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my lil one was having a bath the other day and while i was downstairs in teh living room, i noticed water leaking THROUGH the ceiling, down the bulb and onto the floor, i also noticed wet patches on allover parts of teh ceiling :(
i mopped up some water upstairs (cos lil had decided to make a big "wave" and there was water on the floor) the leaking stopped after about 10 minutes.
now there is dry patches on the celing and im worried about thsi happening again, so i need a proffessional to come look at it, cos it might still be wet under the bathroom lino, where the water went down...
anyone recommend or advise on wat to do?
cos i dont wanna get ripped off by whoever i call out, i dont want a botch job ,or someone taking adavantage cos im a woman, the insurance wont pay out until i get the problem fixed myself! (i hate insurance people!) ................please please please help
ibn suleman
10-06-06, 08:26 AM
Salaams
If this has only happened once, there shoudn't be any lasting problems! the water has seeped through the floorboards and the only hole in the ceiling must be the lightbulb, so its gone through that.
The wet patches on the ceiling shouldn't be a problem, and they can be painted over, hovewer if they have bubbles, then lightly prod them, and if the bubbles are soft, then the lining paper on the ceiling needs to be replaced, if the bubbles are hard this may mean the ceiling has to be replaced (this is very unlikely unless its leaked loads of times)
the water under the bathroom floor should dry up itself, no need to worry about that. The only way to stop the leaking happening again is to get the edges where the lino meets the wall in the bathroom sealed. this is a small job.
but call in at least two/three people who do free estimates and ask them for a quote and what needs to be done, and compare their quotes, if theres a huge difference between the quotes then each one of them may be trying to pull a fast one!
and if you wanna be smart, find out from them what is wrong, and then use this info to call up someone else, and tell them whats wrong and ask them to quote you- they usually give better prices if they see you know what you're talking about,
oh and also if you are going to be refunded by the insurers, makes sure the cost of the repair justifies the increase in premium fro the insurers!
hope some of this helps, but i'm no qualified diy/repair man, so do get a better opinion from someone else!
was-salaam
j/k bro.
well the well the wet patches have dried up on the ceiling but left a yellowy stain (very faint) behind where the watercame thru.
Does this mean that i need to re plaster that part of the ceiling then?
ibn suleman
10-06-06, 01:55 PM
wa iyyakum
no, it just has to be painted over (might need two coats, if you can still see the stain after the first coat)
wa iyyakum
no, it just has to be painted over (might need two coats, if you can still see the stain after the first coat)
salaamalaikum
i had a guy come round this morning and have a look at it and he sed,to put an undercoat over it FIRST and then paint over it .
j/k bro very helpful.
did he give any suggestions on how to fix the problem of water on the floor leaking down stairs? When I put the flooring in my bathroom, I sealed all along the baseboards and behind the baseboards with silicone too to prevent water getting under the lino from around the edges of the walls as well as around all the fixtures
did he give any suggestions on how to fix the problem of water on the floor leaking down stairs? When I put the flooring in my bathroom, I sealed all along the baseboards and behind the baseboards with silicone too to prevent water getting under the lino from around the edges of the walls as well as around all the fixtures
well he sed not to put lino in but tiles (as flooring) he sed that would be the better option. He sed when he lays down the tiles, the stuff he is gonna use to put the tiles together ,will get tougher over the years, so leaking wont be a problem.
He said if i supply him the materials, he will charge £150 to put the flooring in.
My insurance company say they will pay for any repainting,plastering,flooring thats needed (inshallah).
ibn suleman
11-06-06, 10:05 PM
well he sed not to put lino in but tiles (as flooring) he sed that would be the better option. He sed when he lays down the tiles, the stuff he is gonna use to put the tiles together ,will get tougher over the years, so leaking wont be a problem.
He said if i supply him the materials, he will charge £150 to put the flooring in.
My insurance company say they will pay for any repainting,plastering,flooring thats needed (inshallah).
Salaams
£150 for tiling, is quite expensive, unless of course its quite a big bathroom (~approx 7.5 sq mtrs, current rate is around £20 sq mtr)
materials will cost around £50-£100 depending on quality of tiles.
so will be quite expensive overall, if the insurers are going to pay for it then it's fine Alhamdulillah!
Salaams
£150 for tiling, is quite expensive, unless of course its quite a big bathroom (~approx 7.5 sq mtrs, current rate is around £20 sq mtr)
materials will cost around £50-£100 depending on quality of tiles.
so will be quite expensive overall, if the insurers are going to pay for it then it's fine Alhamdulillah!
im not sure about tiling now becos the lino i have down is very expensive and im thinking maybe i should jus put silicone around the edges of it ,jue to toughen it up.
