Your Death and Burial

[MG]

a few questions for people, that maybe we dont think about to much but SHOULD:

1) Where would you want to be buried? i.e.muslim country? non-muslim country? or in the country that u die in at the time?


2) would u want to be buried STRAIGHT AWAY or would u want people to put your burial on hold so your family members or your children can see you b4 hand? (i mean remember islamically, we should be buried within 24 hours and also our body will be very sensittive, so would u wanna be waiting around and be lugged allover the place in your sensitive state?)


3) would u buy your "plot" for your grave b4 hand at a specific place or jus request that u be buried whichever country u die in but be buried in a muslim cemetery specifically in that country?


i look forward to your responses!!

[.: Anna :.]

I would want to be buryed in the place in which I die insha Allah, so not to buy a plot but yes just to specify it should be within a Muslim graveyard. I think because Allah has already decided and knows where we will die, and we don't have knowledge of that then there isnt a need to actually plan the grave plot because we may die in some place we totally did not expect. We have to remember that only Allah knows the plan, not us. It's better to be buryed within the 24 hours so insha allah I would rather keep with that than to delay it. But not to be buryed in the night time as I read hadith against that, so it should be in the day time the next day insha allah.

I don't have that much knowledge about fiqh of burial and these matters :s insha allah I just want it to be done in accordance with sunnah and the correct Islamic way.

[MMS]

imagine being buried in jannat-al Baqi :love:

[MG]

I would want to be buryed in the place in which I die insha Allah, so not to buy a plot but yes just to specify it should be within a Muslim graveyard. I think because Allah has already decided and knows where we will die, and we don't have knowledge of that then there isnt a need to actually plan the grave plot because we may die in some place we totally did not expect. We have to remember that only Allah knows the plan, not us. It's better to be buryed within the 24 hours so insha allah I would rather keep with that than to delay it. But not to be buryed in the night time as I read hadith against that, so it should be in the day time the next day insha allah.

I don't have that much knowledge about fiqh of burial and these matters :s insha allah I just want it to be done in accordance with sunnah and the correct Islamic way.

wow not to be buried in the night? thats very interesting

would u be able to find that hadith and put it up?

[Al-Nasser]

i want to be vaporized like Muhammad Atta (Rahimahu Allah)

[MG]

come on people, these are serious questions and i would like your genuine responses on it, cos i dont htink we as muslims think about these details as much as we should.

So far only sis anna has answered seriously....*ahem* *ahem* akhi al nasser and MMS!!:D

[Al-Nasser]

wallahi i am serious

[MMS]

i did answer it sort of
i'd like to die and be buried in madinah

but if i happen to die somewhere else then i'd have to be burried in that place, i'd like to be buried straight away :(

[MG]

wallahi i am serious

so what if u die and it wasnt in the way u wanted?

i mean wouldnt u want to specify b4hand to your family etc how and in wat manner you would like to be buried? i.e. the things i have stated initially in my post?

wat if they lug your body around cos they wanna bury u in egypt and u died in ... pakistan for example, can u imagine how much pain your dead body would feel?

etc etc?

[MG]

i did answer it sort of
i'd like to die and be buried in madinah

but if i happen to die somewhere else then i'd have to be burried in that place, i'd like to be buried straight away :(

its scary thinking about it i know, but someone i spoke to made me think about all this :(

would u want your burial to be put on hold ,i.e. so your family members or your children (future) can come see u b4 u go?

[MMS]

i dont actually find it all that scary for some reason, i know it can be sad for the people you leave behind but when u think of it as one step closer to meeting Allah it jus sorta takes the fear away, well it does for me anyway :p

if my family could make it within 24hours, i dont think i'd want them to see my body but i'd like them to be at the janazah

[Al-Nasser]

pain my dead body would feel??

there is nothing like that......the dead body feel no pain!!

i believe it is about the family......they want the loved one to be buried close to where they live so they can visit the grave every now and then

but as for the dead himself....i don't believe it make difference

[MG]

pain my dead body would feel??

there is nothing like that......the dead body feel no pain!!

i believe it is about the family......they want the loved one to be buried close to where they live so they can visit the grave every now and then

but as for the dead himself....i don't believe it make difference

i have read that your soul is still alive in your body, therefore your body must be handled carefully , becos it will be sensitve and still feel pain if inflicted with some, intentionally or unintentionally, i.e. lets say the body falls while your bathing it or it gets thrown about or banged in to something while in transit back to the deceased's home country?>

[Aasiya]

This is interesting, MG. But, I don't think I'd dwell on the intricacies of my burial in such a way. I mean, when you're dead, you're dead. You're in the barzakh. You're not really as hung-up on the ceremonial send-off to the next world as you are of answering to Munkar and to Nakir.

