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[Phoenix CG]

I really wanted to be the first person lol! go on, discuss ur stuff.

[Arsalan]

If it wasnt for the islamic ( high ) recommendation and the neccessity of forwarding the human race within a healthy environement. Id say Marriage is overrated and a waste of time and energy and resources.

[sunilight]

If it wasnt for the islamic ( high ) recommendation and the neccessity of forwarding the human race within a healthy environement. Id say Marriage is overrated and a waste of time and energy and resources.

second dat
am feeling that marriage sentiment

[crocusesbloomin]

If it wasnt for the islamic ( high ) recommendation and the neccessity of forwarding the human race within a healthy environement. Id say Marriage is overrated and a waste of time and energy and resources.

I guess the honeymoon is over then? :(

Have some sabr!

"A person who faces a physical or financial setback, keeps quiet about it and does not complain to people, has a right on Allaah to be forgiven." (Attributed by Ibn 'Abbaas to the Prophet sal-Allaahu alaihi wasallam as reported in At-Tabaraani's Al-Owsat).

"A Muslim does not suffer any mental or physical anguish, or any distress, grief, pain or sorrow - even from the prick of a thorn - except that Allaah expiates his mistakes and sins." (Bukhaari and Muslim)

This Sabr is an extremely important virtue for a believer. The Prophet sal-Allaahu alaihi wa sallam, talking to some poor Muslims from Ansaar whom he had given whatever he had, said:

"Whoever practices Sabr, Allaah Subhanahu wa Ta'aala gives him Sabr. And no one can be given anything better or more far-reaching (comprehensive) than Sabr." (Aboo S'eed Khudri in Bukhaari and Muslim)

The Messenger of Allaah sal-Allaahu alayhi wa sallam said, "Allaah told Eesa (Jesus) peace be upon him: I will bring up an Ummah after you who will thank Allaah when they encounter what they like; and they will restrain themselves expecting reward from Allaah and will remain patient when they suffer something they dislike." (Reported from Aboo-Ad-Dardaa by Baihiqi in Shu'abul-Eemaan)

"A time is going to come on people when remaining steadfast on Deen will be like holding a burning coal in one's hand." (Anas in At-Tirmidzee)

For a believer, the scope of patience is not limited to enduring difficulties and problems with calmness. In the light of the verse, [You who believe, be steadfast; be supreme in steadfastness… ] (Aal `Imran 3:200), throughout his life, he shows an undeviating commitment to meticulously fulfilling all the commands of the Qur’an, to avoiding what is unlawful, to displaying moral perfection in every situation, without becoming daunted or losing heart. In short, he resolutely shows the patience and good manners prescribed by the religion. That is because one can develop these noble character traits only if one makes a steady effort. It is the people of faith who exhibit patience when making such efforts. As the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) informed Muslims in the following hadith, they know that patience is a gift for them from Allah: “No-one can be given a better and more abundant gift than patience” (Bukhari and Muslim).

That is why patience permeates the entire life of a man of faith and manifests itself in all his acts and attitudes. A believer shows profound patience in compliance with the command of our Lord, [So be patient with gracious patience] (Al-Ma`arij 70:5). He shows patience in humility and becomes the most humble person; he shows patience in spending for the cause of Allah and becomes the most generous person; he shows patience in not preferring his own self and becomes the most self-sacrificing person…

The following example in the Qur’an about the patience evinced in displaying moral perfection will give us a better understanding of this concept:

[A good action and a bad action are not the same. Requite the bad with something better and, if there is enmity between you and someone else, he will become like a bosom friend. None will attain this attribute save those who are truly steadfast. None will attain it save those who have great good fortune] (Fussilat 41:34-35).

Patience is one of the most important signs of a believer’s sincerity and efforts to draw near to Allah

As the verse points out, Allah commands man to respond to an evil act in the best manner possible and stresses that only those who are patient can be successful in doing so. This example clearly shows that if moral perfection is to be displayed, it is important to be patient.

Never feeling frustrated in the face of events that are seemingly negative is another attribute of a believer. Alternatively, when he has a blessing bestowed upon him he never becomes spoiled.