What do u think?
If so which silicone (hope thats the right name) would last a long time and be effective? could u recommend one?
P.S. my bathroom is quite small, not big at all.
err sis id help u out but me dont know much about these things..tho we did get a plumber in today cos our boiler suddenly went down..:inlove: but still i dont know anything..
best way to get someone to do this kinda work is of recommendations by word of mouth:up:
shall i become a plumber? :scratch: :outta:
err sis id help u out but me dont know much about these things..tho we did get a plumber in today cos our boiler suddenly went down..:inlove: but still i dont know anything..
best way to get someone to do this kinda work is of recommendations by word of mouth:up:
shall i become a plumber? :scratch: :outta:
aww sis, thats ok :)
the guy that came is recommended by a colleague fo mine but bro ibn suleiman says his labour charges seem to high, im not sure wether to get tiling done or jus apply silicone to the edges and be done.:confused:
aww sis, thats ok :)
the guy that came is recommended by a colleague fo mine but bro ibn suleiman says his labour charges seem to high, im not sure wether to get tiling done or jus apply silicone to the edges and be done.:confused:
tiling sounds stronger...
tiling sounds stronger...
the thing is im worried about the cost :confused: thing with tiles is, if something was to go wrog with pipes in teh future, u would have to break the tiles to get to the pipes!
the thing is im worried about the cost :confused: thing with tiles is, if something was to go wrog with pipes in teh future, u would have to break the tiles to get to the pipes!
hmmm sounds like u need some proper work done. we have had tiling done in our bathroom and alhamdulillah no problems whatsoer...
why wud u need to get to the pipes? dont cover that area with tiles..:scratch: get a wooden box..and paint it..thats what we have done..it looks class :p
or a plastic..
but i think tiling is much better and easier to clean.:up:
ibn suleman
12-06-06, 03:19 PM
salaams
tiling vs lino!! pros and cons for both!
for long term, tiling is more durable, however good lino can be as effective.
the £150 seems expensive if he's just tiling, however if he's making a box for the pipes, and tiling under the bath, sink and um..bowl, then its (almost) justifiable! if you want tiling done, get a second quote from someon else and compare.
for minimum fuss and effort and money, you could just seal the edges of the bathroom as you mentioned. as for the best, sealant- any bathroom/shower one is fine! just need to make sure the edges that meet the walls are sealed, and where the bath meets the lino and the wall are sealed too.
salaams
tiling vs lino!! pros and cons for both!
for long term, tiling is more durable, however good lino can be as effective.
the £150 seems expensive if he's just tiling, however if he's making a box for the pipes, and tiling under the bath, sink and um..bowl, then its (almost) justifiable! if you want tiling done, get a second quote from someon else and compare.
for minimum fuss and effort and money, you could just seal the edges of the bathroom as you mentioned. as for the best, sealant- any bathroom/shower one is fine! just need to make sure the edges that meet the walls are sealed, and where the bath meets the lino and the wall are sealed too.
are u a professional? even if your not....can i interest u in sorting out my bathroom please :confused:
ibn suleman
12-06-06, 10:12 PM
salaams
uh-uh,i'm not a professional, just learnt a few things meself.
and cos of my not so good results for my finals, i'm kind of grounded :(
anyway, sealant is very easy, buy the tube and you can do it yourself, or when an uncle/cousin/brother/etc comes over get them to do it!
otherwise there's nothing else to do.
sis you just have to weigh it up.
Things to look at before deciding which way to go are, age of the house, the material used in your bathroom. Seals and old material dont work well together. The seal will hold but the other surface of the underlying material may give in, which brings you back to square 1.
You also need to look at drainage. Do you have drainage on the floor of the bathroom? By that I mean the general walk around area, not the tub, or shower.
Usually they should do some form of water proofing under both the tiles and lino, so the fact that the water has leaked through, means that it is sneaking through some little crack.
It isnt such a bad idea to first find the leak.
If you can get a family member to give you a hand, you would save allot if you did it yourself. However only if you know someone who has the tools. It is not worth buying the tools.
Other then that just buy a tube of Selley's Wet Area Seal, and seal first the leak, then all other potential leak zones.
I really cant give you too many specifics, as our structures are different to the ones in the UK.
j/k hekmaa, teh house is not old at all, it was only about about 7years ago, so everything is new.
j/k for the advice i will bear it in mind!!
yesterday i was trying to open the side of the bath but couldnt cos i couldnt find my phillips screwdriver! :(
ok, so i got a guy to come round today to have a look at the leak, he checked under the bath etc and sed nothing seemed to be wrong except the pipe wring was jus very slightly loose and he had tightened that but doubted that woulda caused a leak, he sed i should jus re apply sealant around the top of the bath and should be fine.(inshallah)
Also sed the water pressure is quite low and i should contact Thames Water to come, increase it from outside.
he charged me £10.00 for doing all the above, is that to much?
P.S.(Also sed i need a new mixer tap,(he sed gimme £30.00 and he will go get one from his builder mate,which i did.....) and come fix it for me for a fiver.)
ibn suleman
14-06-06, 11:58 PM
salaams
the £10 charge is fine, considering he probably spent a while there and he did check everything.
alhamdulillah, there's no other problems! u just need the sealant!
£30 is right for a mixer tap, but not sure why you needed it replaced!
i think thames water have lowered the pressure for everyone, because of the "drought"!!! if you think it's low the give them a call, they should do it for free anyway
as salamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh sister i just had this problem when my bathroom had a leaky pipe and flooded my ceiling, Alhamdulillah i live in rented accomodation so the landlord sent tradesmen to fix the pipe (which involved pulling up the floorboards in the bathroom) my ceiling and walls were badly water marked and i was thinking they may have to replace the ceiling but i was told by the tradesman that there was no need unless the ceiling was bulging badly ( implicating trapped water in the plaster board, and even then they advised that to simply pop the bulge and let the water out then see how it dries) anyway they fixed the leak, alhamdulillah, and advised me to put sealant all around the lino on the floor. As for the lounge ceiling which had patches of damp the area of the above bathroom, they simply waited for the water patches to dry and then painted over it once with undercoat, and then with regular paint. i wouldnt advise tiling the floor because should you ever have a leak/ flood again then it would involve calling in tradesman to pull up and replace the tiles again after repairs,which involves more cost. seeing as your lino is new and was a tad expensive why not just seal around the edges with a silicone sealant ( you can get ones that are also mould resistant a good idea in a bathroom where condensation can be a problem ) insha Allah you get your problem sorted out.breaks my heart to see women having to struggle to do these tasks alone especially when we have to let strange kuffar men into our houses to fix simple things that trustworthy brothers could help with... barakallahu feekum amin
salaams
the £10 charge is fine, considering he probably spent a while there and he did check everything.
alhamdulillah, there's no other problems! u just need the sealant!
£30 is right for a mixer tap, but not sure why you needed it replaced!
i think thames water have lowered the pressure for everyone, because of the "drought"!!! if you think it's low the give them a call, they should do it for free anyway
well thames water came round on friday and sed that the water pressure is fine and that, its probably the piping in the house that are causing the water pressure in the shower to be low :confused:
this is getting more complicated by the minute! :(
well bro, the guy sed that the reason i need a new mixer tap is becos , the water only comes out of the shower head and for some reason doesnt come out of the tap wen i press the lever :confused:
as salamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh sister i just had this problem when my bathroom had a leaky pipe and flooded my ceiling, Alhamdulillah i live in rented accomodation so the landlord sent tradesmen to fix the pipe (which involved pulling up the floorboards in the bathroom) my ceiling and walls were badly water marked and i was thinking they may have to replace the ceiling but i was told by the tradesman that there was no need unless the ceiling was bulging badly ( implicating trapped water in the plaster board, and even then they advised that to simply pop the bulge and let the water out then see how it dries) anyway they fixed the leak, alhamdulillah, and advised me to put sealant all around the lino on the floor. As for the lounge ceiling which had patches of damp the area of the above bathroom, they simply waited for the water patches to dry and then painted over it once with undercoat, and then with regular paint. i wouldnt advise tiling the floor because should you ever have a leak/ flood again then it would involve calling in tradesman to pull up and replace the tiles again after repairs,which involves more cost. seeing as your lino is new and was a tad expensive why not just seal around the edges with a silicone sealant ( you can get ones that are also mould resistant a good idea in a bathroom where condensation can be a problem ) insha Allah you get your problem sorted out.breaks my heart to see women having to struggle to do these tasks alone especially when we have to let strange kuffar men into our houses to fix simple things that trustworthy brothers could help with... barakallahu feekum amin
aww j/k sis, that was so helpful :up: may allah swt reward u. yeh i will inshallah do that.
yeh, i was thinking to get my bro to be there wen this guy came round but he is so busy with work, i didnt wanna bother him,but yeh it does freak u out abit, when there is someone strange in the house.
A good idea is to pretend there is a "brother" oe "husband" or "father" , SLEEPING in the other room :D
ibn suleman
18-06-06, 10:02 PM
Salaams
well thames water came round on friday and sed that the water pressure is fine and that, its probably the piping in the house that are causing the water pressure in the shower to be low :confused:
this is getting more complicated by the minute! :(
well bro, the guy sed that the reason i need a new mixer tap is becos , the water only comes out of the shower head and for some reason doesnt come out of the tap wen i press the lever :confused:
fair enuf reason!
if your fine with the pressure as it is, then don't worry about it too much.
but is the pressure from the tap ok? if it is and when you pull the lever not enuf water is coming from shower head, it might be the shower head has a few blocked holes. you should be able to unscrew the head and clean it out.
Salaams
fair enuf reason!
if your fine with the pressure as it is, then don't worry about it too much.
but is the pressure from the tap ok? if it is and when you pull the lever not enuf water is coming from shower head, it might be the shower head has a few blocked holes. you should be able to unscrew the head and clean it out.
its not from the shower head, i had changed that numerous times, the pressure is low even wen it comes out of the tap.
ibn suleman
19-06-06, 08:07 AM
Salaams
:confused:
is the low pressure from all the taps i.e bath sink, kitchen sink etc. or is it just the bath?
if it is all of them, then make sure the mains tap (should be in the basement) is opened fully. (if the Thames water guys or the other guy havn't already done so)
other than that, i'm not sure what the problem could be!:confused:
if the water pressure is unmanagable, then you may have to call a plumber in, but this will get well expensive!
Salaams
:confused:
is the low pressure from all the taps i.e bath sink, kitchen sink etc. or is it just the bath?
if it is all of them, then make sure the mains tap (should be in the basement) is opened fully. (if the Thames water guys or the other guy havn't already done so)
other than that, i'm not sure what the problem could be!:confused:
if the water pressure is unmanagable, then you may have to call a plumber in, but this will get well expensive!
the water pressure seems to be fine everywhere else, its just the shower one!
ibn suleman
19-06-06, 09:22 AM
Salaams
well in that case, if there is a problem with the pipe then its only the one going to teh bath and shower, which if your concerned about, u'll have to get it checked- it's either a build up of junk in the pipe or the valve is not fully opened!
(oh and is it hot water or cold thats the problem)
Salaams
well in that case, if there is a problem with the pipe then its only the one going to teh bath and shower, which if your concerned about, u'll have to get it checked- it's either a build up of junk in the pipe or the valve is not fully opened!
(oh and is it hot water or cold thats the problem)
they are both the problem, i dont think it can be a build up gunk in there because, the properties are newly built, about 6 years ago, and the pressure was like that when i moved in.
ibn suleman
19-06-06, 02:50 PM
Salaams
well in that case it's either
1)valve not open properly
2)poor plumbing (wrong pipe used, bad connections)
3)blocked pipes -(unlkely as you said the place is new, but i think london is a hard water area and limescale can build very quickly (or is it soft water :confused: )
4)problem with the filters in the tap/shower head (again unlikely since they new)
other than that i dunno what else it could be, i'm not too sure with plumbing, havn't done any since i flooded the kitchen fixing the washing machine (mum weren't too happy)
sorry couldn't be any more help! but it's probably best to get someone professional to check it out, if you think you need to get it sorted.
wa salaams
1)valve not open properly
whers the valve?
2)poor plumbing (wrong pipe used, bad connections)
can anything be done about that?
j/k in advance
ibn suleman
19-06-06, 11:05 PM
Salaams
1) it should be on the last pipe that goes to the taps on the bath- usually underneath the taps, however different plumbers plumb(?) differently, so it could be elsewhere,
(but when the guy replaced the tap he would have had to shut off the water supply to the tap, and it's usually done by closing this valve, if so then he should have opened it fully after he finished!)
2) other than get it re-done, not much!
(if the place is on rent, you could ask the landlord to sort it out)
Salaams
1) it should be on the last pipe that goes to the taps on the bath- usually underneath the taps, however different plumbers plumb(?) differently, so it could be elsewhere,
(but when the guy replaced the tap he would have had to shut off the water supply to the tap, and it's usually done by closing this valve, if so then he should have opened it fully after he finished!)
2) other than get it re-done, not much!
(if the place is on rent, you could ask the landlord to sort it out)
well inshallah im gonna get someone else to look at it. J/k bro u have been so helpful.
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