halal meats

[Unregisteredd]

if i can't find halal or kosher meat, is it ok to say in the name of Allah, or something along those lines, before eating. i read this somewhere, but i'm not sure where so i thought i would check

[BHAI]

No...you Cannot



Im Sure You Can Buy Live Chickens And Make Them Halal By Saying Bismillahiallahuakhbar,while Cutting The Throat:)

Pm Me If You Wish,where Are You Located

[Abu.Bakr]

If you live in a Jewish or Christian country, you can eat from their meat unless you KNOW that Allah's name wasn't mentioned when the animal was slaughtered.

[.: Anna :.]

If you live in a Jewish or Christian country, you can eat from their meat unless you KNOW that Allah's name wasn't mentioned when the animal was slaughtered.Brother why don't we keep it realistic. We do all know that they don't mention the name of Allah when slaughtering meat here, the meat they sell in super market, macdonalds etc... you go in the factory u will see the animals slaughtered and no bismillah. We cant really claim that we dnt know if they say it or not.... we do know

[Abu.Bakr]

Jazakallahu khair for your reply ikhti.

I would like to post a fatwa with daleel InshaAllah -

Question :

Is it permissible to eat the chicken and meat that are available in restaurants, when I do not know whether they were slaughtered according to Islamic sharee’ah or not?.


Answer :

Praise be to Allaah.

It was proven in Saheeh al-Bukhaari from ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) that some people came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said: “Some people bring us meat and we do not know whether they mentioned the name of Allaah over it or not.” He said: “Say the name of Allaah yourselves then eat.” I said: They (the people who brought the meat) were new in Islam and they were not sure whether they said the name of Allaah (when slaughtering the meat) or not. So he said: Say the name of Allaah yourself and eat. So it is permissible to eat even if we do not know whether the name of Allaah has been pronounced over the meat or not. Similarly it is permissible to eat even if we do not know whether it was slaughtered in the proper manner or not, because if the action was done by the appropriate people, the basic principle is that it is valid unless there is evidence to the contrary. If there comes to us meat that has been slaughtered by a Muslim, a Jew or a Christian, then we do not ask about it and we do not say, “How was it slaughtered?” or “Was the name of Allaah mentioned over it or not?” It is halaal so long as there is no proof that it is haraam. This is a way in which Allaah has made things easy for us. Otherwise we would have a problem every time some meat was offered to us, and we would have to ask, “Who slaughtered it? Does he pray or not? Did he say the name of Allaah over it or not? Did the blood flow or not?” and so on. But by the grace of Allaah, if an action is done by the appropriate people, then the basic principle is that it is sound and valid unless there is evidence to the contrary.

See As’ilat al-Baab il-Maftooh, vol. 1, p. 77, by Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him). (www.islam-qa.com) (http://www.islam-qa.com)/)

http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=en...QR=40216&dgn=4 (http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=40216&dgn=4)

[Abu.Bakr]

You can eat in general, but you are not allowed to question without clear proof. There is another hadith where Umar, may Allah be pleased with him, banned a sahaba from asking a Christian about there meat.

My point here ikhti is that Allah has made it halal for us. About this there is no doubt. What people do doubt is whether the US or UK or even Australia are classified as "Christian of Jewish" countries. By default, they swear by the bible in court so that would strongly suggest they are Christian.

We should not make haram what Allah has made halal, Allah is not here to make things hard on us.

Allah subhana wa ta3ala says in the Quran -

"O you who believe! Make not unlawful the Taiyibât (all that is good as regards foods, things, deeds, beliefs, persons, etc.) which Allâh has made lawful to you, and transgress not. Verily, Allâh does not like the transgressors." [Surah al-Maidah 5:87]

Believe me ihkti, I do understand your concern but if this is what Allah has commanded than walhamdulillah - Indeed Allah knows best.

Before anyone comments, please have a read of this also InshaAllah -

http://63.175.194.25/index.php?cs=prn&ln=eng&QR=103&dgn=3&dgn=2

If I have said anything wrong, than may Allah forgive me.

[Umm Hurairah]

By the way if the meat is kosher that doesn't mean it's halaal even though halaal meat is kosher.

[Umm Hurairah]

By the way meat that is kosher is not halaal even though halaal meat is kosher.

