Shias Talking About Fatima (ra)

[Al-Irhaab]

السؤال 465

انا فتاة ابلغ من العمر15عام ابى رجل متدين جدا واتا البس الحجاب الكامل خارج المنزل والحمد اللة ولكن ابى يقبلنى كثيرا بين ثديى او فى فمى او يأتى من خلفى ويحتضنى ويقبلنى فى نحرى فأقول لة أليست هذة الأفعال حرام فيقول لى انها حرام اذا كانت بشهوة لكن انا افعل معك ذلك بعاطفة الأبوة وان الرسول محمد كان يقبل ابنتة السيدة فاطمة من نحرها وبين ثدييها وفى فمها ويمص لسانها فهل الرسول كان يفحش فى ابنتة لا واذا الرسول فعل ذلك فهذة رخصة لأى اب ان يفعل مع ابنتة ذلك ويقول لى اننى لا المس العورة وهى القبل والدبر وكل ما ليس بعورة مصرح برؤية او لمسة او تقبيلة وانة يفعل هذا أيضا من خوفة على من اغراءات الشباب فالفتاة التى تسلم نفسها لأى شاب تكون مفتقدة لمشاعر الحب والحنان داخل المنزل فهل ما يفعلة ابى معى حلال ام حرام واذا كان حرام كيف كان الرسول يفعل هذا مع ابنتة السيدة فاطمة الزهراء وشكرا على هذا الموقع المفيد.

الجواب

و عليكم السلام و رحمة الله و بركاته ان فعل والدك جائز بالشرط الذي هو يقوله و ذلك في قلبه و لاتظني به السوء. اهلا بكم.

Q 465

I'm a 15 years old girl. My dad is a very religious man. When I get out of the house, I wear my full Hijab -al-Hamdulillah. But my dad kisses me a lot between my breasts or on the mouth, or hugs me from the rear and kisses my neck. When I ask him, aren't these acts forbidden, he replies, they are provided they were done with lust, but I do that with you moved by the passion of fatherhood. That the Messenger Muhammad used to kiss his daughter Fatimah on the neck and in between her breasts, as well as on the mouth sucking her tongue. So was the Messenger doing such evil to his daughter? No. And if he did, should this serve as a permission for any father to do the same with his daughter? He says: I'm not touching the private parts which are the front & rear, and as such what does not constitute an awra is clearly lawful to see, touch or kiss. He claims that he does this to me out of concerns for me against the seductions of the young men, because the girl who gives up her body to the guys often lacks love and attention at hom. Is what my dad doing with me Halaal or Haraam? If Haraam, why was the messenger doing that to his daughter Fatimah al-Zahraa, and thank you for this useful website.

A: wa alaikum assalaam wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh. The acts performed by your dad are permissible with the conditions stated by him, and the (intention) is confined to his heart, but do not think ill of him. Welcome.

Ref. Website of Ayatush shaitan al-Abtuhi
http://www.abtahi.com/Arabic/asp/all_reply.asp?number=8 (http://www.abtahi.com/Arabic/asp/all_reply.asp?number=8)


"It was narrated that [ Imam ] Ja`far Ibn Muhamad p.b.u.h said : The prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h used to put his face between the breasts of [ his daughter ] Fatima before going to sleep"

Bihaar al-Anwar, vol. 43, p. 78

[Abu Mus'ab]

This Is Not The Only Ayatush Shaytaan Kaafir That Issued This Same "Fatwah" I've Seen More Of Those Kufaar Mutah Animals Say It Well.

May Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'aala Curse Them And Make Them Rot And Die A Most Painful Death, And Make Ready For Them Their Eternal Place In Jahannam Ameen.

[bint]

urghhh!!!

i soo feel sorry for this girl. i wish i cud bring her to islam. :crying:

yuk yuk yuk yuk yuk yuk!!!!!!


eyurrrrrhhgghhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i hate that father. what a pervert. disgusting filthy. peadophile..yuk..PERVERTTTT...aarrghhhh!!!

these things make me sooo angry..like it isnt bad enuf already!!

:torture: :vomit: :vomit: :vomit: :vomit: :vomit: :vomit: :vomit:

if i ever saw that guy..or another liek that animal..i swear i wud kill them n rip their guts out!! how dare they associate their actions n fakely approve it in hadeeth. bunch of mongralistic.pervs!!!<---that aint a word. but i made it! urghh!

[Al-muthanaa]

Peace be upon those who follow the guidance,

What do you except from those children of mutaa (zina)? They don't even know who their fathers are?

Ayatulshaitan Dogistani (may Allah shower him with his curses) was asked about chess... he said it is totally haram. Then he was asked about anal sex with one's wife... he started getting horney and replied that it is allowed as long as wife agrees. lol

They even allow homosexuality as long as man is beardless....or a sunni. We have seen in their prisons in Iraq were they rape and sexually attack not only women and children but men including sunni Imams of mosques.

Yet, they have the audacity to accuse sayyidah aisha the wife of prophet muhammad of commiting zina...and when their madi whos stuck in the sewage pipes of sammarah returns he's gonna make aisha come back to life and implement the law of zina on her. This is zufr for so many reasons...but i wont go on to that now.

[Al-muthanaa]

Peace be upon those who follow the guidance,

What do you except from those children of mutaa (zina)? They don't even know who their fathers are?

Ayatulshaitan Dogistani (may Allah shower him with his curses) was asked about chess... he said it is totally haram. Then he was asked about anal sex with one's wife... he started getting horney and replied that it is allowed as long as wife agrees. lol

They even allow homosexuality as long as man is beardless....or a sunni. We have seen in their prisons in Iraq were they rape and sexually attack not only women and children but men including sunni Imams of mosques.

Yet, they have the audacity to accuse sayyidah aisha the wife of prophet muhammad of commiting zina...and when their madi whos stuck in the sewage pipes of sammarah returns he's gonna make aisha come back to life and implement the law of zina on her. This is zufr for so many reasons...but i wont go on to that now.

[Al-muthanaa]

if i ever saw that guy..or another liek that animal..i swear i wud kill them n rip their guts out!! how dare they associate their actions n fakely approve it in hadeeth. bunch of mongralistic.pervs!!!<---that aint a word. but i made it! urghh!


Taking fabricated hadith is what 90% of their religion is based upon.

[Abu Mus'ab]

And If You Really Want To See All Their Kufr Just Go To One Of Their Forums.

Some Of Those Kufaar Even Have Pictures That Is Supposed To be Hazrat Ali Radiallahu Ta'aala Anhu As Signatures. Nauthubillah

[Al-Irhaab]

Taking fabricated hadith is what 90% of their religion is based upon.

bro i think u mean 100 percent ;)

fabricating hadith is all that shiahs can do to keep their sick and twisted religion alive

[Abu Mus'ab]

bro i think u mean 100 percent ;)

fabricating hadith is all that shiahs can do to keep their sick and twisted religion alive

I Know What You mean Akhi.

I Just Come now From Their Site And They Admit Themselves That Most Of Their "Ahadith" Are Fabricated.

They Dont Have A Single Authentic Hadith Kitaab.

[GothiKa]

disgusting. thank Allah i didnt become a shia

[bint]

shias kid themselves. stupid priks n perves n urgh!!

they do incest? i mean what father??.. oh forget it!! no point! they gna burn anyways..twits!

[Al-muthanaa]

disgusting. thank Allah i didnt become a shia

Peace be upon those who follow the guidance,

Al-Hamdullah and all thanks and praises to Allah that I am not a shia and neither is any of my family members.

Al-Hamdullah Allah allowed me to be born in Egypt - where there are no dirty sons of zina and mutaa, shias.

Al-Hamdullah and shukr lillah that I am from Ahlulsunnah wal-jammah

Wallahi I will always love the sahabah and will always defend their honour as long as I am alive. I purify my aqeedah by cursing those who hate the sahabah and I draw closer to Allah by declaring my love for all the sahabah.

One of the pious salaf said that if you want to remember Allah then remember Umar...becuase you will remember his justice..then you will remember that Allah is the most just.

[Refugee]

Nice properganda you got going there - and good job for the people who created that website - i think properganda like this always work for example:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/01072006/323/baghdad-car-bombing-kills-66-shiite-market.html

P.S: I don't believe shias are proper muslims. But that website is a total properganda to take our mind off americans in Brits in Iraq & Afghanistan - Come on you gotta see the bigger picture people.


http://www.lonelantern.org/Home.html (http://www.lonelantern.org/Home.html) :up:

[Al-Irhaab]

Nice properganda you got going there - and good job for the people who created that website - i think properganda like this always work for example:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/01072006/323/baghdad-car-bombing-kills-66-shiite-market.html

P.S: I don't believe shias are proper muslims. But that website is a total properganda to take our mind off americans in Brits in Iraq & Afghanistan - Come on you gotta see the bigger picture people.


http://www.lonelantern.org/Home.html (http://www.lonelantern.org/Home.html):up:



whats propoganda about this akhi its a shiah website :confused:

http://www.abtahi.com/

[Refugee]

whats propoganda about this akhi its a shiah website :confused:

http://www.abtahi.com/

Do shia do mutaa ?

Yes.

Is it Haram?

Yes.

Do shia bad mouth sahabah (r.a) ?

Yes.

Is it Haram ?

Yes.

Do you shia say Allah lies ?

No

Do shia believe that Mohammed (p.b.u.h) did such an act describe in this thread?

No.

I know many website which claims to be muslim but all they do is create properganda against us. So normal people will think that, muslims are evil and their religion is evil

[1 ummah]

That is pure disgusting.. a3oothubillah !

[Al-Irhaab]

Do shia do mutaa ?

Yes.

Is it Haram?

Yes.

Do shia bad mouth sahabah (r.a) ?

Yes.

Is it Haram ?

Yes.

Do you shia say Allah lies ?

No

Do shia believe that Mohammed (p.b.u.h) did such an act describe in this thread?

No.