An individual can be very generous, self-sacrificing and very humble at certain times of his life. Or, he may remain strong in the face of hardships. However, failure to demonstrate these favorable character traits under certain conditions, and thus having some limits or weak points, may invalidate one’s preceding efforts to conducting oneself correctly. One must incorporate all these values in one's character. These qualities must be far from being imitative, fake, shallow or temporary; they must be components of an established Qur’anic structure. Allah also states that consistently displayed good values that have become an integral part of one’s character are worthy in Allah’s sight: [… But, in your Lord’s sight, right actions which are lasting bring a better reward and are a better basis for hope of salvation.] (Al-Kahf 18:46)

Endurance, which entails “putting up with something”, is different from patience, which for the believer, is a source of hope and happiness.

Patience is one of the most important signs of a believer’s sincerity and efforts to draw near to Allah: one can only show patience in relation with his sincerity and closeness to Allah. Believers who are committed to displaying these traits compete with other believers in being patient. If making a sacrifice is in question, they conduct themselves most correctly and bring all their material and physical resources into play. Attention is drawn to this trait in a verse which reads: […those who are steadfast in seeking the face of their Lord…] (Ar-Ra`d 13:22). Encountering a difficulty, such people turn to Allah without harboring any feelings of distress or uncertainty in their hearts. This was also expressed by the Prophet:

“Wondrous are the believer’s affairs. For him there is good in all his affairs, and this is so only for the believer. When something pleasing happens to him, he is grateful, and that is good for him; and when something displeasing happens to him, he is patient, and that is good for him” (Muslim).

People often misinterpret patience and think of it as “putting up with something.” This is but a distant connotation of patience experienced and felt by a believer, since “putting up with something” is an obligatory form of endurance shown in the face of a distressing and painful situation.

The believer is content with Allah no matter what situations he encounters. He believes in His eternal compassion and mercy, and puts his trust in Him.

The patience shown for the cause of Allah, however, is not a source of distress, but a great cause of pleasure and happiness. A man of perfected faith shows patience in order to earn the approval of Allah, and thus does not become depressed. On the contrary, with the hope of receiving the blessings and rewards Allah promises in return for his patience, he derives great pleasure from it. Allah informs us in the Qur’an that patience is distressing for disbelievers:

[Seek help in steadfastness and prayer. But that is a very hard thing, except for the humble] (Al-Baqarah 2:45).

The patience of a believer is so profound that his patience and imploration never wavers, even though he cannot eliminate a problem or attain his wishes until death overtakes him. He knows that Allah keeps everything under His control and that he will earn great rewards in return for his patience. For this reason, he is content with Allah no matter what situations he encounters, he believes in His eternal compassion and mercy, and puts his trust in Him. If Allah does not answer his call immediately, he certainly knows a greater goodness and beauty are hidden in this. He never forgets that Allah answers all prayers and gives an excellent reward to those who are patient. And His promise is true.

By Harun Yahya 11/04/2004

http://www.islamonline.net/english/introducingislam/Individual/article04.shtml

[Tahiyah]

If it wasnt for the islamic ( high ) recommendation and the neccessity of forwarding the human race within a healthy environement. Id say Marriage is overrated and a waste of time and energy and resources.


:rotfl: :torture: Arsalan, you just made my morning. to funny. :up:

[MG]

If it wasnt for the islamic ( high ) recommendation and the neccessity of forwarding the human race within a healthy environement. Id say Marriage is overrated and a waste of time and energy and resources.

marriage is not a waste of time! its only if you become lazy or your wife gets lazy, in making that marriage work into how YOU would like it to be , that it becomes a "waste of time"...............

[K@M]

About time there was marriage subsection. Wathc how 90% of Ummah topics get moved into here :p

[Quest]

lol k&m

arsalan u seem annoyed and happy i think it makes sense why u had a thread about seeking a second wife.

akii try and make things work with ur first. remember what u put in is what u get out

[Khadhijah]

About time there was marriage subsection. Wathc how 90% of Ummah topics get moved into here :p
LOL! About time indeed.

[Salman Al-Farsi]

Just to make my stance clear.. I was totally against this idea.

I am officially boycotting this sub- forum.

[toxic]

Just to make my stance clear.. I was totally against this idea.

I m officially boycotting this sub- forum.

:eek3: reallly??? yah don't say..... so wats this msg then??? :rolleyes:

and "NO" being a mod is no excuse to say you gonna peek in and keep a check. :p

if you gonna BOYCOTT then that means you aint gonna be replying to any of the marriage threads YOU started. ;)

let's see how firm a resolve you have and just how long your official boycott's gonna last. :1popcorn:

[Hekmaa]

Alhamdulilah about time, we finally have people standing up to the mods. :torture:

[MG]

Just to make my stance clear.. I was totally against this idea.