[Abu.Bakr]

Meat from Jews and Christians is halaal -

Made lawful to you this day are At­Tayyibât [all kinds of Halâl (lawful) foods, which Allâh has made lawful (meat of slaughtered eatable animals, etc., milk products, fats, vegetables and fruits, etc.). The food (slaughtered cattle, eatable animals, etc.) of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) is lawful to you and yours is lawful to them. (Lawful to you in marriage) are chaste women from the believers and chaste women from those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) before your time, when you have given their due Mahr (bridal money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage), desiring chastity (i.e. taking them in legal wedlock) not committing illegal sexual intercourse, nor taking them as girl-friends. And whosoever disbelieves in the Oneness of Allâh and in all the other Articles of Faith Al­Qadar (Divine Preordainments)], then fruitless is his work, and in the Hereafter he will be among the losers.

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Sis, please read my previous 2 posts

[seven]

the ahlul kitab today are not the same as they were in the past.

many jews now consider wine as "kosher" ...that does not mean wine is halaal for muslims.

christian now say pork is not forbidden... that does not make pork halaal for us.

there are certain pre-conditions before any meat is halaal:


The Qur'an forbids the following:

1- Carrion

2- Blood

3- Swine

4- Meet slaughtered as an offering to one other than Allah (i.e.
slaughtered in another's name, like in the name of "Jesus"or an
idol)

5- Animals that die from estrangulation (who die before being
properly slaughtered)

6 - What has been stricken with a heavy object like a rock, stick,
bullet, etc. until it died

7- What dies from a headlong fall (before being properly
slaughtered)

8- What dies from being rammed by another animal

9- What a predatory animal has killed and eaten from

[see Surat Al-Ma'ida: 3-5]

[Al-ghurabah]

brother aby bakr.. most people in uk are not christians although officially its christian country. we cannot eat from their meat as they dont say name of allh they stunn the meat first.. in the last few years there have been issue with halal meat from muslim shops forget non muslims..

how can you eat meat that was stunned. christians and jews these dasy are so diffrent from before..
also i only get meat from 1shop in my town wehre we have over 30 halal meat shops.. as others get it from slaughter houses which do not do it properly.. they play tapes.. if you want to find out genuine halal meat shops. look on the halal monitoring comite website for authorised shops..
http://www.halalmc.co.uk/

[Al-ghurabah]

salam. in the uk you have halal shops why would you want to eat non halal when you have acess to halal meat. plus can you eat from stunned meat. christians from today are diffrent from ahl ul khitab from then..

even muslim shops dont have proper halal meat. recentkly the slaughter houses were investigated.. and found most play a tape saying allah u akbar and have kuffar stunning animals.. they say it takes too long..
we only get meat from 1 shop in our town. when we have over 20-30 halal meat shops.
you can find out if you have a local halal shop near you which is authorised halal by hmc(halal monitoring comitee)http://www.halalmc.co.uk/

check the website inshallah

[Na'eemah]

I wouldnt eat meat if it wasnt halal or kosher :S

[Abu.Bakr]

the ahlul kitab today are not the same as they were in the past.

many jews now consider wine as "kosher" ...that does not mean wine is halaal for muslims.

christian now say pork is not forbidden... that does not make pork halaal for us.
What's the difference between ahlul kitaab of the past and now? They were kuffaar than and they are kuffar today. As for pork and wine, they will never be allowed in Islam. When I say meat is halaal, I mean cow, lamb, etc.

brother aby bakr.. most people in uk are not christians although officially its christian country. we cannot eat from their meat as they dont say name of allh they stunn the meat first.. in the last few years there have been issue with halal meat from muslim shops forget non muslims..
Akhi, whether UK is a Christian country or not is a different issue. What I'm saying here is that you can eat from the meat of the Christians and Jews and are not allowed to ask them if the name of Allah was mentioned or not. This is the sunnah of the prophet sallallahu 3alayhi wassallam and this is what Umar ibn Khattab radiyallahu 3unhu did. It becomes haraam for you when you know for a fact Allah's name hasn't been mentioned. I know this is hard for a lot of people to digest, but the rulings are in my above posts alongside daleel.

As I have posted before -

Made lawful to you this day are At­Tayyibât [all kinds of Halâl (lawful) foods, which Allâh has made lawful (meat of slaughtered eatable animals, etc., milk products, fats, vegetables and fruits, etc.). The food (slaughtered cattle, eatable animals, etc.) of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) is lawful to you and yours is lawful to them. (Lawful to you in marriage) are chaste women from the believers and chaste women from those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) before your time, when you have given their due Mahr (bridal money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage), desiring chastity (i.e. taking them in legal wedlock) not committing illegal sexual intercourse, nor taking them as girl-friends. And whosoever disbelieves in the Oneness of Allâh and in all the other Articles of Faith Al­Qadar (Divine Preordainments)], then fruitless is his work, and in the Hereafter he will be among the losers.

And also -

"O you who believe! Make not unlawful the Taiyibât (all that is good as regards foods, things, deeds, beliefs, persons, etc.) which Allâh has made lawful to you, and transgress not. Verily, Allâh does not like the transgressors." [Surah al-Maidah 5:87]

One of the reasons the Jews are cursed is because of all the questions they kept asking in regards to the baqarah. Allah has sent the prophet sallallahu 3alayhi wassallam as a guidance to mankind and if he forbade asking the christian or jew about the meat, than so should we.

I must point out, I don't eat meat here in Australia that is not from a Muslim because I would prefer my money to go to the Muslimeen, but if I am desperate and no other food is around, I will eat.

[seven]

What's the difference between ahlul kitaab of the past and now?
there are MANY difference in the Ahlul kitab of the past with jews/xtians today. just look at how much their religion has changed over the centuries.

many ulama do not consider the jews/xtians of today as ahlul kitab because of this.

As for pork and wine, they will never be allowed in Islam. When I say meat is halaal, I mean cow, lamb, etc.
the xtians consider pork as "halaal" for them... the jews consider wine as "halaal" for them... so to have a blanket statement like "it's ok to eat the foods of xtians and jews" is incorrect.

if they meet the preconditions that i posted earlier then yes, it's ok to eat.

[Al-ghurabah]

What's the difference between ahlul kitaab of the past and now? They were kuffaar than and they are kuffar today. As for pork and wine, they will never be allowed in Islam. When I say meat is halaal, I mean cow, lamb, etc.


Akhi, whether UK is a Christian country or not is a different issue. What I'm saying here is that you can eat from the meat of the Christians and Jews and are not allowed to ask them if the name of Allah was mentioned or not. This is the sunnah of the prophet sallallahu 3alayhi wassallam and this is what Umar ibn Khattab radiyallahu 3unhu did. It becomes haraam for you when you know for a fact Allah's name hasn't been mentioned. I know this is hard for a lot of people to digest, but the rulings are in my above posts alongside daleel.

As I have posted before -

Made lawful to you this day are At­Tayyibât [all kinds of Halâl (lawful) foods, which Allâh has made lawful (meat of slaughtered eatable animals, etc., milk products, fats, vegetables and fruits, etc.). The food (slaughtered cattle, eatable animals, etc.) of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) is lawful to you and yours is lawful to them. (Lawful to you in marriage) are chaste women from the believers and chaste women from those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) before your time, when you have given their due Mahr (bridal money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage), desiring chastity (i.e. taking them in legal wedlock) not committing illegal sexual intercourse, nor taking them as girl-friends. And whosoever disbelieves in the Oneness of Allâh and in all the other Articles of Faith Al­Qadar (Divine Preordainments)], then fruitless is his work, and in the Hereafter he will be among the losers.

And also -

"O you who believe! Make not unlawful the Taiyibât (all that is good as regards foods, things, deeds, beliefs, persons, etc.) which Allâh has made lawful to you, and transgress not. Verily, Allâh does not like the transgressors." [Surah al-Maidah 5:87]

One of the reasons the Jews are cursed is because of all the questions they kept asking in regards to the baqarah. Allah has sent the prophet sallallahu 3alayhi wassallam as a guidance to mankind and if he forbade asking the christian or jew about the meat, than so should we.

I must point out, I don't eat meat here in Australia that is not from a Muslim because I would prefer my money to go to the Muslimeen, but if I am desperate and no other food is around, I will eat.

fact is we know they stunn the meat and they do not mention name of allah.. no kuffar does..
anyway why eat from them when you know there are halal meat available??? makes no sense what so ever..
we have many halal shops here..

[AbuMubarak]

NO WHERE does it say it is FARD to eat meat

you do not HAVE to eat meat

many muslims do not have meat to eat

so why venture into the haram for no reason?

[Al Qadr]

Places like asda and tesco do ready made halaal stuff like kebabs n chicken ect. so need for haraam meat :S :up:

[Irfan GBH]

There's a good point bambino, I should pop down to Asda or Tesco some time.

[Abu.Bakr]

there are MANY difference in the Ahlul kitab of the past with jews/xtians today. just look at how much their religion has changed over the centuries.

many ulama do not consider the jews/xtians of today as ahlul kitab because of this.
Their religion can change all it wants to. Allah permitted it when it was kufr back than and it is kufr today.

the xtians consider pork as "halaal" for them... the jews consider wine as "halaal" for them... so to have a blanket statement like "it's ok to eat the foods of xtians and jews" is incorrect.

if they meet the preconditions that i posted earlier then yes, it's ok to eat.
Now you are being unfair akhi. We all know pork and wine is forbidden, so please do not make it out as if I am permitting it.

fact is we know they stunn the meat and they do not mention name of allah.. no kuffar does..
anyway why eat from them when you know there are halal meat available??? makes no sense what so ever..
we have many halal shops here..
You do not know for a fact that they stun the meat and do not mention God's name. I never said do not eat halaal akhi, I am just saying that this is a possible option. I have not said that you must eat this eat, I am just saying that you shouldn't make haraam what Allah has made halaal for you. If Allah has made it permissable, I don't understand why you guys are arguing with me

[.: Anna :.]

Bro thinking realistically, we do know that info for a fact. They kill the meat in factories, stunning is very wide spread and have u ever heard of them mentioning the name of God in this factories, for the meat?
They simply dont do it. We can claim ignorance about their practises, but to suggest they there is a chance of them mentioning God and slaughtering properly, we are only fooling ourselves

[seven]

Now you are being unfair akhi. We all know pork and wine is forbidden, so please do not make it out as if I am permitting it.
i am not being unfair nor am i trying to make out that you are permitting it.

i simply pointed out the flaw in saying "it's ok to eat the foods of xtians and jews"

we know wine and pork is haraam... like we know carrion and any animal slaughtered in the name other than Allah is haraam.

my point is that there are certain preconditions that any meat (not just that of ahlul kitab) must meet before it can be considered halaal. nowadays the most meat of the jews/xtians do not even meet these preconditions therefore they cannot be considered halaal.

[Abu.Bakr]

Bro thinking realistically, we do know that info for a fact. They kill the meat in factories, stunning is very wide spread and have u ever heard of them mentioning the name of God in this factories, for the meat?
They simply dont do it. We can claim ignorance about their practises, but to suggest they there is a chance of them mentioning God and slaughtering properly, we are only fooling ourselves
I understand everyone's concern, and I found it hard to accept myself until I read the 2 hadiths I mentioned, where Mohammed sallAllahu 3alayhi wassallam told A'isha radiyallahu 3unha to say 'Bismillah' and eat the meat without asking and when Umar ibn Khattab radiyallahu 3unhu forbade the sahaaba from asking the Christian/Jew where the meat is from and said that if the meat is coming from a Christian or a Jew than we do not ask, because if Allah didn't want us to eat from their meat, he wouldn't have mentioned that verse in the Quran.

Brothers and sisters, this is one case where we have a difference of opinion. I have put forth my view with my daleel to support it and you have done the same walhamdulillah. Truly Allah is the best of Judges and Allah knows best what He has permitted and what He has forbidden for His slaves.

I think I will end my posting in this thread InshaAllah, jazakallahu khair

wassalaamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuhu

[Abu.Bakr]

Sorry, I've already gone back on my word. Just one more thing InshaAllah. Think about the wisdom behind Surah al-Maidah verse 5 and verse 87 and ask yourselves why Allah would even have permitted meat from Ahlul Kitaab when He knew how they are and what tayibaat Allah is talking about in verse 87; what tayibaat has Allah made halaal can we possibly make haraam?

Jazakallahu khair, and once again, I understand the difference of opinion and if I am wrong and may Allah forgive me and guide me to siraat al mustaqeen, ameen

wassalaamu alaikum wa rahmatullah

[Al-ghurabah]

Sorry, I've already gone back on my word. Just one more thing InshaAllah. Think about the wisdom behind Surah al-Maidah verse 5 and verse 87 and ask yourselves why Allah would even have permitted meat from Ahlul Kitaab when He knew how they are and what tayibaat Allah is talking about in verse 87; what tayibaat has Allah made halaal can we possibly make haraam?

Jazakallahu khair, and once again, I understand the difference of opinion and if I am wrong and may Allah forgive me and guide me to siraat al mustaqeen, ameen

wassalaamu alaikum wa rahmatullah

abu bakr you are indeed correct the muslims were able to eat meat from the ahl ul khitab(people of the book) as long as it was not slaughtered in any1 name e.g jesus or some idols ..
but fact was people then used to slaughter their meat. when these dasy they dont they have to stunn it by law. the muslims and jews have special religeous permit. which come animal activist tried to over throw last year..
so all the meat in the UK are stunned. not slaughtered. and since we have meat which are halal there is no need for us to eat from them anyway..
meat has to be slaughtered. and canot be in anyones else name other than alalhs.. or no name at all(if slaughtered by non muslims)

[Al Qadr]

There's a good point bambino, I should pop down to Asda or Tesco some time.


its called Tahira ... n they do kebabs n burgers ..mum wnt let me buy them :( and i think taj foods is halaal too :up:

[seven]

to clarify the hadith bro abu.bakr posted:

“It has been narrated from Aaisha (Radhiallaahu Anha) that some persons said to Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam), ‘People bring to us meat. We know not whether the name of Allah Ta’ala has been taken (upon its slaughter) or not? Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) replied, ‘You people say Bismillah and eat it.’ Aaisha (Radhiallaahu Anha) says, ‘the people referred to (in this Hadith) were new Muslims.’ (Bukhari)

It is clear that the slaughterers were Muslims, not disbelievers. This is further elucidated by Imaam Maalik (RA)’s narration (of the same Hadith) where the addition of, ‘this was in the beginning of Islam.’ (Fathul Bari vol.9 pg.792; Qadeemi) is found.

To believe that these people were non-Muslims is in fact tantamount to accusing the noble Sahaaba of Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) of the heinous crime of consuming meat slaughtered by polytheists which is expressly forbidden in the Qur’aan:

‘Forbidden to you is carrion … till … and that slaughtered for other than Allah.’ (Maaidah 3)

The actual meaning of this Hadith, as understood by similar narrations is that one should not entertain unfounded doubts about a Muslim that he would neglect to mention the name of Allah upon his slaughter.

‘This is what is understood by the context of the Hadith since the answer of Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) to the question was, ‘Say Bismillah and eat.’ It is as though they (questioners) were told, ‘That is not your concern, rather what should concern you is to consume it (wholesomely in the Sunnah manner) by saying Bismillah before partaking thereof.’ (Fathul Bari vol.9 pg.793; Qadeemi)

Hafiz ibn Abdul-Barr (RA) has emphasised on this point very clearly:

‘Similarly, the slaughter of the Bedouin Muslims will be permissible (for consumption) since they usually know of the Tasmiya (at the time of slaughter). Ibn Abdul Barr (RA) has concluded, ‘In this Hadith, it is understood that the slaughter of a Muslim should be consumed and he should be regarded as having taken Tasmiyah upon its slaughter (even when one is not certain about this fact) because with regards to a Muslim, one should entertain nothing but good thoughts unless concrete evidence is established to the contrary.’ (Fathul Bari vol.9 pg.793; Qadeemi)

This import is borne out by other narrations of this same Hadith as follows:

‘The narration of Ibn Uyayna (RA) (one of the Huffaaz of Hadith) has the addition, ‘accept their oaths and eat’, i.e. take their word for it that they have taken Tasmiyah upon slaughter (and partake without doubts). (Ibid pg.793)

The narration of Abu Sa’eed:
Imaam Tabrani has recorded the narration of Abu Sa’eed though with a difference in wording that he said, ‘accept their word that they have effected (Shar’ee) slaughter.’ (and consume it without doubt). (Ibid)

The narration of Imaam Tahawi (RA):

Some of the Sahaaba (Radhiallaahu Anhum) questioned Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) that, ‘Some Bedouins bring to us meat, cheese and fat. We know not the condition of their Islam, (i.e. they are Muslims but of what calibre, we are unaware).’ Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) replied, ‘Check that which is prohibited by Allah and abstain therefrom. Whatever Allah Ta’ala has not discussed, he has concessioned you. Your Rabb does not forget. Thus, say Bismillah (and partake). (Ibid)

Explaining this Hadith, Allaamah ibn Teen comments:

Concerning Tasmiyah upon slaughter carried out by others of which they are unaware, there is no obligation upon them regarding it. The (slaughter) will only be held incorrect when such evidence is established.’ Allah Ta’ala has not made it obligatory upon any Muslim to be aware of Tasmiya upon the slaughter of another Muslim, since the slaugher of another Muslim will be always regarded as correct (accompanied by Tasmiya) unless evidence is established to the contrary. (Ibid pg.794)

The above should be sufficient to clarify any doubt in the meaning of the Hadith of Bukhari.

[Al-Irhaab]

ali (ra) the best of judges amongst the sahaba (ra) said... do not eat the meat of the christians for they have learnt nothing from christianity other then wine drinking...

i think his fatwa is quite clear on this issue...

[Al-Irhaab]

Ali (ra) the best of the judges amongst the sahaba (ra) said do not eat the meat of the xtians for they have learnt nothing from christianity other then wine drinking...

I think his fatwa is above the fatwa of any modern day scholar :rolleyes:

Secondly the hadiths that say do not ask the christians whether they mentioned allah (Swt) name or not all have one common denominator. The animals were all slaughtered... ie they were killed with a blade to the throat... not shot , not electrocuted etc... also today we KNOW that they do not slaughter and they do not kill in the name of allah (Swt)...

well anyway as the ulema have said the person who eats haram meat his prayers will not be accepted for a certain time... if thats what people want to do then.... :rolleyes:

[Abu.Bakr]

Ok, I have broken my promise once more. Forgive me InshaAllah.

According to the fatwa given by Sheikh Uthaymeen, once you know the meat has been cut in a haraam way, that's when it becomes haraam for you.

Another thing, Ali radiyallahu 3unhu says we shouldn't eat from the Christians, but in the Quran it says we can.

Let me recap the quote from Sheikh Utaymeen -

If there comes to us meat that has been slaughtered by a Muslim, a Jew or a Christian, then we do not ask about it and we do not say, “How was it slaughtered?” or “Was the name of Allaah mentioned over it or not?” It is halaal so long as there is no proof that it is haraam. This is a way in which Allaah has made things easy for us. Otherwise we would have a problem every time some meat was offered to us, and we would have to ask, “Who slaughtered it? Does he pray or not? Did he say the name of Allaah over it or not? Did the blood flow or not?” and so on. But by the grace of Allaah, if an action is done by the appropriate people, then the basic principle is that it is sound and valid unless there is evidence to the contrary.

Brothers and sisters please do not think I am being ignorant into believing that this is the absolute correct opinion. I am merely stating the opinion of many of the scholars, whether we agree with it or not is totally upto us. But let us remind ourselves who possesses knowledge. Like I said before, Allah only knows best what He has permitted for His slaves and what He has prohibited.

Another thing InshaAllah. my brother Al-Irhaab has said -

well anyway as the ulema have said the person who eats haram meat his prayers will not be accepted for a certain time... if thats what people want to do then....
Akhi, I have heard this also a number of times but have never seen the daleel for it. I did a search on it at a few sites and found this -

Question :

Is it true that if you eat Haram food your salat does not get accepted for 40 days ?

Answer :

Praise be to Allaah.

If you eat haraam food, this will cause your du’aa’ to be rejected, hence it was reported in a hadeeth qudsi: “He is nourished with haraam, so how could his du’aa’ be responded to?.” The meaning is that it is unlikely that his du’aa’ will be answered. But salaah (prayer), which includes du’aa’ and other things, will still be accepted, in the sense that it serves to fulfil his obligations, and he does not have to repeat it. What was narrated was that it is the one who drinks alcohol whose prayer will not be accepted for forty days.

Shaykh ‘Abd al-Kareem al-Khudayr (www.islam-qa.com (http://www.islam-qa.com/))

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Can you show me the daleel or PM it to me InshaAllah? JazaakAllahu khair akhi

[seven]

Hadhrat Abu Bakr (Radhiyallaho anho) had a slave who used to give him a portion of his daily income as the master's share. Once he brought him some food, and Hadhrat Abu Bakr (Radhiyallaho anho) took a morsel out of it. Then the slave remarked:
"You always enquire about the source of what I bring to you, but today you have not done so."
He replied:
"I was feeling so hungry that I failed to do that. Tell me now, how did you come by this food?"
The slave said:
"Before I embraced Islam, I practiced sooth-saying. During those days I came across some people for whom I practiced some of my charms. They promised to pay me for that later on. I happened to pass by those people today, while they were engaged in a marriage ceremony, and they gave me this food."
Hadhrat Abu Bakr (Radhiyallaho anho) exclaimed: 'Ah! you would have surely killed me?"
Then he tried to vomit the morsel he had swallowed, but could not do so, as his stomach had been quite empty. Somebody suggested to him to take water to his fill and then try to vomit. He sent for a goblet of water and kept on taking water and forcing it out, till the morsel was vomit-ted out. Somebody remarked:
"May Allah have mercy on you! You put yourself to such trouble for one single morsel."
To this he made reply:
"I would have thrust it out even if I had to lose my life. I have heard the Prophet (Sallallaho alaihe wasallam) saying. 'The flesh nourished by haraam food, is destined for the fire of Hell.' I, therefore, made haste to vomit this morsel, lest any portion of my body should receive nourishment from it."
Many stories of this nature have been reported about Hadhrat Abu Bakr (Radhiyallaho anho). As he was very scrupulous and would not taste anything but that about which he was perfectly sure, even the slightest doubt about its being 'halaal' would make him vomit what he had taken.

[PASHTUN WARRIOR]

salam brother and sisters,
this is an issue where the scholars have difference of opinions. it is good to discuss such issues as we show that we are concerned with the religion of ALLAAH. however, we shouldnt divide and go to extremes and start hating brothers. the sahaba had also difference of opinions. as long as there is no difference in aqeedah, we are all ahlel sunnah. continue your discussion. just felt to say that. :D

[br. Nasir]

We know not whether the name of Allah Ta’ala has been taken (upon its slaughter) or not?

assalamu alikum

Just from this phraseits clear the Sahaba RA saying "we don't know if the name of allah wa mentioned or not.

Tthey didnt know if the name of allah was mentioned.

We can take from this that the sahaba understood that the name of allah being pronounced was a precondition for the meat being halal. As another brother said the meat was brought by new muslims and they were in DOUBT.

the sahaba are the people saying we don't know if its halal because we don't know for sure if bismillah was mentioned. THE SAHABA HELD SAYING THE NAME OF ALLAH AS A CINDITION FOR THE MEAT BEING ALLOWED TO EAT AND DIN'T EAT IT UNTILL RASOOL ALLAH SAID IT WAS OK.

Now we know for sure that the kufr companies like Perdu DO NOt say bismillah nor do they mention allah. Its beyopnd shukr doubt.

We have no reason to asumme or belive the name allah is mentioned at the time of slaughter. Its common knowledge factories in america do not mention the name of god and nobody has any reason at all to believe they do. Anyone who wishes to dispute this are following nothing but their own hawaa.

everybody with an atoms weight of honesty knows the kuffar in america and UK don't do anything in the name of allah. In fact In america It is illegal to do public business in the anme of established religion. America is a secular state not a christian state. The system in america and the companies are secular in nature not affiliated with religion.

In fact its the jews who loved to play games with allah REMEMBER THE FISHING ON THE SABBATH WHICH TURNED THEM INTO MONKEYS AND PIGS FOR THREE DAYS. ALL OVER THETHER THEY CAST THE NET BEFORE OF AFTER THE SABBATH. quite irnically it wa over food laws. The jews playing Games with allah azza wa jalle. I say this becasue of the don't ask and were not responsible attitude which was the attitude of the jews concerning rasool allah saw.

[Wojoud]

Answer this questions simply without any jumblness:

Is i t haramma or halal to eat chicken and lamb form places like mcdonalds and KFC?

[dhakiyya]

Answer this questions simply without any jumblness:

Is i t haramma or halal to eat chicken and lamb form places like mcdonalds and KFC?

haram because when they were slaughtered, the name of Allah was not mentioned, nor were they slaughtered in the halal way (with a deep cut to the throat with a sharp knife)

it is known that the meat of those who are neither Jewish nor Muslim in the western world is slaughtered without mention of the name of Allah.

Kosher meat is okay if no halal meat is availiable, other than that stick to ordering veggie burgers.

though perhaps this will put you off even buying veggie burgers from mcdonalds:
http://www.inminds.co.uk/boycott-mcdonalds.html

[CheifJunior]

You can only eat what is haram for you if there is no other alternative and its a matter of life and death for you.

Otherwise if there is no halal meat stick to vegetables. Be patient for this is your test from Allah. Pass it!

[neelu]

if you want to find out genuine halal meat shops. look on the halal monitoring comite website for authorised shops..
http://www.halalmc.co.uk/

Akhi ghurabah, I visited this site just now. Do you know if the meat is organic or not?