the one you should fear. Then, when Zeid (Muhammad's adopted son) finally divorced her, we had you marry her. This was done to show that the believing men are allowed to marry the divorced wives of their adopted sons. The commands of God shall be carried out." (33:37)

The followers of Hadith and sunna' do not follow their own teachings:
"Abi Saeed AlKhudry may God be pleased with him reported that the messenger of God may God exalt him & grant him peace had said, 'Do not write anything from me EXCEPT QURAN. Anyone who wrote anything other than Quran shall erase it.'"

"The messenger of God ordered us never to write anything of his Hadith." (Reported by Ibn Hanbal)

"If Quran is complete and fully detailed (as God says), where can we find the details of Salat prayers?"

This famous question reveals their total ignorance of Quran and a subconscious effort to prove that God is wrong in His repeated assertions that Quran is "complete" and "fully detailed."

For the Quran teaches in no uncertain terms that Abraham is the founder of Islam as it is practiced today. As such, what did Abraham contribute to our daily life as Muslims?

The Quran teaches that ALL RELIGIOUS PRACTICES IN ISLAM (Salat, Zakat, Fasting & Hajj) CAME TO US FROM ABRAHAM, GENERATION AFTER GENERATION.

Thus, Islam in its final form, as is practiced today, is based on two things:
(1) QURAN: contributed through Muhammad, and (2) RELIGIOUS PRACTICES: through Abraham.

Asalamu 'Alaykum
Peace!

"(On the day of judgment) the messenger will say, 'My Lord; my people have deserted THIS QURAN.' We thus set up against every prophet enemies from among the guilty. Your LORD SUFFICES AS A GUIDE AND SUPPORTER." (25:30-31)

[GothiKa]

Please read the following:

It is possible that Allah has put the Muslim Ummah in such a difficult situation, because they have abandoned the Qur'an and have taken in its place the Hadith? The Book of God is the only Truth. The Hadith cannot be used for guidelines, but it can only be used for its historical value or facts. During the time of Prophet Muhammad, every Muslim was prosperous, because the Hadith did not exist than. Even a while after his death (pbuh), there was still prosperity, but when the Hadith came along, a book in which no one had permission from Prophet Muhammad nor any authority from God to write, Islam began to crumble.

Many Muslims have come to idolize the Prophet Muhammad: "Say (O Muhammad), 'I am no more than a human being like you. It has been revealed to me that your God is ONE GOD. Therefore, you shall observe Him ALONE, and ask His forgiveness, AND WOE TO THE IDOLWORSHIPERS.'" (41:6)

Why is the Hadith unacceptable:

"Shall I seek OTHER THAN GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed THIS BOOK FULLY DETAILED? ....The word of your Lord is COMPLETE, in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words; He is the hearer, the omniscient. Yet, if you obey the majority of people, they will take you away from the path of God. That is because they follow CONJECTURE, and they fail to think." (6:114-116)

"They insist upon following conjecture, when the guidance is given to them herein from their Lord." (53:23)

The Prophet Muhammad:"O prophet, if the believing women come to you and pledge that they will not idolize anything beside God, nor steal, nor commit adultery, nor kill their children, nor produce any falsehood, nor disobey you WHEN YOU ARE RIGHT, you shall accept their pledge, and ask God to forgive them." (60:12)

"Anything good that happens to you (O Muhammad) is from God. And anything bad that happens to you is from you. We have sent you as a messenger to the people, and God suffices as a witness. Whoever obeys the messenger is obeying God. As for those who turn away, we did not send you as their guardian." (4:79-80)

The Quran gives numerous examples that we must obey what Muhammad uttered as a messenger of God, and NOT NECESSARILY what he uttered as a man. As a messenger, he uttered Quran, and nothing but Quran.

Much of the Hadith has caused a perversion in Islam...Furthermore, the Quran teaches that Muhammad the man actually committed serious errors. Thus, in the verse shown below we see that God wished to establish a law whereby a man can marry the divorced wife of his adopted son. Muhammad was to be our example. However, this was contrary to the traditions of Arabia, and the Prophet actually "feared the people instead of fearing God."

"You said to the one blessed by God and blessed by you, 'Do not divorce your wife, and observe God.' Thus, you hid in yourself what God wanted to declare, and you feared the people when God is the one you should fear. Then, when Zeid (Muhammad's adopted son) finally divorced her, we had you marry her. This was done to show that the believing men are allowed to marry the divorced wives of their adopted sons. The commands of God shall be carried out." (33:37)

The followers of Hadith and sunna' do not follow their own teachings:
"Abi Saeed AlKhudry may God be pleased with him reported that the messenger of God may God exalt him & grant him peace had said, 'Do not write anything from me EXCEPT QURAN. Anyone who wrote anything other than Quran shall erase it.'"

"The messenger of God ordered us never to write anything of his Hadith." (Reported by Ibn Hanbal)

"If Quran is complete and fully detailed (as God says), where can we find the details of Salat prayers?"

This famous question reveals their total ignorance of Quran and a subconscious effort to prove that God is wrong in His repeated assertions that Quran is "complete" and "fully detailed."

For the Quran teaches in no uncertain terms that Abraham is the founder of Islam as it is practiced today. As such, what did Abraham contribute to our daily life as Muslims?

The Quran teaches that ALL RELIGIOUS PRACTICES IN ISLAM (Salat, Zakat, Fasting & Hajj) CAME TO US FROM ABRAHAM, GENERATION AFTER GENERATION.

Thus, Islam in its final form, as is practiced today, is based on two things:
(1) QURAN: contributed through Muhammad, and (2) RELIGIOUS PRACTICES: through Abraham.

Asalamu 'Alaykum
Peace!

"(On the day of judgment) the messenger will say, 'My Lord; my people have deserted THIS QURAN.' We thus set up against every prophet enemies from among the guilty. Your LORD SUFFICES AS A GUIDE AND SUPPORTER." (25:30-31)

More nonsense from a Hadith rejector

[Cardo]

More nonsense from a Hadith rejector

... and a Rashid Khalifa follower
:nono::nono:

[Ibn Sina]

... and a Rashid Khalifa follower
:nono::nono:

Didn't they even change the Kalima to exclude the Prophet :saw: name? They evn tried to take out two verses from the Quran relying on, you guessed it, a FAKE hadith, kinda hypocritical isn't it?

[carol_au]

It still makes interesting reading.. but besides whether it's true or not, please could someone answer my question.. no one has yet

Thanks