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:salams
just wondering, how many of you would marry a disabled person?
for example, if the sister/brother was wheelchair bound, deaf, or blind
note: we are assuming they are practicing
Al Qadr
27-03-06, 11:21 AM
I chose no :$ I personally dont think I would be able 2 cope, but Allahu alam.
Arsalan
27-03-06, 11:21 AM
depends how disabled too.
and depends whats in it for me... ( not )
Al-ghurabah
27-03-06, 01:01 PM
this reminds me of julabib. the sahabah who had no lineage and wasnt that good looking. the prophet asked a family for their daughter. they thought the prophet was going to marry her so said yes. but when he said its for julaybib they started to say no. make exxcuses. the daughte r said dare you to question or say no to a request by the prophet. so she decided to accept and married julaybib... he died a shahhed. and the prophet made specific duwah for himm..
we should not look at their looks or ability rather their islam..
I respect people's honesty. Just wondering though- if your partner became disabled after you married him/her, would you stick by him/her?
and would you expect him/her to stick by you, should you become disabled?
What if you were to have an accident tomorrow which meant that you lost some of your capabilities. What do you think would convince a person to marry (LOVE) you? Would you want people to look beyond your disability?
I'm just throwing questions around. No judgements are being made.
I agree with AbdulMajid, a lot would depend on the extent of the disability (and that's my answer to both questions, whether I'd marry the guy and whether I'd stick with him if he became disabled afterwards).
elefantebianco
29-03-06, 12:37 AM
ya Allah....i cant believe the results...i would insha'Allah
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Marriage is a matter of love; disability is a matter of body. Excepting for "first sight love" and reproduction, both things are not related. Therefore, I do not see how could I base my decision of marrying or not another person on "how disabled" she is; the sole mention of that conditional factor is disgusting.
There is an exception, however, in which case it would be perfectly understandable: If the disability would make it impossible for the other person to be actually aware and grasping of what is going on. If a person is in vegetable state, I would not marry her not because I do not love her, but because I would be unable to know if marriage is what she desires, or is the love is corresponded by her at all.
In fact, within Catholicism, one of the few accepted reasons for Nullification (that's it, when the Church allows for divorce) is when one of the members of the couple (or both, for that matter) became married without her/his consentment, which would be the case with a heavily mentally disabled person.
Leena_Cnd
29-03-06, 06:31 AM
loyalty to Allah (swt) is most important.
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VoiceoftheWest
29-03-06, 06:54 AM
If I married someone, and then they became disabled, I would stick with them, of course.
But if I saw someone disabled at first, I don't believe I would marry them.
Leena_Cnd
29-03-06, 07:01 AM
if I saw someone disabled . . . , I don't believe I would marry them.
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Lucky for them. .:D
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Love is 99% between the ears and 1% between the sheets. Never would it be a factor for me
Leena_Cnd
29-03-06, 10:04 AM
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For some silly reason this thread reminded me of this clip.
http://www.funlol.com/funpages/curry-and-rice-girl.html (http://www.funlol.com/funpages/curry-and-rice-girl.html) :rubeyes: @) :S
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wow the results are allof a sudden changing :p
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29-03-06, 10:26 AM
I respect people's honesty. Just wondering though- if your partner became disabled after you married him/her, would you stick by him/her?
and would you expect him/her to stick by you, should you become disabled?
.yes to both of those altho i voted no to the first question :S
almuawak
29-03-06, 02:14 PM
I agree with AbdulMajid, a lot would depend on the extent of the disability (and that's my answer to both questions, whether I'd marry the guy and whether I'd stick with him if he became disabled afterwards).
Assuming, presuming the person with a disability is a "practicing one"
? and "desperate" for marriage, perhaps¿ of course?OUI/NON??
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Reptile
01-05-07, 07:00 PM
i dont really see the difference to be honest & i would like to think if i was put in that situation i would say yes
Reptile
01-05-07, 07:04 PM
do you think you guys would also do it out of pity ? if you were faced with that scenario
Rosheen
01-05-07, 07:06 PM
I respect people's honesty. Just wondering though- if your partner became disabled after you married him/her, would you stick by him/her?
and would you expect him/her to stick by you, should you become disabled?
What if you were to have an accident tomorrow which meant that you lost some of your capabilities. What do you think would convince a person to marry (LOVE) you? Would you want people to look beyond your disability?
I'm just throwing questions around. No judgements are being made.
I have married an able bodied person because that is who I love. If tomorrow he would become disabled I would stand by him and Inshallah he would do the same for me.
WOULD YOU MARRY A MENTALLY UNSTABLE PERSON?? :scratch:
Islam is middle practical path . it's not obligated upon to marry disabled but i think who does it for love of Allah then masahaallah .
it is better and more practical to marry among equals . but if some one really doesit for love of handicappped it is really appreciable . but we gotta help handicapped and care for them so that they feel being a part of ummah .
we must also ask handicapped their responce as we may have some handicappped who may be highly spirited unlike normal physical phit beings .
