Upon the return of the Caliphate?

[Weapon]

Question for the Muslims who live in western countries:

If by some miracle the Insurgents took control of Iraq and the coalition upped and left leaving the start of a new caliphate swaying on the edge of possability. Who would uproot their life and family to move there to help rebuild the new Islamic society, and who would stay here to live their cushy life out without major hardship?

[Umm Layth]

The Caliphate will NOt only return in Iraq, it will stretch from Middle-east, central Asia, Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Yes, upon the return of the Caliphate I would join the Khilafah Air Force.. so the skills I acquired from my degree in aeronautics can be utilised.

:rolleyes:

[Weapon]

The Caliphate will NOt only return in Iraq, it will stretch from Middle-east, central Asia, Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Yes upon the return of the Caliphate I would join the Khilafah Air Force.. so the skills I acquired from my degree in aeronautics can be utilised.

:rolleyes:

Thanks for your response. No need for the sarcastic smiley though, it's a serious question.

And I'm not talking about you moving there when it's been established over the middle east, I'm talking about you moving there as soon as it begins to help build it and spread it!

[Umm Layth]

how am I gonna get there? until they develop immigration policies and start to issue visas and passports as an Islamic state.

unless you have a teleport machine in that little world of yours?

[Weapon]

how am I gonna get there? until they develop immigration policies and start to issue visas and passports as an Islamic state.

unless you have a teleport machine in that little world of yours?

They don't have teleport machines in this little world of mine, however we've had a thing called the airoplane and the boat for quite some time!! You'll find these work in much the same way (i.e. getting you from one place to another) only they take a little longer.

And besides, surely the caliphate already has regulations laid out for immigration policies doesn't it.

[Weapon]

How come no ones answering this? I thought most people here would be jumping to get to a new caliphate to be honest.

[bint]

cos weapon to be honest there is no person i think anyways that can live up to the name like the sahabas did before. so its a no no for me. now if u sed leader. maybe. times are diff now.:)

[peaceforall]

Hi Weapon
Yep, to stay in the big bad immoral west as opposed helping there fellow muslim and living in a pure Islamic environment.
Truth is muslims love western countries, the freedoms, the opportunities, music, theatre, and the comforts.....and the list goes on. But I'm cool with that as I value them to, so can understand that. I just don't want these to be taken from us. Even radicals such as Hamas politicians choose to have their children educated in the west.

Why the lack of response to your question........well muslims are clambouring over themselves to get to the west, and what's more, stay there. It's my theory that they have to be loyal to the Islamic faith and cannot question it, but most would hate to live as Mohammed lived and with Shariah law.

But I do wish some would answer your question openly and honestly.

[Omar]

we'll have a big party. Everyones invited to my house.

[karma]

Its a silly question - it ain't gonna happen

To try and unite disparate tribes of Muslims all over the world and then unite them under one leader is a dream only of bin laden and his loonies

It stand as much chance as say for example a white mans empire over all of Europe and Russia under one leader or a black mans empire over all of Africa ruled by one leader - think how ridiculous that sounds and apply it to the caliphate

[Weapon]

But I've sat on this forum now for almost a year and everyday I've been reminded on multiple occasions how the west is full of sin, and that I should fear the time when the insurgents overpower the US and the caliphate is reformed. Not only to fear that but then to fear the spreading of said caliphate even as far as Britain.

My question was a serious one. Who would be willing to move and help this dream come true?

[Salman Al-Farsi]

I was thinking, if Bush and Blair love Iraq and Afghanistan so much, why dont they and their followers just move there and leave us here in peace :rolleyes:

[Salman Al-Farsi]

They don't have teleport machines in this little world of mine, however we've had a thing called the airoplane and the boat for quite some time!! You'll find these work in much the same way (i.e. getting you from one place to another) only they take a little longer.

And besides, surely the caliphate already has regulations laid out for immigration policies doesn't it.

you are talking about establishment of a state, thats not same as setting up a tent in the back garden. lol

Have you ever travelled anywhere?

[Abu Mus'ab]

How come no ones answering this? I thought most people here would be jumping to get to a new caliphate to be honest.

Might it Be Due To The Fact That Not Everyone Lives In The West?

And your Question Was Directed At People Living In The West.

[ibn.musab]

Might it Be Due To The Fact That Not Everyone Lives In The West?
And your Question Was Directed At People Living In The West.

Practicing Muslims who are somewhat "anchored" to the west are probably at present perfectly ready to leave, and give relatively little support to the materialistic and Kuffar values it offers.

I cannot speak for Muslims who might have moved from their own lands to these desolate areas.

They will have to speak for themselves, as to why they desired to be here.

[Omar]

Weapon i'll even invite u to the party.

[Salman Al-Farsi]

Is it Halal Party?

[Omar]

Of course man astagfirullah wht kinda things u thinkin?

[Salman Al-Farsi]

fantastic..

[kuffartiere]

fantastic..

Yes isn't it. Utterly Fantastic And Totally Unbelievable....


Kuff
:hidban:

[hkrespect]

asalamu alaikum

Allah willing i wud defo leave and come back with the liberation army

[Leena_Cnd]

Thing is, there is only one 'leader' in Islam.
Who would be willing to move
. . . if U.S. stayed out of foreign lands in the 1st. place, then there would't
be such 'immigrants' :rolleyes:.

. . . So when are we, to be be at Omar's. :cool: . .:)

[Weapon]

Good to see some more people have replied. I'm not actually trying to get rid of immigrants though Lee, I'm just wondering who would really go there and use their skills for the sake of the Ummah instead of staying here in the west to make money or live the cushy lifestyle.

[Le Croyant]

Yes i will move.

But i doubt caliphate vl begin in Iraq... my guess is more on Afghnaistan, Saudi or Egypt.

[peaceforall]

Le Croyant
I agree financial freedom is a matter of choice for "many" ...maybe most, but definitely not all.
Persons who live in horrifically poor countries and circumstances don't have much choice......e.g. in some Islamic countries and widow is thrown out, receives nothing and being a woman is unable to get meaningful employment, even to feed her children.

I'm open on this forum when I say that I'm an atheist....hence my wry smile at the "born into this world with sustenance guaranteed from Creator".

mmmmmm well well, where do I start....... sadly millions have not received this guarantee have they, starving thirsty sick babies born virtually into death, then dying without medical help, children whose parents fail to feed them, or even care for them - and many are muslim. The facts of this in some Islamic countries can't be glossed over or refuted. What happened to the guarantee for these poor little mites??? You know what, I wish there was a Creator who would have the compassion, concern and power to feed them. Is it happening??????

Please know I acknowledge non muslim parents and children can be also the same, and it's just heartbreaking.

[ibn.musab]

Thing is, there is only one 'leader' in Islam.

. . . if U.S. stayed out of foreign lands in the 1st. place, then there would't
be such 'immigrants' :rolleyes:.

. . . So when are we, to be be at Omar's. :cool:. .:)

That one is so easy ...
August 19, 2006 ...
Check with Sajid ...

http://www.ummah.com/forum/member.php?u=3

It's under "Signature".

I think it's HIS birthday.
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