Sisters Travelling and Mahram Issues

[ur_yusra]

How far can a sister travel without a mahram ??

Is the ruling according to distance or length of stay ??

I thought it was three days and three nights.. but I'm also hearing that its according to number of miles ??

[bint]

In the name of Allah, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful,

Generally, it is impermissible for a woman to travel the distance of three days (equivalent to 48 miles) without her husband or a Mahram (unmarriageable kin) accompanying her.

There are many clear narrations of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) in this regard.

1) Sayyiduna Abu Sa’id al-Khudri (mayAllah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Let no woman travel for more than three days unless her husband or a Mahram is with her”. (Sahih Muslim).


2) Sayyiduna Abd Allah ibn Umar (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “A woman must not travel for three days except with a Mahram”. (Sahih al-Bukhari, no. 1036 & Sahih Muslim).


3) Sayyiduna Abu Huraira (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “It is unlawful for a woman who believes in Allah and the last day that she travels the distance of one day and one night without a Mahram accompanying her”. (Sahih al-Bukhari, no. 1038).


4) Sayyiduna Ibn Abbas (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “'A woman must not travel except with a Mahram and a man must not enter upon her except if she has a Mahram”. (Sahih al-Bukhari, no. 1763).

Imam Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) states in his monumental commentary of Sahih Muslim:

“There are many such narrations that assert the impermissibility of a woman travelling without a Mahram. These narrations vary in their wordings. The narration of Ibn Abbas in Sahih al-Bukhari says that a woman must not travel without a Mahram, but it adds nothing else. However, the other narrations, in Sahih al-Bukhari and elsewhere, mention lengths of journeys for which a Mahram is required - some of the narrations specify three days, some two, some one, and some even less”.

Imam Nawawi (Allah have mercy on him) mentions that the difference found in these narrations is due to the different questioners and the places wherein the answers were given to them. al-Bayhaqi said: “It is as though the messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) was asked regarding travelling for three days without a Mahram, and he refused. He was then asked about her travelling for two days, and regarding one day, etc and each narrator related from him what he heard”. (See: Commentary of Sahih Muslim by Imam Nawawi, 1015).

According to the Hanafi Ijtihad, the distance that is considered here is three days and three nights, for the narrations mentioning three days & three nights have reached the level of certainty. All the Companions who narrated other than three days also narrate the distance of three days and three nights. The narrations that mention two or one day will be restricted to specific circumstances, such as the fear of more fitna. Hence, they (Hanafi School) consider the narrations that mention three days & three nights as the basis of prohibition. (Zafar Ahmad al-Tahanawi, I’la al-Sunan, V. 10, P. 11).

It must be remarked here that this refers to the distance usually covered by walking or on a animal in three days & three nights (with the usual breaks for resting and eating). Therefore, the restriction of travelling with a Mahram applies if the distance of the journey exceeds this, even if the journey itself is accomplished in a shorter time.

The scholars have differed on the length of this distance. Many scholars are of the opinion that it is 16 Farsakh, and each Farsakh equals three miles, thus totalling to 48 miles. (See: Faydh al-Bari ala Sahih al-Bukhari, 2/397).

Thus, the Hanafi Fuqaha are very clear in that a woman must not travel to the distance of three days without her husband or Mahram accompanying her.

Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawthari,
Darul Iftaa, Leicester, Uk

hope that this is of help.:)

[ur_yusra]

So its three days and three nights then?

The hadiths mention days rather then distance..??

[bint]

So its three days and three nights then?

The hadiths mention days rather then distance..??

lol i havent given u the asnwer have i? hmmm welllllll what i have studied in my alima course it is 48 mile radius..so evrytime i wantd to make a trip to an annual graduation ceremonys..thats what we asked..and the answer was if its within 48 mile radius then its fine if more then we deff need a mahram.

wallahu alam.

[ur_yusra]

lol i havent given u the asnwer have i? hmmm welllllll what i have studied in my alima course it is 48 mile radius..so evrytime i wantd to make a trip to an annual graduation ceremonys..thats what we asked..and the answer was if its within 48 mile radius then its fine if more then we deff need a mahram.

wallahu alam.

No.. lol.. alhumdulillah that was very good information.

I just don't understand this distance ruling.

[bint]

No.. lol.. alhumdulillah that was very good information.