Reptile
01-05-07, 07:16 PM
WOULD YOU MARRY A MENTALLY UNSTABLE PERSON?? :scratch:
no that i couldnt handle :(
perfectpearl
01-05-07, 07:16 PM
It depends....if i love the person then yes. Otherwise no, i cant live with a person out of pity.
Rosheen
01-05-07, 07:20 PM
A mentally unstable person???
no.....cos surely they wn't b able to provide for you and will not be aware of ther responsibilities as a husband. Also mental illness is often genetic.
Khubaib
01-05-07, 07:28 PM
Yes, if the sister had no one else to take care of her and I was capable of doing so.
I think it works differently for sisters though since the men have to be able to provide for them.
I have a disability and don't think it's possible for me to marry a Pakistani under the circumstances- either the brother would expect too much or his family would. That doesn't mean I wouldn't have been open minded to the possibility of marrying a Pakistani; it simply means I haven't been proved wrong yet. Anyway the point is moot now that I'm pursuing a particular rishta.
never marry into a rishta in which you are made to feel low or something . Allah inshaallah will provide a better rishta.
Yes, if the sister had no one else to take care of her and I was capable of doing so.
I think it works differently for sisters though since the men have to be able to provide for them.
Mmmm i agree with Khubaib its a it dif 4 us we gottsa think about it alot more and in terms of the future.
Masumah
02-05-07, 01:19 AM
i wudnt and that is because liekal-qadr sed i dont tink i wud be able to cope....but then again i js think maybe i cud so im kinda confused...der shidve bin a third option such as dont know..it alll depends on the situation.
WOULD YOU MARRY A MENTALLY UNSTABLE PERSON?? :scratch:
hmm now theres a question and a half huh, depends what type of mental instability were talking about, i can handle depression and post trumatic stress disorder type things cos u can pick him up out of that hole in the bad times, but if were talking scitzophrenia ...or something then i have to say i dunno depends on the condition and wether he recognises it within himself or not.
physical disability i wouldnt have a problem with, well except if he was wheel chair bound cos practically speaking my house is up flights of stairs...so hed have to have a house for us to live in
(well in my experience as a revert its rare u find a bro to provide u with a house already, usually they move into your house or u move into their mums place isnt it:S)
i think it would be easier marrying someone with a disability such as blindness over someone with a mental disorder, even if it is something like servere depression
sometimes no matter what u do it doesnt help them :rubeyes:
and the next bit is going to sound selfish but in all honestly i'd probably be unhappy all the time if i was married to somebody who was constantly depressed
those people with physical disabilities such as blindness and still carry on with life like any other person, i find amazing :coolbro:
asiya, tru at providing housing, lets take ummah for example, all the brothers want to be married, less than 5% can actually fulfill the rights of a woman :zzz:
true that ukhti its not easy at all ...but i have experience at caring for someone with depression and anxiety etc. so i think i could deal with that ok insha Allah ta ala with the help of Allah plus if theyre muslims,Allahu alam it would be easier to care for them than a non muslim who doesnt beleive in anything and has no hope or trust in Allah ta ala ...they might get all suicidal on u ..and that would be too much for me audu billah...
lol ...and so true about the 95 % ukhti :zzz:
Masumah
02-05-07, 01:46 AM
:up:
Lambo5688
02-05-07, 03:44 AM
less than 5% can actually fulfill the rights of a woman :zzz:
And you sisters can fulfill the rights of a man? I highly doubt it. :zzz:
perfectpearl
02-05-07, 03:45 AM
And you sisters can fulfill the rights of a man? I highly doubt it. :zzz:
you doubt it is right!!! we dont.
Lambo5688
02-05-07, 03:47 AM
you doubt it is right!!! we dont.
Thats exactly what I thought. Thanks for clearing it up. :D
$HugoBoss$
02-05-07, 03:51 AM
No way i'm sorry to say, i need someone to take care of me :D and they have to be very healthy and active to do so.
perfectpearl
02-05-07, 03:52 AM
No way i'm sorry to say, i need someone to take care of me :D and they have to be very healthy and active to do so.
what a baby :rolleyes:
And you sisters can fulfill the rights of a man? I highly doubt it. :zzz:
huh how hard is that, u just stay at home and go to him when he calls u, obey him in matters of the deen, which of course u will be doing anyway as that is obeying Allah ta ala. we dont have to provide men with clothing food or a place to live, pay the bills or spend on them in kindness, or provide for the children and etc. and alhamdulillah for that because thats a lot of responsability subhanAllah may Allah ta ala give the brothers strength in such matters amin.
