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haiderfawad
11-07-06, 03:31 PM
I was looking for some help and came across this website, quite liked it so registered and here i am with my query, by the way i don't want your personal opinion but i am only looking for some really serious advice which should be authentic.
I have a beard and my father, being a practicing muslim, is for some reason against it despite he has a Masters in Islamiyat and studys Koran alot and is even considering writing a Tafseer himself, he either wants me to shave off my Beard or trim it.
What does Islam say about Father's will and happiness, i mean can i shave my beard or trim it to please him as i am not too sure as Islam has given alot of Rights to Father's.
I would appreciate your help but plz no personal opinion.
JAZAKALLAH
Fawad
:salams
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Ummati Al Islam
13-07-06, 11:51 AM
The beard is Wajib.
There are various ahadith that testify to this in Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmidhi and others. The Muslims are told to be different from the Mushrikeen by trimming the moustache and growing the beard; prophet Muhammad (saw) will turn his face away from the one without a beard on Yawmul Qiyammah; there's also another hadith in Bukhari that prohibits removing the hair on the sides of your face.
To fulfil the category of the beard being Wajib it must be one fist full; anything beyond that is sunnah. One should comb, oil and tame his beard so as to look nicely presentable as prophet Muhammad (saw) did.
The hukm is different when one naturally cannot grow a beard; there is no sin upon him.
"There is no obedience when there is disobedience to the Creator." Obey the father in all issues save when it involves the disobedience of Allah.
Abu Mus'ab
13-07-06, 04:49 PM
I was looking for some help and came across this website, quite liked it so registered and here i am with my query, by the way i don't want your personal opinion but i am only looking for some really serious advice which should be authentic.
I have a beard and my father, being a practicing muslim, is for some reason against it despite he has a Masters in Islamiyat and studys Koran alot and is even considering writing a Tafseer himself, he either wants me to shave off my Beard or trim it.
What does Islam say about Father's will and happiness, i mean can i shave my beard or trim it to please him as i am not too sure as Islam has given alot of Rights to Father's.
I would appreciate your help but plz no personal opinion.
JAZAKALLAH
Fawad
I'll Just Quote A Hadith.
"There is No Obedience To The Creation In Disobeying The Creator"
hadeeth of Zayd ibn Arqam in which the Prophet salallahu alleyhi wa salam said: "Whoever does not remove any of his moustache is not one of us." (Classed as saheeh by al-Tirmidhi).
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have mercy on him) said: "The Qur'aan, Sunnah and ijmaa' (scholarly consensus) all indicate that we must differ from the kuffaar in all aspects and not imitate them, because imitating them on the outside will make us imitate them in their bad deeds and habits, and even in beliefs, which will result in befriending them in our hearts, just as loving them in our hearts will lead to imitating them on the outside.
Al-Tirmidhi reported that the Messenger of Allah salallahu alleyhi wa salam said
"He is not one of us who imitates people other than us. Do not imitate the Jews and Christians." According to another narration he said, "Whoever imitates a people is one of them." (Reported by Imaam Ahmad)
"The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had a thick beard" (reported by Muslim from Jaabir).
"The ruler of Yemen, appointed by the Persian emperor Kisraa, sent two envoys to the Messenger to summon him. When they came into his presence, he noticed that they had shaved their beards and grew their moustaches. He hated to look at them (because of their odd appearance) and he said: Woe be to you ! who told you to do so? They replied: " Our lord " (Referring to the emperor Kisraa.) The Messenger then said, "My Lord, Allah may He be exalted and glorified, has commanded me to leave alone my beard and to trim my moustache." Recorded by Ibn Jar ra-abar. (Hasan, al-Albani.)
“Trim the moustache and save the beard. (sahih Al-Bukhari and Muslim)
The Prophet salallahu alleyhi wa salam said, " Cut your moustaches and leave your beards alone! Be different from the people of the scripture." ( sahih Muslim )
"Cut the moustaches and grow your beards. Be different from the Magians" (followers of a religion that dominated in Persia.)
( sahih Muslim )
and he salallahu alleyhi wa salam also said,
" Be different from the Mushrikin (those who worship other than Allah, trim your moustaches and save your beards!" (sahih Al-Bukhari and Muslim)
“Whoever imitates a people is one of them.” (Abu Dawud, classed as sahih by Albani)
The beard is a major distinction between men and women. Shaving it removes this distinction, and is thus a means of imitating women. The Prophet salallahu alleyhi wa salam said:
"Allah curses those men who imitate the women, and He curses those women who imitate the men. ( sahih Al-Bukhari )
Narrated Aisha, The Rasulullah Sallallaahu alayhi Wasallam said: “Ten things are part of the fitrah: cutting the moustache, letting the beard grow, cleaning the teeth with a siwaak, rinsing the nose with water, cutting one’s nails, washing between the finger-joints, plucking the armpit hairs, shaving the pubic hair and cleaning one’s private parts with water.” Reported by Imaan Ahmad, Muslim. Sahih Al-Bukhari 9:651
"every child is born with a clean, pure fitrah, which later may get deformed by the influence of the environment and the up-bringing." (sahih Al- Bukhari and Muslim )
This fitrah never changes with time: Allah said,
"The pure nature according to which Allah has created people. There is no change in Allah's creation.” Ar-Ruum 30:30
Umar ibn al-Khattaab rejected the testimony of the person who plucked (shaved) his beard. Imaam Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr said in al-Tamheed: “It is forbidden to shave the beard, and no one does this except men who are effeminate” i.e., those who imitate women.
Ahmad, Abu Dawood and al-Haakim reported with a saheeh isnaad from al-Miqdaam that the Messenger of Allaah salallahu alleyhi wa salam said “Soon there will be a time when a man will be reclining on his couch, narrating a hadeeth from me, and he will say, ‘Between us and you is the Book of Allah,(the Quran) and what it says is halaal, we take as halaal, and what it says is haram, we take as haram.’ then he salallahu alleyhi wa salam said "But listen! take heed ! Whatever the Messenger of Allaah forbids is like what Allah forbids!"
(Al-Fath al-Kabeer, 3/438. Al-Tirmidhi also reported it with different wording, and said that it is hasan saheeh. Sunan al-Tirmidhi bi Sharh Ibn al-‘Arabi, al-Saawi edn., 10/132).
(people will say because its not ordered in the Quran then it is not a command although we have also been ordered to obey the messenger salallahu alleyhi wa salam. This propehcy is very apparent today amongst muslims )
"Whoever disobeys the Messenger after guidance has been clarified to him, and follows other than the path of the believers, We shall give to him what he deserves and broil him in hell, which is the worst abode." An-Nisaa 4:115
Narrated Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri Rasulullah Sallallaahu alayhi Wasallam said,
"There will emerge from the East some people who will recite the Qur'an, but it will not exceed their throats and who will go out of (renounce) the religion (Islam) as an arrow passes through the game, and they will never come back to it unless the arrow, comes back to the middle of the bow (by itself) (i.e,its impossible)." The people asked, "What will their signs be?" He said, "Their sign will be the habit of shaving (their beards)."
Sahih Fateh Al-Bari, Page 322, Vol. 17
“Follow not the whims of those who have no knowledge (of Islam). Al-Jathiyah 45:18
Al-Tirmidhi reported that the Messenger of Allaah salallahu alleyhi wa salam said, “He is not one of us who imitates people other than us. Do not imitate the Jews and Christians.”
According to another version: “Whoever imitates a people is one of them.” (Reported by Imaam Ahmad)
Imaam Ahmad Bin Hanbal, Imaam Abu Hanifah and Ath-Thawri (Rahimahullah) said "All agreed that if the beard is removed, it is an act of mutilation. If someone was to remove an other mans beard by force he would have to pay the full "diyah" or blood money for this cruel act just as if he had removed an eye or a limb of the victum." This is based upon the Sahih Hadith from Imaam Bukhari "Rasulllah (Sallallaahu alayhi Wasallam) forbade robbing and taking propery by force and he forbade mutilation ." Imaam Ahmed Bin hanbal and Imaam Abu Hanifah agreed this includes a mans beard.(Sahih Bukhari)
“It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he has indeed strayed into a plain error” al-Ahzaab 33:36
“He who obeys the Messenger has indeed obeyed Allah.” (An Nisaa 4:80)
"Whoever disobeys the Messenger after guidance has been clarified to him, and follows other than the path of the believers, We shall give to him what he deserves and broil him in hell, which is the worst abode." An-Nisaa 4:115
*islamia
24-07-06, 03:01 AM
The Beard is Fardh
WhatAJoke
20-09-06, 01:17 PM
The beard is Wajib.
There are various ahadith that testify to this in Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmidhi and others. The Muslims are told to be different from the Mushrikeen by trimming the moustache and growing the beard; prophet Muhammad (saw) will turn his face away from the one without a beard on Yawmul Qiyammah; there's also another hadith in Bukhari that prohibits removing the hair on the sides of your face.