I just don't understand this distance ruling.


hmmm okay lets start again..im sure someone more knowledgble will be able to explain the fiqh of this..which reminds me lemme take my fiqh us sunnah out and ill read up on it again.

[Rayhana]

Well sometimes is an usa marine soldier a better mahram as a sister! :) ........

[bint]

Well sometimes is an usa marine soldier a better mahram as a sister! :) ........


hmm i didnt quiet uunderstand that. plz explain.

[Abu Sulaiman]

:salams

meanin they have guns.. shoot anyone who comes in ur way...

indeed...

(with the usual breaks for resting and eating)

damn.. its gunna take longer for me .. lol

[Arifa]

THE LENGTH:

Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, ‘It is not permissible for a female to travel without her Mahram for three days.’ (Mishkaat vol.1) The Jurists have calculated the journey of three days as 88 kms. (which is a bit more than 48 miles)

It is Makrooh-e-Tahrimi (close to Haraam) for a woman to travel for 88 kms or more without a Mahram. (Shaami vol.2 pg.465; HM Saeed). It is also not permissible for a woman to travel without a Mahram in short distances (lesser than 88 kms) if there is a fear of Fitnah, crime, etc.

THE STAY:

وَقَرْنَ فِي بُيُوتِكُنَّ وَلَا تَبَرَّجْنَ تَبَرُّجَ الْجَاهِلِيَّةِ الْأُولَى وَأَقِمْنَ الصَّلَاةَ وَآتِينَ الزَّكَاةَ وَأَطِعْنَ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ إِنَّمَا يُرِيدُ اللَّهُ لِيُذْهِبَ عَنكُمُ الرِّجْسَ أَهْلَ الْبَيْتِ وَيُطَهِّرَكُمْ تَطْهِيرًا

And stay in your houses, and do not display yourselves like that of the times of ignorance, and perform As-Salât (Iqamât*as*Salât), and give Zakât and obey Allâh and His Messenger. Allâh wishes only to remove Ar*Rijs (evil deeds and sins, etc.) from you, O members of the family (of the Prophet SAW), and to purify you with a thorough purification. (Al-Ahzab 33:33)

So according to Ahlus Sunnah, that shouldn't be an issue.

... I'm being serious :p

[ur_yusra]

ok and for those who don't know the reason why time was converted to distance by the ulama was because during those times journeys were calculated by number of days rather then metric units.

[bint]

ok and for those who don't know the reason why time was converted to distance by the ulama was because during those times journeys were calculated by number of days rather then metric units.

irhaab has just said something bout that on alton towers thred..so i think that will ansa ure question inshaAllah.

[ur_yusra]

irhaab has just said something bout that on alton towers thred..so i think that will ansa ure question inshaAllah.

Yeah I get it now.. :up:

But you get the credit not Al-Irhaab. :rolleyes:

[neelu]

What constitutes 'travelling'? I've often wondered what the hukm would be if I took a plane to go and stay at my khala's (Mum's sister's) house, or any such relative (ie without the accompaniment of a male mahram). The journey itself would take less than 3 days but the distance is more than 88km. I don't understand how the rule works in this context.

[Guvna]

What constitutes 'travelling'? I've often wondered what the hukm would be if I took a plane to go and stay at my khala's (Mum's sister's) house, or any such relative (ie without the accompaniment of a male mahram). The journey itself would take less than 3 days but the distance is more than 88km. I don't understand how the rule works in this context.

maybe this answers it neels?!

Generally, it is impermissible for a woman to travel the distance of three days (equivalent to 48 miles) without her husband or a Mahram (unmarriageable kin) accompanying her.

[Niqaabi]

Yeah a lot of sisters get confused with the whole 3 days thing and think its permissable to travel long distances without a mahram. I know a sister is going to Egypt and when i mentioned the mahram thing it was "oh but im traveling there within 3 days so its ok" i was :rolleyes: no and explained what the 3 days meant. :insha: we sisters gotta be careful.

:jkk: to bint for the post:up:

[marjan]

What if you go on a 100ft roller coaster ride. Then come back down again to Earth with a bump.. and without your mehram!

Then what!!!!!

[bint]

Yeah a lot of sisters get confused with the whole 3 days thing and think its permissable to travel long distances without a mahram. I know a sister is going to Egypt and when i mentioned the mahram thing it was "oh but im traveling there within 3 days so its ok" i was :rolleyes: no and explained what the 3 days meant. :insha: we sisters gotta be careful.