$HugoBoss$
02-05-07, 04:00 AM
what a baby :rolleyes:
Who's going to iron my clothes or make me breakfast in the morning YOU??? Thought not, so zip it unperfect pearl :torture:
Lambo5688
02-05-07, 04:01 AM
huh how hard is that, u just stay at home and go to him when he calls u, obey him in matters of the deen, which of course u will be doing anyway as that is obeying Allah ta ala. we dont have to provide men with clothing food or a place to live, pay the bills or spend on them in kindness, or provide for the children and etc. and alhamdulillah for that because thats a lot of responsability subhanAllah may Allah ta ala give the brothers strength in such matters amin.
yea but still...... What about food... alot of sisters cant even cook....or clean.
perfectpearl
02-05-07, 04:02 AM
Who's going to iron my clothes or make me breakfast in the morning YOU??? Thought not, so zip it unperfect pearl :torture:
Wow....Why dont u IRON ur own CLOTHS and make ur own BREAKFAST...sersiouly how hard is it to poor cereal and milk?!!? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
perfectpearl
02-05-07, 04:03 AM
yea but still...... What about food... alot of sisters cant even cook....or clean.
I can :D
But wouldnt do it without major HELP :D :D :D
Lambo5688
02-05-07, 04:04 AM
I can :D
But wouldnt do it without major HELP :D :D :D
aah whatever.
just ask ur husband for help....im sure he will.
Lambo5688
02-05-07, 04:05 AM
Wow....Why dont u IRON ur own CLOTHS and make ur own BREAKFAST...sersiouly how hard is it to poor cereal and milk?!!? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
its probably really hard to poor cereal and milk....but easy to pour them! :rotfl:
but yea, i dont do that either...i dont any guy who lives with 2 sisters does that..muhahh
perfectpearl
02-05-07, 04:10 AM
aah whatever.
just ask ur husband for help....im sure he will.
lol....HE BETTER! even when i am doing some chores at home always gotta get my bro to help me..I tell em ur my assistant. His like well the assistant does all the dirty work! BUT the LEAST!! Anyway his great help :inlove: ...sometimes :rolleyes:
its probably really hard to poor cereal and milk....but easy to pour them! :rotfl:
but yea, i dont do that either...i dont any guy who lives with 2 sisters does that..muhahh
Two sisters....wow u consider them ur slaves...I DO NOTHING for my brothers! They never really attempted to ask me cuz they know teh answer :p
$HugoBoss$
02-05-07, 04:10 AM
Wow....Why dont u IRON ur own CLOTHS and make ur own BREAKFAST...sersiouly how hard is it to poor cereal and milk?!!? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I suck at ironing and i make breakfast myself sometimes :hidban: yeah but there's many other things you know.
Whats a wife for jeez :rolleyes:
perfectpearl
02-05-07, 04:11 AM
I suck at ironing and i make breakfast myself sometimes :hidban: yeah but there's many other things you know.
Whats a wife for jeez :rolleyes:
psssssst: A wife is a PARTNER not a salve ... :up:
$HugoBoss$
02-05-07, 04:11 AM
Lambo your sisters make your breakfast, shame on you :torture:
perfectpearl
02-05-07, 04:12 AM
Lambo your sisters make your breakfast, shame on you :torture:
:up: yea lambo shame on you! :torture:
$HugoBoss$
02-05-07, 04:13 AM
psssssst: A wife is a PARTNER not a salve ... :up:
I think it has more to do with love, you know waking up in the morning for your hubby ironing his clothes and making him breakfast, ahhhh just imagine :inlove:
perfectpearl
02-05-07, 04:14 AM
I think it has more to do with love, you know waking up in the morning for your hubby ironing his clothes and making him breakfast, ahhhh just imagine :inlove:
You sure ur not marrying a slave? :rolleyes:
$HugoBoss$
02-05-07, 04:19 AM
You sure ur not marrying a slave? :rolleyes:
Whatever pearl, you won't understand. You don't know the meaning of a husband and wife relationship.
perfectpearl
02-05-07, 04:20 AM
Whatever pearl, you won't understand. You don't know the meaning of a husband and wife relationship.
righttttt.....
$HugoBoss$
02-05-07, 04:46 AM
righttttt.....
Yeah thats the answer i expect from some 18-19 year old :rolleyes:
perfectpearl
02-05-07, 04:48 AM
Yeah thats the answer i expect from some 18-19 year old :rolleyes:
lol ...yea sure :rolleyes:
$HugoBoss$
02-05-07, 04:54 AM
lol ...yea sure :rolleyes:
You need to grow up, quit acting so chilidish :rolleyes:
psssssst: A wife is a PARTNER not a salve ... :up:
How she will be slave ? when she do some work for her hubby...:hidban: :hidban:
How good it will be Just Imagine, If wife do Ironing, making dinner, coming Immediately when ever need ..Woohhhhhhhhh :hidban: :hidban: :hidban:
$HugoBoss$
02-05-07, 05:00 AM
How she will be slave ? when she do some work for her hubby...:hidban: :hidban:
How good it will be Just Imagine, If my wife do Ironing, making dinner, coming Immediately when ever I need he..Woohhhhhhhhh :hidban: :hidban: :hidban:
How are you doing bro???? Pearl is kind of :wacko: so don't kill your brain cells on her :D
perfectpearl
02-05-07, 05:04 AM
You need to grow up, quit acting so chilidish :rolleyes:
U know whats weird..i am not lying too...I was just thinking to my self how old is this kid :smack: ..
How she will be slave ? when she do some work for her hubby...:hidban: :hidban:
How good it will be Just Imagine, If wife do Ironing, making dinner, coming Immediately when ever need ..Woohhhhhhhhh :hidban: :hidban: :hidban:
Dont abuse ur "right"! shes not obligated to do that i hope u know. :rolleyes:
How are you doing bro???? Pearl is kind of :wacko: so don't kill your brain cells on her :D
*cough* *cough* since when?
How are you doing bro???? Pearl is kind of :wacko: so don't kill your brain cells on her :D
Alhamdullah Bro Hogo! :up:
I just dont undustand why this generation girl's dont do there works properly? allways they need help...:hidban: :hidban:
insomniac
02-05-07, 05:13 AM
Alhamdullah Bro Hogo! :up:
I just dont undustand why this generation girl's dont do there works properly? allways they need help...:hidban: :hidban:
it's about compromise as well and working together:up:
$HugoBoss$
02-05-07, 05:13 AM
Alhamdullah Bro Hogo! :up:
I just dont undustand why this generation girl's dont do there works properly? allways they need help...:hidban: :hidban:
I'm glad my hydro muslim bro is doing good :up:, well girls these days are more westernized and modernized and pearl is a perfect example
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Dont abuse ur "right"! shes not obligated to do that i hope u know. :rolleyes:
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Ya Akhi: I M not abusing my right, it's a custom... and there is nothing wrong.
Ok if she dont want to do house work. then !
can you tell us what the responsibilities of Wife will be?
perfectpearl
02-05-07, 05:17 AM
Alhamdullah Bro Hogo! :up:
I just dont undustand why this generation girl's dont do there works properly? allways they need help...:hidban: :hidban:
generation.... hmmm u act like ur a 60 year old man thats been through a lot! :rolleyes:
Look, if you dont like this "gernation" teamwork thing, then go marry a slave!
it's about compromise as well and working together:up:
:up:
I'm glad my hydro muslim bro is doing good :up:, well girls these days are more westernized and modernized and pearl is a perfect example
:rofl1: Sure i am! Wow men and their rebellious selfvies...there so lost a times :rolleyes:
$HugoBoss$
02-05-07, 05:20 AM
U know whats weird..i am not lying too...I was just thinking to my self how old is this kid :smack:
Much older than you are :rolleyes:
*cough* *cough* since when?
since you opened your mouth
perfectpearl
02-05-07, 05:21 AM
Ya Akhi: I M not abusing my right, it's a custom... and there is nothing wrong.
Ok if she dont want to do house work. then !
can you tell us what the responsibilities of Wife will be?
Firstly, I am an Akoat.
Secondly okay..
Well BOTH man and women should work together to maintain the house UNLESS the man goes out working all day and the women CHOSES to stay home to cook and clean. The MAN should not be too demading. The Rasool (saw) used to cook his OWN bread and you dont want to IRON your own cloths. Now thats sad. I just think it could be more like they do everything together kind of thing. They are partners not a master and his/her slave
perfectpearl
02-05-07, 05:22 AM
Much older than you are :rolleyes:
since you opened your mouth
hugo u know nothing about me so please stop acting like you do!
insomniac
02-05-07, 05:27 AM
yo my fellow human beings....it's like 5.30am here...too early to be fighting and seeing as you both from US (6 hours behind UK time?) it's also tooo late to be fighting
hence no fighting :p
perfectpearl
02-05-07, 05:31 AM
yo my fellow human beings....it's like 5.30am here...too early to be fighting and seeing as you both from US (6 hours behind UK time?) it's also tooo late to be fighting
hence no fighting :p
lol.....I dont fight! I just try to explain to them things they dont know.
insomniac
02-05-07, 05:33 AM
lol.....I dont fight! I just try to explain to them things they dont know.
:rotfl:
Firstly, I am an Akoat.
Secondly okay..
Well BOTH man and women should work together to maintain the house UNLESS the man goes out working all day and the women CHOSES to stay home to cook and clean. The MAN should not be too demading. The Rasool (saw) used to cook his OWN bread and you dont want to IRON your own cloths. Now thats sad. I just think it could be more like they do everything together kind of thing. They are partners not a master and his/her slave
That what I was trying to say Pearl..when man goes our for work all the day, women need to take care about house work...
you known one days I kick ..:buttkick: to one of cousin when she told me she will not Iron to my shirt..Ohhh till now she did'nt refuse..:rofl1: :rofl1:
insomniac
02-05-07, 05:42 AM
That what I was trying to say Pearl..when man goes our for work all the day, women need to take care about house work...
you known one days I kick ..:buttkick: to one of cousin when she told me she will not Iron to my shirt..Ohhh till now she did'nt refuse..:rofl1: :rofl1:
:rubeyes:
you threated to :buttkick: her?..... thas not nice man
perfectpearl
02-05-07, 05:43 AM
That what I was trying to say Pearl..when man goes our for work all the day, women need to take care about house work...
you known one days I kick ..:buttkick: to one of cousin when she told me she will not Iron to my shirt..Ohhh till now she did'nt refuse..:rofl1: :rofl1:
Again....First you tell you do understand...
Seconed you ..... RUFUSED to UNDERSTAND. I hope you know you cant tell your cusion anything cuz ur not her MAHRAM. you soooooo wish i wasnt there :rolleyes:
:rubeyes:
you threated to :buttkick: her?..... thas not nice man
it was just joking...I never used to beat any one whether a man or women!but I saw so many girls who dont want to do work like (washing cloth,cooking, Ironing etc) but they sapouse to do it without any problem..
Alhamdullha I do all the house works when my mum is Sick or go for shopping :hidban: :hidban:
perfectpearl
02-05-07, 05:54 AM
it was just joking...I never used to beat any one whether a man or women!but I saw so many girls who dont want to do work like (washing cloth,cooking, Ironing etc) but they sapouse to do it without any problem..
Alhamdullha I do all the house works when my mum is Sick or go for shopping :hidban: :hidban:
Thats good that u were just joking :up: ! Well inshaa Allah try to help your mom always. Moms usually appericate it VERY much! I can tell you that for sure.
A man and women should do the washing, cooking, and cleaning. They are both responsible for it. If the Rasool (saw) HIMSELF baked his own bread then what do men complain about!
I have to go to sleep now its like 1 am ....so salams to ummah!
Again....First you tell you do understand...
Seconed you ..... RUFUSED to UNDERSTAND. I hope you know you cant tell your cusion anything cuz ur not her MAHRAM. you soooooo wish i wasnt there :rolleyes:
hai she my Aunty's daughter...(Like my own little sis!)
Lambo5688
02-05-07, 05:56 AM
miss perfect, your wrong on this one.
You mean to tell me the wife does not have to cook and clean the house? So the husband goes to work, makes the money, AND cooks and clean.
The wife is there for??? Swapping flies?
Sry sis, but the fact is, all women cook and clean for their husband, if they dont work. And even the ones that do work, alot of them still cook and clean.
Thats good that u were just joking :up: ! Well inshaa Allah try to help your mom always. Moms usually appericate it VERY much! I can tell you that for sure.
A man and women should do the washing, cooking, and cleaning. They are both responsible for it. If the Rasool (saw) HIMSELF baked his own bread then what do men complain about!
I have to go to sleep now its like 1 am ....so salams to ummah!
Masalama! :up: Jazak allah khair..
$HugoBoss$
02-05-07, 06:10 AM
Pearl is a angel lambo, she can never be wrong :rolleyes:
That what I was trying to say Pearl..when man goes our for work all the day, women need to take care about house work...
you known one days I kick ..:buttkick: to one of cousin when she told me she will not Iron to my shirt..Ohhh till now she did'nt refuse..:rofl1: :rofl1:
miss perfect, your wrong on this one.
You mean to tell me the wife does not have to cook and clean the house? So the husband goes to work, makes the money, AND cooks and clean.
The wife is there for??? Swapping flies?
Sry sis, but the fact is, all women cook and clean for their husband, if they dont work. And even the ones that do work, alot of them still cook and clean. yes thats sad isnt it, what horrible men making their wives go out to work and still come home and cook for them, they obviously have no clue
... well the duties and responsabilities of a woman are clearly defined in the Quran and sahih sunnah, the prophet SalAllahu alleyhi wa salam, used to mend his own shoes, sew, cook, tend to the animals and etc. Aisha narrated that when he was at home "he served his family, and when it was time to pray he went to pray" and there is nothing at all in the Quran or sahih sunnah that orders women to cook and clean our only responsabilities to our husbands are to come to him when he "calls" us, to obey him in matters of the deen ( which as muslim women he wont need to hand out any orders about that because we will already be doing it ) and to not let anyone into the house that he doesnt approve of while he is away, and to gaurd his wealth. All ourt money is ours to keep and spend as we like, and we can even take our husbands money and give it away in charity without telling him, and he still gets half the reward masha Allah, us women are quite useful however for giving birth to their husbands children, and of course being as garments ( companions) for them, but that still doesnt involve cooking and ironing yet, now lets see what umar ibn al Khattab had to add to that shall we perhaps u brothers will listen to `umar whom even the shayateen were afraid of ...insha Allah ta ala...
It is reported that a man once came to 'Umar, the second Caliph, with the intention of bringing to his notice certain complaints he had against his wife. When he reached the door of Umar's house, he heard the Caliph's wife railing against him. Hearing this, he went back as he thought that the Caliph himself was in the same predicament and could, therefore, be hardly expected to set matters right for him. "Umar, coming out of his house, saw the person going back. So he called him out and inquired as to the purpose which had brought him to his house. He said that he had come to him with some complaints against his wife, but turned back on finding that the Caliph himself was subject to the same treatment from his wife. "Umar said to him that he patiently bore the excesses of his wife because she had certain rights over him. "Is is not true that she cooks my food, washes my clothes and suckles my children, thus reliving me of the necessity of employing a cook, a washerman and a nurse although she is not in the slighted degree responsible for this? Not only that, I enjoy peace of mind on account of her and I am protected from committing the sin of adultery. In view of these advantages, I put up with her excesses. You should also do the same."
so lets not confuse the commands/ orders and recomendations of Allah ta ala and his messenger Salallahu alleyhi wa salam, with the opinions of men, because thats where all the previous nations went wrong . Because like it or not there is nothing in Islam from Allah ta ala or his messenger salAllahu alleyhi wa salam that commmands a woman to cook and clean. However it is mentioned so so many times by Allah ta ala and his messenger SalAllahu alleyhi wa salam as a clear command/order that men must "Fear Allah in regards to women"
anyway back to the thread and the question remains
"would u marry a physically or mentally disabled person...."
huh how hard is that, u just stay at home and go to him when he calls u, obey him in matters of the deen, which of course u will be doing anyway as that is obeying Allah ta ala. we dont have to provide men with clothing food or a place to live, pay the bills or spend on them in kindness, or provide for the children and etc. and alhamdulillah for that because thats a lot of responsability subhanAllah may Allah ta ala give the brothers strength in such matters amin.
But yeah lets face it alot cant even do tht :rolleyes: They seem to have a hard time accepting what the husband has to say..
loyalty is a big problem now days
yea but still...... What about food... alot of sisters cant even cook....or clean.
it is the husbands duty to provide food :smack: if the wife cant cook he has to get cooked food from somewhere or hire a maid
but it is the husbands responsibility to make sure she is fed, so there, in ur face lambyloo!!! :torture:
it is the husbands duty to provide food :smack: if the wife cant cook he has to get cooked food from somewhere or hire a maid
but it is the husbands responsibility to make sure she is fed, so there, in ur face lambyloo!!! :torture:
aye . u mean to say duniya is jahannam for the husbands and jannah for the wives. :torture:
i no u no mean to say like that neither i wanted to say like that :D
JiHaDiYa
02-05-07, 03:53 PM
MMS What kind of disablilty are u talking about....? Na3m i would marry someone that was disabled, Allah swt would place much khair in our marriage bizni'Allah also Allah tala will reward you for your subr....If you loved him purley fisibili'Allah then there shouldnt be a problem, its how Allah tala created him and we should be pleased with Allah tala's creation! Subhan'allah it maybe that it would be good for you, but we dont know what is good for us you no...Allahualim
Bint Yusuf
02-05-07, 05:17 PM
i swear a made this topic beforee hmmm
anyways yeh i would mary a disabled person and as a young carer already i think am emotionally and mentally ready, however not to say i wouldn't be if i hadn't come across the situation before!
perfectpearl
02-05-07, 05:50 PM
miss perfect, your wrong on this one.
You mean to tell me the wife does not have to cook and clean the house? So the husband goes to work, makes the money, AND cooks and clean.
The wife is there for??? Swapping flies?
Sry sis, but the fact is, all women cook and clean for their husband, if they dont work. And even the ones that do work, alot of them still cook and clean.
Well BOTH man and women should work together to maintain the house UNLESS the man goes out working all day and the women CHOSES to stay home to cook and clean. The MAN should not be too demading. The Rasool (saw) used to cook his OWN bread and you dont want to IRON your own cloths. Now thats sad. I just think it could be more like they do everything together kind of thing. They are partners not a master and his/her slave
see I am fair...i Posted it b4!
Pearl is a angel lambo, she can never be wrong :rolleyes:
Exactly :up:
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sorry for the off topic
(you guys always let me do this)
it is the husbands duty to provide food :smack: if the wife cant cook he has to get cooked food from somewhere or hire a maid
but it is the husbands responsibility to make sure she is fed, so there, in ur face lambyloo!!! :torture:
I may prefer a slave wife who can do everything for me:hidban:
perfectpearl
02-05-07, 06:21 PM
I may prefer a slave wife who can do everything for me:hidban:
Tough luck buddy!
I wonder how many fakers are here :p
me.sawda
02-05-07, 07:10 PM
Disable person knows how it feels so I'ld prefer to be a humble Muslim.... and it's going to be really big reward from Allah (Swt)to assist someone like that. :D
$HugoBoss$
02-05-07, 07:20 PM
I may prefer a slave wife who can do everything for me:hidban:
I salute you for your wise words :up:
Lambo5688
02-05-07, 10:43 PM
Well BOTH man and women should work together to maintain the house UNLESS the man goes out working all day and the women CHOSES to stay home to cook and clean. The MAN should not be too demading. The Rasool (saw) used to cook his OWN bread and you dont want to IRON your own cloths. Now thats sad. I just think it could be more like they do everything together kind of thing. They are partners not a master and his/her slave]
Ok, so lets say, Wife X does not work, she is a housewife. Her husband does work. So when the husband comes home, the wife should "prefer" that he helps her in the cooking and cleaning and ironing?
The wife is there for keeping us out of fitnah, thats it?
I am not saying the husband cant do it, if he does want to..mashallah thats great and he should. BUT, a non-working wife has no right to demand/ask help from her husband to cook, clean, and IRON.
perfectpearl
02-05-07, 11:00 PM
Ok, so lets say, Wife X does not work, she is a housewife. Her husband does work. So when the husband comes home, the wife should "prefer" that he helps her in the cooking and cleaning and ironing?
The wife is there for keeping us out of fitnah, thats it?
I am not saying the husband cant do it, if he does want to..mashallah thats great and he should. BUT, a non-working wife has no right to demand/ask help from her husband to cook, clean, and IRON.
See thats not my point.....
Wife X Husband X
The men goes to work - the women CHOSES to be a house wife. Cleans the house and cooks while he returns from work. During the weekends they HELP each other cook and clean - its even now!
Wife Z Husband Z
The wife and husband BOTH work. They assist each other in EVERYTHING including cooking and cleaning. The women is not obligated to cook and clean cuz it wouldnt be fair....end of STORY
If a women choses to stay HOME then she has to do something! She cant just their and look pretty!
Do u get my point now?
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:( Doesn't feel right to see you say that akhi. Having said that, if my illness became severe, I think I'd forget the whole idea of marriage too.
muslimah85
02-05-07, 11:07 PM
:( Doesn't feel right to see you say that akhi. Having said that, if my illness became severe, I think I'd forget the whole idea of marriage too.
what is your illness sis if you don't mind me asking? :)
M.E, known as CFIDS in America or the misnomer CFS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YemwVBeYVKM
muslimah85
02-05-07, 11:16 PM
May Allah grant you shifa Insh'Allah :love: and a lovely hubby too :D
wa alaikum salam wa rahmatullah wa barakatuh akhi, I do understand there is a lot of physical and practical daily care needed and i dont think anyone would speak flippantly about being prepared to deal with such a thing, we have to remember that anyone of us could wake up one day in the same situation. even within a marriage this could happen to one or other spouses and who would turn their back on their spouse in such difficult times ..as the prophet salAllahu alleyhi wa salam said " none of you truely believes until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself. "
I used to attend a class of a brother, and i loved his classes masha Allah he had such a nice manner of teaching and helping us to understand our deen. I never saw him, i just listened....and then after about a year he began his class one day about having hope and trust in Allah ta ala .. and he told us this, that he had been born severly disabled, to a non muslim family, and was completely wheelchair bound and he needed daily care, his mother ( in trying to prepare him i guess Allahu alam) told him when he was a young teenager that he will never be able to marry or have children that he should come to terms with this fact. But he was not perturbed, he studied and began to research Islam, and he became a muslim subhanAllah... and he then got married to a muslim woman and they now have a beautiful baby together and he never thought in his wildest dreams that he would have such a life subhanAllah...with a wife and a child ...:) masha Allah may Allah ta ala bless our brother musa and his family amin, akhi dont ever give up hope insha Allah
masha Allah yes true and no doubt when hopes get dashed a lot, its easy to loose heart and give up because pain hurts for sure... but like my father always used to tell me if u dont take the occasional risk in marriage and love then u may end up risking never finding something so beautiful .. and its true Allah ta ala may provide for u from where u least expected it insha Allah ( i have to keep reminding myself of this a lot ) keep making duaa akhi nothing is impossible for Allah ta ala :) may He ta ala bless u with a kind patient and gentle pious wife amin.
as salaam alaykum,
its so hard to find a practicing pious brother who knows his aqeedah.. so if he has those qualities [and i was in need of a husband] any disability doesn't matter. marriage is the best kind of companionship... alhamdulillah for my husband.
me.sawda
03-05-07, 06:32 PM
Skin disease is a physical disability?
Would marry a disabled person.
