Sahih Bukhari hadiths about preferable marriage to Virgins.

[Hasan2004]

I am going to post this simply because someone thought from another thread that I was "misbehaving". Actually, I am sure that it was an opportunity to character assassinate. Now, I am going to post the hadith(s) again.

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 17:

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
When I got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you married?" I replied, "I have married a matron' He said, "Why, don't you have a liking for the virgins and for fondling them?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?'

Now, if you have a problem with my posting probably you have a problem with your lack of accepting that there are sexual subjects covered within the Islamic texts. Therefore, a problem with "Islam" itself or you are comparing your particular cultural standards against Islam.

[Universal_Islam]

I am going to post this simply because someone thought from another thread that I was "misbehaving". Actually, I am sure that it was an opportunity to character assassinate. Now, I am going to post the hadith(s) again.

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 17:

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
When I got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you married?" I replied, "I have married a matron' He said, "Why, don't you have a liking for the virgins and for fondling them?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?'

Now, if you have a problem with my posting probably you have a problem with your lack of accepting that there are sexual subjects covered within the Islamic texts. Therefore, a problem with "Islam" itself or you are comparing your particular cultural standards against Islam.
Salam Akhi,

Regardless of what other people say, I suggest that you should get married soon :)

[MalikOne™]

Jus keep tha info in the segregated forums. Simple.

[Humble1]

lol@ universal islam

[bint]

Jus keep tha info in the segregated forums. Simple.


yeah keep tha in ure bro forum....err not here..:rubeyes:

[Ibn al-Mubarak]

I am going to post this simply because someone thought from another thread that I was "misbehaving". Actually, I am sure that it was an opportunity to character assassinate. Now, I am going to post the hadith(s) again.

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 17:

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
When I got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you married?" I replied, "I have married a matron' He said, "Why, don't you have a liking for the virgins and for fondling them?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?'

Now, if you have a problem with my posting probably you have a problem with your lack of accepting that there are sexual subjects covered within the Islamic texts. Therefore, a problem with "Islam" itself or you are comparing your particular cultural standards against Islam.

Salamu'alaikum wa rahmatullah.

The deen is an all-encompassing one and the Rasul sallallahu alayhi wa sallam was sent as a mercy for mankind, a teacher, a most noble one who cared about everyone. Through the grace of Allah he taught men what they knew not and clarified those matters which they were confused about or doubted.

There are numerous lessons to be learnt from the Ahadith of The Prophet(Saw) but one has to handle them with care and wisdom.

This is a mixed forum and you should have some hayaa about discussing issues like this infront of members of the opposite sex. Is it something you would sit and freely discuss with your mother or your sister?

I dont know whos idea it was to begin this section but please remember the admonition of the Prophet(saw): 'Idha lam tastahi fasna' ma shi'ta', if you have no shame then do as you wish.

[ur_yusra]

Well during the time of the prophet (saw) women used to ask about very intimate things, especially the women from amongst the ansaar. But it was vital that they did because they needed to know the rulings regarding all issues. There shouldnt be shyness if you sincerely want to know the islamic ruling regarding something. It is better to find out then remain ignorant.

If you quote a hadith and you are grown up about it then fine, but if you make measley comments like you did in the other thread then yes it should be confined to the brothers forum.

[Al-Irhaab]

akhi there are no problems in posting any hadith whether explicit or not if they have relevence to a discussion... i myself have posted that hadith many times when we discussed the issue of marrying widows etc.... however to post the hadith in order to discuss about the details of the hadith in regards to matters which are of a private nature is not needed when there are sisters present... these things can be discussed in the brothers forum or if the sisters wish to discuss them in the sisters forum...

yes there is no shame in asking about private matters even to the opposite gender but it is limimited to neccessity and posting on a forum is not a neccesity there are plenty of islamic scholars that these matters can be asked from....

i mean this hadith is not even that detailed there are much more detailed hadiths but they do not concern the sisters so shld be kept amongst the brothers :rolleyes:

[Nawar]

No Hassan the point from the other thread wasnt the topic, we are all aware that Islam is a complete way of life and covers all issues alhumdullilah.

However there is always hayya in such things. On forums, where there are both brothers and sisters, there is no need for inappropiate comments and revealing of personal circumstance.

The fact that you even started this thread here as some sort of childish rebound, just proves the point doesnt it.

[Hasan2004]

Alright. I prefer to follow the Hadith and the Quran on issues concerning "sex".

Yes, I have no problem in discussing these issues with family members since these are Islamic sources. I am NOT ashamed by it.

OK, for my comment. Yes, probably it was over-the-line.

I have read something on this subject already before I posted my comment and the hadith(s).

My mistake was not posting it before my comment since I recalled something on this issue. I am not sure if I previously read it in a book by an Islamic scholar in the issue of marriage ( Finding the right wife or something of a similar title ).

As for the Hadith and since it is SAHIH then certain terms used is similar to my posting in the other thread.

"Fondling" is used.

Probably, the problem is NOT my posting but the current incorrect perception pervailing within this board.

Why post it in a "brother" section ? I gave NO info on a personal circumstance but rather expressed my willingness for marriage and the principle of the "willingness" of marriage.

Hayya is used on the issue of individual personal relationships and interactions. Do not use the concept of HAYYA to curtail info from a SAHIH Hadith(s)!

[NotOverYet]

Assalam o Alaikom wa Rahmatullah e wa Barakatoho
well if the matter of the Sharm is that improntant, then I have a question, if anyone can answer that please:
Why would 'Aisha RA narrate all those aHaadeeth relevant to sexual affairs?
Why would then She (RA) narrate even the words such as "Jama'al Khatanain", which itself is a really strong word, and I even cannot mention its translation here?

please a wise person should answer, not someone emotional, because i hate it when someone attacks me without a solid proof.
Wassalam o Alaikom wa Rahmatullah e wa Barakatoho

[`asiya]

I am going to post this simply because someone thought from another thread that I was "misbehaving". Actually, I am sure that it was an opportunity to character assassinate. Now, I am going to post the hadith(s) again.

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 17:

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
When I got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you married?" I replied, "I have married a matron' He said, "Why, don't you have a liking for the virgins and for fondling them?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?'

Now, if you have a problem with my posting probably you have a problem with your lack of accepting that there are sexual subjects covered within the Islamic texts. Therefore, a problem with "Islam" itself or you are comparing your particular cultural standards against Islam.

as salamu alaikum with great sadness i see things like this where one hadith or part of a hadith is taken and all of the rest of islamic teachings left behind to prop up one persons desires ok first of all rasoolAllah salallahu alleyhi wa salam asked him why did he not marry a virgin ? and why did he not? lets delve deeper, he didnt marry a virgin because he was a responsible muslim man not even slightly intrested in the degredation of women who married a matron to take care of his young sisters and he didnt want a wife who was childish did rasoolallah salallahu alleyhi wa salam not marry widowers to comfort them? did he not marry divorced women? did he only marry virgins ? no is the clear answer now im sure someone will recall the hadith whereby aisha radiallahu anh asked rasoolAllah salallahu alleyhi wa salam if he had a camel would he graze them on land that had previously been used for grazing or on the new and untouched pastures and he salallahu alleyhi wa salam answered in relation to Livestock not women. when we take the other hadith we see that when aisha radiallahu anh mentioned that Allah had replaced muhammad salallahu alleyhi wa salam with better (Ie aisha was better because she was young and a virgin and khadija was old) he salallahu alleyhi wa salam became so angry aisha radiallahu anh, vowed never to mention it again so lets not debase our sisters, and give some more value than others based on one hadith and not taking all others, because if we take the whole of islam then the justice is for all, and no-one is at a disadvantage regardless of their age their status etc. the sahabbas radiallahu anh and the sahabiyat were not a people who saw things only in terms of physical enjoyment what they did was for the good of the muslims enjoinng the good and forbidding the evil. any muslim woman wether a virgin or not is a joy to behold as the other hadith says the best things of this world are women and perfume.. thats women,and perfume, not virgins and perfume :up: for anyone still in doubt about this i urge you to read the story of julaybeeb radiallahu anh and his wife a great example to all of us of how to work for the sake of Allah and our submission to him subhanna wa ta ala, to uphold the almighty justice of Islam. May Allah make us all steadfast in that amin :ahb:

[Nawar]

In regards to Hassan, who is arguing that discussing issues of an intimate nature on a public FORUM, in the presence of brothers AND sisters is fine, I just find that quite bizarre to say the least.

When it is a public forum, where brothers and sisters both view, hayya comes in to play on how we address and comment on the issue. Anyway, discussing it here is not necessary. If it is possible to discuss such things between those of the same gender, that is better isnt it??? Alhumdulillah it is possible to discuss these things in the appropiate manner, and in the presence of appropiate people, so we take that route inshallah as we can do so.

Comments made in previous threads crossed the line, were completely void of any hayya whatsoever, and were proof enough of the point I'm trying to make.

[tux08902]

I am going to post this simply because someone thought from another thread that I was "misbehaving". Actually, I am sure that it was an opportunity to character assassinate. Now, I am going to post the hadith(s) again.

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 17:

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
When I got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you married?" I replied, "I have married a matron' He said, "Why, don't you have a liking for the virgins and for fondling them?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?'

Now, if you have a problem with my posting probably you have a problem with your lack of accepting that there are sexual subjects covered within the Islamic texts. Therefore, a problem with "Islam" itself or you are comparing your particular cultural standards against Islam.

Early Muslims asked the Prophet (PBUH) about anything ranging from the simplest to the most complex like sex.

Therefore, there shouldn't be a taboo on discussing it on the forums, but we have tiny eyes and ears that come on here as well. If this was an 18+ forum, then you could post it anywhere.

[tux08902]

I am going to post this simply because someone thought from another thread that I was "misbehaving". Actually, I am sure that it was an opportunity to character assassinate. Now, I am going to post the hadith(s) again.

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 17:

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
When I got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you married?" I replied, "I have married a matron' He said, "Why, don't you have a liking for the virgins and for fondling them?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?'

Now, if you have a problem with my posting probably you have a problem with your lack of accepting that there are sexual subjects covered within the Islamic texts. Therefore, a problem with "Islam" itself or you are comparing your particular cultural standards against Islam.

Early Muslims asked the Prophet (PBUH) about anything ranging from the simplest to the most complex like sex.

Therefore, there shouldn't be a taboo on discussing it on the forums, but we have tiny eyes and ears that come on here as well. If this was an 18+ forum, then you could post it anywhere.

[Hasan2004]

"The Righteous Wife" by Muhammad Shoomaan.

Many things are mentioned in this very book using Islamic sources.

[Hasan2004]

Now, concerning the Oil-perfume. I made a mention of this but I was already assuming it is known among Muslims concerning this habit. It is NOT a personal circumstance which someone had suggested. It is also part of the Sahih Hadiths and therefore sunnah for this habit and already stated in Islamic sources. Again, probably I should have stated the hadith before my comment. I remembered and been reading books and sources on the issue of marriage and decided to add a comment to the listed suggestions of the scholar's opinion on that particular thread.

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Sahih Muslim:

Book 004, Number 1841:
'Abd al-Rahman son of Abd Sa'id al-Khudri reported on the authority of his father that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: Bathing on Friday for every adult, using of Miswak and applying some perfume, that is available-these are essential. So far as the perfume is concerned, it may be that used by a lady.
Book 004, Number 1842:
Tawus reported that Ibn Abbas narrated the words of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) about taking bath on Friday. Tawus said: I asked Ibn Abbas it one should apply to oneself perfume or oil which is available with his wife. He (Ibn Abbas) said: I do not know of it.