:jkk: to bint for the post:up:



wa iyyaki sis :)

marjan get a life :p

[Rayhana]

irhaab has just said something bout that on alton towers thred..so i think that will ansa ure question inshaAllah.

My english not very good! :D :cool: :)

[Rayhana]

Yeah I get it now.. :up:

But you get the credit not Al-Irhaab. :rolleyes:

:)......

[Al-Irhaab]

What constitutes 'travelling'? I've often wondered what the hukm would be if I took a plane to go and stay at my khala's (Mum's sister's) house, or any such relative (ie without the accompaniment of a male mahram). The journey itself would take less than 3 days but the distance is more than 88km. I don't understand how the rule works in this context.

in the past distances were not measured in kilometres but in days....

so if someone asked how far is syria from makkah you say 6 months...

or how far is medina from makkah 30 days....

the issue of three days and three nights is how far you can go at that time taking into account rests etc...

the scholars of the tabieen quantified that ammount due to new measurments and travels and depending on which madhab you follow it is a set distance.... i think the hanafis are the most leniant at 48 miles....

[islamirama]

Praise be to Allaah.

It is not permissible for a woman to travel without a mahram, whether she is travelling to do an act of worship such as Hajj or visiting her parents in order to honour them and be kind to them, or travelling for permissible purposes such as going on vacation etc. The evidence for that is as follows:



1 – The general meaning of the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “No woman should travel unless she has a mahram with her, and no man should enter upon her unless her mahram is present.” A man stood up and said: “O Messenger of Allaah, my wife has gone out for Hajj, and I want to go out with such and such an army.” He said: “Go and do Hajj with your wife.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1862.



Muslim (1339) narrated from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “It is not permissible for a woman who believes in Allaah and the Last Day to travel one day’s distance without a mahram.” There are many ahaadeeth which forbid a woman to travel without a mahram; they are general in meaning and apply to all kinds of travel.



2 – It is well known that travel involves exhaustion and difficulty. Because of her weakness, a woman needs someone to help her and look after her. Things may happen to her that make her panic and act out of character if there is no mahram present. This is well known nowadays when there are so many car accidents and other kinds of transportation accidents. Moreover, travelling alone exposes her to temptation, especially since there is so much corruption. Men who do not fear Allaah may sit near her, and haraam actions may become attractive to her. Similarly if she is travelling alone in her car, she is exposed to other kinds of danger, if the car breaks down or if evil people conspire against her, and so on. It is perfectly wise that she should be accompanied by a mahram when travelling, because the purpose behind the mahram’s presence is to protect her and look after her, especially if something bad happens. Travel exposes her to such things regardless of how long it takes.



Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The point is that whatever is known as travelling, women are forbidden to travel without a husband or a mahram.



The Standing Committee was asked whether it is permissible for a woman to travel to Hajj without a mahram. They replied as follows: It is not permissible for a woman to travel for Hajj or for any other purpose without a mahram.
Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 11/97



Thus it should be clear that Islam is the foremost system when it comes to protecting women and taking care of them, and respecting and honoring them, and regarding them as precious jewels that must be guarded against evil.

Islam Q&A (www.islam-qa.com)

[ur_yusra]

2 – It is well known that travel involves exhaustion and difficulty. Because of her weakness, a woman needs someone to help her and look after her. Things may happen to her that make her panic and act out of character if there is no mahram present. This is well known nowadays when there are so many car accidents and other kinds of transportation accidents. Moreover, travelling alone exposes her to temptation, especially since there is so much corruption. Men who do not fear Allaah may sit near her, and haraam actions may become attractive to her. Similarly if she is travelling alone in her car, she is exposed to other kinds of danger, if the car breaks down or if evil people conspire against her, and so on. It is perfectly wise that she should be accompanied by a mahram when travelling, because the purpose behind the mahram’s presence is to protect her and look after her, especially if something bad happens. Travel exposes her to such things regardless of how long it takes.



That was some useful information. However the bit I have highlighted is not really necessary in explaining why a woman needs a mahram. If it was for that reason then isnt a man weaker and therefore more at risk of falling into temptation? And if that really was the reason then a man would therefore not be able to travel alone either right? Because he may fall into fitnah too.

Also a woman can fall into fitnah within the 48 mile radius where she is without her mahram.

My point is that there is alot of hikmah in the laws of Allah (swt). A woman cannot travel alone after this distance and the reason for this - Allah (swt) knows best. It is better to leave it at that.

[Nawar]

You must spread some reputation around before giving it to ur_yusra again :p

No Im not following you around :rolleyes:

[ur_yusra]

You must spread some reputation around before giving it to ur_yusra again :p

No Im not following you around :rolleyes:

oi.. :p

long time no see bredrin...

[Nawar]

lol, yeh yeh, well you know how it is dear ukht :p

By the way, this thread was quite informative :up:

[Abu Mus'ab]

Well sometimes is an usa marine soldier a better mahram as a sister! :) ........

A Woman Cant Be Another Womans Mahram.

[islamirama]

That was some useful information. However the bit I have highlighted is not really necessary in explaining why a woman needs a mahram. If it was for that reason then isnt a man weaker and therefore more at risk of falling into temptation? And if that really was the reason then a man would therefore not be able to travel alone either right? Because he may fall into fitnah too.

Also a woman can fall into fitnah within the 48 mile radius where she is without her mahram.

My point is that there is alot of hikmah in the laws of Allah (swt). A woman cannot travel alone after this distance and the reason for this - Allah (swt) knows best. It is better to leave it at that.



I don't pick and choose but rather post the whole ruling, if you have an issue with whats in it then take it up with the sheik.

A girl was flying home from college/univserity (from one state to another). She fell asleep on the plane, like many do to make the trip short and relax a little. She had a blanket on herself and sitting next to her was a well dressed suit and boots gentlemen. When she woke up like sometime later, she found his hand under the blanket and in her pants and inside her. She told the airplane people and the i think made'em sit else where and soon as plane landed, handed him over to the police. He was an indian but a ceo of a company, if you think suits and boots make a person civilized, think again. Had she been traveling with a mahram, then she could've taken all the naps she wanted with someone watching over her as her protector. Even if he was taking a nap also, the guy still wouldn't have dared.

It's a sick sad world we live in, and it's quite pathetic if muslimahs think they are "independent" and can travel alone without a worry or concern. If something happends to such people, should feel sorry for her or does she deserve it for disregarding what Allah and His messenger says?

[mgk81]

According to Imaam Shafi'i a woman can perform her Hajj as long as there are trustworthy women performing as well, but only her first Hajj which is the obligatory Hajj, if she wants to go a second time she will need a mahram.

Al-Artham transmitted from Imam Ahmad: “A mahram is not a condition in the obligatory hajj.” His justification for this is his saying: “Because she goes out with women, and with all those whom she is safe with.” Ibn Sireen even said: “With a Muslim it is okay.” Al-Awzaee said: “With a just people.” Malik said: “With a group of women.” Ash-Shafi’i said: “With a trustworthy faithful Muslim woman.” And his companions said: “By herself if there is safety.”

[bint]

I don't pick and choose but rather post the whole ruling, if you have an issue with whats in it then take it up with the sheik.

A girl was flying home from college/univserity (from one state to another). She fell asleep on the plane, like many do to make the trip short and relax a little. She had a blanket on herself and sitting next to her was a well dressed suit and boots gentlemen. When she woke up like sometime later, she found his hand under the blanket and in her pants and inside her. She told the airplane people and the i think made'em sit else where and soon as plane landed, handed him over to the police. He was an indian but a ceo of a company, if you think suits and boots make a person civilized, think again. Had she been traveling with a mahram, then she could've taken all the naps she wanted with someone watching over her as her protector. Even if he was taking a nap also, the guy still wouldn't have dared.

It's a sick sad world we live in, and it's quite pathetic if muslimahs think they are "independent" and can travel alone without a worry or concern. If something happends to such people, should feel sorry for her or does she deserve it for disregarding what Allah and His messenger says?


omg that is like sooo sad. Inna Lillahh....its true we arent safe..thats why me gna learn how to do kik boxin....hayaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!:torture:

[Niqaabi]

in the past distances were not measured in kilometres but in days....

so if someone asked how far is syria from makkah you say 6 months...

or how far is medina from makkah 30 days....

the issue of three days and three nights is how far you can go at that time taking into account rests etc...

the scholars of the tabieen quantified that ammount due to new measurments and travels and depending on which madhab you follow it is a set distance.... i think the hanafis are the most leniant at 48 miles....
Bro do you know if the days ruling according to how long a camel takes to get to the destination?