SMILING
04-06-07, 03:44 PM
:salams
just wondering, how many of you would marry a disabled person?
for example, if the sister/brother was wheelchair bound, deaf, or blind
note: we are assuming they are practicing
FOR ME IT DEPENDS ON THE DISABILITY BUT A FRIEND OF MINE IS GETTING MERRY TO A DISABLED ONE , HE'S A DOCTOR AND SHE'S STUDYING MEDICINE
SMILING
04-06-07, 03:46 PM
WOULD YOU MARRY A MENTALLY UNSTABLE PERSON?? :scratch:
WOULD YOU?
WOULD YOU?
personally id cope better with a physically disabled person rather than a mentally unstable person :nervous:
even if its a bad case of depression, its catchy and i dont think i could deal with a person like that :( because some of them are constantly unhappy no matter what u do and some of them dont even have a reason to be that unhappy so i dont really understand and i couldnt deal with it :rubeyes:
Bint Yusuf
04-06-07, 09:37 PM
i don't think your allowed to marry a mentally disbaled person, i mean severe cases, because what if they tried to do something to you etc.
i would marry anyone regardless though of what is wrong with them as long as they weren't going to endanger me or my children inshAllah!
if only you could spend a day with someone who is disabled and is going through one trial after the other and still they don't shed a tear subhanAllah, makes you feel guilty boy!:(
uhkt_al'muminun
04-06-07, 09:45 PM
I havent voted yes or no cause in my opinon (not that it matters much) but never the less, it easy to say yes to many things before it actually happens but when reality hits you your nafs may contradict your words! so in this case marrying a disabled brother...only Allah knows best
i wouldnt actively look to get married to a disabled sister but i wouldnt hold it against someone if they were a good muslim and a good person.
Moslima_Y
04-06-07, 11:05 PM
Assalaamoe 3alayakoom warahmatoe'Allah wabaraktoehoe,
I voted yes, because you marrie the haert not what's outside... And they are also al galook Allah Subhan7ana wa Ta3ala...
I would if i know that it's physical... But if it's mental (then it's allmost inpossible because they don't know what there doing) ...
I did my practical tranee in a centre for disable people... And they were very nice...
But gair inch'Allah everyone has an other opinion...
Ma3a salama Oegt Y. fi dien
scribble
12-09-07, 07:43 PM
I would.
Eeek. I didn't bump it up, it was already at top, that's why I replied.
MusLim_4Lyf
14-09-07, 10:41 AM
Assalamualaikum
:lailah:
i would defeinetly stick to him until my last breathe...
and i wouldn't expect him to stay with me...because it would be hard for a boy..but my husband will be with me until i die..INSHALLAH.i am sure...i have faith in him...in my to be husband..
if i become disable( ALLAH na kare)...hope not..but, i would decide never to get married...i mean, why would i want to be a burden on someone...noo wayy..
i would defeinetly stick to him until my last breathe...
and i wouldn't expect him to stay with me...because it would be hard for a boy
Subhanallah talk about low expectations! :rubeyes:
Believer1984
18-09-07, 10:10 AM
You would have to have a big heart to say yes.
I myself would marry 1 depending on her piety.
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stephenoskie
18-09-07, 10:49 AM
yeah because people with disableties are still human beings why should they be treated differently, why should people with disabilites have less oppoutuniotes opposed to the fully abled person
Pro_Candy
03-10-07, 01:16 PM
I voted 'no', but then thought about it. Depends on the disability, I think. If the person is able to care for themselves and is sane, then I don't see why not. But if the person is dependant on others for basic needs, then no, I couldn't.
On the other hand, if I married a man and he treated me with love and respect (didn't treat me bad) and something happened to him (which inshaAllah wouldn't happen), I would not ask for a divorce.
zain2889
20-02-08, 12:41 PM
yeah i would, if they were good to be around and had morals etc...
nobody asked to be disabled... those who said no are silly for turning down a good woman/man because of something they cant control....
ana_mujahid
27-02-08, 08:08 PM
I chose no :$ I personally dont think I would be able 2 cope, but Allahu alam.
Same answer same reason :)
toufeeq
27-02-08, 08:10 PM
this reminds me of julabib. the sahabah who had no lineage and wasnt that good looking. the prophet asked a family for their daughter. they thought the prophet was going to marry her so said yes. but when he said its for julaybib they started to say no. make exxcuses. the daughte r said dare you to question or say no to a request by the prophet. so she decided to accept and married julaybib... he died a shahhed. and the prophet made specific duwah for himm..
we should not look at their looks or ability rather their islam..
Like seriously bro this was touching? I the Imam's only gave khutbahs and lectures on the seerah it would suffice us!
toufeeq
28-02-08, 06:16 PM
:salams
just wondering, how many of you would marry a disabled person?
for example, if the sister/brother was wheelchair bound, deaf, or blind
note: we are assuming they are practicing
I'd marry a deaf person.
GAL-actic
28-02-08, 07:41 PM
Allahu a'lam to be honest I don't know...
thurber
28-02-08, 09:21 PM
Many of us will not marry a disabled person, but may end up in a marriage with a disabled person.
For better, or worse...
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