I am officially boycotting this sub- forum.


that must be the shortest "boycott" i have ever come across:rolleyes:

[imran1976]

that must be the shortest "boycott" i have ever come across:rolleyes:

:rofl1: :rofl1:

[TEH]

Just to make my stance clear.. I was totally against this idea.

I am officially boycotting this sub- forum.

Although Im not boycotting (I wish I was as dramatic as you Sal.. :( ), I agree with Sal...this is like a recipe for disaster..

Pretty soon you will start to get...

DO YOU THINK MY HUSBAND WILL LET ME WEAR WESTERN CLOTHING?

DO YOU THINK MY WIFE WILL BE ABLE TO MELT ME WITH HER EVIL DEATH STARE?

DO YOU THINK MY HUSBAND WILL LIKE MY 1000 POUND WEDDING DRESS THAT DOESNT FIT ME PROPERLY?

DO YOU THINK I SHOULD GIVE MY WIFE A COOKING TEST BEFORE I MARRY HER?

WOULD YOU MARRY A FAT WOMAN?

And when we got bored..

WOULD YOU MARRY 2 FAT WOMEN?

And then when we got really really bored..

WOULD YOU MARRY 2 FAT WOMEN AT THE SAME TIME?

:eek:

[Nawar]

lol ^^

but whats the problem???

Theres nothing wrong with a marriage forum, at least the topics are confined to one area rather then being scattered around everywhere on the forum. There should be guidelines, and the mods definately keep an eye, to make sure theres less garbage and more Qur'aan and sunnah. Inshallah it can be a place where people learn about marriage in Islam, fiqh issues and things. Nothing wrong with that. I would say ideally just keep marriage to the brothers and sisters areas respectively, but not everyone has access to them do they.

[TEH]

Heres another idea...only talk about marriage in your respective sections, if youre not in a section, youre not worthy enough to talk about marriage... :D

Theres so many forums, where you have useless topics opening up, and they just go on for ages and ages, and you just think...what a waste of time..

And marriage sections are such fitnah its untrue..because you see, when the 20 year old hunk of a brother comes on, and he goes on about he will treat his wife like his master, and that he will do anything for her, and that he will cook and clean and blah blah blah for her..then some poor girls heart is gonna go soft...

And hey, we all know what happens when a girls heart goes soft...

:eek:

[Nawar]

Well its been here for a bit now, and I havent seen any silly topics or really bad posts to be honest.

Although I agree, maybe it should just be confined to the respective sections. Even then, its still important not talk about useless things just because theres no brothers or sisters around :rolleyes:...Marriage topics should be enlightening with Qur'aan and sunnah, increasing our knowledge on the issue....with less opinions, preferences and whims.

[ur_yusra]

If you don't like the marriage section then don't look or post here..

Whats the problem.. :confused:

But lo and behold the haters will be the ones with the most viewcounts.. :rolleyes:

[Al-Irhaab]

Although Im not boycotting (I wish I was as dramatic as you Sal.. :( ), I agree with Sal...this is like a recipe for disaster..

Pretty soon you will start to get...

DO YOU THINK MY HUSBAND WILL LET ME WEAR WESTERN CLOTHING?

I thought you were a brother why would you have a husband who would forbid you from wearing western clothing...

DO YOU THINK MY WIFE WILL BE ABLE TO MELT ME WITH HER EVIL DEATH STARE?

Nah but i think the nagging will make you want to strap a bomb and walk into occupied palestine...

DO YOU THINK MY HUSBAND WILL LIKE MY 1000 POUND WEDDING DRESS THAT DOESNT FIT ME PROPERLY?

No your ugly get over it hes only marrying you cus ur dad bribed him

DO YOU THINK I SHOULD GIVE MY WIFE A COOKING TEST BEFORE I MARRY HER?

yes definately...

WOULD YOU MARRY A FAT WOMAN?

Never

And when we got bored..

WOULD YOU MARRY 2 FAT WOMEN?

Never again

And then when we got really really bored..

WOULD YOU MARRY 2 FAT WOMEN AT THE SAME TIME?

I feel sick :vomit:

:eek:

happy with the answers :D

[MalikOne™]

Dont need a whole section on marriage :rolleyes: :torture: some of these admin/mods are a bit too keen :outta: