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ur_yusra
13-04-06, 10:57 PM
I just wondered..

How many bros would want their wives to wear niqaab after marriage.. or even if you are already married.. do u want your wife to wear the niqaab (face veil)..??

Reasons will be appreciated..

I also want to know from sisters.. if your husband wanted you to wear niqaab would you wear it? or would you rebel?

muslim_sis
13-04-06, 11:05 PM
well first of all , it should be done for Allah (swt) , but u HAVE to do it if ur husband tells u too , its an extra ibaadah and plus those that take the opinion that its sunnah not fardh , well , what ever ur husband tells u to do , that is permissable (not haram) u gotta do it , as it becomes waajib on u ...

MalikOne™
13-04-06, 11:05 PM
Yeh niqaab is really coool :D makes sistas look militant and if i was out in the street wit my wife id prefer she wear niqaab- so she doesent get no pervs lookin at her- it'd save me bustin alot more heads. :D But I wouldnt force her to wear it- id make it clear to her thats its her desicion but id encourage it.

muslim_sis
13-04-06, 11:07 PM
Yeh niqaab is really coool :D makes sistas look militant and if i was out in the street wit my wife id prefer she wear niqaab- so she doesent get no pervs lookin at her- it'd save me bustin alot more heads. :D But I wouldnt force her to wear it- it'd be her desicion but id encourage it.
lol ok bro , get the reason right 1st ... militant !?

Ar-Raya
13-04-06, 11:09 PM
what do you mean...REBEL???....*smiles*

I would support my wife InshaAllah as much as I could if she wanted to wear Niqaab,and I would encourage her to do so...Just as InshaAllah she would encourage me to be more modest for the sake of Allah ta'ala...

I would leave the decision up to my wife though...
If she didn't/doesn't/wouldn't feel comfortable wearing it then that's ok...

I wouldn't command my wife to wear it...So she wouldn't have the chance to "rebel"...*sticks tongue out*...

MalikOne™
13-04-06, 11:09 PM
lol ok bro , get the reason right 1st ... militant !?

lol my reason is ther...so she doesnt get stared at in the wrong way- it'd save the public alot of pain :D

ur_yusra
13-04-06, 11:10 PM
lol ok bro , get the reason right 1st ... militant !?

yes well you see my main concern if my husband asked to wear it would be ...

is he asking me to wear it because he doesnt want other men looking at HIS wife.. like a pride/jealousy kind of thing.. OR is he asking me simply for the sake of Allah (swt)..??

Because the first reason for me is not on.. If he tells me yes you should wear it and gives me an islamic reasoning .. fine.. but if its for the first reason.. then.. well..

I dont tell him to cover his face when he goes out do I?

Niqaabi
13-04-06, 11:11 PM
My husband wont let me take it off, so i obey him :(
But i do love my niqaab :inlove:

Ar-Raya
13-04-06, 11:11 PM
makes sistas look militant
I think you are meaning that Your Wife is Soooo beautiful that Niqaab would be a protection for her...

Isn't that right?....(just Nod in agreement)

If my wife told me that I was so attractive that I kept getting people look at me...
And she asked me to cover my face in public...I WOULD...for my wife and because it would stop others from sinning and because InshaAllah if I make my wife Happy then it is Ibadah...

janathi
13-04-06, 11:12 PM
yes well you see my main concern if my husband asked to wear it would be ...

is he asking me to wear it because he doesnt want other men looking at HIS wife.. like a pride/jealousy kind of thing.. OR is he asking me simply for the sake of Allah (swt)..??

Because the first reason for me is not on.. If he tells me yes you should wear it and gives me an islamic reasoning .. fine.. but if its for the first reason.. then.. well..

I dont tell him to cover his face when he goes out do I?

:salams

good points sis, Masha'Allah I think there should be that 'chioce'! Insha'Allah :up:

:wswrwb:

Niqaabi
13-04-06, 11:13 PM
yes well you see my main concern if my husband asked to wear it would be ...

is he asking me to wear it because he doesnt want other men looking at HIS wife.. like a pride/jealousy kind of thing.. OR is he asking me simply for the sake of Allah (swt)..??

Because the first reason for me is not on.. If he tells me yes you should wear it and gives me an islamic reasoning .. fine.. but if its for the first reason.. then.. well..

I dont tell him to cover his face when he goes out do I?
Yeah but sis thats a fine reason, you hubby wouldnt want other men sinning by looking at you and desiring you, you'd be helping other men lower their gaze.
Hubbies arent being proud etc, they are just looking out for their wives, you'd be surprised at the amount of hijaabis that still get chirpsed.

MalikOne™
13-04-06, 11:14 PM
is he asking me to wear it because he doesnt want other men looking at HIS wife.. like a pride/jealousy kind of thing..

ok how is not wanting ur wife to get stared at by other men- a pride- jealousy thing? let me flip it a bit- lets say your a married woman- would u want men staring at u??? or wud u like it if women was staring at ur husband??...it is for the sake of Allah by dressing up more modestley so u dont get harassed by other people.

muslim_sis
13-04-06, 11:16 PM
lol my reason is ther...so she doesnt get stared at in the wrong way- it'd save the public alot of pain :D
yep yep i agree to that , to cover herself, and to stop stares etc etc , but the militant bit , no. ur just confirming people assumptions of muslims, that they carry weapons and all sorts under their niqaabs , ridiculous i knw...

ur_yusra
13-04-06, 11:21 PM
ok how is not wanting ur wife to get stared at by other men- a pride- jealousy thing? let me flip the question- lets say your a married woman- would u want men staring at u??? or wud u liek it if women were staring at ur husband??...it is for the sake of Allah also buy dressing up more modestley so u dont get harassed by other people.

Im not a married woman.. and I do not want men staring at me no.. I do not need to be married to come to that conclusion.. I do not wear niqaab now.. so why should I wear it when I am married??

I love the niqaab and everything that it represents.. I've always wanted to wear it.. I mean we wear it during demos and its so much fun..

But the aim of this is to see what brothers want and why? especially the ones who don't follow the opinion that it is fardh..

If the purpose of wearing the niqaab for the husband is simply to stop the wife being stared at then what about the woman.. how does she prevent her husband from being stared at.. :rolleyes:

muslim_sis
13-04-06, 11:21 PM
yeh but its different for a man ! , women were ordered to draw their jalabiyah over them , not men. if u go on sayin men should cover, or a man sayin i would cover is not islam at all , and its sayin that the deen isnt complete then , surely if there was a harm in men not wearing hijaab , then allah would have ordered them too , but men and women are different

ur_yusra
13-04-06, 11:23 PM
yeh but its different for a man ! , women were ordered to draw their jalabiyah over them , not men. if u go on sayin why should men cover, or a man sayin i would cover is not islam at all , and its sayin that the deen isnt complete , surely if there was a harm in men not wearing hijaab , then allah would have ordered them too , but men and women are different

no of course..

what Im trying to point out here is intention..

what is a mans INTENTION when he tells his wife to wear niqaab..

lol.. even if I am using rather bizarre concepts..

The deen is complete sis no doubt.. :)

muslim_sis
13-04-06, 11:23 PM
If the purpose of wearing the niqaab for the husband is simply to stop the wife being stared at then what about the woman.. how does she prevent her husband from being stared at.. :rolleyes:
well islamic adaab teaches us to lower our gazes :rolleyes: thats how

MalikOne™
13-04-06, 11:24 PM
If the purpose of wearing the niqaab for the husband is simply to stop the wife being stared at then what about the woman.. how does she prevent her husband from being stared at.. :rolleyes:

Yeh but so what if a women stares at ur husband- u aint gonna like it thas for sure- but she cant do anything to him and he prolly wnt give a crap anyway. But wit a woman its different- because some men can take it too far and tha niqaab will help prevent that.

ur_yusra
13-04-06, 11:25 PM
well islamic adaab teaches us to lower our gazes :rolleyes: thats how

:up:...

veilofmysoul
13-04-06, 11:26 PM
niqaab rocks, but I don't think it's something which can be done if forced upon, especially not with correct intentions. Encouragement never hurts, but this is something that needs to be done with time if u believe it to be sunnah and not fardh.

muslim_sis
13-04-06, 11:27 PM
no of course..

what Im trying to point out here is intention..

what is a mans INTENTION when he tells his wife to wear niqaab..

lol.. even if I am using rather bizarre concepts..

The deen is complete sis no doubt.. :)
yeh so is ur point that they would only want them to wear it , coz they are jealous that other ppl lukin at them !!???? well sis, there is good jealousy in a marriage (check sis section lol)

and anyway they both belong to each other , so , so what ? i dont get it

yes she should do it for allah , doing as her husband asks is pleasing allah (is not haram)

ur_yusra
13-04-06, 11:27 PM
Yeh but so what if a women stares at ur husband- u aint gonna like it thas for sure- but she cant do anything to him and he prolly wnt give a crap anyway. But wit a woman its different- because some men can take it too far and tha niqaab will help prevent that.

Right ok.. so its ok for the man not to 'give a crap'... but not for the woman..

hmmm :rolleyes: ..

yes niqaab does help prevent the mans gaze.. thats for sure.. although some men are intrigued by it..

ur_yusra
13-04-06, 11:29 PM
niqaab rocks, but I don't think it's something which can be done if forced upon, especially not with correct intentions. Encouragement never hurts, but this is something that needs to be done with time if u believe it to be sunnah and not fardh.

yeh.. well said.. :)

Nawar
13-04-06, 11:29 PM
I think I see what Yusra is trying to say....as in, if the husband wants the wife to wear the niqaab, not because he is thinking for HER benefit (for the sake of Allah and that the wife will have men staring at her etc etc).......but if he is thinking along the lines of HIS OWN benefit and his own peace of mind...'I dont like people staring at her (what she feels is irrelevant), makes me jealous..'..then that is a bit selfish.....make sense????lol

Anyhow, most of the bros here :up: mashallah. I think the husband should encourage the wife no doubt for Islamic reasons and in the right manner, but I wouldnt feel comfortable with him 'forcing' me too....

MalikOne™
13-04-06, 11:29 PM
Right ok.. so its ok for the man not to 'give a crap'... but not for the woman..

hmmm :rolleyes: ..

yes niqaab does help prevent the mans gaze.. thats for sure.. although some men are intrigued by it..

ok lets say she didnt give a crap...wud that stop her being physically harassed...exactly...

Niqaabi
13-04-06, 11:33 PM
Hijaab was ordered for women. Women were also ordered to obey their husbands so long as it does not go against Allah and His messenger :saw:

If sisters want to know their husband's intentions for them ordering niqaab, well you need to ask your husband that. And if the answer is because he doesnt want anyone staring at you like an object, then for me thats a good reason and i would happily wear it.

ur_yusra
13-04-06, 11:33 PM
ok lets say she didnt give a crap...wud that stop her being physically harassed...exactly...

please explain.. I dont get you..

physical harrassment can happen to anyone.. niqaabis and non niqaabis alike..

