mixed race marriages

[urban_rose]

i did this for my coursework a couple of months ago, so i was wondering what ur views are on mixed race marriages....on a personal level, would you?

[islamgyal]

yea y not cuz am practising izlam so y not it's co0o0o0l :)

[Te'oma]

I come from a history of 500 years of inter racial hookups

[urban_rose]

I come from a history of 500 years of inter racial hookups

cool!!

[MMS]

i think the only thing that makes it difficult is culture
say if a british black muslim married a british white muslim i dont think race would be a big factor because they share the same culture

whereas if it was a pakistani muslim (who usually come from very cultured families) and a white muslim, race would be a bigger factor because the differences in culture

[PaGaL~LaDo0]

^ ditt0 lak :D

[K@M]

Yea, COURSE I would :D

In fact, I would like to, just cos its uncommon and shows the unity of the Ummah. How regardless of race, background, culture, two people can live together for the rest of thier life living happily with only religion (i.e Islam) being the link between the two. Plus, its good to spread the deen to other parts of the ummah.

[Universal_Islam]

In my opinion, the only barrier that prevents from getting married to any woman is the difference in religion (Islam). Other than that, there is absolutely no barrier. Culture, Language, Race, ...etc are not considered obstacles for me.

[islamgyal]

^ ditt0 lak :D

wot du dat mean:confused: :confused: lak

[Al-Dhikr]

As Salaamu Alaikum,

I tried this a couple of years back, it didn't work. Both our families didn't work towards it at all, rather they both waited for the other to make the first move. Their acceptance of the idea was nothing more than mere lip service. But still I would love to marry a person whom is of a different culture than myself.

Ma'aSalaama

[Ar-Raya]

I can understand from a cultural background that a person looking at a prospective wife/husband might not want someone who is so culturally different from themselves...This is just a preference for themselves

But I what does bug me is the parent thing...When a person wants to marry someone that is culturally different from themselves...(or rather from their upbringing)....their parents bring up loads of excuses and try and hinder them and not want them to get married...
It's stupid and backwards...

If a person wants to get married to a muslim and their is nothing wrong with their character and they are pious then WHO ARE YOU (as a parent) to say NO...

I think it's good to have mixed marriages and mixed cultures etc...Because it brings the Muslim Ummah closer together...If u have two different backgrounds as a child it means that u are brought up not being narrow minded towards othercultures...
For example If your mother was Turkish and your father was Mexican....(*smiles*...and no,these are not were my parents come from...*smiles*)...Then you'll grow up with both a love for turkish and mexican food...It would stengthen you in believing that you are MUSLIM first and then half turkish/mexican...

Because you would be tolerant and open to different cultures,when you came across your muslims brother/sister you wouldn't be prejudice just because of their different culture...

[Jannah123]

I can understand from a cultural background that a person looking at a prospective wife/husband might not want someone who is so culturally different from themselves...This is just a preference for themselves

But I what does bug me is the parent thing...When a person wants to marry someone that is culturally different from themselves...(or rather from their upbringing)....their parents bring up loads of excuses and try and hinder them and not want them to get married...
It's stupid and backwards...

If a person wants to get married to a muslim and their is nothing wrong with their character and they are pious then WHO ARE YOU (as a parent) to say NO...

I think it's good to have mixed marriages and mixed cultures etc...Because it brings the Muslim Ummah closer together...If u have two different backgrounds as a child it means that u are brought up not being narrow minded towards othercultures...
For example If your mother was Turkish and your father was Mexican....(*smiles*...and no,these are not were my parents come from...*smiles*)...Then you'll grow up with both a love for turkish and mexican food...It would stengthen you in believing that you are MUSLIM first and then half turkish/mexican...

Because you would be tolerant and open to different cultures,when you came across your muslims brother/sister you wouldn't be prejudice just because of their different culture...


Well said. I completely agree-especially with your third paragraph. Excellent poitnts. Islam is about diversity-Islam came to rid humanity from the injustices and prejudices of racism.

[LiveIslam]

I can understand from a cultural background that a person looking at a prospective wife/husband might not want someone who is so culturally different from themselves...This is just a preference for themselves

But I what does bug me is the parent thing...When a person wants to marry someone that is culturally different from themselves...(or rather from their upbringing)....their parents bring up loads of excuses and try and hinder them and not want them to get married...
It's stupid and backwards...

If a person wants to get married to a muslim and their is nothing wrong with their character and they are pious then WHO ARE YOU (as a parent) to say NO...

I think it's good to have mixed marriages and mixed cultures etc...Because it brings the Muslim Ummah closer together...If u have two different backgrounds as a child it means that u are brought up not being narrow minded towards othercultures...
For example If your mother was Turkish and your father was Mexican....(*smiles*...and no,these are not were my parents come from...*smiles*)...Then you'll grow up with both a love for turkish and mexican food...It would stengthen you in believing that you are MUSLIM first and then half turkish/mexican...

Because you would be tolerant and open to different cultures,when you came across your muslims brother/sister you wouldn't be prejudice just because of their different culture...

i agree to what you have said ur totally right mashallah people should see other muslim as muslim not what culture.:up:

[Al-ghurabah]

i would but unfortunatly not all muslim are undertsanding. we still have assabbiyah(nationlism) where muslims want to mary from their own.
ive had this. even with my self. not easy at all.
my mum says if you marry someone else how will i communicte with them. as she does not spea much english. but im married now so its all good.

[Jannah123]

As Salaamu Alaikum,

I tried this a couple of years back, it didn't work. Both our families didn't work towards it at all, rather they both waited for the other to make the first move. Their acceptance of the idea was nothing more than mere lip service. But still I would love to marry a person whom is of a different culture than myself.

Ma'aSalaama

That's a shame. Unfortunately, it appears that people stil have the 'Jahiliyyah' concept of 'who'se better than the other.'
It's quite unfortunate that people can't just chose their spouses based on the deen and khuluq.

[Jannah123]

i would but unfortunatly not all muslim are undertsanding. we still have assabbiyah(nationlism) where muslims want to mary from their own.
ive had this. even with my self. not easy at all.
my mum says if you marry someone else how will i communicte with them. as she does not spea much english. but im married now so its all good.


Alot of people are concerned with communication. Difference in language should never count as a barrier as people can learn each other's language. I know plenty of reverts/non-Arabs who speak perfect Arabic as well as other languages. Some people are capable of picking languages up very quickly.

[.: Anna :.]

My marriage is mixed race between irish (me) and sri lankan (Baba) :love:
It's not really a problem for us cos we're both brought up in the UK, I think its true as someone said there are more dif between the people brought up in dif countries, culturewise. Like there are alot more culture dif between his parents that are brought up in sri lanka and mine brought up between Ireland and UK (like some time in each, not between as in the middle of the sea :p)
The communication thing... it's okay, I picked up a fair amount of tamil language now :p
I dnt find any problem, if our kids insha allah wanted 2 marry someone from a dif background (well prob they will unless we find them some more irish-sri lankan mix kids to marry... unlikely, i only know one other who is my cousin removed or something and not muslim) its fine wit me! :D

[Al-Mujaddidah]

on a personal level, would you?

Yes...

[muslim_sis]

I can understand from a cultural background that a person looking at a prospective wife/husband might not want someone who is so culturally different from themselves...This is just a preference for themselves

But I what does bug me is the parent thing...When a person wants to marry someone that is culturally different from themselves...(or rather from their upbringing)....their parents bring up loads of excuses and try and hinder them and not want them to get married...
It's stupid and backwards...

If a person wants to get married to a muslim and their is nothing wrong with their character and they are pious then WHO ARE YOU (as a parent) to say NO...

I think it's good to have mixed marriages and mixed cultures etc...Because it brings the Muslim Ummah closer together...If u have two different backgrounds as a child it means that u are brought up not being narrow minded towards othercultures...
For example If your mother was Turkish and your father was Mexican....(*smiles*...and no,these are not were my parents come from...*smiles*)...Then you'll grow up with both a love for turkish and mexican food...It would stengthen you in believing that you are MUSLIM first and then half turkish/mexican...

Because you would be tolerant and open to different cultures,when you came across your muslims brother/sister you wouldn't be prejudice just because of their different culture...

true but parents most of the time believe they are right , which in some cases they are (in general, not just in marriage) - but it doesn't mean to say that ur daughter/son dont have a say especially if parents are being complacent, just expecting a miracle to come along for their daughter/son. no ones perfect , but the ones that are best are those with the deen, hence (inshAllah) being kind to their wives.

Allah knows best
i think it's the state of the ummah today that makes ''practising parents'' (not just cultural ones) be more cautious....coz in the original state of Islam we should all trust one another and be united etc. Our ummah now is broken, in regards to marriage , things such as hearing the story that ''oh he got married to her and she said he was soo nice etc, few weeks down the line he's beating her'' !!! that's why we as muslims need god fearing company, friends and spouses.

InshAllah allah grant those that strive for his path , with wonderful god-fearing spouses.ameen.

[bilal_uk_101]

my sis is engaged to some non muslim white guy!!!

I will break this crap up right now!!!!:bang: :inlove: :inlove:

[Al-Muhaajiroun]

my sis is engaged to some non muslim white guy!!!

I will break this crap up right now!!!!:bang: :inlove: :inlove:mmm then it is your duty to break this relation up immediately, or she may become an apostate. ALLAH says in the Qu'aan that believing women are not allowed to marry a kafir.

[bilal_uk_101]

truthfully i dont even think she is muslim:(

now the problem is he is white!!!:rolleyes: :torture:

[Al-Muhaajiroun]

truthfully i dont even think she is muslim:(

now the problem is he is white!!!:rolleyes: :torture:The problem is not because he is white, but the fact that he is a kafir, and she can be following in his footsteps if she aint careful.