[islamirama]

omg that is like sooo sad. Inna Lillahh....its true we arent safe..thats why me gna learn how to do kik boxin....hayaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!:torture:

kick boxing can't replace a mahram though, did knowing how to fight help her? what good is it when you're sleeping?

Every muslim and muslimah HAS to learn to fight, thats how it was in the old days, thats how it is in israel. Thats how we should have it, but it should not substitute a mahram for those girls who think they can "defend" themselves.

[bint]

i aint saying that 'fighting' can substitute for a mahram..but say

im going to uni through my job...the uni is round the corner from where i live..so like..i aint gona take my bro with me neither am i gona take my dad with me..they have their own things to do..i have mine. dont get me wrong..but its not easy to keep a mahram with you evrywhere you go..the men are at work..etc...but if they were at home then of course they wud tell me not to go walking, instead they wud gif me a lift..

on the other hand if i am by myself..then me father prefers it that i learn self defence n kik boxin cos he dont like the idea of me going out alone. and he has a point. cos if someone jumps me, attacks me, muggs me (not that i have any money :D ) then i can 'box' em straight away..and ive always seen it as a must that all women young or old at least learn self defence, a first aid course and some kik boxing. its boost ure confidence too when u jack those guys.:D aaahhhhhhsss feels muchhh muchhh better:p

[islamirama]

i aint saying that 'fighting' can substitute for a mahram..but say

im going to uni through my job...the uni is round the corner from where i live..so like..i aint gona take my bro with me neither am i gona take my dad with me..they have their own things to do..i have mine. dont get me wrong..but its not easy to keep a mahram with you evrywhere you go..the men are at work..etc...but if they were at home then of course they wud tell me not to go walking, instead they wud gif me a lift..

on the other hand if i am by myself..then me father prefers it that i learn self defence n kik boxin cos he dont like the idea of me going out alone. and he has a point. cos if someone jumps me, attacks me, muggs me (not that i have any money :D ) then i can 'box' em straight away..and ive always seen it as a must that all women young or old at least learn self defence, a first aid course and some kik boxing. its boost ure confidence too when u jack those guys.:D aaahhhhhhsss feels muchhh muchhh better:p

Well i definitly agree with you. I think all muslims (male or female) need to learn self-defense and how to fight. All males should attend a 2yr military school mandatory (like israel) because that's how it was in the old times, so when people were called for war the citizens already knew how to fight to defend their lands. And in today's society and times, it is the out most important for the girls to learn to fight. Guy's get mugged too but girls always have more to loose being jumped by guys.

After 9-11, lot of backlash and hate crimes took place against the muslims in the US (and other places). If these muslilms knew how to fight, they would've been able to defend themselves or atleast get away. One pak teenager was raped and she went in front of the train and killed herself because of it. And she wanted to be a doctor to help the poor. That's just one reported incident, how many unreported such crimes went untold?

Kick boxing is nice but i would recommend women's self-defense. Those are the meaniest and cruelist classes ever. They show you how to take man down without any mercy. Keys being shoved in their eyes, super kicks between the legs, they tell you everything. and why not? it's your life on the line!

Should look into more than just kick boxing, it's not all that effective. a punch may slow me down:D, a kick to the chest or back may phase me bit:rolleyes: and if you got more than one guy around, you need stuff that'll deliver more. Martial arts! many different kinds out there. Just need one that don't require lot of physical movements or strength but rather using opponent's strenght against him.

[bint]

yeah i hear ya.. :p

but ima take self defence..then kik boxing inshaAllah and then inshallah work my way up like u say martial arts :p

[islamirama]

yeah i hear ya.. :p

but ima take self defence..then kik boxing inshaAllah and then inshallah work my way up like u say martial arts :p

i went to this martial art's class and they were teaching basic self defense stuff. One move was that if someone grabs your arm, you twist their thumb back towards the side of their body (not bend back) and the professor did it to me. It stretched that far back without any pain and i didnt' let him go, so i guess that technique is not good for a girl against someone like me :D

[bint]

i went to this martial art's class and they were teaching basic self defense stuff. One move was that if someone grabs your arm, you twist their thumb back towards the side of their body (not bend back) and the professor did it to me. It stretched that far back without any pain and i didnt' let him go, so i guess that technique is not good for a girl against someone like me :D


lol..i thought u were a sister:torture:

[islamirama]

lol..i thought u were a sister:torture:
It's ok, i get that a lot :D and why get the stick out :torture: it's your fault for assuming so! :rolleyes:


Someone here said that i don't need mahram for going about locally like univ. I agree that such short distances "should" be safe but i think it also matters as to by what means are you getting there?