To fulfil the category of the beard being Wajib it must be one fist full; anything beyond that is sunnah. One should comb, oil and tame his beard so as to look nicely presentable as prophet Muhammad (saw) did.
The hukm is different when one naturally cannot grow a beard; there is no sin upon him.
"There is no obedience when there is disobedience to the Creator." Obey the father in all issues save when it involves the disobedience of Allah.
Thats not true, why are you defaming all the people without beards? who happen to be more pious than ones with beards. Your statement about the prophet not facing people without beards is clearly the most ridiculous statement ive heard on the planet.
Majority infact all the Quraish who participated in the torture of muslims in Makkah had beards. Abu Jahil, one of the biggest enemies of the prophet had a beard. With your statement i quote:
prophet Muhammad (saw) will turn his face away from the one without a beard on Yawmul Qiyammah
Are you suggesting the prophet will hug abu jahil, because he sure had a beard, a really thick one, and not look at someone without a beard who has been quite a good muslim. What Injustice!!!!
Al-Muhaajiroun
24-09-06, 11:23 PM
I was looking for some help and came across this website, quite liked it so registered and here i am with my query, by the way i don't want your personal opinion but i am only looking for some really serious advice which should be authentic.
I have a beard and my father, being a practicing muslim, is for some reason against it despite he has a Masters in Islamiyat and studys Koran alot and is even considering writing a Tafseer himself, he either wants me to shave off my Beard or trim it.
What does Islam say about Father's will and happiness, i mean can i shave my beard or trim it to please him as i am not too sure as Islam has given alot of Rights to Father's.
I would appreciate your help but plz no personal opinion.
JAZAKALLAH
Fawad
Salaam
I'm not beeing funny but was your father as sleep when he was studying about Islam? what you mean he told you to shave your beard? Thats even haraam for him to say that.
And for you to say that if it's ok to trim it to make him happy, Are you kidding me? who comes 1st? Muhammad saw or your father? And have you forgot what ALLAH says in the Qur'an? ALLAH the 1 who created everythink including me and you.
Thats not true, why are you defaming all the people without beards? who happen to be more pious than ones with beards. Your statement about the prophet not facing people without beards is clearly the most ridiculous statement ive heard on the planet.
Majority infact all the Quraish who participated in the torture of muslims in Makkah had beards. Abu Jahil, one of the biggest enemies of the prophet had a beard. With your statement i quote:
Are you suggesting the prophet will hug abu jahil, because he sure had a beard, a really thick one, and not look at someone without a beard who has been quite a good muslim. What Injustice!!!!
read post number 5 theres all the evidence u need, every muslim man must grow his beard and trim his moustache.no exceptions.
hadeeth of Zayd ibn Arqam in which the Prophet salallahu alleyhi wa salam said: "Whoever does not remove any of his moustache is not one of us." (Classed as saheeh by al-Tirmidhi).
5
i would just like to ask in what context does the higlited bit actually mean?
.: Anna :.
07-10-06, 02:35 PM
Jigsaw it means is not somebody who is following the sunnah of the prophet :saw: not that it makes them non muslim, but it is sinful :s allahu alam
i would just like to ask in what context does the higlited bit actually mean?
Its a very serious warning,that ones leaving behind what the messenger salalahu alleyhi wa salam has ordered u to do, is leaving behind the order of Allah ta ala who said
"But no, by thy Lord, they can have no real faith until they make thee judge in all disputes between them and find in their souls no resistance against thy decisions but accept them with the fullest conviction."[An-Nisa: 65]
"The answer of the believers, when summoned to Allah and His apostle, in order that He may judge between them, is no other than this: They say: we hear and we obey!" [An-Nur: 51]
A beard is fard for a man just as a womans hijab is fard for her.It is a grave sin to remove the beard and if one persists in doing that knowing that it is fard and when the evidence have been bought to them then Allahu alam.....
RashidD
08-10-06, 08:07 AM
To fulfil the category of the beard being Wajib it must be one fist full; anything beyond that is sunnah. One should comb, oil and tame his beard so as to look nicely presentable as prophet Muhammad (saw) did.
Oil one's beard... Hmmm, sounds interesting... :hidban: I never thought of that as a way to get it to look a bit tidy! :D
would it be best to remove the moustache completely?
Al-Muhaajiroun
08-10-06, 11:59 PM
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