[Zenobia]

Genetic science has proved that there is no such thing as 'race'; there are only loose gene pools. A strict demarcation between groups of people based on their eye, hair or skin colour is completely ridiculous. I think the term 'ethnic group' is more near to the truth because that is like describing a collective gene pool with the cultures and values largely endemic in that particular group. One of the things that i find so remarkable and fantastic about Islam is its removal of 'race' as an issue. However i can see how a marriage between members of different ethnic groups with possible clashes of imbued cultures and values etc might be a problem.

[AbuMubarak]

marriage requires committment and that committment requires similar goals

as is humanly typical, the more similarities, the easier the partnership

so if the two of you are cousins within a close family, it goes to say that would be easier than a chinese muslim marrying an african muslim, who dont even speak the same language

however, there is no rule and to be a racist within islam is a major sin, so its really up to the families and the bride and groom

because there are numerous examples in history and even amongst us, that the chinese/african couple do better than the close cousins

but for the muslim, islam should be the mortar that makes the marriage work, regardless of the origins of the people involved

and Allah knows best

[ThE aPpReNtIcE]

I have nooo problem wats so ever

[Leena_Cnd]

#1) Same Religion, Islam :up:
#2) Same values/ethics
#3) Loyalty.
. . . & agreeing habits are whats most important,
looks will fade, and are redundant.
.
.

[Noor]

I went to a wedding once where the girl was pakistani and the groom was an Italian revert

[SoulAsylum]

I went to a wedding once where the girl was pakistani and the groom was an Italian revert

Would have called their kids Bambino's :D .........

if they had any.

[prescence]

A,A

I am new on this forum this is my first post i hope everyone on this forum who contributes is okay.i was just browsing this forum and came across the mixed marriages i think this is a very sensitive issue which i feel very strongly about and had to contribute so in order to do this i just became a member.

The most fundamental question when choosing a partner is a religious one- As far as language, background, or social position are concerned, these are not significant factors that absolutely must be fulfilled before a marriage can take place. If the prospective partner is of good character, with a strong religious inclination, and the two young people are happy and feel compatible with one another, other considerations are not of such importance.”

I would be very happy to marry someone from a different culture.i have been bought up in a environment where my parents are very narrow minded and they dont show any respect to other cultures even though they muslims this gos as far as not bringing my own muslim friends to my house which i think its very sad this is the ignorance of todays people we need to be exposed to other cultures such as mixed marriages so we appreciate all our muslim brothers and sisters

[prescence]

A,A

I am new on this forum this is my first post i hope everyone on this forum who contributes is okay.i was just browsing this forum and came across the mixed marriages i think this is a very sensitive issue which i feel very strongly about and had to contribute so in order to do this i just became a member.

The most fundamental question when choosing a partner is a religious one- As far as language, background, or social position are concerned, these are not significant factors that absolutely must be fulfilled before a marriage can take place. If the prospective partner is of good character, with a strong religious inclination, and the two young people are happy and feel compatible with one another, other considerations are not of such importance.”

I would be very happy to marry someone from a different culture.i have been bought up in a environment where my parents are very narrow minded and they dont show any respect to other cultures even though they muslims this gos as far as not bringing my own muslim friends to my house which i think its very sad this is the ignorance of todays people we need to be exposed to other cultures such as mixed marriages so we appreciate all our muslim brothers and sisters

[moh_awady]

i think that we don't have the choice to choose our partner it is something like our birthdate so all of us can think and imagin his/her partner and in the end he /she gets married someone not related to the image that he thinking about......
i thought and thought till becam tired and all what i do now just waiting for my fate

[Le Croyant]

I m a product of a mixed marraige...

my dad's an South Asian & mom's an Arab. That makes me South Asian by race.

and my wife's is also a product of mixed marraige. Her dad is an Arab but her mom is from South Asia. Technacillay & cuturally she's more Arab.

And i guess i can say my marraige is mixed too to some extent.

[.: Anna :.]

I went to a wedding once where the girl was pakistani and the groom was an Italian revertwe know of a couple like that but the other way round, ie the girl is the italian revert lol masha allah

[Niqaabi]

yeh my white friend is married to a sri lankan guy. :)

[Hayaa]

a friend of mine's mum is an english [a revert] and dad's an emarati :)

[Leena_Cnd]

.
P.S.
Having the same goals is a trap.
Basically everyone wants the same goals eg. financially stable, house . . .
Anyone I've known who marries just because they say they have the same goals, interests ect end up with major problems.
Same religion, same ethics, loyalty, common habits is what is needed to make a relationship last.
.
.

[Ayah]

But I what does bug me is the parent thing...When a person wants to marry someone that is culturally different from themselves...(or rather from their upbringing)....their parents bring up loads of excuses and try and hinder them and not want them to get married...
It's stupid and backwards...

If a person wants to get married to a muslim and their is nothing wrong with their character and they are pious then WHO ARE YOU (as a parent) to say NO...


Masha Allah.. good points here. It's unforutnate how closed-minded parents could be.

~ Ayah

[Guardian Hijab]

In Canada, marrying someone of another race is the norm.

And have you noticed that mixed children are SOOOO beautiful mash'Allah!:inlove:

If that isn't a sign from Allah, I don't know what is.

[Te'oma]

In Canada, marrying someone of another race is the norm.

And have you noticed that mixed children are SOOOO beautiful mash'Allah!:inlove:

If that isn't a sign from Allah, I don't know what is.

ameen to that

[mara]

I went to a wedding once where the girl was pakistani and the groom was an Italian revert
The italians are very jealous and protective :)

[Al-Muhaajiroun]

I went to a wedding once where the girl was pakistani and the groom was an Italian revertlol wow her parents must of went mad as some of you guys know that this is a NO NO in a pakistani family.:D

[thai-muslimah]

i would like to add my two cents....

ok...first of all, we should marry someone for their PIETY. that's number one. everything else is under that.

and not marrying someone just bcz he or she isnt from where u come from is a very very very poor excuse. it's undestandable if u want someone who is similar to ur character but RACE or ETHNICITY? man...i feel so sad for people who are so narrowminded and discriminant.

and shame on 'muslim' parents who are like that too....these days, they wanna marry off their kids to others who are 'educated' and holds a college degree, at least for the guys but girls too as it is rising and a need. ugh...

anyway...it really bugs me...so im gonna stop...

and yeah...i would sooooo love to marry someone who is from somewhere different.

and u no what? Allah doesnt bestow to us something that we can not handle.....therefore, marrying someone of a different bkgrnd is not suppose to be that much of a burden and hardship to the point where we can not handle it.

that's my two cents .......any one have change? hehehehe

[Queenhatshepsut]

I am a caucasian American Muslimah engaged to an Egyptian Arab Muslim. We're getting married in February, Insha Allah. So I say, "YES!!!"

[LiliDerguti]

I'm white, first-generation American :(.. My parents are from Albania, and I was raised (as best as they could) with Albanian traditinos. I was married to a white American, but it was pure hell for me, and only lasted 2 years. I'm re-married to an Albanian man, and for me, he's my knight in shining armor :)

My cousin is married to a Syrian man. Culture is a factor in thier marriage, but I think that since they both try to adhere to Islam, those things are minor, and they overcome them..

My theory on it is, is that it all boils down to your religion and your fate from God.

[islamgyal]

well what can i say me mum is an white n me dad's an asian :) me and me Fiancee will be gettin married soon afta the baby caus =e am pregnant so i think it's cool to get married to different race :)

take care

[Angela]

I'm a white American, reverted to Islam in October 2005.

I am engaged to a man from Bangladesh who is a very pious Muslim.

He is brown, and me being of mostly Swedish decent am very fair skinned.

Even though our cultures and color is different, we are so much in love and have a lot in common. He will also be a great teacher for me to learn more about Islam! I am so looking forward to becoming his wife.:inlove:

[Mujaheedah]

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[islamgyal]

Asslamualaikum sis, it's good you got the whole jiff that Islam is not about race, I don't know if I understood correctly but the whole situation you described, you should remove it, it's not good to make your sins public. If I got it wrong I truly apologize.


what u mean?:rolleyes: :confused:

take care

[Mujaheedah]

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[islamgyal]

yea that's why am hgoin to get married to him cause i have been tld it's not allowed in izlam

and as i've converted am tryin me best to learn

take care

[Mujaheedah]

yea that's why am hgoin to get married to him cause i have been tld it's not allowed in izlam

and as i've converted am tryin me best to learn

take care
Masha'allah sis it's good that you are going to marry him, just thought you would like to remove the BF part from your post, I mean you could write Fiancee or something.

[islamgyal]

sis i've changed it so it's all gud lol

take care

[Al-Rasyid]

on a personal level, would you?
Yes, indeed........

but, there is a bit problem in some Arabic descendant, they or their parent don't want to marry or to marry their son / daughter with non-arabic. Although some Arabic descendant have been living in Indonesia for long year and non-arabic is Muslim too ....

What a sorry ......

[muslim_sis]

What a sorry ......
.......................??

i think its sad that these kind of divisions , out of all people , are kept on-going by muslims, :(

[janathi]

.......................??

i think its sad that these kind of divisions , out of all people , are kept on-going by muslims, :(

:salams

Subhan'Allah :(

May Allah(swt) indeed MAKE :) the Ummah united Ameen!

:wswrwb:

[muslim_sis]

:salams

Subhan'Allah :(

May Allah(swt) indeed keep the Ummah united Ameen!

:wswrwb:
keep ??
if that was the case , all we would have to do is maintain it, but its not, we have to build the unity of the ummah first , then ''keep'' united.
may allah MAKE us united.Ameen.

[janathi]

keep ??
if that was the case , all we would have to do is maintain it, but its not, we have to build the unity of the ummah first , then ''keep'' united.
may allah MAKE us united.Ameen.