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Horrific Attack by Train Staff on Young Girl - For wearing Hijab!
Monday, 12 June 2006

Whilst most of us go about our regular train commutes without fears of abuse and harassment, one sister has been left traumatised by her experience during one of her regular commutes. Usually we see the railway staff, that work to ensure our journeys are pleasant, as a symbol of safety and security. Yet for Nisa Khan this connotation has been sharply destroyed by the abuse that she suffered at the hands of those very railway staff. She was taunted and harassed by an emplyee of Central Trains; why, you ask? Because she is a Muslim…another classic example of a few individuals abusing their authoritative positions to carry out their Islamophobic witchhunt against an innocent, young sister.
Whilst most railway staff do work to protect and serve us we must ensure that those that don’t, be brought to justice and removed from positions of such authority and importance. If you fail to take action to defend this sister, don’t cry to others if the same happens to you tomorrow
Central Trains are investigating claims that workers trapped a Muslim girl in a carriage and subjected her to racist abuse at Leicester railway station.
Nisa Khan, 21, from Leicester was waiting on a train for Birmingham when the driver told her to get off as the destination was Sheffield.

But she said he then locked the doors leaving her trapped inside.

She was later released by the British Transport Police. Central Trains said the matter would be fully investigated. A spokesperson said: "We are taking this incident very seriously.

"Once the investigation has taken place, we will be speaking to the woman concerned."
Ms Khan, a student at University of Central England, Birmingham, said the driver was joined by two other colleagues who taunted her and prevented her from leaving the carriage. (This racist abuse was hurled at an innocent sister merely attempting to take her regular journey back to university. There was no provocation and yet the train drivers felt that they had the right to act in such an appallingly disgraceful manner. In what world is it ok for the drivers to have acted in such a manner?)

She called police on her mobile phone who arrived after around 20 minutes and freed her from the train. Ms Khan said: "What normally is a one-hour journey ended up being the worst day of my life.” I got into in Birmingham at 11pm because I was too scared to take another train, I had to get dropped off and I keep suffering panic attacks."
She was travelling on the 18.14 service from Leicester to Birmingham to go back to university on 4 June.
What Can You Do?

For further information on this story and this sisters personal account visit the forum (http://forum.mpacuk.org/showthread.php?t=10949&page=1&pp=20). In the sisters account she strongly believes her head scarf, was the reason why she was subjected to racist bullying, taunting and harassment at the hands of the Central Trains drivers and is determined to seek justice. Furthermore, she has been left traumatized and in fear of travelling by train in case she encounters the same workers and is put through the same horrifying ordeal.


This sister has been left ‘traumatised’ by these events and yet we never imagine that it can happen to us. But what if next time it is us that is sitting on the train, or your mother or your sister that gets taunted with such abuse? Most people would sit at the front to the train to be nearest to the driver for safety reasons, that safety seems to have been destroyed by the acts of a few malicious individuals. It seems ironic that those we look to protect us are the ones who have now set out to hurt us. Whilst we can assume that most train drivers are not of this calibre, these few individuals have tarnished the others.


It is time now that we brought these cold-hearted individuals to justice. We cannot allow this behaviour to go unquestioned, giving others a free pass to follow their lead. It is our duty to push for answers to what happened and to push for the removal of these individuals from our public services.