MalikOne™
13-04-06, 11:34 PM
Hijaab was ordered for women. Women were also ordered to obey their husbands so long as it does not go against Allah and His messenger :saw:

If sisters want to know their husband's intentions for them ordering niqaab, well you need to ask your husband that. And if the answer is because he doesnt want anyone staring at you like an object, then for me thats a good reason and i would happily wear it.

exactly :up:

please explain.. I dont get you..

physical harrassment can happen to anyone.. niqaabis and non niqaabis alike..

a man is less likely to get his desires aroused by seeing a women in a niqaab than not ina niqaab- simply because it covers more of her.

janathi
13-04-06, 11:39 PM
Hijaab was ordered for women. Women were also ordered to obey their husbands so long as it does not go against Allah and His messenger :saw:

If sisters want to know their husband's intentions for them ordering niqaab, well you need to ask your husband that. And if the answer is because he doesnt want anyone staring at you like an object, then for me thats a good reason and i would happily wear it.

:salams

aww Masha'Allah sis:inlove:

you know sorry to go off topic but I finally understood your Avator! :rofl1: Subhan'Allah you 'rock' sis! :p :embar:

:wswrwb:

ur_yusra
13-04-06, 11:40 PM
exactly :up:



a man is less likely to get his desires aroused by seeing a women in a niqaab than not ina niqaab- simply because it covers more of her.

yes but a woman in niqaab is more likely to get abuse from kuffaar??

Some brothers do not let their wives wear niqaab because of this !!!..

of course those are of the opinion that it is sunnah.. because no fardh can be disregarded for the sake of the kuffar..

Niqaabi
13-04-06, 11:41 PM
:salams

aww Masha'Allah sis:inlove:

you know sorry to go off topic but I finally understood your Avator! :rofl1: Subhan'Allah you 'rock' sis! :p :embar:

:wswrwb:
yup i do dont i? @)

janathi
13-04-06, 11:42 PM
yup i do dont i? @)

:salams

*nods in complete agreement!* :inlove: :love:

:wswrwb:

Nawar
13-04-06, 11:43 PM
Hijaab was ordered for women. Women were also ordered to obey their husbands so long as it does not go against Allah and His messenger :saw:

If sisters want to know their husband's intentions for them ordering niqaab, well you need to ask your husband that. And if the answer is because he doesnt want anyone staring at you like an object, then for me thats a good reason and i would happily wear it.


Yep, good point.....but the issue of 'forcing' someone, who may have not ever worn niqaab before, never even thought about it, is also important. Anyhow, Im sure most husbands would encourage the sister inshallah in the right manner.

Side note; to your earlier post...'chirpsed' lol!!! I havent heard that word for ageeeeeeeeeees. reminds me of school...lol

ur_yusra
13-04-06, 11:45 PM
well the best way to judge his intention is by the following I guess..

If he forced you to wear niqaab but had no problem with you missing fajr in the morning.. :rolleyes:

Niqaabi
13-04-06, 11:49 PM
Yep, good point.....but the issue of 'forcing' someone, who may have not ever worn niqaab before, never even thought about it, is also important. Anyhow, Im sure most husbands would encourage the sister inshallah in the right manner.

Side note; to your earlier post...'chirpsed' lol!!! I havent heard that word for ageeeeeeeeeees. reminds me of school...lol
Lol nawar i wanted to think of a word and this is the first that came to my head!

Nawar
13-04-06, 11:49 PM
well the best way to judge his intention is by the following I guess..

If he forced you to wear niqaab but had no problem with you missing fajr in the morning.. :rolleyes:


Interesting......very interesting.......

Niqaabi
13-04-06, 11:52 PM
well the best way to judge his intention is by the following I guess..

If he forced you to wear niqaab but had no problem with you missing fajr in the morning.. :rolleyes:
Hmm well i wouldnt think his intentions were wrong, i think he just needs to sort out his priorities.
But as for niqaab, i always assume brothers order the niqaab on their wives because they are protective of their wives, unlike kaffirs guys who want to show off their gf and wife as a trophy :rolleyes:

MalikOne™
13-04-06, 11:55 PM
yes but a woman in niqaab is more likely to get abuse from kuffaar??

Some brothers do not let their wives wear niqaab because of this !!!..

of course those are of the opinion that it is sunnah.. because no fardh can be disregarded for the sake of the kuffar..

Yeh thats why id leave it up 2 her...if shes strong enuf to face that then alhamdullilah...still tho if she was wit a mahram when on the streets that'd be most likely avoided and if not the kufar that hurled the abuse wud live to regret it :D

ur_yusra
13-04-06, 11:58 PM
Interesting......very interesting.......

well.. u knw..

If I don't say so myself.. :rolleyes:

Emelianenko
14-04-06, 01:12 AM
I understand where sis yusra is coming from and her point. The husbands duty is to encourage the wife if his sole concern is how can his wife become more obedient to Allah swt. For tht all he can do is encourage..if one does an act like wearing the niqaab and not from the heart it can backfire. If one wants to wear it from the heart and for Allahs pleasure..no matter what tests they will face they will be as firm as a mountain..no matter how strong the wind is it cannot move the mountain..same way no matter how fierce the tests r from Allah inshaAllah the sis will remain steadfast.

For bro's who use example they wouldnt want men looking at their wves..Alhmadulillah..and tht they dont wanna go round bashing heads..well erm sorry but today if u walk around wid ur mrs wearing a niqaab most likely u will get into a confrontation with someone.

And if the Husband forces the wife to wear Niqaab then she should in return try forcing him also to grow a full beard and wear the thobe all the time and pull his trousers above his ankles..cus in this day and age ppl will point fingers at you and laugh :p :p when they see u walking around with ur trousers above ur ankles :p :p

Al-Irhaab
14-04-06, 01:19 AM
women dont understand gheerah of men... well women nowadays dont understand it anyway :rolleyes:

i dont care if its my wife my daughter or my sister i dont want no man staring at them demeaning their hounour as happens regularly... that for us is obediance to allah (swt)... by wanting our women to be presevered we are obeying the will of allah (swt)... i would encourage my wife to wear niqaab and my sister and my daughter... and if they didnt listen... i would force them to :torture:

women just look for excuses for everything... what sisters need to think is their pride that high that just because they are being ordered by their husbands to do a good thing and not asked then they should be angry and upset... women nowadays just dont like being told what to do... as dont men... even if its a good thing... and they will refuse to do a good thing just because theyre being told to do it and not being asked...:rolleyes:

ur_yusra
14-04-06, 01:32 AM
women dont understand gheerah of men... well women nowadays dont understand it anyway :rolleyes:

i dont care if its my wife my daughter or my sister i dont want no man staring at them demeaning their hounour as happens regularly... that for us is obediance to allah (swt)... by wanting our women to be presevered we are obeying the will of allah (swt)... i would encourage my wife to wear niqaab and my sister and my daughter... and if they didnt listen... i would force them to :torture:

women just look for excuses for everything... what sisters need to think is their pride that high that just because they are being ordered by their husbands to do a good thing and not asked then they should be angry and upset... women nowadays just dont like being told what to do... as dont men... even if its a good thing... and they will refuse to do a good thing just because theyre being told to do it and not being asked...:rolleyes:

ok well then I expect you will also keep a beard and wear a jalabiyyah.. and role your trousers above your ankles..

as emel so kindly pointed out..

Al-Irhaab
14-04-06, 01:39 AM
ok well then I expect you will also keep a beard and wear a jalabiyyah.. and role your trousers above your ankles..

as emel so kindly pointed out..

yes i would have a beard and yes i would have my trousers above my ankles... dont know abt the jalabiyyah might have my kurta and that :D

ur_yusra
14-04-06, 01:42 AM
yes i would have a beard and yes i would have my trousers above my ankles... dont know abt the jalabiyyah might have my kurta and that :D

freshie.. :rolleyes:

anyway I still dont think men should IMPOSE something like the niqaab on women..

Al-Irhaab
14-04-06, 01:47 AM
freshie.. :rolleyes:

anyway I still dont think men should IMPOSE something like the niqaab on women..

why not... because ur imposing the path to jannah on someone its wrong? man impose jannah on me whoever u are anytime of the day i aint gonna complain :D sometimes people got to be dragged into jannah... when the book of allah (swt) does not correct a person the sword of allah (Swt) will correct him...

Emelianenko
14-04-06, 01:50 AM
why not... because ur imposing the path to jannah on someone its wrong? man impose jannah on me whoever u are anytime of the day i aint gonna complain :D sometimes people got to be dragged into jannah... when the book of allah (swt) does not correct a person the sword of allah (Swt) will correct him...
Thts easier said than done bro..look within yourself and u might find u gonna have to put the sword to urself :rolleyes:

ur_yusra
14-04-06, 01:52 AM
why not... because ur imposing the path to jannah on someone its wrong? man impose jannah on me whoever u are anytime of the day i aint gonna complain :D sometimes people got to be dragged into jannah... when the book of allah (swt) does not correct a person the sword of allah (Swt) will correct him...

What are you going on about..

start from scratch.. do you believe the niqaab is fardh?

ur_yusra
14-04-06, 01:53 AM
Thts easier said than done bro..look within yourself and u might find u gonna have to put the sword to urself :rolleyes:

If only rep points could go greater then fifty..

you deserve a hefty number..

Al-Irhaab
14-04-06, 02:00 AM
Thts easier said than done bro..look within yourself and u might find u gonna have to put the sword to urself :rolleyes:

u cannot put the sword to urself... it is for this reason that u have brothers a community a jammah ... there is always someone there to put the sword to u and force u to do that which u are weak to do... it is the blessing of brotherhood ... its like when u go on jamat... u dont want to wake after fajr and do the duties etc not all the time anyway but u do it cus thats ur assignment u do it for fear of the people and embarassment or cus u dont want to be shouted meaning that is a help....

i see within myself my own weaknesses that is why i wish to keep with those who will force me on the right path even if i stray...

Emelianenko
14-04-06, 02:13 AM
u cannot put the sword to urself... it is for this reason that u have brothers a community a jammah ... there is always someone there to put the sword to u and force u to do that which u are weak to do... it is the blessing of brotherhood ... its like when u go on jamat... u dont want to wake after fajr and do the duties etc not all the time anyway but u do it cus thats ur assignment u do it for fear of the people and embarassment or cus u dont want to be shouted meaning that is a help....

i see within myself my own weaknesses that is why i wish to keep with those who will force me on the right path even if i stray...
Thats all fair enough bro..alhmdulillah i understand where you are coming from..but we have been commanded to do everything with Hikmah and a soft tone..i have been jamats where weve had some right nutty guys who wont get up for fajr but all i can do is try to pursuade em..i cant say ok guys lets put him to the sword now...Unlike us men women cannot go out their and be around practising ppl all the time and have someone to push them..the only person they have to do tht is their husband..and if he comes around saying hey wear it or face the sword or whatknot then how on earth will that work? I understand your point about the gheerah of a man but bro the rules of purdah and protecting ones gazes also applies for men but we always seem to forget tht. If a womans own husband cannot support her in advancing in deen by using wisdom and luv and encouragement then sheesh if anyone needs to learn their deen its the husband himself.