:salams

Ameen :)

:wswrwb:

[DESTINY]

i did this for my coursework a couple of months ago, so i was wondering what ur views are on mixed race marriages....on a personal level, would you?

WHAT EXACTLY IS INTER RACE???

CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG THERE IS ONLY ONE HUMAN RACE ON THIS PLANET BY THE GRACE/WILL OF ALLAH(SWT)

SO WERE DOES INTER RACE COME FROM THE TERM EXACTLY?

OR MIXED RACE MARRIAGES

IT IS A PREJUDICED STATEMENT THAT I , BEING A MUSLIM, AM AGAINST AND WOULD EXPECT ANY GENUINE MUSLIM TO BE AGAINST ALSO. ITS LIKE IF YOUR BORN IN THE UK OR EUROPE OR ANYWERE. PEOPLE STILL COME UP WITH THE TERM WERE DO YOU COME FROM? INDIA OR PAKISTAN?

GO FIGURE

[muslim_sis]

WHAT EXACTLY IS INTER RACE???

CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG THERE IS ONLY ONE HUMAN RACE ON THIS PLANET BY THE GRACE/WILL OF ALLAH(SWT)

SO WERE DOES INTER RACE COME FROM THE TERM EXACTLY?

OR MIXED RACE MARRIAGES

IT IS A PREJUDICED STATEMENT THAT I , BEING A MUSLIM, AM AGAINST AND WOULD EXPECT ANY GENUINE MUSLIM TO BE AGAINST ALSO. ITS LIKE IF YOUR BORN IN THE UK OR EUROPE OR ANYWERE. PEOPLE STILL COME UP WITH THE TERM WERE DO YOU COME FROM? INDIA OR PAKISTAN?

GO FIGURE
sis i dont think theres anything wrong with someone asking where u r from , i could ask that , but it doesnt mean i dislike u coz ur from such and such a place, its just a general question.

but yes as u said there is only one human race on this planet , islamically , we are all brothers and sisters ... but sadly among the muslims there are cultural factors where they find that it is not acceptable for their child to marry out side of their cast or wateva ... but obviously this is NOT from Islam , thats why we should try to adopt islam into our lives and our families lives as much as possible , i think !

[LiveIslam]

i agree with u sister

[almuawak]

I'm a white American, reverted to Islam in October 2005.

I am engaged to a man from Bangladesh who is a very pious Muslim.

He is brown, and me being of mostly Swedish decent am very fair skinned.

Even though our cultures and color is different, we are so much in love and have a lot in common. He will also be a great teacher for me to learn more about Islam! I am so looking forward to becoming his wife.:inlove:


:up: Hope it lasts... and down with the haters!


I personally have already dealt with a similar thread " who is an Arab ¿" ...






:zzz:

:rolleyes: "The world is a buffet, why eat salad only?" Le Gourmand, Chapitre 2

[muslim_sis]

:rolleyes: "The world is a buffet, why eat salad only?" Le Gourmand, Chapitre 2
interesting quote :rolleyes: lol

[safiyah]

No problems going out with someone of a different culture, religion or race.

What I believe is important is having the same basic moral and ethical values.
.... I've never married, does that mean my value system is completely off the wall or that I'm choosy? :D

[muslimah85]

I'm a white American, reverted to Islam in October 2005.

I am engaged to a man from Bangladesh who is a very pious Muslim.

He is brown, and me being of mostly Swedish decent am very fair skinned.

Even though our cultures and color is different, we are so much in love and have a lot in common. He will also be a great teacher for me to learn more about Islam! I am so looking forward to becoming his wife.:inlove:
Mashallah sis :inlove: ;)

[Phoenix CG]

hell yeah

[MalikOne™]

my sis is engaged to some non muslim guy!!!


Deal wid him man :badguy:

[*IslamicGirl*]

:start:

:salams

Deal wid him man :badguy:

Why just deal with him?... it takes two to tango...or get married in this case :rolleyes: Seen too many families giving the guy a beating for 'taking their daughter to the dark side' :rolleyes: but the daughter consents and agrees for things to reach that far.


Back to the topic: if i found a pious brother who wasn't Kashmiri, would i marry him? Yes :insha: providing that my family approves and checks him out so he's legit and didn't turn out to be some freshie spinning me a line :crying: (Pass the Kleenex Muffi)


:salams

[sisterKhadija]

Assalaam Alkaium,

I married a Muslim brother from Tunisia, alhamdulliah before I reverted and I am white as snow :inlove: :hidban:

[Quest]

Really and truely, when islam is a way of life, it should be just that, the argument of oh you are from different cultures carries no weight for me.
culture is a way of life and so is ISLAM, if a couple live the life of the latter then culture is not needed, if we are truthful we will see all the good things our cultures offer us come from islam, examples, respecting parents and elders, being generous and kind to guests etc.
all the bad things it offers us, example nationalistic mindsets are against ISLAM.

so why bother with culture in the first place?

I am a somali, the only things i like about my culture is the food (got to have banana with my rice)

the other aspects of my culture i could do without for the 80% of good it has to offer can be found elaborated better in the way of life islam has to offer.

thankfully, my family are not racists, though some show dislike for certain issues, i feel blessed that my father supported all my decisions so long as they were inline with ISLAM. and my mother recently said "bring to me any man so long as he is muslim"

My uncle however, though not a racist is more concerned about getting along with the man i choose to marry, he says if he doesnt speak somali and i speak no english how will i communicate with him? i said u speak perfect arabic what if he did to? my uncle replied "thats cool i have no issues then"

seriously, we should intermarry with other racists.

currently a close friend of mine is engaged to a sri lankan shes somali
the other is engaged to a pakistani shes somali also

i think the somali community is begining to open up more regarding this issue, i know two sisters whom are married to a nigerian and a brother from ghana. few years back they would have had a backlash from the somali community.

nowadays people dont bother, i think they are winning the battle of race.

"Verily after hardship there comes relief"

whilst i am on this issue, lets remember the differences between discrimination and prefrence.

marry from other races, whose your daddy everybody :_)

[Nas]

i wouldnt marry a white woman :rolleyes:

my sister is marry a white man im against it and am not going to the wedding...i might also fight him:torture:

[Te'oma]

i wouldnt marry a white woman :rolleyes:

my sister is marry a white man im against it and am not going to the wedding...i might also fight him:torture:

and why exactly are you against it and why would it be worth fighting over?

[bint]

i wouldnt marry a white woman :rolleyes:

my sister is marry a white man im against it and am not going to the wedding...i might also fight him:torture:


urgh thats stupid culture spkin..what is that? i cant hear u :rollseyes:white man or blak? wtf whats the difference??? i mean religion is one thing but the race? stop being soo racist!!!

[LiveIslam]

i wouldnt marry a white woman :rolleyes:

my sister is marry a white man im against it and am not going to the wedding...i might also fight him:torture:
stop being racist.

[Yusuf!]

i wouldnt marry a white woman :rolleyes:

my sister is marry a white man im against it and am not going to the wedding...i might also fight him:torture:

if hes a muslim alhamduliah. stop being stoooooopid.

if hes not. fight him.

[PASHTUN WARRIOR]

guys take it easy. that guy nas could be a zionist who pretends to be a muslim so non muslims get a bad picture about islaam. racism is haram in islaam. only the ignorant say that you are black white red yellow. remember, we are all from adam. only ppl that believe in evolution have brought up the concept of racism. allhamdulilah, we know the truth and evolution is for the fools.

[jannah1978]

if hes a muslim alhamduliah. stop being stoooooopid.

if hes not. fight him.

Instead of using your fists would it not be more productive to use your toungue and educate your sister about Islam? If she truely feared Allah and was practising she would seek someone practising.

Would you rather your sister marry a practising Muslim? If she did would it be fair on the practising Muslim brother to be married to a Muslim Sister who is Muslim only by name?

[Yusuf!]

did you not read what i said. IF hes not a muslim. IF. unless you think a muslim girl can marry a kafir

[.: hayat :.]

i'm white (european) and inshaallah i will marry with an arab;)

[almuawak]

i'm white (european) and inshaallah i will marry with an arab;)


White, Yellow, or black european may you be, I just hope you marrying for the right reasons...

Either that or I pray and hope that people just invite your progeny for tea, and never marry from them!

:torture: ... goes on.

:D The cripple.

:) "LOVE is BLIND..."
:rolleyes: "...So is LUST!"

[Freshie]

I Like It Mix Race Idea.. As Long She Is British.

[muslimah85]

my marriage will be a mixed race one :insha:

[Kauthar]

:salams

I would rather marry someone from a different race than mine. The reason is that when you marry someone from your own race, both of you have a similar background in jahilyyah. Hence, there is likely to be pressure from both in-laws for you to engage in that jahilyyah because you are both of the same race. An example of this is mixed wedding parties, and some kinds of kufr and shirk practices in certain cultures which you are made to think are a part of islam.

Alhamdulillah, my parents are more open and would not mind what race I marry so long as the person is a good muslim.

... and Lastly, I would rather NOT marry someone from my race because I've seen loads of backwardness which are in people from my part of the world.

