Will the real men pls stand up

[Quest]

LoL aslama alaykum, why am i laughing? well the piece below which i posted on another site originaly got me into a lot of trouble, the back lash from non practicing brothers was hilarious, some admitted i spoke the truth, others laughed because they knew what i was talking about, and the hoodlums just got down right offended.

check it out,


Will the real men please stand up
by Quest


Not preaching, rather telling it like it is, are u ready?

Its all about a low cut on the sides, mayb a 1 on top, forget the beard his main focus is his clock,

friday night ring ring mobile ring

"what up cuz?"

"man i dunno wanna hit the club ?"

"u driving yo coz my cars F*.....ed"

"dont stress i got ur back"

" now thats wats up"

meet Spike and Roamer aka Mustafa and abdulahi.

gold or plaitnum toothed, saggy pants with eye brows cut, dressed in timberlands and all designer names, their aim of the day is to get laid.

wake up in the morning, come noon they are out the door, thug wanna be's confused 4sho, though claiming to b free they are the victims and slaves of fashion and thug life , Mus trying hard to impress, if not his seeking some kinda hyped up social rep.

whilst his mum worrys if he will come home alive or if in ICU she will see him next.

Its all about girls, money and stolen rides mayb rentals to, abdulahi has nada but his so damn proud, trousers hanging of his azz afro comb in his throe, though his hair is soft:rolleyes:

no time to pray coz Mus plans to do it when aged 40 or so, he goes to hajj and his sins will go away, till then his chilling like fonzi from happy days.

Reciting Quran? no see for them its all about B.I.G "catch me if u can like the ginger bread man better have your gat in hand coz man!"
sleeping around has become the norm, virgins to them are a joke especialy if from the same gender, they tease

" man u couldnt even pull 1 heiffer?"

" i fear my lord "

"man quit lying ur virgin and that aint no choice"

"theres always a choice i chose to obey my lord"

"oh seen, so ur deep like that"

(smiling) "thats whats up"

but whats really up? many of our men cling to the world chasing money and girls, forget islam thats for backward folk this is what they say if not via speech then by their actions of everyday.

Are these the Future protectors of muslim women , is this whats happening to our men ?

theres gotta be more to them i for one refuse to give up, for indeed allah guides who he wants.

i wanna see men like khalid bin walid, umar bin al khataab abu bakr as saddique , ali, abu dajannah & uthmaan bin affaan .

1 was a general, 1 was a strong courages leader whose personality to this day is unmatched, 1 was truthfull , 1 was a judge,1 was a fighter, and the other so bashfull and humble angels were shy whilst around him.

The best of them all was our nabi scw Al-mualim.
these are the type of men our men should take as examples. not 50 cent, The game or dizzy rascal.

ALL praise b 2 allah the only 1 worthy to b worshipped, obeyed and followed exclusively the 1 who united the mujahideen, divided the kafireen, supported the mu'mineen, and exposed both mushrikeens and the munafiqeens, blessed be he who unites the hearts of the mu'mineen and swords of the mujahideens, may he decree for us a life style similar to that of the muhsineen. amiiiiiiin.

[Khadhijah]

:wswrwb: sis

Masha Allah sis! Thats so true...

I love this last bit especially...



i wanna see men like khalid bin walid, umar bin al khataab abu bakr as saddique , ali, abu dajannah & uthmaan bin affaan .

1 was a general, 1 was a strong courages leader whose personality to this day is unmatched, 1 was truthfull , 1 was a judge,1 was a fighter, and the other so bashfull and humble angels were shy whilst around him.

The best of them all was our nabi scw Al-mualim.
these are the type of men our men should take as examples. not 50 cent, The game or dizzy rascal.

ALL praise b 2 allah the only 1 worthy to b worshipped, obeyed and followed exclusively the 1 who united the mujahideen, divided the kafireen, supported the mu'mineen, and exposed both mushrikeens and the munafiqeens, blessed be he who unites the hearts of the mu'mineen and swords of the mujahideens, may he decree for us a life style similar to that of the muhsineen. amiiiiiiin.

Ameen.

[ur_yusra]

mashaAllah sis.. excellent..

also one point I want to raise..we women are the first schools for our children.. they will learn their values their morals and their islamic understanding primarily from us.. so inshaAllah if we work hard we WILL raise men who resemble the legends of the past..

If we look at the likes of imam al Bukhari (ra), they were raised by their mother - its true, behind every successful man is a woman..

I will leave you with a comment made by Ahmad Jibril regarding a legend in islam..

'If you can't be a Noorideen.. then you better make your son a Noorideen'!!

SubhanAllah.. :up:

[Khadhijah]

^Good point sis

If you want to see the future state of the muslims then you have to look at the youth. Subhan Allah!

We need to raise our children with the Islamic values, teach them of the history of Islam and make them identify themselves as muslims, therefore they primarily follow the Quran and imitate the Prophet :saw: and not imitate the kuffar.

Insha Allah once we as muslim women realise this, this ummah will get back on the right path by the Permission of Allah (SWT).

[sawan]

*ahem* ...we actually have sisters who do the same :(

[ur_yusra]

*ahem* ...we actually have sisters who do the same :(

that may be true.. but honestly..

here in the UK the ratio of practising sisters to brothers is not equal.. there are more practising sisters then brothers..

And to be honest there are alot more brothers that need to get their act together.. I notice passiveness in many and Allah (swt) is the best of judges..

This is just from what I have seen..

[A_Muminah]

As-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaahi Wa Barakaatuh,

La Hawla Wa La Quwatta Illaah Billaah.

To Him we belong and to Him we shall return...
Truly He guides whom He wills. No ratios needed.

Its a pity that this is how we speak of our brothers, maybe we should write something which would inspire them instead?

Allaahu Musta'an.

Was-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaahi Wa Barakaatuh.

[Te'oma]

Its a pity that this is how we speak of our brothers, maybe we should write something which would inspire them instead?



Asalaamu alaykum, it's already been written...it's the holy Qu'ran and the Sunnah. It's their birthright and they choose to shun it and pursue kufr. No one knows what time Allah has alloted for them and the real shame is that too many of these young men will die in their shame. May Allah be merciful

[Submission]

Hey Hey your rhymes were better than 50 cents. At least yours made sense. Yeh men are quite funny, and lyrically brainless. Except for those...

[nsr_kid]

Assalaamualikum

Subhanallah sis that was :hidban: lol. Point to point wiv style :up:
Did u write that, or was it a copy and paste job ( no offence lol) :D

[sadf]

kwest, i don't like the way u talk, i see hundreds of somalian and arab muslimahs going clubbing, y don't u tell them to stop, y u concerned about brothers for and stop talking jihad all the time, if u were a guy, u wouldn't go as well. your topics r so controversial and offensive and judgemental.

[sadf]

that may be true.. but honestly..

here in the UK the ratio of practising sisters to brothers is not equal.. there are more practising sisters then brothers..

And to be honest there are alot more brothers that need to get their act together.. I notice passiveness in many and Allah (swt) is the best of judges..

This is just from what I have seen..

u may have a point umm yusra, but its not yours or kwests or any other muslim brothers/sisters position to judge, worry about yourself and stop pointing fingers at others, for all u know they may be cryin alone at home prayin tahajjud, when no one can see them, their r lot of muslimahs dating kafir men, a lot of muslim guys datin kafir women, but they maybe treated badly by the muslim community, they maybe ostracised

[ur_yusra]

kwest, i don't like the way u talk, i see hundreds of somalian and arab muslimahs going clubbing, y don't u tell them to stop, y u concerned about brothers for and stop talking jihad all the time, if u were a guy, u wouldn't go as well. your topics r so controversial and offensive and judgemental.

First of all the sister is called 'Quest' :up:

Secondly I love the way she talks..

Im sure you dnt see 'hundreds' of somalians and arabs clubbing.. I'm sure some do.. but as you can see this thread is directed at brothers..

The sad reality is that what you see written is an everyday thing.. so its actually your job as a brother to help other brothers and be a means for their guidance inshaAllah.. Its not about being judgemental even if someone prays five times a day at home and they are smoking weed outside.. would you then stop yourself from giving them naseeha about drugs with the knowledge that they pray five times a day??

Nope didnt think so.. :rolleyes:

[sadf]

Y don't u and sister Quest become marriage matchmakers, u seem to be on a mission to change the whole world, Muslims in england r involved in all kinds of haraam, from drug dealing in brixton to pimpin in soho, they probably been brought up in unislamic household, broken families etc, may allah guide those who r lost, i again repeat, they may be prayin Qiyam, when no one but their lord can see them

[~*UC*~]

Assalam-alaikum,

There is nothing wrong with the post, it just shows some of the problems in society which involves a part of the Ummah. Sometimes you have to be judgemental, and speak truth, it doesn't matter who it offends. Who cares if she never mentioned somali or arabs (or whoever) going clubbing, she wasn't denying any other problems in the Ummah, she was speaking of specific problems within our Ummah, and if they offend anyone, who cares, it is the truth, and sometimes the truth hurts..but the truth is more important...

Also, Quest's posts are cool.....

[MMS]

i made a thread that had the exact same title :eek:

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83354

[TEH]

Y don't u and sister Quest become marriage matchmakers, u seem to be on a mission to change the whole world, Muslims in england r involved in all kinds of haraam, from drug dealing in brixton to pimpin in soho, they probably been brought up in unislamic household, broken families etc, may allah guide those who r lost, i again repeat, they may be prayin Qiyam, when no one but their lord can see them

On another point, why are you so bothered about it? Do you think it isnt true? Do you not think it reflects the masses today? I for one certainly do, suddenly it is cooler to be a wannabe thug than follow the sunnah...how sad...

[Quest]

Sadf lol akii, see your views are similar to the back lash i got on another website

I want to make something clear, THIS IS NOT HOW I MAKE DAWA
its a one of i think u missed the part "not preaching just telling it like it is"

human beings can listen many ways to name a few, some listen thru mercy others thru criticism, others do when shown the reality, for me i listen with the first and the last.

As UC said, i was just addressing certain issues i was not speaking generally, hence why i used two characters which whether u like it or not many of our youths are a lot alike.

It may look like am picking on the brothers, but believe it or not the same thing was said in a thread i was addressing the sisters.

the sisters said things similar to u "why just us what about the bros"

bro sometimes we just have to tell the truth, a particular method may not be to ur liking but believe it gives another a wake up call.
so if such threads like these does not help u, let it help ur brother.

Yusra and K thanks for ur beautiful inputs. u are right our children have a duty upon us, may ALLAH give us the tawfiq to give them their haqqs Inshahallah

sub T UC thanks to u all to

kid yes i wrote that, it wasnt planned i just was thinking as i wrote. glad u all liked it.

To make something clear, am not mean, self righteous, nor do i ever forget my jahil days, so dont think here is another sister practicing now so she mocks those who are not.

walahi thats not the case, there isnt a single jahil in my neighbour hood who doesnt love me, this is because even with hijab i keep it real with them, i am not a snob, i show them they can change to. i say hello, i have patience with their faults, i even crack a joke as i walk past sometimes.

they dont hide their faults from me, they always come to with an issue. i dont pass judgement i just try to inspire.

so pls dont think am mean, if u read all my other posts u will see consistencie in my personality am never harsh when it comes to dawa, but there is a difference between preaching, and giving a wake up call by telling it like it is, i did expect comments such as those of sadf's but walahi i understand his point, i just hope he gives me the benefit of the doubt to

this thread though harsh its truth)

as i always say the truth can either hurt u or liberate u. its ur choice

[Quest]

MMS lol sis i didnt see ur thread



Its a pity that this is how we speak of our brothers, maybe we should write something which would inspire them instead?
.

uktii, we have many nice calm wise threads regarding issues like these.
sometimes its ok to go a lil umar bin al khatab on people, it has a positive effect on some.

Not all people find merciful dawa affective, some come back to allah thru the silent actions of others, some thru sincere advice, some thru harsh criticism which makes them feel low, some when presented with the reality

every one is different, this is a one of thread lets inshahallah let it breath, let the reality speak for it self.

i know brothers who read this sis, and felt ashamed because they could relate then wanted no connection with this thread so changed.

lets weigh the khayr and shar in everything, and lets look at it from all angles.

i understand ur concern, it is better to be kind and merciful, but some people this has no effect on. infact they take advantage of it and leave by uttering the insincere "inshahallah i'll change"

peace

p.s i am in no way saying i am like umar bin al khatab, for some reason i have a tendencie to be mis interperated mis understood so just incase let me clarify i was just making a point, not in any way comparing myself to the one and only UMAR

[ur_yusra]

Good points sis.. :up:

Did you manage to get access to the sisters forum ?

[greenwater]

Quest Cool post.

I see nothing wrong with saying it how it is, you'll see Imam's who understand what some youth are going through, mention these type of things at Khutbah's on Friday etc.

Sometimes its good using their own language to try to reach out to them. The method of writing style and subject covered by Quest, when a person who is a wannabe Gangster reads it, you'll find that they may laugh because they know its speaking the truth. One thing with many muslims is that we all Believe in Allah, even though we may do some of the worst sins. Therefore people try not to think of Allah or pray because the moment they do they feel guilt. Therefore as friends, relatives, muslim brothers and sisters to these fellow muslims its our job to as kindly as possible to remind them of Allah, as once they start remembering Allah more often, the more guilt they will feel themselves, and inshaAllah start analysing oneself. (its reminds me of the Nasheed Afraid to Read by Dawud Warnsby Ali)

And yes I know there are some who look like wannabe gansters, yet they regularly pray Salaah and Qur'an etc.

:up:

[Quest]

And yes I know there are some who look like wannabe gansters, yet they regularly pray Salaah and Qur'an etc.

:up:

Thats true, just today i had to go to bow road thames valley youth court (think thats what its called) anyways i had to act as the guardian of my cousin. duhur salat came in, so i asked this kafir lady to let me into a small room to pray, she in turn tells me to get the key from the asian security bro down stairs. when i came to him, he said dont use that room sister, come with me i will show u some where better.

as we are walking up the stairs he says " i know i dont look i pray, but i do"

he gave me a rug and showed me to a clean screened room, he said his the only one who prays there.

so yeah its good 2 never judge a book by its cover

[sadf]

hey sister Quest, I think I was a bit harsh to u, so I apologise, I see where your comin from now.

[Qassami]

i wanna see men like khalid bin walid, umar bin al khataab abu bakr as saddique , ali, abu dajannah & uthmaan bin affaan .

1 was a general, 1 was a strong courages leader whose personality to this day is unmatched, 1 was truthfull , 1 was a judge,1 was a fighter, and the other so bashfull and humble angels were shy whilst around him.

The best of them all was our nabi scw Al-mualim.
these are the type of men our men should take as examples. not 50 cent, The game or dizzy rascal.

ALL praise b 2 allah the only 1 worthy to b worshipped, obeyed and followed exclusively the 1 who united the mujahideen, divided the kafireen, supported the mu'mineen, and exposed both mushrikeens and the munafiqeens, blessed be he who unites the hearts of the mu'mineen and swords of the mujahideens, may he decree for us a life style similar to that of the muhsineen. amiiiiiiin.

ameen...

[Qassami]

sorry for the double post

[Laith Al-Doory]

By Islamic standards my grandfather was a very real man. Apart from the four wives he sired children with, there were the many women he would pay to marry, have sex with and divorce on the same day, with the imam acting as go-between or pimp.

[Emelianenko]

By Islamic standards my grandfather was a very real man. Apart from the four wives he sired children with, there were the many women he would pay to marry, have sex with and divorce on the same day, with the imam acting as go-between or pimp.
Not very islamic was he then :rolleyes:

[puella]

By Islamic standards my grandfather was a very real man. Apart from the four wives he sired children with, there were the many women he would pay to marry, have sex with and divorce on the same day, with the imam acting as go-between or pimp.


not the kind of real men we are on the hunt for, no disrespect to your grandfather..!!!

[Abu' Maryam]

By Islamic standards my grandfather was a very real man. Apart from the four wives he sired children with, there were the many women he would pay to marry, have sex with and divorce on the same day, with the imam acting as go-between or pimp.
Oh you Al Doory? Where do I remember you from? Oh yeah your that loser that said sisters will not enter Jannah and went on to create an entire thread based on that pathetic imaginary tripe. Now your here making up sad sicko stuff up about your gradpa. :( Yet still maintaining all in all that your still a Muslim eh?


Anyhow Ukthee Quest this was a wonderful thread as many others of yours :masha: , quite an eye-opener as it so happens. Please do keep up the good work- may I request to utilse this particular article of yours for daw'ah purposes elsewhere please?

[Quest]

abu sure be my guest :_) print it if u like, another sister asked me to do the same thing on another website, i will tell u what i told her if u print this, sign it as Umm Ihsan i prefer not to use my real name


sadf :_) we cool bro, we are family

[Abu' Maryam]

abu sure be my guest :_) print it if u like, another sister asked me to do the same thing on another website, i will tell u what i told her if u print this, sign it as Umm Ihsan i prefer not to use my real name


sadf :_) we cool bro, we are family
:salams Ukthee,

Excellent :jkk: I am gonna copy and paste it soon, than gonna copy and paste the other one by Ukthee MMS too.

:insha: I'll add you kunyah on it instead of your user name.

Shukrun sister- keep up the work- may Allah (swt) reward you- Ameen,

:wswrwb:

[Quest]

amin thanks for the duas may Allah bless u to

sister MMS lol same title? i havent seen your thread yet inshahallah will check it out later.

[Abu Mus'ab]

By Islamic standards my grandfather was a very real man. Apart from the four wives he sired children with, there were the many women he would pay to marry, have sex with and divorce on the same day, with the imam acting as go-between or pimp.

So He Was A Shia?

[tux08902]

that may be true.. but honestly..

here in the UK the ratio of practising sisters to brothers is not equal.. there are more practising sisters then brothers..

And to be honest there are alot more brothers that need to get their act together.. I notice passiveness in many and Allah (swt) is the best of judges..

This is just from what I have seen..

In the United States it is completely reverse. There are many more practicing brothers than there are sisters, atleast from what I can see. Come on, it's America, let's ride the banner, let's except every stupid Western value there is to accept, let's fornicate, let's go throw $100+ on an outfit, let's wear the Hijab with tight tight jeans and small shirts...oh that defeats the whole purpose of the Hijab let alone the Burqah! That is their chant. No offense to anyone, but those in my circle and their parents agree that it is much harder to raise girls --> women in Western and particularly American society because of the liberal minds and the openness.

EDIT: I'm not arguing with you about the validity of your first post. I completely agree with it.

[Quest]

tux and i agree with u

personaly i have seen many american brothers and canadians seeking sisters from london particulary

[Nusayba bint Ka'b]

~bump~

[$HugoBoss$]

tux and i agree with u

personaly i have seen many american brothers and canadians seeking sisters from london particulary

I've lived in America and hated but thats not the point, i live in canada now. Americans only marry americans and for canadians it's the same way. This happens like 99% of the time, so i don't know when you say "many" to me it's a few.

[ibn suleman]

:up:

[Al-Irhaab]

mashallah good article dont know why people are complaining :torture:

[Quest]

thanks irhaab and ibn

hugo ok.

[Abu Hurairah]

amin thanks for the duas may Allah bless u to

sister MMS lol same title? i havent seen your thread yet inshahallah will check it out later.
Here it is Ukthy: http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83354
So He Was A Shia?
As was Laith himself.

[Nusayba bint Ka'b]

~Bump~

[muslimuk]

Real men not here. they dont waste time on forums..

[Saeed Al-Muslim]

Real men not here. they dont waste time on forums..
True...

Ma'aSalaama