Al-Irhaab
14-04-06, 02:30 AM
Thats all fair enough bro..alhmdulillah i understand where you are coming from..but we have been commanded to do everything with Hikmah and a soft tone..i have been jamats where weve had some right nutty guys who wont get up for fajr but all i can do is try to pursuade em..i cant say ok guys lets put him to the sword now...Unlike us men women cannot go out their and be around practising ppl all the time and have someone to push them..the only person they have to do tht is their husband..and if he comes around saying hey wear it or face the sword or whatknot then how on earth will that work? I understand your point about the gheerah of a man but bro the rules of purdah and protecting ones gazes also applies for men but we always seem to forget tht. If a womans own husband cannot support her in advancing in deen by using wisdom and luv and encouragement then sheesh if anyone needs to learn their deen its the husband himself.

bro saying the sword doesnt mean beat them ... :D

its a metaphorical statement which is supposed to mean that the person is not doing it from his own accord or more accurately desire but because someone else has pushed him, gauded him, nagged him etc... not neccessarily forced him... i would use wisdom and love and encouragement but everything has its limits if at the end of my loving wise and encouraging reasoning behind wearking nikaab she said no then i would order her to wear it , and that applies for sister wife or daughter.... the rules of purdah apply to men yes and women and to lower their gaze applies to both... but the limits are different... the men did not cover their faces but the women did during the time of the sahaba... and the fitnah of the women is ten times the fitnah of the man... :rolleyes:

Emelianenko
14-04-06, 02:46 AM
Aye bro..If after trying everything then aye maybe she does need a push and ordering..BUT..giving up the easy approach and wisdom and love doesnt mean like 3 weeks and then shout away..and ur limits? Bro Firoun claimed he was god, Murdered thousands of children..Yet Allah still Commanded Musa and Haroon AS to speak in a soft tone and wisdom so tht he may repent and realise.

And bro aye their may be more fitnah in women. Takes two to tango..they ordered to cover their face cus of Men and their desires getting out of hand. :rolleyes:

But Alhamdulillah ya kno..we need to strike that balance as ur saying..but as nabi saw advised us with women..dont try to straighten em or bend em too much cus ull break em. InshaAllah teaching the wife the Virtues of Veiling and so on with love and whatknot and plenty of dua will be enough inshaAllah to give her tht push she needs.

Al-Irhaab
14-04-06, 02:51 AM
Aye bro..If after trying everything then aye maybe she does need a push and ordering..BUT..giving up the easy approach and wisdom and love doesnt mean like 3 weeks and then shout away..and ur limits? Bro Firoun claimed he was god, Murdered thousands of children..Yet Allah still Commanded Musa and Haroon AS to speak in a soft tone and wisdom so tht he may repent and realise.

And bro aye their may be more fitnah in women. Takes two to tango..they ordered to cover their face cus of Men and their desires getting out of hand. :rolleyes:

But Alhamdulillah ya kno..we need to strike that balance as ur saying..but as nabi saw advised us with women..dont try to straighten em or bend em too much cus ull break em. InshaAllah teaching the wife the Virtues of Veiling and so on with love and whatknot and plenty of dua will be enough inshaAllah to give her tht push she needs.

hmmm musa (as) was very harsh with firaun he treated him as he deserved to be treated there was no pally pally with him... but yes try properly not half hearted...

yup men are stupid and jahil if they dont lower their gazes... may allah (swt) help us all to avoid that...

ur_yusra
14-04-06, 02:59 AM
hmmm musa (as) was very harsh with firaun he treated him as he deserved to be treated there was no pally pally with him... but yes try properly not half hearted...

yup men are stupid and jahil if they dont lower their gazes... may allah (swt) help us all to avoid that...

ameen.. that is such a despicable act..

Emelianenko
14-04-06, 03:08 AM
hmmm musa (as) was very harsh with firaun he treated him as he deserved to be treated there was no pally pally with him... but yes try properly not half hearted...

The advice from Allah swt is clear. The Quran is till the day of Qiyamah. That advice was revealed in the Quran and for us to take note of.

Allah swt says: [to Musa and Haroon AS]Go, You and your brother, with My signs, and do not slacken and become weak in My rememberance. Go, both of you, unto Pharoah. He, indeed has transgressed (the bounds). And speak unto him a gentle word that perchance, he may heed or fear. (Ta-Ha)

InshaAllah couples should always try to support each other in their deen. It is common for todays Muslims men to order their wife to do this and that but think the wifes getting too big for her shoes when she gives naseeha also. Both the husband and wife should be such that they can receive naseeha from each other open heartedly inshaAllah.

ur_yusra
14-04-06, 03:23 AM
The advice from Allah swt is clear. The Quran is till the day of Qiyamah. That advice was revealed in the Quran and for us to take note of.

Allah swt says: [to Musa and Haroon AS]Go, You and your brother, with My signs, and do not slacken and become weak in My rememberance. Go, both of you, unto Pharoah. He, indeed has transgressed (the bounds). And speak unto him a gentle word that perchance, he may heed or fear. (Ta-Ha)

InshaAllah couples should always try to support each other in their deen. It is common for todays Muslims men to order their wife to do this and that but think the wifes getting too big for her shoes when she gives naseeha also. Both the husband and wife should be receive naseeha from each other open heartedly inshaAllah.

your mighty sharp at half four in the morning..

Emelianenko
14-04-06, 03:28 AM
your mighty sharp at half four in the morning..
Im a bearded vampire thts why :eek3: hehe :p :p

MangoChutney
14-04-06, 05:26 AM
I think you are meaning that Your Wife is Soooo beautiful that Niqaab would be a protection for her...

Isn't that right?....(just Nod in agreement)

If my wife told me that I was so attractive that I kept getting people look at me...
And she asked me to cover my face in public...I WOULD...for my wife and because it would stop others from sinning and because InshaAllah if I make my wife Happy then it is Ibadah...

pls dont tell u'd also wear niqaab?! :rubeyes: :hidban:

LOL, two niqaabi's hand in hand...:D

Umar`
14-04-06, 09:06 AM
Yeh niqaab is really coool :D makes sistas look militant and if i was out in the street wit my wife id prefer she wear niqaab- so she doesent get no pervs lookin at her- it'd save me bustin alot more heads. :D But I wouldnt force her to wear it- id make it clear to her thats its her desicion but id encourage it.
:up:
Apart from the extra hasanah aspect, it is a good form of dawah.
The kuffar hate not to be able to see the muslim woman, they think it is a right of theirs, they have no concept of modesty, purity or jealousy,and it does look militant:D , alhamdulilah.
The believers come with the truth even though the mushrikun detest it.

1 ummah
14-04-06, 09:50 AM
:salams

why not... because ur imposing the path to jannah on someone its wrong? man impose jannah on me whoever u are anytime of the day i aint gonna complain :D sometimes people got to be dragged into jannah... when the book of allah (swt) does not correct a person the sword of allah (Swt) will correct him...

but then whats the point? if ur being obliged to do something by someone which is supposed to be for the sake of Allah only, then u did not have the correct intention in the first place.. and u would not get the reward because:
The Prophet (S.A.W) said:
"Deeds are [a result] only of the intentions [of the actor], and an individual is [rewarded] only according to that which he intends.."

so basically, if u force ur wife/daughter/sister to wear a niqaab because she wasnt listening to u wen u approached her nicely, then Allahu A3lam but she will not be rewarded as much as the one who had an intention to wear it for the sake of Allah, not coz her husbands gonna be mad at her if she doesnt ..

sajid
14-04-06, 10:20 AM
i wudnt mind either have no problem with it....wud prolly prefer her to though but her choice

but check this out ive spoken to a few brothers and al about this and all some of them goes to me "it makes teh sister looks more mililtant" (i think someoen made that comment earlier here :rolleyes: since the brother were a bit of a millitant type themselves..weird lol

Ibn Khattab
14-04-06, 10:45 AM
i wudnt mind either have no problem with it....wud prolly prefer her to though but her choice

but check this out ive spoken to a few brothers and al about this and all some of them goes to me "it makes teh sister looks more mililtant" (i think someoen made that comment earlier here :rolleyes: since the brother were a bit of a millitant type themselves..weird lol

malikone *cough*, mashallah very millitant brother.

i personally wudnt mind wearing niqaab, if it means giving us protection.

janathi
14-04-06, 10:55 AM
malikone *cough*, mashallah very millitant brother.

i personally wudnt mind wearing niqaab, if it means giving us protection.

:salams

:rolleyes: ...Masha'Allah

:wswrwb:

.: Anna :.
14-04-06, 11:06 AM
I didnt read the whole thread cos its too long :p but anyway I agree with what I think Niqaabi said, or muslim sis... If ur hubby asks u to do something which is not against Islam, then u should do it. Especially if it's something which is a benefit for you.
Plus I agree men shud hav gheera, and if our husbands are bit jealous n dnt wnt other ppl looking or whatever, dnt get in a mood about it... it's a good characteristic so we shud be happy. If they dnt care about what ur doing, happy to see u running around in the street with tight clothes and no hijab, thats when u shud b worried, not if he wants u to wear niqaab.
Although as for me I dnt wear niqaab..I know if I did, my hubby would b pleased about that, but also my parents wouldnt be too pleased. My dad said to me before, he doesn't mind hijaab even he thinks it looks nice, but he doesnt like me to cover my face, cos for him thats too much i guess :S So I dnt want to alienate my parents, so cos Baba knows that, he wouldnt actually ask me to wear Niqaab bc I will be then in an awkward position between my husband and my parents.

BHAI
14-04-06, 11:21 AM
my wife just wears a scarf,
shes very shy....thats important

ive been smiled at too much in asian shops by niqaabis im serving:confused:

the keyword is haya...not black cloth,or as now ive seen ,leopard skin patterns,and all manner of designs:rubeyes:

Supernova Nebula
14-04-06, 11:22 AM
I didnt read the whole thread cos its too long :p but anyway I agree with what I think Niqaabi said, or muslim sis... If ur hubby asks u to do something which is not against Islam, then u should do it. Especially if it's something which is a benefit for you.
Plus I agree men shud hav gheera, and if our husbands are bit jealous n dnt wnt other ppl looking or whatever, dnt get in a mood about it... it's a good characteristic so we shud be happy. If they dnt care about what ur doing, happy to see u running around in the street with tight clothes and no hijab, thats when u shud b worried, not if he wants u to wear niqaab.
Although as for me I dnt wear niqaab..I know if I did, my hubby would b pleased about that, but also my parents wouldnt be too pleased. My dad said to me before, he doesn't mind hijaab even he thinks it looks nice, but he doesnt like me to cover my face, cos for him thats too much i guess :S So I dnt want to alienate my parents, so cos Baba knows that, he wouldnt actually ask me to wear Niqaab bc I will be then in an awkward position between my husband and my parents.

MashaAllah anna, youre lucky to have non-muslim parents who are not against Islam. May Allah guide them through you. amin.

janathi
14-04-06, 11:26 AM
MashaAllah anna, youre lucky to have non-muslim parents who are not against Islam. May Allah guide them through you. amin.

:salams

Ameen! :inlove:

:wswrwb:

Niqaabi
14-04-06, 11:41 AM
If only rep points could go greater then fifty..

you deserve a hefty number..
Ditto, only i actually mean it for Al-Irhaab cos i thought he's posts were :up:

Niqaabi
14-04-06, 11:43 AM
ive been smiled at too much in asian shops by niqaabis im serving:confused: you've been smiled at by NIQAABIS? :rolleyes:
how exactly did you see that smile? :rolleyes:

1 ummah
14-04-06, 11:43 AM
you've been smiled at by NIQAABIS? :rolleyes:
how exactly did you see that smile? :rolleyes:

lol i was jus gonna say that!

BHAI
14-04-06, 11:45 AM
you've been smiled at by NIQAABIS? :rolleyes:
how exactly did you see that smile? :rolleyes:

while serving them,the hoods are up,awkward:(

khair ,:lailah:

Niqaabi
14-04-06, 11:46 AM
:salams



but then whats the point? if ur being obliged to do something by someone which is supposed to be for the sake of Allah only, then u did not have the correct intention in the first place.. and u would not get the reward because:
The Prophet (S.A.W) said:
"Deeds are [a result] only of the intentions [of the actor], and an individual is [rewarded] only according to that which he intends.."

so basically, if u force ur wife/daughter/sister to wear a niqaab because she wasnt listening to u wen u approached her nicely, then Allahu A3lam but she will not be rewarded as much as the one who had an intention to wear it for the sake of Allah, not coz her husbands gonna be mad at her if she doesnt ..
Actually sis you would be rewarded. To wear the niqaab with the intention of obeying your husband is for the sake of Allah, so Allah will not hold you accountable for disobeying your husband.

And if a sis wears niqaab because her hubby said so, and then later realised that she liked wearing it because its bringing her closer to Allah then her intentioned has changed and she will get double reward :insha:

Please sisters who have husbands wanting them to wear the niqaab, just wear it and dont argue.

1 ummah
14-04-06, 11:50 AM
Actually sis you would be rewarded. To wear the niqaab with the intention of obeying your husband is for the sake of Allah, so Allah will not hold you accountable for disobeying your husband.

And if a sis wears niqaab because her hubby said so, and then later realised that she liked wearing it because its bringing her closer to Allah then her intentioned has changed and she will get double reward :insha:

Please sisters who have husbands wanting them to wear the niqaab, just wear it and dont argue.

yeah i agree that they will get the reward for obeying their husband, but if she was obliged to wear it then she would not get the reward for the actual wearing of the niqaab.. do u get me..(Allahu A3lam) she would have obeyed her husband- ok good, but would not have worn it out of her own will with an intention of pleasing Allah..
however, its true that if she (after being forced..) enjoys wearing the niqaab and her intentions change then inshallah yes she will get double reward

.: Anna :.
14-04-06, 12:04 PM
while serving them,the hoods are up,awkward:(

khair ,:lailah:y do they have to lift their niqaab to get served? :S weird

ur_yusra
14-04-06, 03:08 PM
while serving them,the hoods are up,awkward:(

khair ,:lailah:

...:scratch:

Can someone please explain this issue of gheerah... what Islam says about it..

Emelianenko
14-04-06, 03:15 PM
This is what i found on Gheerah.

Reviving Our Sense of Gheerah Fatima Barkatulla Article ID: 860 | 925 Reads
We live in societies in which most men and women have lost their sense of modesty, women are obsessed with their appearances and wear clothes to be seen by others and to attract the attention of other men even if they are married! They have lost their sense of shame. Marriage is often looked upon as old-fashioned and short term affairs and frivolous relationships are the norm, everyone waiting to attract a better partner and feeling totally justified to dump one partner for another at the drop of a hat. Feminism too has reached its peak and men and women are told to suppress their natural emotions. Men are not even embarrassed when their wives are dressed up and attract the attention of other men, they don't mind if another man sees, chats, laughs and even dances with their womenfolk and if they do mind, they are told not to be so possessive!

In Islam we have a concept of Gheerah. Gheerah is an Arabic word which means protectiveness or jealousy. It is a good type of jealousy, like when a man feels jealous or protective over his wife or sisters and other-womenfolk and doesn't like other men to look at them. It is a natural inbuilt feeling Allah has given men and women. The Prophet (SAW) had the most Gheerah for his wives and all of the companions were known for their Gheerah. All Muslim men should have a collective sense of protectiveness for Muslim women as Allah says in the Qur'an: "The Men are the protectors and maintainers of women…" (Surah An-Nisaa, Ayah 34). Men who do not care about how their women behave and appear in front of other men and don't enforce hijaab upon their wives or women-folk are called Dayyooth. Being a Dayyooth is a major sin and a detailed discription of this evil characteristic can be found in adh-Dhahabee's book of Major Sins (Kitaab ul-Kabaa'ir).

A story of Gheerah

To further understand the quality of Gheerah, we can look at an incident that Asmaa' (RA) the daughter of Abu Bakr As-Siddeeq (RA) and sister of Aisha (RA), relates about herself. Abu Bakr was a wealthy merchant and he married his daughter Asmaa' to the great companion Az-Zubayr ibn al-'Awwam (RA) who was a very poor man but a man of great piety and one of the companions who were promised Paradise. Asmaa' relates: "When az-Zubayr married me, he had neither land nor wealth nor slave…", so Asmaa' had to work very hard kneading dough, going far off to get water. "And I used to carry on my head," she continues, "the date stones from the land of az-Zubair which Allah's Messenger (SAW) had endowed him and it was a distance of two miles from Madeenah. One day, as I was carrying the date-stones upon my head, I happened to meet Allah's Messenger (SAW), along with a group of his Companions. He called me and told the camel to sit down so that he could make me ride behind him. I felt shy to go with men and I remembered az-Zubair and his Gheerah and he was a man having the most Gheerah. The Messenger of Allah (SAW) understood my shyness and left. I came to az-Zubair and said: "The Messenger of Allah (SAW) met me as I was carrying date-stones upon my head and there was with him a group of his Companions. He told the camel to kneel so that I could mount it, but I felt shy and I remembered your Gheerah." So Asmaa' declined the offer made by the Prophet (SAW). Upon this az-Zubair said: "By Allah, the thought of you carrying date-stones upon your head is more severe a burden on me than you riding with him." (related in Saheeh Bukhari)

Look at the sense of dignity and modesty of Asmaa'! See how she felt shy in front of men? See how careful she was about her husband's feelings? She knew that her husband had a lot of Gheerah so she didn't want to upset him by accepting the Prophet's (SAW) help even though the Prophet was the purest of men and even though it meant bringing hardship on herself! And look at az-Zubair (RA), even though he had a lot of Gheerah, he didn't want to inconvenience his wife. What a beautiful relationship they had!


Nurturing our sense of Gheerah

Sometimes Muslim women don't understand if their menfolk want them to cover their faces or if they ask them to change something about the way they dress or speak in public, thinking that the men are being over-protective. But my dear sisters! If your husband asks you not to wear a certain colour of khimaar because it brings out the beauty of your eyes, or if he wants you to cover your face - by Allah, be thankful! Be proud of the fact that your husband has a sense of Gheerah for you and that he values you and cares for your hereafter. He knows what men can be like more than you do and so never try and suppress his Gheerah in these types of matters. And his concern for you should incite your own sense of honour! Why should any man be able to see your beauty and think indecent thoughts about you? We must nurture our own and our menfolk's sense of Gheerah by behaving and dressing modestly ourselves and paying attention to their valid opinions. We expect certain behaviour from them and they expect it of us. And besides, if our husband asks us to do something that it not Haraam, we must do it.

Subhan Allah! Look at the difference between how Islam values and protects women and how cheaply women are treated outside of Islam! As Muslims we have to be careful that our Hayaa' (sense of modesty and shame) and Gheerah doesn't wear out in a society in which people have lost their Hayaa' and Gheerah.

ur_yusra
14-04-06, 04:31 PM
JazakAllahu khere emel..

That was very informative..

are there any more examples of gheerah shown by the sahaba (ra).. ??

.: Anna :.
14-04-06, 04:40 PM
Jazakallah khayr emel :)

Le Croyant
14-04-06, 04:51 PM
My wife wears niqaab but she used to do that before we got married. And I would personally not marry someone who would not prefer to wear niqab (she didnt have to wer bfore but after marriage yes).

Le Croyant
14-04-06, 04:54 PM
but then whats the point? if ur being obliged to do something by someone which is supposed to be for the sake of Allah only, then u did not have the correct intention in the first place.. and u would not get the reward because:
The Prophet (S.A.W) said:
"Deeds are [a result] only of the intentions [of the actor], and an individual is [rewarded] only according to that which he intends.."

so basically, if u force ur wife/daughter/sister to wear a niqaab because she wasnt listening to u wen u approached her nicely, then Allahu A3lam but she will not be rewarded as much as the one who had an intention to wear it for the sake of Allah, not coz her husbands gonna be mad at her if she doesnt ..

If some forced thier friend/brother/sisters, or anyone else to pray then may b that person will not get the same reward or may b not any reward but at the same time he/she will not get any sins either that they would got for missing thier prayers.

ur_yusra
14-04-06, 04:58 PM
If some forced thier friend/brother/sisters, or anyone else to pray then may b that person will not get the same reward or may b not any reward but at the same time he/she will not get any sins either that they would got for missing thier prayers.

That is fair enough.. but many people follow the opinion that it is not a sin to NOT wear niqaab...

Le Croyant
14-04-06, 05:07 PM
That is fair enough.. but many people follow the opinion that it is not a sin to NOT wear niqaab...

yes sis i understand that. :) I have not read much on the topic of niqab but I dont think it's fard either but highly recommended.

i pointed that example just to show that forcing someone to do something mite b good for them even though they mite not realize it at that moment. Especially when it comes to salat, zakat, sawm , beards, hijab (niqab for some.. depending on the ruling they follow), n some more

BHAI
14-04-06, 05:09 PM
That is fair enough.. but many people follow the opinion that it is not a sin to NOT wear niqaab...
I GUESS ULTIMATELY ITS A BALANCE OF THINGS,
AND THE INTERNAL CONDITION:)
AND ALLAH KNOWS BEST WHOSE IN THE BEST CONDITION

Hayaa
14-04-06, 06:07 PM
I also want to know from sisters.. if your husband wanted you to wear niqaab would you wear it? or would you rebel?
I don’t find anything ‘odd’ in it to rebel - I mean, if my husband would want me to take off the hijab or niqab then yea, I’d have rebelled...

I feel safe wearing the hijab, and that safety stems from the fact that am following God’s commandment, thus am content

InshaAllah, I plan to start observing niqab soon, and am defo sure that my husband would respect that – cuz he himself is aware that it’s the best option a woman has [has both their dignity intact :) ] I will not delve upon 'niqab' being a fard, cuz opinions differ...

That is fair enough.. but many people follow the opinion that it is not a sin to NOT wear niqaab...yea, opinions differ but sister, do look at the following, go thru the last part esp. – “Please Consider the Following”

My Muslim Sister (http://www.islamhouse.com/en/books/pdf/en2299.pdf#search='sexual%20appeal%20in%20gulf')


:)

Niqaabi
14-04-06, 07:50 PM
yeah i agree that they will get the reward for obeying their husband, but if she was obliged to wear it then she would not get the reward for the actual wearing of the niqaab.. do u get me..(Allahu A3lam) she would have obeyed her husband- ok good, but would not have worn it out of her own will with an intention of pleasing Allah..
however, its true that if she (after being forced..) enjoys wearing the niqaab and her intentions change then inshallah yes she will get double reward
She doesnt get rewarded for wearing the niqaab but she wont get sin for doing it either. So I dont see a problem with this.
I'm sorry if this hurts anyone, but sometimes I think sisters who say they want to know the 'intention of the brother' or say 'the intention isnt for Allah' is just an excuse for sisters not to do this.
Who cares if you dont get reward for wearing niqaab? You will get a greater reward for obeying your husband.
The messenger of Allah :saw: has said that a woman who obeys her husband, keeps his home safe (along the lines) and guards her 5 daily prayers will enter jannah through any 8 doors.

So tell me sisters, who is actually willing to give all this up just because "my intention wouldnt be right?" :rolleyes:

If i didnt wear niqaab right now, and my husband told me to wear it, then id happily do it. To obey him.
Just like a young child of 7-10 wont usually pray, but will do when the mother/father orders it to because it has to obey it's parents.

ur_yusra
14-04-06, 07:54 PM
She doesnt get rewarded for wearing the niqaab but she wont get sin for doing it either. So I dont see a problem with this.
I'm sorry if this hurts anyone, but sometimes I think sisters who say they want to know the 'intention of the brother' or say 'the intention isnt for Allah' is just an excuse for sisters not to do this.
Who cares if you dont get reward for wearing niqaab? You will get a greater reward for obeying your husband.
The messenger of Allah :saw: has said that a woman who obeys her husband, keeps his home safe (along the lines) and guards her 5 daily prayers will enter jannah through any 8 doors.

So tell me sisters, who is actually willing to give all this up just because "my intention wouldnt be right?" :rolleyes:

If i didnt wear niqaab right now, and my husband told me to wear it, then id happily do it. To obey him.
Just like a young child of 7-10 wont usually pray, but will do when the mother/father orders it to because it has to obey it's parents.

On the assumption that that was referring to my comments :p

I have always wanted to wear the niqaab and will do so inshaAllah because it is something that I want to do.. whether I get married or not..

But if my husband tells me to do it.. I will ask him why..

Niqaabi
14-04-06, 08:09 PM
On the assumption that that was referring to my comments :p

I have always wanted to wear the niqaab and will do so inshaAllah because it is something that I want to do.. whether I get married or not..

But if my husband tells me to do it.. I will ask him why..
Sis it wasnt a personal attack on you :love: I was just saying it feels as if some sisters want to get out of doing it, when both intentions (wearing bcos u do, and wearing it bcos of ur hubby) is fine.

And sis already you said in the sisters section you adore the niqaab, so it wasnt aimed at you hun :love: *hugs*

muslim_sis
14-04-06, 08:52 PM
She doesnt get rewarded for wearing the niqaab but she wont get sin for doing it either. So I dont see a problem with this.
I'm sorry if this hurts anyone, but sometimes I think sisters who say they want to know the 'intention of the brother' or say 'the intention isnt for Allah' is just an excuse for sisters not to do this.
Who cares if you dont get reward for wearing niqaab? You will get a greater reward for obeying your husband.
The messenger of Allah :saw: has said that a woman who obeys her husband, keeps his home safe (along the lines) and guards her 5 daily prayers will enter jannah through any 8 doors.

So tell me sisters, who is actually willing to give all this up just because "my intention wouldnt be right?" :rolleyes:

If i didnt wear niqaab right now, and my husband told me to wear it, then id happily do it. To obey him.
Just like a young child of 7-10 wont usually pray, but will do when the mother/father orders it to because it has to obey it's parents.
exactly,i agree ... but i dont think it should just be like >command>obey ,without a friendship goin on ... because if for example i wanted my friend to wear niqaab , id encourage and say i think u should coz this that because this and that etc , so please wear it, or sumin (just an example) , i think thats the way it should be with the husband too , not just ''wear a niqaab'' > ''ok'' ... coz to me that seems like one a limited convo relationship ... duno if im actually makin sense nw,hmm

Emelianenko
14-04-06, 08:56 PM
exactly,i agree ... but i dont think it should just be like >command>obey ,without a friendship goin on ... because if for example i wanted my friend to wear niqaab , id encourage and say i think u should coz this that because this and that etc , so please wear it, or sumin (just an example) , i think thats the way it should be with the husband too , not just ''wear a niqaab'' > ''ok'' ... coz to me that seems like one a limited convo relationship ... duno if im actually makin sense nw,hmm
LOL i had to read tht like 3 times over to make sense of it :p :p :p jus jokin :D :D

MashaAllah good point sis.

Niqaabi
14-04-06, 08:57 PM
exactly,i agree ... but i dont think it should just be like >command>obey ,without a friendship goin on ... because if for example i wanted my friend to wear niqaab , id encourage and say i think u should coz this that because this and that etc , so please wear it, or sumin (just an example) , i think thats the way it should be with the husband too , not just ''wear a niqaab'' > ''ok'' ... coz to me that seems like one a limited convo relationship ... duno if im actually makin sense nw,hmm
Well its totally different with friends, cos with friends its not Hear and Obey isit? they're your friends so its up to them if they want to follow up on the naseeha, but as for a wife, sorry but it is Hear and Obey no choices about it.

But i do understand what you're trying to say @).
Like it shouldnt be "yo wife, here wear dis" *chucks niqaab at face*
"Sir, yes Sir!!!" :freedom:
More like "excuse mrs. unniqaabi, :insha: could you wear this as it is better for you and it would please me?" *places niqaab lightly on hand*
"why yes mr. bearded man, i would be happy to wear it for you" :meow:

:D

muslim_sis
14-04-06, 08:57 PM
LOL i had to read tht like 3 times over to make sense of it :p :p :p jus jokin :D :D

MashaAllah good point sis.
im :zzz: so please excuse the failure of NOT explaining properly :embar:

muslim_sis
14-04-06, 08:59 PM
Well its totally different with friends, cos with friends its not Hear and Obey isit? they're your friends so its up to them if they want to follow up on the naseeha, but as for a wife, sorry but it is Hear and Obey no choices about it.

But i do understand what you're trying to say @).
Like it shouldnt be "yo wife, here wear dis" *chucks niqaab at face*
"Sir, yes Sir!!!" :freedom:
More like "excuse mrs. unniqaabi, :insha: could you wear this as it is better for you and it would please me?" *places niqaab lightly on hand*
"why yes mr. bearded man, i would be happy to wear it for you" :meow:

:D
lol , u understand wat i mean then ;)
and btw ur husband should be ur friend TOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Niqaabi
14-04-06, 09:03 PM
lol , u understand wat i mean then ;)
and btw ur husband should be ur friend TOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah your husband should be your best friend, unless he stinks :p then he's just another stinkypooh :nervous:

muslim_sis
14-04-06, 09:06 PM
Yeah your husband should be your best friend, unless he stinks :p then he's just another stinkypooh :nervous:
:rotfl: LOL @ stinkypooh

Emelianenko
14-04-06, 09:14 PM
im :zzz: so please excuse the failure of NOT explaining properly :embar: *Queens english* you are excused :D :D

Niqaabi
14-04-06, 09:19 PM
:rotfl: LOL @ stinkypooh

Lol you will never guess whose stinkypooh! muhahaha :torture:

EDIT: we're not in sisters section so keep it down ;)

muslim_sis
14-04-06, 09:26 PM
Lol you will never guess whose stinkypooh! muhahaha :torture:

EDIT: we're not in sisters section so keep it down ;)
with 2 letters i can... not further to be discussed (under investigation!)

MalikOne™
14-04-06, 09:34 PM
. For bro's who use example they wouldnt want men looking at their wves..Alhmadulillah..and tht they dont wanna go round bashing heads..well erm sorry but today if u walk around wid ur mrs wearing a niqaab most likely u will get into a confrontation with someone.


...it all depends on ur location and time- if ur ina mainly kafir area u mite get some comments but if ur ina area where they're are quite a few ethinic groups..then they recognise so everythings cool.

Niqaabi
14-04-06, 09:38 PM
...it all depends on ur location and time- if ur ina mainly kafir area u mite get some comments but if ur ina area where they're are quite a few ethinic groups..then they recognise so everythings cool.
:rubeyes: wow malik1 we're agreeing and getting along :crying: this is so beautiful :D

MalikOne™
14-04-06, 09:45 PM
:rubeyes: wow malik1 we're agreeing and getting along :crying: this is so beautiful :D

Strange innit- we havent had a disagreement for nearly ages :rubeyes: :p

Niqaabi
14-04-06, 09:58 PM
Strange innit- we havent had a disagreement for nearly ages :rubeyes: :p
yeah QUICK!! find something we disagree on!!
*searches for old posts*

Emelianenko
14-04-06, 10:02 PM
...it all depends on ur location and time- if ur ina mainly kafir area u mite get some comments but if ur ina area where they're are quite a few ethinic groups..then they recognise so everythings cool.
Aye well thts london for u bruv..up north their r lot of multi cultural communities also but most of me mates have been close to some kind of confrontation everytime they step out with their wives. Allah hu Alam.

janathi
14-04-06, 10:06 PM
Strange innit- we havent had a disagreement for nearly ages :rubeyes: :p

:salams

Masha'Allah thats beautiful indeed :inlove: , Subhan'Allah, I'm still waiting for the day sister ur yusra and Akhi Al-Irhaab get along as you both are! Insha'Allah!! :p

:wswrwb:

MalikOne™
14-04-06, 10:07 PM
yeah QUICK!! find something we disagree on!!
*searches for old posts*

find anything yet? :p

oh yer type in "boxing" and a whole LIST will come up :rolleyes:

Niqaabi
14-04-06, 10:08 PM
find anything yet? :p

oh yer type in "boxing" and a whole LIST will come up :rolleyes:
:p

Janathi i doubt they will get along for too long, i think we're in for more arguing then now in the future :rolleyes:

MalikOne™
14-04-06, 10:09 PM
Aye well thts london for u bruv..up north their r lot of multi cultural communities also but most of me mates have been close to some kind of confrontation everytime they step out with their wives. Allah hu Alam.

Hmm yer I guess it depends on area

SoulAsylum
14-04-06, 11:02 PM
my wife just wears a scarf,
shes very shy....thats important

ive been smiled at too much in asian shops by niqaabis im serving:confused:

the keyword is haya...not black cloth,or as now ive seen ,leopard skin patterns,and all manner of designs:rubeyes:

Niqaabi sisters non niqaabi sisters..........

from my xperience everyones out for it, its a meat market....

its the way the world is.

Not saying its good/bad........its a fact of life!!

PaGaL~LaDo0
14-04-06, 11:45 PM
i think niqaabis r0ck man!!! and if my husband wanted me 2 wear the niqaab i would...:D but well someone i knew use to wear the niqaab but she g0t m0re attenti0n wearing the niqaab then when she didn't :eek3: so you know her husband was alright with her taking it off...c0z the wh0le p0int 0f it is t0 n0t attract attenti0n innit....


PR0PA ENG ;) @)

janathi
14-04-06, 11:46 PM
i think niqaabis r0ck man!!! and if my husband wanted me 2 wear the niqaab i would...:D but well someone i knew use to wear the niqaab but she g0t m0re attenti0n wearing the niqaab then when she didn't :eek3: so you know her husband was alright with her taking it off...c0z the wh0le p0int 0f it is t0 n0t attract attenti0n innit....


PR0PA ENG ;) @)

:salams

:inlove:

:wswrwb:

1 ummah
14-04-06, 11:48 PM
She doesnt get rewarded for wearing the niqaab but she wont get sin for doing it either. So I dont see a problem with this.
I'm sorry if this hurts anyone, but sometimes I think sisters who say they want to know the 'intention of the brother' or say 'the intention isnt for Allah' is just an excuse for sisters not to do this.
Who cares if you dont get reward for wearing niqaab? You will get a greater reward for obeying your husband.
The messenger of Allah :saw: has said that a woman who obeys her husband, keeps his home safe (along the lines) and guards her 5 daily prayers will enter jannah through any 8 doors.

So tell me sisters, who is actually willing to give all this up just because "my intention wouldnt be right?" :rolleyes:

If i didnt wear niqaab right now, and my husband told me to wear it, then id happily do it. To obey him.
Just like a young child of 7-10 wont usually pray, but will do when the mother/father orders it to because it has to obey it's parents.
:salams

im not saying in any way that i would not obey my husband (btw im not even married..lol) if he asks me to. also, u said "who cares if u dont get reward for wearing niqaab" .. well some people believe it is fardh, so it is a sin if they leave it. And btw i was talking about the intention of the wife (having been obliged to wear it) not the intention of the husband.. the husband obviously must have pure intentions when he wants the best for his wife (by asking her to wear the niqaab)! i hope im making sense :confused: :D

:wswrwb:

Niqaabi
15-04-06, 12:54 AM
:salams

im not saying in any way that i would not obey my husband (btw im not even married..lol) if he asks me to. also, u said "who cares if u dont get reward for wearing niqaab" .. well some people believe it is fardh, so it is a sin if they leave it. And btw i was talking about the intention of the wife (having been obliged to wear it) not the intention of the husband.. the husband obviously must have pure intentions when he wants the best for his wife (by asking her to wear the niqaab)! i hope im making sense :confused: :D

:wswrwb:
Well sister its there in my post, the intention of the wife would be for her husband, and she would get rewarded for that, because she is obeying her husband. So even for sisters who believe its fardh (wouldnt they be wearing it already? :scratch: ) they will still get the same reward for obeying their husbands.

does everyone get this now cos i feel as if im going round in circles writing them same thing over and over again, its me isnt it? :( i dont make sense anymore :crying: *runs in tears*

ur_yusra
15-04-06, 01:06 AM
Well sister its there in my post, the intention of the wife would be for her husband, and she would get rewarded for that, because she is obeying her husband. So even for sisters who believe its fardh (wouldnt they be wearing it already? :scratch: ) they will still get the same reward for obeying their husbands.

does everyone get this now cos i feel as if im going round in circles writing them same thing over and over again, its me isnt it? :( i dont make sense anymore :crying: *runs in tears*

no sis.. you do make sense.. even tho it is awfully late.. :p


:salams

Masha'Allah thats beautiful indeed :inlove: , Subhan'Allah, I'm still waiting for the day sister ur yusra and Akhi Al-Irhaab get along as you both are! Insha'Allah!! :p

:wswrwb:


If that day ever does come.. :rolleyes: ...

I'l make sure your the first to see it.. :p

Ar-Raya
15-04-06, 11:02 PM
pls dont tell u'd also wear niqaab?!

LOL, two niqaabi's hand in hand..
erm...perhaps not the niqaab,but probably the scarfs(dunno what they're called),the ones worn in the middle eastern arab countries...checkered scarfs with a rubber thing to keep it inplace...
If my wife asked this is...

I definately agree with Niqaabi...If you want your wife to do something...this goes in general not just to do with wearing niqaab...then make your words nice and speak softly and kindly to her...
She is afterall,your wife (which SHOULD mean that she is closer to you than almost all other people)...I mean friendship wise etc...

Surely she'll think..."oh,MashAllah my husband came to me so nicely and asked me to wear niqaab(,perhaps it might be hard for me...but he asked so nicely and I should really do as he says)...InshaAllah it'll make him happy,So I do it for the sake of Allah ta'ala as he has said that we should obey our husbands unless the tell us to do something haram...

THIS IS INSHAALLAH WHAT THEY'D THINK/SAY RATHER THAN IF YOU APPROACHED THEM HARSHLY

they might think...I wear this niqaab cos my huband keeps nagging me too...*Sighs*...InshaAllah he'll be kinder...
(the above is what i think would be what your wife would think,I AM A BEARDED BROTHER...)

:salams everyone..

Niqaabi
15-04-06, 11:38 PM
they might think...I wear this niqaab cos my huband keeps nagging me too...*Sighs*...InshaAllah he'll be kinder...
and the kaffirs end up being right about women 'forced' to wear the niqaab without the wife agreeing.

:up: nice one bro!

elefantebianco
16-04-06, 12:10 AM
and the kaffirs end up being right about women 'forced' to wear the niqaab without the wife agreeing.

:up: nice one bro!

Yeah thats an imp issue..

.bt i am on a mission to understand the niqab...i bought one...and i wnted to test it bt apparently u cnt...once its on its for good...can u sisters who whr it tell me why u chose to....and hw u feel it liberates u...esp...if u go uni...tell me hw it is..jazak Allahu khairan

Niqaabi
16-04-06, 12:20 AM
hmm i dont know, i think the reason why some feel that once its on, its on is so people dont misuse the niqaab.
Personally i am on the opinion it is not wajib but VERY highly recommended and my advice to any sister wishing to wear it would be to try it our and see what life is behind the veil @). :alhumdull all sisters that take my advice end up wearing it full time :p

I chose to wear it because i like it, and it brings me closer to Allah. Also at uni/college/work i am different from everyone, even those forced hijaabi muslims. Non muslims auto know that i am a different muslim compared to the others and i am approached by non muslims when they have an interest in Islam.
Niqaab is just me even my msn name is Niqaabi and even some of the da'ees know me as Niqaabi :embar:
:alhumdull i love the niqaab!

ur_yusra
16-04-06, 12:20 AM
Yeah thats an imp issue..

.bt i am on a mission to understand the niqab...i bought one...and i wnted to test it bt apparently u cnt...once its on its for good...can u sisters who whr it tell me why u chose to....and hw u feel it liberates u...esp...if u go uni...tell me hw it is..jazak Allahu khairan

Do you mean once you wear it you have to wear it all the time??

I know some sisters only wear it in places where there is particular freemixing, for example in marketplaces etc..

Niqaabi
16-04-06, 12:23 AM
Do you mean once you wear it you have to wear it all the time??

I know some sisters only wear it in places where there is particular freemixing, for example in marketplaces etc..
yeah my sisters mates arent allowed to wear it cos their fathers dont want them to, but when it comes to conferences etc they wear it.
But after they get married i think their going to wear it, they've been looking for an excuse to wear it :p

ur_yusra
16-04-06, 12:25 AM
yeah my sisters mates arent allowed to wear it cos their fathers dont want them to, but when it comes to conferences etc they wear it.
But after they get married i think their going to wear it, they've been looking for an excuse to wear it :p

they remind me of me..

lol.. I know sisters like that too..

elefantebianco
16-04-06, 12:29 AM
hmm i dont know, i think the reason why some feel that once its on, its on is so people dont misuse the niqaab.
Personally i am on the opinion it is not wajib but VERY highly recommended and my advice to any sister wishing to wear it would be to try it our and see what life is behind the veil @). :alhumdull all sisters that take my advice end up wearing it full time :p

I chose to wear it because i like it, and it brings me closer to Allah. Also at uni/college/work i am different from everyone, even those forced hijaabi muslims. Non muslims auto know that i am a different muslim compared to the others and i am approached by non muslims when they have an interest in Islam.
Niqaab is just me even my msn name is Niqaabi and even some of the da'ees know me as Niqaabi :embar:
:alhumdull i love the niqaab!

Thats really kool masha'Allah may Allah keep you close to him and protect you from the punishment of the grave and the fire...and shower u with mercy and forgivenes..thats brill that ur an inspiration to others... i think if its permissable...i wud try it out...bt i dunno...if unis accept u with it..and what if ur doin a practicle course....aaah...its so confusing...but it seems amazing...for you wud be like a true pearl....protected and completly hidden....

Niqaabi
16-04-06, 12:31 AM
LOL pearl, i so love that word :rolleyes:

hmmm apart from imperial i think all other unis are ok with it. QM's has loads of niqaabis!

Ameen to the duah!

elefantebianco
16-04-06, 12:35 AM
LOL pearl, i so love that word :rolleyes:

hmmm apart from imperial i think all other unis are ok with it. QM's has loads of niqaabis!

Ameen to the duah!

Seriously...omg this is so scary....its like i cnt make excuses...i dunno...part of me wnts to part of me wnts a trial..part of me is like are u flippin mad....ur whole fam will flipp....i mean my muslim fam...will flip about the 3baya they will kill me bout the niqab...and my non-muslim fam...lets not go there..they wud report me as a flippin terrorist...omg i think i need a book on the niqab loool....

yeah Lu'Lu such a beautiful word in arabic too....

Niqaabi
16-04-06, 12:39 AM
hmm well sis depending on what opinion you take on the niqaab i always give the advice the shuyukh have given when the opinion is the niqaab is not wajib and thats:

If the sisters family are against the niqaab and it is more of a fitnah for her to wear this, as in it will result in breaking of the family ties etc then it is best for her not to wear it. She should make duah and explain to her parents the reason behind it etc.

This is just for niqaab, not for jilbab or hijaab as jilbab and hijaab are fard and there is no obedience to the creation when there is disobdience to the Creator. Its sad cos i see a lot of sisters who say "my parents dont like the hijaab/jibab" and dont wear it.

elefantebianco
16-04-06, 08:56 AM
hmm well sis depending on what opinion you take on the niqaab i always give the advice the shuyukh have given when the opinion is the niqaab is not wajib and thats:

If the sisters family are against the niqaab and it is more of a fitnah for her to wear this, as in it will result in breaking of the family ties etc then it is best for her not to wear it. She should make duah and explain to her parents the reason behind it etc.

This is just for niqaab, not for jilbab or hijaab as jilbab and hijaab are fard and there is no obedience to the creation when there is disobdience to the Creator. Its sad cos i see a lot of sisters who say "my parents dont like the hijaab/jibab" and dont wear it.

Jazaki Allahu khairan...for all ur advice...

.: Anna :.
16-04-06, 09:34 AM
LOL pearl, i so love that word :rolleyes:

hmmm apart from imperial i think all other unis are ok with it. QM's has loads of niqaabis!

Ameen to the duah!even imperial it hasnt been tested in practise if they would make any fuss over this or not.

TEH
16-04-06, 10:55 AM
Yeah, and Imperial may 'allow' it in certain situations...dummies..

Im gonna force my wife to wear Niqaab, but like a 'dumb' old paki, Im not gonna tell her this before we get married, Im gonna tell her afterwards, and if she says no, Im gonna shoot her with Miswaks, using my Miswak Bow...

:eek:

janathi
16-04-06, 11:01 AM
Yeah, and Imperial may 'allow' it in certain situations...dummies..

Im gonna force my wife to wear Niqaab, but like a 'dumb' old paki, Im not gonna tell her this before we get married, Im gonna tell her afterwards, and if she says no, Im gonna shoot her with Miswaks, using my Miswak Bow...

:eek:

:salams

:eek: ..your scaring me Akhi! :( are u ok?

:wswrwb:

PaGaL~LaDo0
16-04-06, 11:07 AM
:salams

:eek: ..your scaring me Akhi! :( are u ok?

:wswrwb:


lo0o00o0ol :rofl1: @):hidban:

janathi
16-04-06, 11:12 AM
lo0o00o0ol :rofl1: @):hidban:

:salams

:p

:wswrwb:

TEH
16-04-06, 11:12 AM
AHEM AHEM COUGH COUGH, Im sorry about that, my cultural side just took over for a second there...

Oh and the whole Miswak bow thing, it is all fake...I dont really have one, but hey, it sounds cool right?

:D

PaGaL~LaDo0
16-04-06, 11:43 AM
c0rze u dnt :p :D

janathi
16-04-06, 12:09 PM
c0rze u dnt :p :D

:salams

...:p...loOoOol Akhi you are supposed to own a miswak! don't tell me your not practicing Sunnah! :nono:

:wswrwb:

TEH
16-04-06, 12:17 PM
Yeah to brush your teeth with, not to use it by chucking it at your wife..

:D

janathi
16-04-06, 12:18 PM
Yeah to brush your teeth with, not to use it by chucking it at your wife..

:D

:salams

Masha'Allah Akhi! :up: more of that is what we like to hear! :p

:wswrwb:

Mr_Jailer
16-04-06, 12:43 PM
:salams

:eek: ..your scaring me Akhi! :( are u ok?

:wswrwb:

Are you the one he's referin' to...

Hayaa
16-04-06, 12:55 PM
Are you the one he's referin' to...:eek3: :smack: she's not :nono:

TEH
16-04-06, 12:59 PM
Are you the one he's referin' to...

Oh dear... :rubeyes:

ur_yusra
16-04-06, 01:08 PM
The topic is not women and miswaaks.. and how to beat them with the aforementioned..

It was actually about niqaabs.. :rolleyes:

Unless your saying you would beat them with a miswaak if they refused to wear it.. :eek:

janathi
16-04-06, 01:21 PM
:salams

Are you the one he's referin' to...

huh!? :rubeyes: no Akhi ..


Unless your saying you would beat them with a miswaak if they refused to wear it.. :eek:


..lol ..thats what Akhi TEH said he would do :nervous: , but said sorry as it was apparently his cultural side that took over! :rolleyes: :p ..

I apologise sis, this is all my fault , :smack: I should have just let you deal with Akhi TEH and his comment! :torture:

Talk about being in the wrong place at the wrong time! :rolleyes: :embar:
:wswrwb:

TEH
16-04-06, 01:30 PM
Yeah, I think the whole miswak thing is just mean, Ile just feed her to my fishes if she doesnt listen to me... :hidban:

WOOPS, THERE IT GOES AGAIN... :rolleyes:

janathi
16-04-06, 01:32 PM
Yeah, I think the whole miswak thing is just mean, Ile just feed her to my fishes if she doesnt listen to me... :hidban:

WOOPS, THERE IT GOES AGAIN... :rolleyes:

:salams

I'm not saying a word!! ...:rolleyes: sis ur yusra can give you some nice compliments ;)

:wswrwb:

ur_yusra
16-04-06, 01:34 PM
Yeah, I think the whole miswak thing is just mean, Ile just feed her to my fishes if she doesnt listen to me... :hidban:

WOOPS, THERE IT GOES AGAIN... :rolleyes:

Have you been eating chinese again..

TEH
16-04-06, 01:39 PM
Naww I had Biryani, lots and lots of it, STUPID COW DIDNT EVEN MAKE IT PROPER..., ahem, wow, this is really bad isnt it, I cant keep my opinions to myself..

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO, I HAVE MPD...

:eek:

Niqaabi
16-04-06, 01:56 PM
The topic is not women and miswaaks.. and how to beat them with the aforementioned..

It was actually about niqaabs.. :rolleyes:

Unless your saying you would beat them with a miswaak if they refused to wear it.. :eek:
:rotfl: :there:

So sis whats your final decision? If he asks you to wear it are you or would you strangle him with it instead? :shock:

ur_yusra
16-04-06, 02:54 PM
:rotfl: :there:

So sis whats your final decision?If he asks you to wear it are you or would you strangle him with it instead? :shock:

lol.. nice one never thought of that..

I would wear it inshaAllah.. and with pleasure..

But i'l keep the strangling idea handy for when he refuses to do any housework..;)

Quest
16-04-06, 09:00 PM
, you'd be surprised at the amount of hijaabis that still get chirpsed.

surprised ? not at all, sometimes it was so extreme i would think is this nicaab serving its purpose lol

getting back on the topic, i miss wearing the nicab, the reasons for taking it off vary, but when married inshahallah i will defintely put it back on and this time permanently.

theres something about the nicab which is hard to explain, when i wear it my behaviour is great and my iman is high, compared to when i have a hijab or jilbaab on.

so yes i would wear it (i dont think my future husband would have to ask) as its something i want.

but say i didnt and he did, i dont see why a sister has to rebell in my opinion those that do often just find it hard to articulate their views.

be firm and give him your reasons, you will find men take information well when spoken to respectfully and with wisdom. instead of disputing they will fear losing loool and make it look as though they allowed u to win (ahem)

on a serious level it takes as much energy rebelling as it does making one understand so why not choose the latter?


oh and some members are saying my wife this or my husband that, are u married or are u speaking in the future sense? basically sumarising (if my future wife ) and just saying MY WIFE or my husband etc

am just curious its not important.

Ninjaress
17-04-06, 12:10 AM
Asalamualykum warhmatulahi wabarakathu

It is the beauty from the face where passions are stirred up and the lusts are excited. The woman is bound to veil her hair, face, bosom, palms and feet according to the teachings of Islam.

Veiling is a protection for Muslim woman against the behaviour of the wicked.

It gives her an honoured position in the society.

It acts as a barrier between men and women to keep them away from sins.

It is a means for observing chastity of woman.

It awakens the fear of Allah in the heart of man and woman and saves them from falling into evil.

It teaches man to respect the veiled woman.

Alhamdulilah! I wear a niqqab (hence the username LOL) and a burka to college and ever since i've worn one i've always felt near to Allah s.w.a! It makes you feel sooo safe!

walakumasalaam warhmatulahi wabarakathu

K@M
17-04-06, 12:31 AM
:salams,

From my point of view, personally, yes I would like my wife to wear a niqab if she doesn't do so already, but I would ask more specifically in certain times it is more essential than others. i.e if we are going to go to talks together (which I plan to do a lot inshaAllah) and I know someone I know is going to be there (which is pretty much every talk :rolleyes:), then I would ask her kindly if she wouldnt mind wearing it.

Reason being, it will be more fitnah if my mates (cos I plan to get married young inshaAllah) see me with my wife (they will get jelous :p) wearing a hijab rather than a niqaab. With a niqaab it will make it that much easier for them, plus I dont want them looking, might give her the evil eye (mashaAllah), plus shes all mine :evilb:

However, if we like on holiday or whatever and she doesnt already wear it, I wouldnt really mind to be honest, up to her. I wouldnt enforce it though, just ask, and if no, then no, khalas.However, if she feels she wants to wear it as it will boost her iman, then go ahead, I'll only encourage her.

And she can't pull the you follow the sunnah card on me, cos alhamdulilah I do wear thawb, alhamdulilah I do wear trousers above ankle and alhamdulilah I do have a beard, so no excuses nerner. plus if I wear thawb and she wears niqaab, it will be just :inlove:

Oh yea Quest, this is a future tense production by K@M for whover his wife is inshaAllah when he gets married. Its long to write our future everytime plsu by writing my wife, makes me feel better lol.

Niqaabi
17-04-06, 12:48 AM
Asalamualykum warhmatulahi wabarakathu

It is the beauty from the face where passions are stirred up and the lusts are excited. The woman is bound to veil her hair, face, bosom, palms and feet according to the teachings of Islam.

Veiling is a protection for Muslim woman against the behaviour of the wicked.

It gives her an honoured position in the society.

It acts as a barrier between men and women to keep them away from sins.

It is a means for observing chastity of woman.

It awakens the fear of Allah in the heart of man and woman and saves them from falling into evil.

It teaches man to respect the veiled woman.

Alhamdulilah! I wear a niqqab (hence the username LOL) and a burka to college and ever since i've worn one i've always felt near to Allah s.w.a! It makes you feel sooo safe!

walakumasalaam warhmatulahi wabarakathu
MashaAllah thats a lovely way to put it :up:

I wear a niqaab to, hence the username @)

Ninjaress
17-04-06, 12:52 AM
MashaAllah thats a lovely way to put it :up:

I wear a niqaab to, hence the username @)

Alhamdulilah ukhti! That's great news! May Allah s.w.a increase our imans and help us overcome any fitna insha Allah! :up:

Niqaabi
17-04-06, 12:57 AM
Alhamdulilah ukhti! That's great news! May Allah s.w.a increase our imans and help us overcome any fitna insha Allah! :up:
Ameen! :D And everyone elses too! :meow: meow!

MalikOne™
17-04-06, 02:31 AM
oh and some members are saying my wife this or my husband that, are u married or are u speaking in the future sense? basically sumarising (if my future wife ) and just saying MY WIFE or my husband etc
.

Future sense- the term "my wife" just sounds alot cooler than "if my future wife" :D

Quest
17-04-06, 02:48 AM
Malik and K&M so one says it sounds cooler the other says he feels better lol i reconcile u both as decievers :rolleyes: just playing.

i guess am just a technical lady but yes i see where you are coming from

K&M if you dont mind me asking bro, are you somali ?

peace

Al-Irhaab
17-04-06, 09:53 AM
Malik and K&M so one says it sounds cooler the other says he feels better lol i reconcile u both as decievers :rolleyes: just playing.

i guess am just a technical lady but yes i see where you are coming from

K&M if you dont mind me asking bro, are you somali ?

peace

he he he

now u didnt go there.....

dont worry they just wee lil babies these 2 far too young to be married... :rolleyes:

janathi
17-04-06, 10:10 AM
:salams

Malik and K&M so one says it sounds cooler the other says he feels better lol i reconcile u both as decievers :rolleyes: just playing.

i guess am just a technical lady but yes i see where you are coming from

K&M if you dont mind me asking bro, are you somali ?

peace
:rotfl: :embar:

Asalamualykum warhmatulahi wabarakathu

It is the beauty from the face where passions are stirred up and the lusts are excited. The woman is bound to veil her hair, face, bosom, palms and feet according to the teachings of Islam.

Veiling is a protection for Muslim woman against the behaviour of the wicked.

It gives her an honoured position in the society.

It acts as a barrier between men and women to keep them away from sins.

It is a means for observing chastity of woman.

It awakens the fear of Allah in the heart of man and woman and saves them from falling into evil.

It teaches man to respect the veiled woman.

Alhamdulilah! I wear a niqqab (hence the username LOL) and a burka to college and ever since i've worn one i've always felt near to Allah s.w.a! It makes you feel sooo safe!

walakumasalaam warhmatulahi wabarakathu


:love: :inlove:


Alhamdulilah ukhti! That's great news! May Allah s.w.a increase our imans and help us overcome any fitna insha Allah! :up:



Ameen !~ just beautiful sis! :love: :inlove: :love:


:wswrwb:

1 ummah
17-04-06, 10:19 AM
Asalamualykum warhmatulahi wabarakathu

It is the beauty from the face where passions are stirred up and the lusts are excited. The woman is bound to veil her hair, face, bosom, palms and feet according to the teachings of Islam.

Veiling is a protection for Muslim woman against the behaviour of the wicked.

It gives her an honoured position in the society.

It acts as a barrier between men and women to keep them away from sins.

It is a means for observing chastity of woman.

It awakens the fear of Allah in the heart of man and woman and saves them from falling into evil.

It teaches man to respect the veiled woman.

Alhamdulilah! I wear a niqqab (hence the username LOL) and a burka to college and ever since i've worn one i've always felt near to Allah s.w.a! It makes you feel sooo safe!

walakumasalaam warhmatulahi wabarakathu

very well said MashaAllah :inlove:

Furqan
17-04-06, 12:14 PM
Niqaabi all the way...

Why.. Coz its what is understood from Quran and Ahadith ... and well argued over...

Unique Muslimah
17-04-06, 01:33 PM
Malik and K&M so one says it sounds cooler the other says he feels better lol i reconcile u both as decievers :rolleyes: just playing.

i guess am just a technical lady but yes i see where you are coming from

K&M if you dont mind me asking bro, are you somali ?

peace

:rotfl:

Niqaabi
17-04-06, 01:40 PM
Niqaabi all the way...All the way where? to the corner? I dont like it there its damp and smelly :crying:

Furqan
17-04-06, 01:43 PM
:rolleyes:

If you wanted to be in a corner why didn't you say so before? :p

Niqaabi
17-04-06, 01:46 PM
:rolleyes:

If you wanted to be in a corner why didn't you say so before? :p
i dont want to be in the corner, please dont send me there :(

Ok for bros, what if your wife wanted you to wear thawb at all times? To work, out shopping, in the park, at weddings etc.
Would you, or can you not live without the jeans and shirt?

ur_yusra
17-04-06, 01:52 PM
i dont want to be in the corner, please dont send me there :(

Ok for bros, what if your wife wanted you to wear thawb at all times? To work, out shopping, in the park, at weddings etc.
Would you, or can you not live without the jeans and shirt?

you won't believe this niqaabi..

some brothers say wearing the thawb is dangerous for them..

They can't beat someone up in self-defense if they've got it on.. :rolleyes:

Furqan
17-04-06, 02:01 PM
Man.. Thowb is lovely.. As long as she washes it every time it gets dirty.. (which is quite often for a White one)

There's a way to pick up the thowb and wrap it around your waist for extracurricular activies.. :D

ur_yusra
17-04-06, 02:03 PM
Man.. Thowb is lovely.. As long as she washes it every time it gets dirty.. (which is quite often for a White one)

There's a way to pick up the thowb and wrap it around your waist for extracurricular activies.. :D

Why can't you wash it.. :rolleyes:

Furqan
17-04-06, 02:09 PM
Because the wife is the one who's forcing me to wear it.. She has to bear the consequences...

Unique Muslimah
17-04-06, 02:10 PM
Why can't you wash it.. :rolleyes:
My point exactly..:rolleyes:Furqan u shouldnt be wearing a thawb for your WIFE you should be doing it because it's sunnah and to InshaAllah please Allah swt,there is no one else you need to please but Him

ur_yusra
17-04-06, 02:12 PM
Because the wife is the one who's forcing me to wear it.. She has to bear the consequences...

forcing you is she..

so when you make her wear nice clothes I take it you'll be washing them..

Furqan
17-04-06, 02:17 PM
Its her choice... I wouldn't force her.. As long as they're decent... they're fine with me... And no.. I won't be washing...

Unless of course at times necessary... I might use the washing machine.. only on the condition that I won't hear any moans of colors mixing and what not...

Furqan
17-04-06, 02:25 PM
My point exactly..:rolleyes: Furqan u shouldnt be wearing a thawb for your WIFE you should be doing it because it's sunnah and to InshaAllah please Allah swt,there is no one else you need to please but HimIt is sunnah.. but not Sunnah Muakkadah.. :D

I wear it when I feel like it.. Not to work yet though... :banbear:

MMS
17-04-06, 02:28 PM
furqi get married first dont get ahead of urself :outta:

Furqan
17-04-06, 02:30 PM
furqi get married first dont get ahead of urself :outta:Haha.. Why u running away.. :p

Mom's on the lookout for several years now... :D :up:

janathi
17-04-06, 02:39 PM
you won't believe this niqaabi..

some brothers say wearing the thawb is dangerous for them..

They can't beat someone up in self-defense if they've got it on.. :rolleyes:

:salams

:rubeyes: I didn't know brother's like that existed! :p

:wswrwb:

Furqan
17-04-06, 02:42 PM
:salams

:rubeyes: I didn't know brother's like that existed! :p

:wswrwb::wswrwb:

Those are the ones who don't know the secret technique...

Newbies.. :p

janathi
17-04-06, 02:44 PM
:wswrwb:

Those are the ones who don't know the secret technique...

Newbies.. :p

:salams

huh? ...:scratch:I'm lost what technique?? :p

:wswrwb:

ur_yusra
17-04-06, 02:45 PM
:wswrwb:

Those are the ones who don't know the secret technique...

Newbies.. :p

Furqaan can you post a thread about this on the brothers forum then.. teach them the technique to avoid these lame excuses being used in the future..

Furqan
17-04-06, 02:47 PM
:salams

huh? ...:scratch:I'm lost what technique?? :p

:wswrwb:I'll make a tutorial about it.. :p

You pick up the thowb from the bottom.. holding two specific places from the bottom... Move your right hand towards the left and vice versa.. fasten both ends.. and wala.. you got the secret technique...

Btw, :wswrwb:

Furqan
17-04-06, 02:48 PM
Furqaan can you post a thread about this on the brothers forum then.. teach them the technique to avoid these lame excuses being used in the future..I posted in public.. so you can do dawah to those brothers.. :p :rolleyes:

janathi
17-04-06, 02:56 PM
I'll make a tutorial about it.. :p

You pick up the thowb from the bottom.. holding two specific places from the bottom... Move your right hand towards the left and vice versa.. fasten both ends.. and wala.. you got the secret technique...

Btw, :wswrwb:

:salams

lol :inlove: Masha'Allah Akhi but I thought thats the way everyone does it so how is it a secret? :rolleyes: @) :p

:wswrwb:

MMS
17-04-06, 02:58 PM
Haha.. Why u running away.. :p

Mom's on the lookout for several years now... :D :up:

aww bechara

dont give up there is still hope :D

elefantebianco
17-04-06, 03:44 PM
:salams,

From my point of view, personally, yes I would like my wife to wear a niqab if she doesn't do so already, but I would ask more specifically in certain times it is more essential than others. i.e if we are going to go to talks together (which I plan to do a lot inshaAllah) and I know someone I know is going to be there (which is pretty much every talk :rolleyes:), then I would ask her kindly if she wouldnt mind wearing it.

Reason being, it will be more fitnah if my mates (cos I plan to get married young inshaAllah) see me with my wife (they will get jelous :p) wearing a hijab rather than a niqaab. With a niqaab it will make it that much easier for them, plus I dont want them looking, might give her the evil eye (mashaAllah), plus shes all mine :evilb:

However, if we like on holiday or whatever and she doesnt already wear it, I wouldnt really mind to be honest, up to her. I wouldnt enforce it though, just ask, and if no, then no, khalas.However, if she feels she wants to wear it as it will boost her iman, then go ahead, I'll only encourage her.

And she can't pull the you follow the sunnah card on me, cos alhamdulilah I do wear thawb, alhamdulilah I do wear trousers above ankle and alhamdulilah I do have a beard, so no excuses nerner. plus if I wear thawb and she wears niqaab, it will be just :inlove:

Oh yea Quest, this is a future tense production by K@M for whover his wife is inshaAllah when he gets married. Its long to write our future everytime plsu by writing my wife, makes me feel better lol.
[snip snip] i agree with the tlks thing....bt the ALL MINE hmm i think i have issues i hate it wen guys say that...its not like she is a chocolate bar...i think its the girls choice..bt erm yeah...yesterday in islamic relief the fitnah was like woow....i think its def best to wear niqab plus then i cant wooo...and be loud...lool...well i shudnt anyway but a niqab wud stop me for def....

insha'Allah....Allah protects both u and ur wife to be....from the evil eye and any harm....

MalikOne™
17-04-06, 09:45 PM
Id only really want her to wear it (if she wants to) in public- if i was wid my boys I wudnt mind if she wore hijab because u kno they'd have enuf respect as in not to stare at her because they know it'd vex me. Its when im around weirdos, kafirs and random people that worries me.

Ibn Khattab
17-04-06, 09:55 PM
Id only really want her to wear it (if she wants to) in public- if i was wid my boys I wudnt mind if she wore hijab because u kno they'd have enuf respect as in not to stare at her because they know it'd vex me. Its when im around weirdos, kafirs and random people that worries me.

cudnt have put it better:up:

K@M
17-04-06, 09:55 PM
[snip snip] i agree with the tlks thing....bt the ALL MINE hmm i think i have issues i hate it wen guys say that...its not like she is a chocolate bar...i think its the girls choice..bt erm yeah...yesterday in islamic relief the fitnah was like woow....i think its def best to wear niqab plus then i cant wooo...and be loud...lool...well i shudnt anyway but a niqab wud stop me for def....

insha'Allah....Allah protects both u and ur wife to be....from the evil eye and any harm....

snip snip? Did I get sworn at? :(

And that all mine comment was nothing to do with the niqaab issue I was just getting a bit carried away :embar: but yea, its her choice obv., not going to make big issue out of it and wouldnt be annoyed if she said no.

And would I wear a thawb if asked all the time? Yes I would as long as she was with me, what would be the point of me wearing it for her if she doesnt' even see me.

Ameen @ the dua :)

K@M
17-04-06, 10:14 PM
K@M if you dont mind me asking bro, are you somali ?

:scratch:

...

:rotfl:

And you call yourself a matchmaker :rolleyes:*



DISCLAIMER: Please do not try to matchmake me (I know it isnt your intention) but just saying in case and I'm not somali.:)

Niqaabi
18-04-06, 12:08 AM
forcing you is she..

so when you make her wear nice clothes I take it you'll be washing them..
Lol from the wise words of Pagal ladoo, that reply was tik tik boomin :p

I think brothers look much better when they wear thawb with beard then wearing western clothes. I know the thawb isnt fardh on them but it is how the messenger :saw: dressed and i think brothers should follow this example.

And as for the white ones getting dirty you can always buy black ones.

Dont bother buying invisible thawbs, a guy at the market sold me an invisible thawb for £50 for my imaginary hubby and when i got home it wasnt in the bag :mad::( i dno i where i left it @)

Furqan
18-04-06, 05:42 AM