......so long as the person is fluent in Arabic.:D

[Te'oma]

I say that all marriages should be interacial...eventually we would all be beige and there would be no other races :D
Although I suspect that with human nature being what it is eventually some idiot would come up with an argument that "I'm browner then he is so I am better" :p
Nothing makes me rage more then some racist idiot making stupid comments based on colour, religion or any other criteria. An accident of birth made me a mongrel of several races and my children are too. It doesn't make me a better or worse human being then what I am nor does anyone elses race and I have many scars on my knuckles from educating racists about the error of their ways :D

[Emelianenko]

I say that all marriages should be interacial...eventually we would all be beige and there would be no other races :D
Although I suspect that with human nature being what it is eventually some idiot would come up with an argument that "I'm browner then he is so I am better" :p
Nothing makes me rage more then some racist idiot making stupid comments based on colour, religion or any other criteria. An accident of birth made me a mongrel of several races and my children are too. It doesn't make me a better or worse human being then what I am nor does anyone elses race and I have many scars on my knuckles from educating racists about the error of their ways :D Dude..kauthars got u on their avatar :p :rotfl: :rotfl: :D :D

Oh, tell us some stories bout u bumping into racists :p :p

[afrasayab]

Yes, I say it is definatly a good idea. I think it brings tolerance and patience. Although I got burned pretty bad couple of years ago, because I wanted to marry a white revert, but parents never agreed. During the whole ordeal mom passed way and just made it much more difficult. Well I got no choice now, have to marry a pakistani girl (im pakistani btw), not to excited about it though.

I have to admit my culture is very messedup, most of the culture comes from hindus, and even though hindus have changed a bit we are still carrying the old stupid unislamic values. Pretty pathatic, and I am not pround of it.

On a side note, today I read somewhere that according to google, most of the searches on a average basis,for porn material are generated from muslim countries, and Pakistan is the #1!!!

[Te'oma]

Dude..kauthars got u on their avatar :p :rotfl: :rotfl: :D :D

Oh, tell us some stories bout u bumping into racists :p :p

what is kauthars? As for racists...if it get's beyond words I don't usually bump them...I hit them hard :p

[baba]

i did this for my coursework a couple of months ago, so i was wondering what ur views are on mixed race marriages....on a personal level, would you?
Yep I already have :)

[Quest]

i join the ship of mixed raced marriages

::rolleyes: "The world is a buffet, why eat salad only?" Le Gourmand, Chapitre 2

loool am loving this quote

am soon to have french fries & arab sweets mmm (get it ? lol)

[MMS]

Dude..kauthars got u on their avatar :p :rotfl: :rotfl: :D :D

Oh, tell us some stories bout u bumping into racists :p :p

hey thats aunty kauthar to you mate :torture:

[almuawak]

i join the ship of mixed raced marriages



loool am loving this quote

am soon to have french fries & arab sweets mmm (get it ? lol)


:afro:<--- Cripple, exercises his right to be ¿lueless &... on this FRENCH-HALAWA affair!

:scratch: DeeDnOt GET IT!!...

I was born to be suspicious one of my many faults...served me well so far, and I can't complain about my journey...

There is something VICHY about that mmm-armelade.

I safely re¿QUEST... further details!



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[rezza]

I m a product of a mixed marraige...

my dad's an South Asian & mom's an Arab. That makes me South Asian by race.

and my wife's is also a product of mixed marraige. Her dad is an Arab but her mom is from South Asia. Technacillay & cuturally she's more Arab.

And i guess i can say my marraige is mixed too to some extent.

how did they happen to hook up I mean get to know eachother. I knwo someone wanted to marry a khaleeji girl but didnt coz her parents said there are cultural differences between pakistani and a gulfi.

[rezza]

i'm white (european) and inshaallah i will marry with an arab;)

Hmm u dont happen to be a greek. greek girls do like Midddle eastern guys, I refused greek grils too coz they were not interested in islam let alone relegion.

[Abu Noah]

Yep I already have :)


:up::up::up::up:
Me to

[peace+love]

just if love exsists between us ...

[bint]

i think different ethnicity..wud be okay..race,,like am i black cos im asian? :scratch:

[`asiya]

As salamu alaikum wa rahmatullah am i missing something here...it is my understanding and Allah knows best, that as muslims our culture revolves around Islamic activites and Islamic behaviour...what exactly is it that "other" cultures do within the grounds of islamic behaviour and Islamic law that could be so horrendously different so that two muslims of different race could not live together ? I have jamican sons, a brazilian nephew, a chinese step sister, a norweign step mother, with a good few scots irish and gypsys thrown in, none of them are muslims but me, but theyre all able to live together perfectly happily as familly despite these huge "culture gaps" that are supposed to exist. Now if they can do that without the guidance of the perfect deen al Islam,then whats up with us muslims, cant we Unite upon our deen, not divide on percieved "cultural" differences.Allahu alam -as salamu alaikum wa rahmatullah

[Kauthar]

:75: sister you've got such a wunnerful family :D

keep it up :up:

[akhi_ansar]

Its a blessing, and Islam actually encourages it..there are many mixed race marriages and children in the Islamic world, and its beautiful!
Mix-relations create a new identity of culture (which is a good thing and also not so important element) and it uplifts Islamic unity amongst nations!!

im a product of a Venezuelan mother anda Nubian Egyptian Pops...But they both are non-muslim..i reverted a year ago

:allah: hu akabar!!!

*We have to admit, racism is centred in many muslim households due to "CULTURE", and its poisoning our ummah,it stems ignorance, ive seen many ridiculous events where She (sister from a cultured background) cannot marry a brother (froma differnt cultured background) ..because of his race/identity..BOOOOO!!!!!!

[NotOverYet]

i think the only thing that makes it difficult is culture
say if a british black muslim married a british white muslim i dont think race would be a big factor because they share the same culture

whereas if it was a pakistani muslim (who usually come from very cultured families) and a white muslim, race would be a bigger factor because the differences in culture
Afghans had always hated Pakistanis, but My family broke this rule in our (relatives) society, by giving the hand of my sister to a Pakistani from Karachi! so there was no problem for us, although the whole relatives started saying this and that, but for us Alhamdulillah Islam is everything!

[muslim_sis]

As salamu alaikum wa rahmatullah am i missing something here...it is my understanding and Allah knows best, that as muslims our culture revolves around Islamic activites and Islamic behaviour...what exactly is it that "other" cultures do within the grounds of islamic behaviour and Islamic law that could be so horrendously different so that two muslims of different race could not live together ? I have jamican sons, a brazilian nephew, a chinese step sister, a norweign step mother, with a good few scots irish and gypsys thrown in, none of them are muslims but me, but theyre all able to live together perfectly happily as familly despite these huge "culture gaps" that are supposed to exist. Now if they can do that without the guidance of the perfect deen al Islam,then whats up with us muslims, cant we Unite upon our deen, not divide on percieved "cultural" differences.Allahu alam -as salamu alaikum wa rahmatullah
wa alaikum asalam warahmatullahi wabarakatu
i so totally agree with you sister, its sad to know the 'difficulty' some muslims face to BE the ummah (& unite)

[Hasan2004]

Again, "Mixed Cultural marriages" .

I see that this voting has exposed the lack of faith of some.

[RashidD]

I voted yes, but i would consider my family's opinion. Islam doesn't forbid it so i don't see why they should, however if they do disagree with it then i would work towards gaining their trust.

I wouldn't mind at all marrying someone foreign :) I think diversification and integration of cultures is a good thing! I'm not a fan of the 'cultural divide' and think Islamic harmony should prevail :hidban:

EDIT: Is there any way possible for me to change my vote to: Yes, definitely...?

[Jannah123]

I voted yes, but i would consider my family's opinion. Islam doesn't forbid it so i don't see why they should, however if they do disagree with it then i would work towards gaining their trust.

I wouldn't mind at all marrying someone foreign :) I think diversification and integration of cultures is a good thing! I'm not a fan of the 'cultural divide' and think Islamic harmony should prevail :hidban:

EDIT: Is there any way possible for me to change my vote to: Yes,
definitely...?


You said it!

Islam comes first and culture second-as long as what an individual is doing does not contradict with Shari'a, all is good!

[`asiya]

You said it!

Islam comes first and culture second-as long as what an individual is doing does not contradict with Shari'a, all is good!

quite right and In this case muslims having a problem with marrying someone of another race is completely forbidden in Islam, its really nice to see some muslims would work on dispelling their famillies ignorance and upholding the deen of Allah subhanna wa ta ala, Alhamdulillah :up: BarakAllahu feekum amin

[ysmeenaah]

Yea, COURSE I would :D

In fact, I would like to, just cos its uncommon and shows the unity of the Ummah. How regardless of race, background, culture, two people can live together for the rest of thier life living happily with only religion (i.e Islam) being the link between the two. Plus, its good to spread the deen to other parts of the ummah.

Yes, it is healthy to marry inbetween the races. I think this will increase the unity among the Muslim community and build a healthy future for Muslims. Only thing we need to take is to build character and, be practising Muslims

[IslamGurl]

i did this for my coursework a couple of months ago, so i was wondering what ur views are on mixed race marriages....on a personal level, would you?

Of course,I would.
I think the religion is very important than other things.

[Aabirah]

I am in a mixed marriage.
DH is Pakistan and I as American/Polish.

[peaceforall]

Hi Afasayab

I read your post with much interest!

I would not marry anyone because of the "have to" bit - people come from all races, religions, shapes and sizes, and those from forced marriages tell us how they resent the having to and the problems they face! We think about whom we would like to share our lives with, and marry for love. In this day and age, and if you are an adult, I would question the "have to"!

Also, what you read about muslim countries and pornography is quite correct.

Good luck with marriage!

[Abu Noah]

I am in a mixed marriage, I am white English my wife is of Pakistani origin.

There can be problems with mixed marriages particulaly with the climate of fear that we have here is the UK at the moment.

Since the bombs went of in London peoples perceptions have changed.

[MG]

I am in a mixed marriage, I am white English my wife is of Pakistani origin.

There can be problems with mixed marriages particulaly with the climate of fear that we have here is the UK at the moment.

Since the bombs went of in London peoples perceptions have changed.


do u find that your cultural differences cause arguments or are a problem sometimes? (cant think of anything specific) but just in general?

wat difficulties or problems did u find u faced with each others differetn backgrounds?

[Abu Noah]

do u find that your cultural differences cause arguments or are a problem sometimes? (cant think of anything specific) but just in general?

wat difficulties or problems did u find u faced with each others differetn backgrounds?
Our relationship is fine, we dont seem to argue about anything, its mostly other people who have problems with mixed race marriages.

It took a while, 2 years for us to be able to visit my wifes family together, but that is fine now.

Other than that we just get sick of being stared at, it happens in ruff white arrears but mostly in asian areas.

Like i said earlier its gotten worse since the london bombs went off, things are a lot more hostile now, being in a mixed race marriage you can feel the tension from both whites and asians.

[MG]

Our relationship is fine, we dont seem to argue about anything, its mostly other people who have problems with mixed race marriages.

It took a while, 2 years for us to be able to visit my wifes family together, but that is fine now.

Other than that we just get sick of being stared at, it happens in ruff white arrears but mostly in asian areas.

Like i said earlier its gotten worse since the london bombs went off, things are a lot more hostile now, being in a mixed race marriage you can feel the tension from both whites and asians.

thankyou, just wanted abit of an insight.

[neelu]

Like i said earlier its gotten worse since the london bombs went off, things are a lot more hostile now, being in a mixed race marriage you can feel the tension from both whites and asians.

It's at times like these that you find out who your real friends are.

[Ashfarah]

I think there is really no wrong with marrying a non-muslim.. And after guiding our spouse to be, Insyallah.. May Allah Give Guidance to those who is completely believe in ISlam..shouldnt be a problem.. I have a freiend who is a non-muslim.. but He is trying Himself to really convert to Islam why not... I will support for non-muslims to go all the way for Allah sake and pleasure.. because we will get double than staying in this dunya.. Insyallah..Amin..Amin..

[islamirama]

I think there is really no wrong with marrying a non-muslim.. And after guiding our spouse to be, Insyallah.. May Allah Give Guidance to those who is completely believe in ISlam..shouldnt be a problem.. I have a freiend who is a non-muslim.. but He is trying Himself to really convert to Islam why not... I will support for non-muslims to go all the way for Allah sake and pleasure.. because we will get double than staying in this dunya.. Insyallah..Amin..Amin..

Nothing wrong with marrying non-Muslim at all, so long as that non-Muslim is from the people of the book (christians and jews) and you are a MAN. BUT your obligation is to marry from the Muslim women first if there's a shortage of men or the muslim women are having hard time finding muslim men. Once that is not the issue (which it is in the west) then you can marry from people of the book. Even than as a Muslim man you have to find a chaste pure good woman from them, not one that sleeps around and is immoral or something. Good luck finding a girl that doesn't date or didn't loose her virginity at age 13 if not younger.

As for Muslim woman, she is to marry ONLY a Muslim man. If she marrys a non-Muslim than her marriage is INVALID and she is living in a state of zina (fornication) and her kids will be bastards. Says who? says Allah and His Messenger *S*.

[Somali 18]

Asalaamu Caleykum

As Muslims we are Brothers and Sisters, It doesn't muther
witch race ore colour one person is as long this person is Muslim, Alhamdulillah.
I would marriage me with allkind of muslim girls,
Ps: as long as they practise they reigion, don't do haram things.
Insha Allah.
I never churge people after race ore how they look like, Alhamdulillah.

Wasalam!

[Maureen]

Nothing wrong with marrying non-Muslim at all, so long as that non-Muslim is from the people of the book (christians and jews) and you are a MAN. BUT your obligation is to marry from the Muslim women first if there's a shortage of men or the muslim women are having hard time finding muslim men. Once that is not the issue (which it is in the west) then you can marry from people of the book. Even than as a Muslim man you have to find a chaste pure good woman from them, not one that sleeps around and is immoral or something. Good luck finding a girl that doesn't date or didn't loose her virginity at age 13 if not younger.

As for Muslim woman, she is to marry ONLY a Muslim man. If she marrys a non-Muslim than her marriage is INVALID and she is living in a state of zina (fornication) and her kids will be bastards. Says who? says Allah and His Messenger *S*.
Personally, I would only marry someone who is of the same faith as myself. Race does not matter.
Interesting the bit you said about finding a woman who is chaste and not slept aound.... I wonder where a female finds a male with these qualities? Not easily, I can tell you.

[`asiya]

Personally, I would only marry someone who is of the same faith as myself. Race does not matter.
Interesting the bit you said about finding a woman who is chaste and not slept aound.... I wonder where a female finds a male with these qualities? Not easily, I can tell you.

This is the point maureen, as you said faith is very important, they have to be true christians and true jews, those who follow the teachings of their books, and fornication outside marriage or letting a man even touch you or kiss you, is something forbidden for christians and jews alike. Hence Allah says in the Quran only those who are chaste from the christians and jews. Muslim women cannot marry christian or jewish men becuase they wouldnt be treated properly because Allah has given so so many rights to women, rights that women in the west dont even enjoy today, and in many cases rights that western women have only had for the last 50 years. Muslims whether male or female also are ordered to be chaste before marriage, and that goes for men and women with no exceptions.

[islamirama]

Personally, I would only marry someone who is of the same faith as myself. Race does not matter.
Interesting the bit you said about finding a woman who is chaste and not slept aound.... I wonder where a female finds a male with these qualities? Not easily, I can tell you.
I agree with you, religion plays a bigger role in people's life than their race.

The bible and Torah both tells the people to be chaste and mindful of God and to keep pure. The christians used to view sex as a sin and filthy when the puritans came to America. Dating initially started out as social gathering and mingling for the young adults to get to know each other and purpose and then get married and then have sex. Today soon as kids hit puberty, it's time to find a bf/gf and kids are having sex at early as 9yrs old. Now what purpose does dating serve at this age, do they really plan to find their mate and get married now?

And to answer your question, there's lot of chaste people out there, even in the west. Lot of girls are practicing abstinence in the US and i'm sure there are guys out there too, maybe not as much. And yes its hard to find them in the west the Sex sells everywhere from tv to fashion to magazines. Peer pressure alone is the biggest contributor to these youngsters. When you have a culture and society that promotes premarital relationships and sex then it's hard to not do it.

and more often then not, we are a product of our own society.

[neelu]

she is living in a state of zina (fornication) and her kids will be bastards. Says who? says Allah and His Messenger *S*.

I take issue with this statement. Admittedly a Muslim woman who marries a non Muslim, such a marriage is not recognised, but do you have any evidence to suggest that Allah (swt) or his messenger (saw) would call their children 'bastards'? If so, I'd like to see it. If not, then I suggest you retract the statement.

[Nas]

guys take it easy. that guy nas could be a zionist who pretends to be a muslim so non muslims get a bad picture about islaam. racism is haram in islaam. only the ignorant say that you are black white red yellow. remember, we are all from adam. only ppl that believe in evolution have brought up the concept of racism. allhamdulilah, we know the truth and evolution is for the fools.

im no zionist...the total oppossite...

im muslim....:rolleyes:

so non muslims can get a bad picture of Islam?? I think muslims have already done enough already to do that:rolleyes:

[islamirama]

I take issue with this statement. Admittedly a Muslim woman who marries a non Muslim, such a marriage is not recognised, but do you have any evidence to suggest that Allah (swt) or his messenger (saw) would call their children 'bastards'? If so, I'd like to see it. If not, then I suggest you retract the statement.

Muslimah marrying a kuffar

The marriage of a Muslim woman to a kaafir, no matter what his religion, is invalid according to sharee’ah and their intimacy is tantamount to fornication. They must be separated, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And do not marry Al-Mushrikaat (idolatresses) till they believe (worship Allaah Alone). And indeed a slave woman who believes is better than a (free) Mushrikah (idolatress), even though she pleases you. And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al-Mushrikoon till they believe (in Allaah Alone) and verily, a believing slave is better than a (free) Mushrik (idolater), even though he pleases you. Those (Al-Mushrikoon) invite you to the Fire, but Allaah invites (you) to Paradise and forgiveness by His Leave” [al-Baqarah 2:221]

And Allaah says, stating that the Muslim women are not permissible in marriage for kaafir men (interpretation of the meaning):

“They are not lawful (wives) for the disbelievers nor are the disbelievers lawful (husbands) for them” [al-Mumtahanah 60:10]

Al-Qurtubi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in his book al-Jaami’ li Ahkaam al-Qur’aan (3/72): The ummah is unanimously agreed that a kaafir man cannot marry a Muslim woman at all because that undermines the position of Islam.

islam-qa.com

[Definition of Bastard: A child born out of wedlock, Born of unwed parents; illegitimate.]

And thus based on the above, marriage to a kuffar is invalid. She lives in state of fornication. Any child she bears is illegitimate because her marraige is not recognized by Allah nor His dean. so by the very definition, the child born out of wedlock is a bastard.


Children: Rights of an illegitimate child

May I ask the responsibilities of a man who has a child born to him by an illegitimate relationship? What are the rights of the child? Does the man have to marry the mother? If so, does she need her father's permission to marry him? What about financial support to the child and how far is the father responsible to provide Islamic education to the child?

When a Muslim commits a sin, particularly one which is punishable by a specific punishment, he should not publicize what he has done. Publicity is an additional sin. If he makes a confession of what he had done, the punishment prescribed by Allah must be enforced. To make such a confession is permissible, but the Prophet teaches us that a person who commits a sin should not lift the mantle with which Allah has covered it. Therefore, a person who commits adultery should not publicize that. If he has a child born to him illegitimately and he marries the mother of the child, no one will ask him about the legitimacy of the child.

The relationship between an illegitimate child and his father is broken. That means that neither the child nor the father have any rights or duties toward each other. The two are like strangers. This means that the child does not have the right to be supported by the father, but equally the father cannot require the child to be dutiful to him.

However, the family relationship between the child and his mother is perfectly established and should be observed. The child has all the rights which any child claims from his mother, and so does she from him. He inherits her and she inherits him in the normal way. He must be dutiful to her and she has to support him.

You ask whether a man should or must marry the mother of his illegitimate child. There is an important rule included in Verse 3 of Surah 24 which states: "An adulterous man may only marry an adulterous woman or one who associates partners with Allah; while an adulterous woman may only be married to an adulterous man or one who associates partners with Allah. This is forbidden to believers." Therefore, one may not marry a partner who practices adultery or takes it lightly. If a man or a woman is known to do so, it is not permissible for a Muslim to marry him or her. It is only when such a person repents of his or her past conduct and resolves not to do it again that he or she may be married to a Muslim. In the light of the foregoing, if the man has repented of his sin, he may marry the woman if she has also repented. If both feel that they have done wrong and they want to live a proper life, obeying Allah and his messenger, they may get married and the man is recommended to help the woman keep her error a secret and bring up the child normally.

The marriage of such a woman is the same as the marriage of any other woman. In Islam, she must have her father or guardian present at her marriage.

It is needless to say that every child is entitled to be given proper Islamic education. How else could the father expect the child to avoid the sin which he himself has been guilty of?

http://www.ourdialogue.com/c6.htm#3

[MsWesterner]

Islamirama
My precious son was born to an unwed mother who was unable to give him the life he deserved, and we adopted him.
He is the most sincere, loving and responsible young man.
What should I think about the morality of anybody, even a prophet, who would call him "a bastard" or even think that, when it is such a derogatory term.

But I see by the teachings, a marriage would make all the difference, and he would not be "a bastard" even if he turned out to be a real poor specimen of a human being.

mmmmm .... why do I get disturbed with religion?

[Te'oma]

Islamirama
My precious son was born to an unwed mother who was unable to give him the life he deserved, and we adopted him.
He is the most sincere, loving and responsible young man.
What should I think about the morality of anybody, even a prophet, who would call him "a bastard" or even think that, when it is such a derogatory term.

But I see by the teachings, a marriage would make all the difference, and he would not be "a bastard" even if he turned out to be a real poor specimen of a human being.

mmmmm .... why do I get disturbed with religion?

LOL, my grandmother used to go bullistic if anyone dared to call me a bastard even though I was one. As she said, the perentage of the child is not his fault, the fault belongs with the parents and he wouldn't be alive if God didn't want him.

[islamirama]

Islamirama
My precious son was born to an unwed mother who was unable to give him the life he deserved, and we adopted him.
He is the most sincere, loving and responsible young man.
What should I think about the morality of anybody, even a prophet, who would call him "a bastard" or even think that, when it is such a derogatory term.

But I see by the teachings, a marriage would make all the difference, and he would not be "a bastard" even if he turned out to be a real poor specimen of a human being.

mmmmm .... why do I get disturbed with religion?

Yea the nice way to say is "illegitimate" child, the negative connotation is saying "bastard" but if you look up the definition, they both mean the same thing. A child born outside of wedlock is called just that. If you don't like the world blame your english language. The child is pure and innocent, it's not his fault for being born in that state. The parents are at fault here. I purposely used the word Bastard to show evil and impureness related to this act and the way the child was brought to this world. A child needs a mother to give him/her love and chare and a father to provide for him/her and give him/her his name and identity in this world.

I can use the nice word or the mean and "deragtory" word, i choose to select the latter one. It's a sinful act that is all to common in the west, there so many sinlgle mothers in the west that its just mind boggling for anyone to believe such a thing is that common. Muslims and non-Muslims in the east are bit more conservative and are not much slave to their desires that they go have sex and kids without going thru marraige first.

You can judge other people and their faiths, at the end its just your opinion and no body cares what you think. The facts are facts. We dont' say its ok nor we play it down this impure and sinful act, we care for the child and his well being more than you which is why we abhor such illicit relationships for the safety and the future of the child. Your people just care about filling your own desires not caring about the results of your actions. Says alot about your people and society, doesn't it? So please don't judge others till you clean up your society which represents all that is immoral and indecent.

Why do you non-Muslims always like to pick the bad stuff out and dwell on that as if you're the only good people on earth. Unwed kids are illegtimate no matter how you feel about that. The act itself is unacceptable but that doesn't mean the child too is unacceptable.

Have you seen the movie or red the book "the scarlet leter" the single mother and her child are ostracized from the community and she lives her life with her child as outcasts and forced to live poorly if the mother's daddy isn't wealthy enough to fend for her. Her and her child's life becomes miserable. The child is taunted by other kids and looked at disgustedingly by the adults of the community. The child is treated like the mother as if he/she too commited some horrendous crime.

Now compare that to Islam, see how regardless of the act how islam still gives Rights to an illegitimate child, look back because you surely missed that part of the post since you were to busy dwelling on the word "bastard"

[`asiya]

Islamirama
My precious son was born to an unwed mother who was unable to give him the life he deserved, and we adopted him.
He is the most sincere, loving and responsible young man.
What should I think about the morality of anybody, even a prophet, who would call him "a bastard" or even think that, when it is such a derogatory term.

But I see by the teachings, a marriage would make all the difference, and he would not be "a bastard" even if he turned out to be a real poor specimen of a human being.

mmmmm .... why do I get disturbed with religion?

The prophet Muhammad salallahu alleyhi wa salam, did not ever use this term for an illigitamate child. The position of Islam in regards to children born out of wedlock, even in the event of rape, is that they are muslim children, and they are to be taken care of as are the orphans (anyone who has no father is an orphan in Islam that would inlcude the illigitimate child as he is not called after his father, but only his mother as they were unmarried) and there is no sin or blame or any kind of derogatory term to be used for such children, nor are they "looked down on" . No child bears the sins of their father.no person bears the sins of another in Islam full stop.

[MsWesterner]

Thanks ur sister.....I was actually going by the last sentence in post # 116, and it says who says...Allah says.
Children are certainly born innocent and worthy of love and protection, I agree.

[`asiya]

As for Muslim woman, she is to marry ONLY a Muslim man. If she marrys a non-Muslim than her marriage is INVALID and she is living in a state of zina (fornication) and her kids will be bastards. Says who? says Allah and His Messenger *S*.


yes i see it on the post, i think its just the way its been worded, the b word is the authors own. what it means is that a woman who marries a non muslim man, her marriage is invalid.

It is not permissible for a woman to marry a non muslim because she would not be given the rights afforded to her by Almighty Allah, and by which all muslim men have to live in order to obey Allah the almighty,a christian or jewish woman must be given these rights by their muslims husbands in full also.

The child born out of marriage would be illigitimate but that is not an issue for the innocent child, only as issue for the parents in terms of their punishments etc for trangressing against the orders of Allah the almighty.

Ms westerner always remember that Islam is based on proof not conjecture, so if someone tells u Allah or his messenger says so, then ask for the proof from the Quran or authentic sunnah, if it cant be provided then chances are its not from Islam.

[-Jibril-]

I found that such marriages actually work, ya'ni, the mixed race marriages, but thats only if both parties are willing to accomodate each others needs and so on, like a white sister understanding, her Asian husband will most probably have a taste for rice and curry, and the Asian brother will have to understand that the sister may be into sushi or what not! Now before anyone jumps on me, I'd like to say its only an example, I'm an Asian and I'd rather eat pasta than curry.

Bottom line being, its the qadr of Allah, and nobody can make the allegation that a divorce only takes place because the couple were not practising Islam properly.
The sahaaba were the best generation, yet they had to go through divorces, is this a standard to judge that they were immoral men?

Anyway, I'm all for mixed race marriages, in fact, I'm seriously thinking of not marrying someone from my race.
Think it would be a lot easier for me to marry a revert who is not going to come with all that cultural baggage.

Wallahu A'lam

[`asiya]

I found that such marriages actually work, ya'ni, the mixed race marriages, but thats only if both parties are willing to accomodate each others needs and so on, like a white sister understanding, her Asian husband will most probably have a taste for rice and curry, and the Asian brother will have to understand that the sister may be into sushi or what not! Now before anyone jumps on me, I'd like to say its only an example, I'm an Asian and I'd rather eat pasta than curry.

Bottom line being, its the qadr of Allah, and nobody can make the allegation that a divorce only takes place because the couple were not practising Islam properly.
The sahaaba were the best generation, yet they had to go through divorces, is this a standard to judge that they were immoral men?

Anyway, I'm all for mixed race marriages, in fact, I'm seriously thinking of not marrying someone from my race.
Think it would be a lot easier for me to marry a revert who is not going to come with all that cultural baggage.

Wallahu A'lam

alhamdulillah we have divorce, its not always because ppl arent following islam, sometimes the people are just of a different nature and not compatible, either way u have to be islamic about it all and be nice to each other even in divorce :D and anyway all that sterotyping is a problem look the bro says hes asian,but prefers pasta, im english hate pasta and can only cook asian food cant cook anything "british" and i only grew up with with folks, so there you go, blows all stereotyping out the window eh

[-Jibril-]

Hey, who said I hate curry? I love the stuff, well, kind of, but yeah, pasta is just from jannah, yum!

As regards to mixed marriages:
I say go for it, nothing to lose, everything to gain!
A great wife/husband who'll teach you about a different culture, teach you a new language (so you can show off at work!), food from two different cultures, and think how smart, your children are going to be!
Growing up tri-lingual, getting the strongest genes from you both, and most importantly, not having to grow up with all that ridiculous cultural baggage that we had to grow up with.

I guess its just what the individual prefers actually.

Wallahu A'lam

[`asiya]

Hey, who said I hate curry?

errrr ...no one :rubeyes: unless my eyes need testing :scratch:

[cinderellaaa]

it,s depends on the person himself if u love him and he was muslim so u can marry him what ever his race was 4m ..

[Nusayba]

Bismilah
Asalamalaikum 2 all

Well I am Somali Girl & My handsome hubby is IrishAmerican:) :inlove:
Although alot of people mistake him for syrian or something because he has dark hair & bright green eyes.

When Love hits the heart....nothing else matters, other then being in the arms of ur loved one...whether he be white/black/chinese or eskimo..It doesn't matter:up: ;)

[Makki]

yup im fervently in favour of people marrying outside their ethnic group, in fact im more in favour of mixed-race marriages than i am of ethnocentric marriages.

when the human race is the same colour there will be no racism.

of course there will be less variety but id rather loose racism than variety.

[alld]

Reaaaall Muslims have capacity and courage to overcome all obstacles as both partners are submitting to Allah swt :)

[rania500]

i actually want to marry someone who is a different race than me.

[meer]

i actually want to marry someone who is a different race than me.

I Think it's not easy to marry. A person who's is different race from you unless you want to change yourself as he is?

[zaki]

I Think it's not easy to marry. A person who's is different race from you unless you want to change yourself as he is?

everyone as a right to marry the one they want inshallah whether its different race, colour or culture apart from family of course, if they are both muslim then there shouldnt be any changes needed :)

[`asiya]

tell me what is it that people of other races do that is so different from you? we are all muslims our culture is Islam, where is the problem?

[meer]

tell me what is it that people of other races do that is so different from you? we are all muslims our culture is Islam, where is the problem?

Ya sister is telling correct almost all the muslims same living style which shows in Islam No matter what race He/She bought up

[Maya.G]

tell me what is it that people of other races do that is so different from you? we are all muslims our culture is Islam, where is the problem?

Mashallah i totally agree with u sister..subhanAllah i would love to get married to a person from a different back-ground than i am so inshaAllah some1 will pop up someday..:up:

i think holding on the religion and its teachings rather than the cultural ideas is much better and healthier for muslims..

[RashidD]

Ameen :) Agreed 100% Unfortunately not all parents think that way...

[Lost_Princess]

culture plays a big part in islam especially in marriage i woul love to marry someone with a different race mainly because im so sick of my own race (not in a bad way)and their food lol it would be nice to experience something different:D:p;)

[zaki]

culture plays a big part in islam especially in marriage i woul love to marry someone with a different race mainly because im so sick of my own race (not in a bad way)and their food lol it would be nice to experience something different:D:p;)

what you said is kinda the same to what the sister I would like to marry said to me hehe

[Lost_Princess]

what you said is kinda the same to what the sister I would like to marry said to me hehe

lol but i wouldnt mind if i got someone from the same race but id perfer someone that isnt:) so that means u got rejected :banghead: lol nah im jking poor thing go bak and tell her ur chinese or indian lol :D she might accept lol :rotfl: :rofl1:

[alld]

culture plays a big part in islam especially in marriage i woul love to marry someone with a different race mainly because im so sick of my own race (not in a bad way)and their food lol it would be nice to experience something different:D:p;)

JUST for food :) haha :D better try different restaurants :rolleyes:

BTW marriage is no joke ....it is serious matter.

[$HugoBoss$]

Well i'm mixed, half Portuguese and Indian and i don't think there's anything wrong with marrying someone from another culture :D. There is a condition though and something that nobody has shed light on and that is the different islamic sects. With all do respect i'm a sunni muslim and i can and would only marry another sunni muslim, thats the only barrier i see in marrying someone from another culture. :argue:

Sunni's do not marry shia's and vice versa. So when most of you say it's alright to marry someone out of your culture as long as they're muslim why isn't this taken into consideration???? There are many pieces to the puzzle when marrying outside of your culture but as the puzzle is simplified the variables seem to be quiet overwhelming. :rolleyes:

[alld]

tell me what is it that people of other races do that is so different from you? we are all muslims our culture is Islam, where is the problem?

well sister i have no reason to disagree with you :)
If both partners are really willing to submit to Allah swt then InshaAllah there will be no problem even in mixed race marriages .

[Lost_Princess]

JUST for food :) haha :D better try different restaurants :rolleyes:

BTW marriage is no joke ....it is serious matter.

u misunderstood wat i was saying
i said that im sick of my cultures food its so boring and fatening its always lacking in salt or oil as my mum and dad love their salt and oil so most of the week i eat out at subway:(

and who said it was a joke ;)

[Lost_Princess]

Well i'm mixed, half Portuguese and Indian and i don't think there's anything wrong with marrying someone from another culture :D. There is a condition though and something that nobody has shed light on and that is the different islamic sects. With all do respect i'm a sunni muslim and i can and would only marry another sunni muslim, thats the only barrier i see in marrying someone from another culture. :argue:

Sunni's do not marry shia's and vice versa. So when most of you say it's alright to marry someone out of your culture as long as they're muslim why isn't this taken into consideration???? There are many pieces to the puzzle when marrying outside of your culture but as the puzzle is simplified the variables seem to be quiet overwhelming. :rolleyes:

who cares if they are sunni shia aliwiah they are all muslim im sunni and would love to marry someone sunni but if i get married to someone who isnt then i would teach my kids by the quran and the prophets way that way their is no probs btween me and that dude lol:) but i guess it up to u :)

[imeg.org]

In the Name of Allâh, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
As Salaam-u-Alaikum


There are many things to look, specially the communication between two partners, if you can find some one religious, pious, honest, care, ..... so on.. then i think it really dont matter which culture he/she is from, but marring to sunni and shia, i think you have to research more about shia and sunnis, there are big differences, which can fraustrat a person, if there spouse is doing it and they think its "right" to do, which happens to be wronge, just like muttah (temporary mirrrage).

You have to see background of a person, differences between you both, the things that attract you guys togather and how much compromiseing is the other person is, cause in marriage you have to do lots of compromising, but not islamic compromizing, but other as you or your spouse do or react on stuff. "no one is perfect" and we should try to follow prophet (pbuh) ways, he was the best example for us to be and we should treat our wifes in the same manner and wifes should treat there husband.

There are many "religious/hafiz/alim" brothers, who actually beat there wifes and abuse them and might even do some haraam things, which he knows its wronge.

There are many "religious/hafiz/alim" sisters, who actually treat there husband improper manners and just ruain there lifes, by trying to control and there are many other reason's...

khiar just remember, if you want to be treated well, then treat your supose well and if he/she treat you well, then remember it, so it will help you in bad days and it will keep your relationship more stronger insha'Allah


Wa Salaam-Alaikum

[EmHachem]

I am an Italian American woman. My husband is Lebanese (arab). As far as skin color we both look white, even though he always checks the asian box on questionaires. The hardest part of our marriage isnt religion, race, it would have to be cultural differences. He grew up in a very male dominated conservative world. His mother was a stay at home mom and raised 6 kids while dad puts food on the table.
My mom was a feminist runs the household works in management and dad only speaks when spoken too (not really but close)

[neels]

The prophet Muhammad salallahu alleyhi wa salam, did not ever use this term for an illigitamate child. The position of Islam in regards to children born out of wedlock, even in the event of rape, is that they are muslim children, and they are to be taken care of as are the orphans (anyone who has no father is an orphan in Islam that would inlcude the illigitimate child as he is not called after his father, but only his mother as they were unmarried) and there is no sin or blame or any kind of derogatory term to be used for such children, nor are they "looked down on" . No child bears the sins of their father.no person bears the sins of another in Islam full stop.

Thank you, I've gotta rep you for that. Islamirama, putting it mildly, the article you pasted was contradictory in nature, there is sunnah evidence to contradict it which makes me wonder where it came from and it showed no Islamic evidence to support calling innocent children by cruel and derogatory names! Saying that 'bastard' is merely a definition is no excuse. If a Muslim sister was slightly overweight, would you accept someone calling her a fat paki? Would you accept that "it's only a definition, so there's no need to take offence?".

Fornication/adulterous relationships are haraam and have no legitimacy in Islam, I'd be the first to accept that, but I refuse to accept that this means young children are fair game where nasty name calling is concerned and you've still yet to show any evidence that this is accepted Islamic practice.

[Torn.Rose]

I just have to say that being a white revert, i have to totally agree with mixed race marriages.

I think in our day and age, it is toltally acceptable, the only boundaries are the ones that are put there by the older generation who think you have to stick to your own kind.

I know my family will be unhappy with whoever i marry as they know he will have to be Muslim and the thought of me getting married scares them even tho they know that i am muslim. I would however like to marry a guy from a different culture to my own. the only thing that would botther me is that he would need to be practising, of good character and has a family around that would support us as i strongly feel that when you have children(insha'Allah) it is important for them to also have an extended family around them.

[jimm]

does marying Natalie Portman count as a 'mixed marriage'?

[Lost_Princess]

does marying Natalie Portman count as a 'mixed marriage'?

i dont think so and she is so ugly soory i had to say it :)
she's a celebrity and ur not i dont think ull be on her list of single bacherlor lol

[sadf]

I wouldn't get mixed raced marriage, bcos once I went to edgware road, and this arab sister looked at me with such contempt, as if I'm nothing, she basically screwed me for no reason at all and that really upset me, bcos we r meant to be brothers and sisters in Islam, and their have been other incidents where I have been treated badly by arab women, like when I worked as a security guard down oxford circus, they looked at me as im a working class tramp, I bet this post will be removed, even though, im speaking the haq.

[bint]

not all arab women are like that :D

[.: Anna :.]

Sadf how do you know this was because of ur ethnicity? you do seem to have a chip on ur shoulder!

[Te'oma]

I still say that mixed marriage should be mandatory. After a couple of generations we would all be beige and there would be nothing left to argue about :D

[`asiya]

I still say that mixed marriage should be mandatory. After a couple of generations we would all be beige and there would be nothing left to argue about :D

absolutely :up:

[muslim_sis]

I still say that mixed marriage should be mandatory. After a couple of generations we would all be beige and there would be nothing left to argue about :D
lol yeh !!