MPACUK urge you to take 5 minutes to defend not only this sister who was subjected to a brutal example of Islamophobia, but ALL sisters who have been subject to this kind of abuse or who may be subject to it in the future. If we do not defend our sisters there will be no one else who will and those who commit such acts of abuse and vulgarity will be left to continue to destroy the lives of innocent sisters.
Make Your Voice Heard

Please get in contact with:
Trade Union Congress (TUC) info@tuc.org.uk (http://www.mpacuk.org/mailto:info@tuc.org.uk) and
Leicester Railway Station so we can ensure that answers are given.
CENTRAL TRAINS on 0121 634 2040. customer.responses@centraltrains.co.uk (http://www.mpacuk.org/mailto:customer.responses@centraltrains.co.uk) (please direct your complaints to Mark Hollis, Customer Relations Manager for Central Trains)When emailing the complaint, remember to put your full name, address and telephone number please, otherwise the complaint will not be filed.


Do not sit back, but instead recognise this atrocity for what it is and please get involved before this happens to you or someone you know


You can write (if you want):

Dear sir or madam:

I am writing to express my disgust, after hearing about an incident that
occurred at Leicester station involving Ms Nisa Khan and Central Train staff.

I was shockingly appalled to hear the ordeal she had suffered at the hands on
employees of Central Trains. This quite clearly highlights the rise of
islamophobia in the country, however such improper and unprofessional behaviour
is totally unacceptable, especially by railway staff who should be ensuring a
pleasant journey in a safe environment for all fare paying customers.

I trust that this investigation will be thoroughly investigated and appropriate
action to be taken. I await to hear the findings of the investigation.


Your faithfully

[`asiya]

“no woman should travel without a mahram.” sahih bukhari & muslim

" The only saying of the faithful believers, when they are called to Allah (His Words, the Qur’aan) and His Messenger, to judge between them, is that they say ‘We hear and we obey.’ And such are the successful (who will live forever in Paradise) And whosoever obeys Allah and His Messenger, fears Allah, and keeps his duty (to Him), such are the successful " Al-Noor 24:51-52


as salamu alaikum this issue isnt something to be taken lightly no woman should be going anywhere without a mahram, as the bro has shown us the results in the previous post, im a revert born on an island where i am one of 3 women in hijab from a population of 90,000 people, i dont leave the house unless accompanied by my son because i know well what Allah subhanna wa ta ala says in the Quran about the kufars hatred of the Muslims i have experienced this many times, when having the misfortune to have to go out for pure necessity alone in the past i`ve been spat on, shouted at etc i did a little poll once standing at the bus stop and out of 20 cars that passed by 18 of the occupants did a full head/body turn to gawp at me and you can see the hatred in their eyes, ive been spat on and insulted and i would never ever go out of the house for frivillous reasons.I would love to go to college or work but why should I when Allah has told me to stay in my home if i am a believing woman, i dont worry about money or work or the future because Allah takes care of everything if we put our trust in him as the hadith says if any of us relied upon Allah as he truely deserves then we would be like the bird who leaves home hungry and returns at the end of the day with a full belly. Allah is our creator and he knows his creation best and Allah knows we need protecting this is why the muslim men have a duty to do this,no sister should have to leave the house alone,especially in these day subhanAllah didnt anyone notice whats going on world wide to the muslims how their sisters are being violated :rubeyes: muslim women have muslim fathers or brothers uncles etc to help and protect them and take them out, and if they dont there should be brothers rushing to help them, or rushing to marry them and get barakah from Allah if they live alone,and the sisters who are married should encourage their husbands to marry these women, their sisters and take care of them, if they can afford it, anyway back to 2006 because not much of that being practised today as far as i have seen -wa Allahu alam may Allah guide us. all i ask is that the bros at least they grow their beards! because truth is, if i was out alone for some reason and something happened i couldnt ask them to assist me because here the bros and the kuffar all look the same, same clothes same clean shave, theres 400 muslims on my island maybe more insha Allah and i have seen only 2 with beards and they were visiting :(

Allah protect all sisters and help us to fear Allah amin

[islamirama]

While discussing the importance of having a mahram present while traveling, a question was raised that we have mixed schools and universities and do we need a mahram to be safe from them. Found this interesting info on going to such schools.

Question #8827: A mixed school is haraam according to sharee’ah
http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=8827&dgn=4

[Al-Irhaab]

Bro do you know if the days ruling according to how long a camel takes to get to the destination?

sis from what i know, but i could be wrong, i think the journey is not specified for camel or by foot, the reason being that the travel was done normally by mixed transport ie some would be on foot and some travelling on camels, ie in a caravan convoy so the time it took would normally be the same... i dont think it meant when 3 days non stop camal galloping :D