I know many website which claims to be muslim but all they do is create properganda against us. So normal people will think that, muslims are evil and their religion is evil

akhi this is a famous shia website... its like next your gonna say to me shiahs dont believe anal intercourse is allowed? you need to give more evidence then the fact that people have faked websites...

[Refugee]

akhi this is a famous shia website... its like next your gonna say to me shiahs dont believe anal intercourse is allowed? you need to give more evidence then the fact that people have faked websites...

Anal intercourse is haram in shiasm as well - i know this cause i was a shia and my cousin is a shia imam. What shias do wrong i'll accept it - this is a fake story. No shia i know will accept it, they might hurt me if i say that prophet (p.b.h.u) did such a thing :asta:

[Abu Mus'ab]

More Kufr From his Website.

Subject : " Steadfastness in following the infallible Imams(AS) in the time of occultation "
قال علي بن الحسين السجّاد عليه السلام: «من ثبت علي موالاتنا في غيبة قائمنا اعطاه الله عزّ و جلّ اجر الف شهيد من شهداء بدر و احد». كمال الدين: ص 323 الحديث 7.

Imam Ali ibn Al-Hossein Al-Sajjad (AS) stated, " In the time of occultation of Imam Mahdi (AS), whoever keeps being steadfast in following us, the Al-Mighty would then reward her/him equal to that in one thousend martyrs in the battles of Badr and Ohod".

[Al-Irhaab]

Anal intercourse is haram in shiasm as well - i know this cause i was a shia and my cousin is a shia imam. What shias do wrong i'll accept it - this is a fake story. No shia i know will accept it, they might hurt me if i say that prophet (p.b.h.u) did such a thing :asta:

akhi dont accept what i say go onto ayat as shaitan sistanis website... the biggest shiah cleric in iraq ... his website is famous amongst the shiahs and in there it clearly states anal intercourse is permitted... akhi this ayat as shaitan hassan abtahi is one of the leading clerics in qom of iran, his website is linked directly from wilkepedia article on qom.... it also gives reference for shiah book which gived their fake hadith.... take a look for urself

from a shiah site aswell

http://list-of-marjas.area51.ipupdater.com/

search for his name abtahi... it will give u a link to his website...

[Refugee]

More Kufr From his Website.

Subject : " Steadfastness in following the infallible Imams(AS) in the time of occultation "
قال علي بن الحسين السجّاد عليه السلام: «من ثبت علي موالاتنا في غيبة قائمنا اعطاه الله عزّ و جلّ اجر الف شهيد من شهداء بدر و احد». كمال الدين: ص 323 الحديث 7.

Imam Ali ibn Al-Hossein Al-Sajjad (AS) stated, " In the time of occultation of Imam Mahdi (AS), whoever keeps being steadfast in following us, the Al-Mighty would then reward her/him equal to that in one thousend martyrs in the battles of Badr and Ohod".

Yeah thats right shia believe that - May Allah guide them in the right direction (amin)

[Abu Mus'ab]

"Refugee" You Say Shias Dont Believe That?

I'll Go now To Shia Chat And Find Out how Many Shias Believe It,And Then We Can Judge From There.

[Refugee]

"Refugee" You Say Shias Dont Believe That?

I'll Go now To Shia Chat And Find Out how Many Shias Believe It,And Then We Can Judge From There.

You do whatever you like Akhi - what you do is your business

[Al-Irhaab]

You do whatever you like Akhi - what you do is your business

akhi dont get upset with us ... forgive me if i or the other bro has offended u :( maybe some of the shiahs u know have different fiqh understanding then the shiahs of iran and iraq...

[Refugee]

akhi dont get upset with us ... forgive me if i or the other bro has offended u :( maybe some of the shiahs u know have different fiqh understanding then the shiahs of iran and iraq...

No akhi i am not upset - is just that i have heard so much stuff, like shias add the blood of sunnis in there food on the 10th of Muharham etc etc - this is quite a famous thing to believe especially in Pakistan

[Abu Mus'ab]

akhi dont get upset with us ... forgive me if i or the other bro has offended u :( maybe some of the shiahs u know have different fiqh understanding then the shiahs of iran and iraq...

I Was Going To Say Something Like That,But You got Here First...

All I Was Going To Do Is See if it is True or Not,And From Shia Point Of View,Then No One Can Be Blamed For Spreading "Lies".

[Debater]

Anal intercourse is haram in shiasm as well - i know this cause i was a shia and my cousin is a shia imam. What shias do wrong i'll accept it - this is a fake story. No shia i know will accept it, they might hurt me if i say that prophet (p.b.h.u) did such a thing :asta:
Show me a narration from shia sources and tell me where this is haram in shi'ism.

[Debater]

No akhi i am not upset - is just that i have heard so much stuff, like shias add the blood of sunnis in there food on the 10th of Muharham etc etc - this is quite a famous thing to believe especially in Pakistan
Well, these are called rumours, and we are not propagating any rumours, we have quoted the reference of what you think is incorrect. First of all you must prove with a sound evidence from shias' source that Anal Sex is Haraam in shi'ism.