What Allah (swt) wills for me will be what is best for me. Insh'allah. If He wills that I die drowning in the sea, - lost amid the crashing waves of the Atlantic, - then I will gladly succumb to my fate. And I would be pleased with that, too. I'm really quite easy to please, I'm afraid. :)

[Al-Nasser]

i have read that your soul is still alive in your body, therefore your body must be handled carefully , becos it will be sensitve and still feel pain if inflicted with some, intentionally or unintentionally, i.e. lets say the body falls while your bathing it or it gets thrown about or banged in to something while in transit back to the deceased's home country?>

i am not sure....but i remember this story about Al Hajaj mutilation of Abdullah Ibn Al Zubaiyr (ra) while he was dead.......the mother of Abdullah (Asmaa Bint Abu Bakr) said to Al Hajaj something like "prove your stupidity by doing this to him while he feel absolutely no pain because he is dead"

[ibn suleman]

never thought of this subject before!

but yeah if i had a choice baqi would be best!

but it's probably best to be buried where you die, because you don't want to over burden your family!

but also it doesn't really matter because it won' matter where your buried, cos when your in the grave it becomes a sort of paradise or hell so regardless where ur buried that won't matter! whats more important is that we're able to answer the questions in the grave and our grave is made spacious and we will be able to smell jannah.......insha'Allah.

[Aasiya]

i dont actually find it all that scary for some reason, i know it can be sad for the people you leave behind but when u think of it as one step closer to meeting Allah it jus sorta takes the fear away, well it does for me anyway :p

if my family could make it within 24hours, i dont think i'd want them to see my body but i'd like them to be at the janazah

I am relaxed and accepting of the concept of death. But I just can't deny that to actually behold the spectacle of death would be amazingly tough on the human soul - mentally as well as emotionally as well as spiritually.

Someone once told me,:

"When you come into this world, you cause your mother great pain in child birth. When you leave this world, you experience the pain of your soul ripped from the sinews being born into the barzakh. But this time, you bear the brunt of this great birth. And you realize that God really is Just."

And it's so true. With great pain with come into this world. And with great pain we go into the next. Every birth, though a blessing will cause us immense ruhani pain.

[zaki]

I would like to be buried in an area with other Muslims, i feel less afraid dying cause it can happen then what happens in the grave especially when you sit up and talk to the two angels....very scary!

[Songbird]

This is interesting, MG. But, I don't think I'd dwell on the intricacies of my burial in such a way. I mean, when you're dead, you're dead. You're in the barzakh. You're not really as hung-up on the ceremonial send-off to the next world as you are of answering to Munkar and to Nakir.
Actually not quite Aasiya.

Have you ever been involved in the rituals of washing a deceased sister?

One of the first things you're told is to be gentle with the body. You also use warm water. Both these things are indicative to me at least that the person can feel something. Otherwise you could simply use cold water and so on. One thing about washing a deceased Muslimah I noticed is that you see how at peace they are. It's not like looking at a dead body - they truly do look like they're sleeping and at peace. And we know they're not dead per se as the soul is still living. I would strongly recommend to you all to take part in such a ritual - it should be a mandatory course for us all.

Oh, and yes the soul does go to Barzakh, but I think [?] that only happens, after they've been placed in the earth.

You should ask a Sheikh more questions as obviously I'm not one.

[MG]

This is interesting, MG. But, I don't think I'd dwell on the intricacies of my burial in such a way. I mean, when you're dead, you're dead. You're in the barzakh. You're not really as hung-up on the ceremonial send-off to the next world as you are of answering to Munkar and to Nakir.

What Allah (swt) wills for me will be what is best for me. Insh'allah. If He wills that I die drowning in the sea, - lost amid the crashing waves of the Atlantic, - then I will gladly succumb to my fate. And I would be pleased with that, too. I'm really quite easy to please, I'm afraid. :)

sis i have read u dont go to barzakh straight away, its only wen you have been buried and loved ones start walking away from your grave that Munkar and Nakir come to you :( until then your soul is still in your body.

i personally think thse things should be thought about becos you could be saving your body/soul? alot of pain, if u decide the details of your funeral,i.e. not wanting your body moved around to another country or your burial being delayed so people can wait for your loved ones to come, cos im sure allah swt wants us buried within the 24hrs for good reasons

[MG]

I would like to be buried in an area with other Muslims, i feel less afraid dying cause it can happen then what happens in the grave especially when you sit up and talk to the two angels....very scary!

yes this is what i would want, to be buried in whichever country/city i died and for it to be in a muslim cemetary tho.

Alos i wouldnt want my burial delayed so loved ones can make it to see me, i mean harsh as it sounds, i would want to abide by the sunnah and allah swt and be buried asap, allah knows what suffereing im going to be going thru!!