[muslim_sis]

I wouldn't get mixed raced marriage, bcos once I went to edgware road, and this arab sister looked at me with such contempt, as if I'm nothing, she basically screwed me for no reason at all and that really upset me, bcos we r meant to be brothers and sisters in Islam, and their have been other incidents where I have been treated badly by arab women, like when I worked as a security guard down oxford circus, they looked at me as im a working class tramp, I bet this post will be removed, even though, im speaking the haq.
what ur saying is quite childish ... one person , or even 50 people froma a certain background doesnt speak for the rest of them .. in every culture/nation/race there are good and bad ... we have muslims, there are good of us and bad us , and there are all different backgrounds within the muslim culture so the reason why u feel liek that is prob coz ur not taking islam , as number 1 ... thats our cultue... why do we always look at others faults , we have to look at ourself first, take our self to accoun before we are taken to account ... its so pety to make such comments ... do u seriously think that one race is perfect ... PERFECTION IS ONLY TO ALLAH ... u can be from anywhere in the world and be practising Islam !

[sadf]

No its not sister, cos I got friends who feel the same way, all you hear on the news is about palestine, irak and lebanon, as if their the only muslims in this world, im entitled to my opinion, go down edgware road u will see, its not childish.

[sadf]

just bcos I prefer to marry a Pakistani sister, does not make me childish, I wouldn't want to marry with a white, black or arab women, I prefer to marry from my country.

[muslim_sis]

just bcos I prefer to marry a Pakistani sister, does not make me childish, I wouldn't want to marry with a white, black or arab women, I prefer to marry from my country.
i didnt say that theres anything with having a preferance ... the prophet said to marry for four things, deen , beauty, wealth and family lineage.

u think its aceptable coz ur friends say the same thing , thats a new one ... a muslim is the one who follows the prophet (saw), teachings of Islam, not friends ... but then again we have to chose our friends carefully because of what? the prophet (saw) said u are on the deen of ur friends, meaning that if u are in their company u will be on what they are on. [thats a whole other topic] ...

but anyway .. u hear about iraq lebanon palestine etc , AND WHAT !? the media is the media , whats that got to do with it , ur just drawing a new picture , stick to what ur saying... u said u wudnt like a mixed race marriage BECAUSE an arab woman screwed u ... so where u from , assuming ur asian ... an asian has never committed a crime ? an asian has never gave a person a dirty ? and arabs are all bad ... ur then judging a person by the qadr , that they have been created or a different race etc , Allah created all people what u tryna say , that Allah favoured ur race people ... naaah mate u got it wrong , really wrong ... the colour of ur skin doesnt make ur personality ... yes stereotypes are made , but thats not fair ... Allah created us all ... no one whether black or white is going to enter jannah before the other due to their colour or their background, whether , arab , asian , white ... check ur facts bro ... and please dont change ur story ... humbleness should be part of a muslims character[YES,AFRICAN MUSLIMS, YES WHITE MUSLIMS,YES ARAB MUSLIMS, YES ASIAN MUSLIMS AND ALL MUSLIMS] ...

[Abu Noah]

just bcos I prefer to marry a Pakistani sister, does not make me childish, I wouldn't want to marry with a white, black or arab women, I prefer to marry from my country.


what about India,

they used to be the same country untill the british divided them, would u marry an Indian ?

[`asiya]

just bcos I prefer to marry a Pakistani sister, does not make me childish, I wouldn't want to marry with a white, black or arab women, I prefer to marry from my country.

i see... and what would u have to say if a white man said the same? that preffered that he only married whites remember ....adolf hitler....ringing any bells ? if you are a muslim then loose your nationalism we are all brothers and sisters and race does not matter u want to share jannah with your brothers and sisters but u dont want to marry people of a different race so what are you going to do ask Allah ta ala for your own little space in jannah for ex pakistanis of earth only....:rolleyes:

i suggest anyone whoose having a race issue has a little listen to this lecture insha Allah some food for thought..

http://www.audioislam.com/index.php?subcategory=Manners

scroll down to the lectures by Abu Shuaib Ashmead Choat "racisim amongst muslims" parts one and two .....

[.: Anna :.]

Brother that is dispicable... you begrudge the Arab muslims air time to bring attention to their oppression and suffering, just because they are not Pakistani. How petty could one get!!!! Could I remind you that the Ummah is one, when one part hurts... the whole ummah should be hurting for that part. Its undeniable, the middle East is in a fairly bad state with alot of suffering of the Muslims at the hands of the Israelis aswell as American, Britain etc. Afghanistan also, which is in Asia but never have I heard an Arab Muslim, or any Muslim say "they are on the tv too much" and feeling what comes accross like jealousy because of this. Astaghfirullah. Bro you have really sickened me.

[typical asian]

I wouldn't get mixed raced marriage, bcos once I went to edgware road, and this arab sister looked at me with such contempt, as if I'm nothing, she basically screwed me for no reason at all and that really upset me, bcos we r meant to be brothers and sisters in Islam, and their have been other incidents where I have been treated badly by arab women, like when I worked as a security guard down oxford circus, they looked at me as im a working class tramp, I bet this post will be removed, even though, im speaking the haq.
do you have beard sadf? because if you are looking like a kuffar then no wonder people give you strange look

[scribble]

Salaams.

Uhuh, I have nothing against interracial marriages, as long as their Muslim, I have no problem, deen is the most important thing anyway. :D

[sadf]

sister anna I don't really care about your opinion, I spend most of time with my own people or helping in my old mans business, I'm not really interested if I sicken you sister anna, thats your problem, why do your people always think that ppl care about your opinions, culture.

[sadf]

I never said I begrudge arab, all I said is I wouldn't marry one, nor would the ppl in my family, no one in my family has married outside their culture, and im going to continue this.

[nami]

I never said I begrudge arab, all I said is I wouldn't marry one, nor would the ppl in my family, no one in my family has married outside their culture, and im going to continue this.

i USED to feel the same way. if only my parents wouldn't disown me for it. :rolleyes:

[.: Anna :.]

sister anna I don't really care about your opinion, I spend most of time with my own people or helping in my old mans business, I'm not really interested if I sicken you sister anna, thats your problem, why do your people always think that ppl care about your opinions, culture.:rolleyes: your attitude is a disgrace to the muslim community. May Allah guide you and remove ur arrogance.

[`asiya]

I never said I begrudge arab, all I said is I wouldn't marry one, nor would the ppl in my family, no one in my family has married outside their culture, and im going to continue this.

so whens the racisim going to end if you didnt get rid of this jahil idea in your family yet, when you have all had more than 1400 years to do so !?

when will someone in your family be man enough to say no we dont beleive in culture we beleive in Islam from Allah ta ala and his messenger salallahu alleyhi wa salam ! we are muslims this is not the way of Islam!

be man enough to be the first to speak the haq in your family in this regard, make duaa for guidance from Allah ta ala, may Allah guide you all amin.

[`asiya]

i USED to feel the same way. if only my parents wouldn't disown me for it. :rolleyes:

may Allah ta ala guide them and all racist cultural "muslims" amin

[muslim_sis]

sister anna I don't really care about your opinion, I spend most of time with my own people or helping in my old mans business, I'm not really interested if I sicken you sister anna, thats your problem, why do your people always think that ppl care about your opinions, culture.
ameen to 'ur sister's dua

what do u mean by 'your people' ... i guess u mean muslims mashallah alhamdulilah ... and u should care, its ur sister in islam showing u something from islam , yet u are behaving in such a jahil manner not accepting when the right is sooo clear from the wrong ...

i dont think ur making a point , ur just making up different things everytime ... accept it, Allah told us in the Quran that he has created into different nations and tribes that we may get to know one another [im sure many will have the actual quote, surah and verse] ... my point is , its fine to have a preferation , but ur petty comments about our bro/sis suffering around the world is really unrational , why do u make such a barrier between different races , we are brothers and sisters , the barrier is between the ones who practise islam and those who dont , BUT only Allah knows himself who has more emaan than another , so we are no one to judge

astaghfirallah authubillah

[nami]

may Allah ta ala guide them and all racist cultural "muslims" amin

AMEEN!!! :D

[dour]

If I fell in love with the right lady, she was the right person, and she loved me in return, and we wanted to spend our lives together, I would marry her no matter what race or religion they followed may that be Islam, jewish, athiest or whatever.

[TEH]

And lemme guess, she wont be with you when you die, BUT SHE WILL ALWAYS BE IN YOUR HEART RIGHT?

:1popcorn:

[alld]

If I fell in love with the right lady, she was the right person, and she loved me in return, and we wanted to spend our lives together, I would marry her no matter what race or religion they followed may that be Islam, jewish, athiest or whatever.

Muslims are prohibited to marry disbelievers.

[mara]

If I fell in love with the right lady, she was the right person, and she loved me in return, and we wanted to spend our lives together, I would marry her no matter what race or religion they followed may that be Islam, jewish, athiest or whatever.
This is a beautiful answer:)Love beyond interests..only love:inlove:

[alld]

This is a beautiful answer:)Love beyond interests..only love:inlove:

SORRY ...just flow with the currents even if the currents gone to drown us .:D

[mara]

SORRY ...just flow with the currents even if the currents gone to drown us .:D
The shared love never drown the in love persons. Only resqued them from a boring life:) Its magical and only a few people are ment to know true love. Some others dies without to know it:(

[alld]

The shared love never drown the in love persons. Only resqued them from a boring life:) Its magical and only a few people are ment to know true love. Some others dies without to know it:(

Why is that true love is not availabble within your own co-relegionists :D

[scribble]

The shared love never drown the in love persons. Only resqued them from a boring life:) Its magical and only a few people are ment to know true love. Some others dies without to know it:(

Salaam.

Ah, love. Such bliss. :inlove: lol. :D :p