[Songbird]

sis i have read u dont go to barzakh straight away, its only wen you have been buried and loved ones start walking away from your grave that Munkar and Nakir come to you :( until then your soul is still in your body.
I've heard or read that too. Basically when a person dies it's their body that's dead - i.e the outer 'shell' so to speak.

And yes we're to be buried as soon as possible - alhamdulillah I was able to bury my mother [Allah yerhama] in 11 hours - I think because the soul anxiously wants to leave this realm and go reside in Barzakh. I stand open for correction however.

[.: Anna :.]

wow not to be buried in the night? thats very interesting

would u be able to find that hadith and put it up?

I only have it in Arabic so sorry my translation may not sound so great:

baab fil kafn (chapter about shrouding the dead)

ahmed bin Hanbal related to us, abdurrazaq related to us, Ibn jurayj informed us on the authority of abu zubair that he heard jabir bin abdullah talking about rasoolallah :saws:, that he was giving a speach one day and mentioned one of his companions (a man) had died and been shrouded in a kafn which was not long enough and had been buryed at night. the prophet :saws: rebuked them for burying at night before the bodies had been prayed over, except if someone is forced to do that. and the prophet :saw: said when you shroud someone do a good job with it.

in arabic for those who can read, as its better than taking my version (apologies english letters)
haddathana ahmad bin hanbal, haddathana abdurrazzaq, akhbaranaa ibn jurayj 3an aby zubayr annahu sami3a jaabir bin abdullah yuhaddithy 3an an nabiy salallahu alayhi wa salam annahu khataba yawman fadhakara rajulan min ashabihi qubidha fakuffina fi kafanin ghayri taa2ilin wa qubira laylan fa zujara annabiyu salallahu alayhi wa salam an yuqbara ar rajulu bil layli hataa yusalaa 3alayhi illaa an yudhtarra insaanun ila dhalik, wa qaala annabiyyu salallahu alayhi wa salam: idhaa kaffana ahadukum akhaahu falyuhsin kafnah

I am not sure if its from sunan abi dawud... thats the title at the top of the page but maybe just refering to the hadith above? (hadith from aisha about the washing of the prophet :saw: body after death)

[Ebony]

My dads spoken about this at length with us. I dont particularly like to think about it :( but we know what he would want us to do.

Its important to discuss this issue. Far too important to ignore or try to put aside.

[Nusayba bint Ka'b]

Bismilah
Asalamalaikum

I don't know Allah surely knows best.

[MG]

I only have it in Arabic so sorry my translation may not sound so great:

baab fil kafn (chapter about shrouding the dead)

ahmed bin Hanbal related to us, abdurrazaq related to us, Ibn jurayj informed us on the authority of abu zubair that he heard jabir bin abdullah talking about rasoolallah :saws:, that he was giving a speach one day and mentioned one of his companions (a man) had died and been shrouded in a kafn which was not long enough and had been buryed at night. the prophet :saws: rebuked them for burying at night before the bodies had been prayed over, except if someone is forced to do that. and the prophet :saw: said when you shroud someone do a good job with it.

in arabic for those who can read, as its better than taking my version (apologies english letters)
haddathana ahmad bin hanbal, haddathana abdurrazzaq, akhbaranaa ibn jurayj 3an aby zubayr annahu sami3a jaabir bin abdullah yuhaddithy 3an an nabiy salallahu alayhi wa salam annahu khataba yawman fadhakara rajulan min ashabihi qubidha fakuffina fi kafanin ghayri taa2ilin wa qubira laylan fa zujara annabiyu salallahu alayhi wa salam an yuqbara ar rajulu bil layli hataa yusalaa 3alayhi illaa an yudhtarra insaanun ila dhalik, wa qaala annabiyyu salallahu alayhi wa salam: idhaa kaffana ahadukum akhaahu falyuhsin kafnah

I am not sure if its from sunan abi dawud... thats the title at the top of the page but maybe just refering to the hadith above? (hadith from aisha about the washing of the prophet :saw: body after death)

some people i knwo carry their kafn with them in their bag wherever they go ....

[Al-ghurabah]

sad fact is i livei n a town with high muslim population yet we do not hav e muslim grave yeard we have toshare with others. at some point muslim and non muslim graves are few feet apart.. i herd that muslims should not be buried next to non muslim.. yet the local community will raise hundreds of thousands for yet another new masjid.. but no- one really cares or want to build muslim grave yeard..

but id like to be burried where i die.. and in a muslim graveyard as soon as possible colpying with all the islamic practises..

[nancyschmancy]

I'd like to die rescuing civilians from vaporized ash.

Firewoman Nancy. :up:

[MG]

so the best islamic practice would be to be buried where u died , even if thats not your home country?

[bippy]

I want to be cremated, divided into equal portions, and posted to my enemies.