sunni and shia marriage question?

[ali5401]

Salaam Bros and Sisters

I have a question regarding sunni and shia .. quite recently met a young girl with the view to marriage a few days ago told me she was a shia.. I then told her I was looking for only a sunni muslim and not shia.. I was always under the impression that shias dont say the kalma and dont beleive in our beloved prohpet muhammed pbuh to be the last ... But she said they do say the kalma and they beleive in the quran and muhammed pbuh .. which then brings me to my question what is the difference between shia and sunni's .. I was told that pakistani
shias do have differences but syrian shias dont have any differences with sunnis?
w/s

[Te'oma]

I suspect that although there are differences, they aren't as huge as some would have you believe. There are sects of Shias that are seemingly right of the wall but this can't be said for all shias. I do applaud you for keeping an open mind though.

[bint]

helll...if ure gna get married to a shia...convert her to a proper muslim...NOW THAT!!! IS SOME REAL ADVICE...:rolleyes:

[ummbilal]

helll...if ure gna get married to a shia...convert her to a proper muslim...NOW THAT!!! IS SOME REAL ADVICE...:rolleyes:


agreed!!

[Al-Irhaab]

Salaam Bros and Sisters

I have a question regarding sunni and shia .. quite recently met a young girl with the view to marriage a few days ago told me she was a shia.. I then told her I was looking for only a sunni muslim and not shia.. I was always under the impression that shias dont say the kalma and dont beleive in our beloved prohpet muhammed pbuh to be the last ... But she said they do say the kalma and they beleive in the quran and muhammed pbuh .. which then brings me to my question what is the difference between shia and sunni's .. I was told that pakistani
shias do have differences but syrian shias dont have any differences with sunnis?
w/s

whoever told u that needs a beating...

syrian shiahs are amongst the WORST... many of them are allawis, they actually believe that Ali(Ra) should have been the prophet but gibrael (as) took a wrong turn and went to muhammed (Saw), so they curse gibrael (As) aswell :rolleyes:

if u like her make sure she turns to islam fully even if shes not from the kaafir shia, why do u want to marry a deviant person for

[ali5401]

salaam ..

I was thinking about marriage its a long way off if i do decide .. shes told me today something about 12 imans :eek:
I told her to ask her parents she then said all shes ever been told is that shes a muslim and what her parents beleive is their belief and not hers ..
shes told me her mum said some shias dont say the kalma or muhammed pbuh when they do say it and they are kaffer shias!

the poor girl was quite upset and cant understand why as she has always thought a muslim is a muslim

How does one convert a shia to sunni then?

there are differences but finding out what ones ..

would any sunni brother marry a shia muslim ?

[Al-Irhaab]

salaam ..

I was thinking about marriage its a long way off if i do decide .. shes told me today something about 12 imans :eek:
I told her to ask her parents she then said all shes ever been told is that shes a muslim and what her parents beleive is their belief and not hers ..
shes told me her mum said some shias dont say the kalma or muhammed pbuh when they do say it and they are kaffer shias!

the poor girl was quite upset and cant understand why as she has always thought a muslim is a muslim

How does one convert a shia to sunni then?

there are differences but finding out what ones ..

would any sunni brother marry a shia muslim ?

bro man u got a good oppertunity here to teach her about islam... show her what the shiahs say about the imams are better then the prophets, show her that they degrade women with this mutah thing, teach her about the sahaba and their sacrifice for islam and how much the prophet (Saw) loved them and why the shiah curse them etc... you got a great oppertunity here bro dont lose it

and trust me any bro that would marry a shiah with twelver beliefs :vomit:

[slaveofalmajeed]

Well, I think, if you do marrry her, she will take your beliefs, and your children too.

[MalikOne™]

Id never marry a shia, for more unapparent reasons :nervous:

I'll elaborate in tha bros forum :D

[neelu]

I'm not sure that you need to ask us Ali. I think you should discuss with her in detail what she believes in and if she says something really messed up, then correct her with the evidences and see how she reacts. If she starts reading up about it and takes your advice on board, then there's potential there but if she refuses to discuss it or shuts you out then that's a sign of trouble. Don't be pushy about it, just discuss things patiently and be careful cos' even if she does listen to you- you may get a hostile response from her family (or she may get a hostile response from yours cos' of her background). Hope it all works out well for you inshallah.

[ali5401]

salaam

thanks for the info .. ill discuss it with her she did mention something about the 12 imams well her mum did .. the trouble is she doesnt know much about these things which shias beleive in and do .. she mentioned beating oneself and she said that was wrong and haram .. and a number of other things which sunnis regard as haram and not the stright path..

I asked her about ramadan and if they kept their fasts at different times and she said yes they did . she doesnt even know wot sect she is as a shia .. could someone reccommend some websites on this subject.. ?

[ali5401]

salaam

could someone tell me how would one convert from shia to sunni? would they have to see a imam in order to do this correctly? or is simply changing their views and thoughts to those of a sunni ?

[Talha-1]

Ask her what her shahaadah/kalima is, make sure you hear it from her, and take heed to the advise that others have given. To convert her to sunni start with the basics, talk about tawheed and aqeedah. Shia have many incorrect beliefs, one of which is that iblis was a fallen angel, when in fact he was (once) a pious jinn. Also they pray 3 times a day instead of five, and when they pray they have to use a plank of wood to rest their heads, for some reason they don't touch their forehead directly on the floor. But it maybe this women doesn’t actually know about her deen, which in some ways is better than learning and following the shia.

[MG]

i wouldnt do it if i was u bro, its more headache than its worth in the long run and u also need to think about your future children, mothers usually spend more time with the kids while they grow up (i.e hubbie is at work) how do u know wat beliefs she or her family would be instilling in your children?

anywho, i was once proposed to by a shia guy, i wasnt to clued up on this shia sunni thing at the time either, so anyways, i started reading up on all the differences,, which in turn made me raise and ask questions to this guy , the things i asked were e.g :

how do u read your kalima? (he added ali umwaliullah at the end , i think thats how it goes forgive me)

how many times do u pray? he said 3

he was very verbally abusive about our sahaabah, whihc i was mortified by, so he stopped, saying it in front of me.

Do u believe the quran is in its complete form? he said no, there is another part to it which is hidden!


ok this is jus some of the things i asked. I tried to talk to him and bring him on the right path but i got very aggressive behaviour in return everytime i tried......so it was a no no for me.


bro its not worth the headache in the future, marriages have enuff pressures of there own, u dont need these extra ones.

may Allah swt guide u in making the right decision.Ameen

[Reema]

man how can you be a shia and a allawi at the same time espicially in SYRIA!! You cant be a allawi shia!! The bleeding Allawites hate everyone espicially muslims and even more so the shia. The stupid Allawites in Syria are the biggest kuffar I have ever come across in my entire life.

whoever told u that needs a beating...

syrian shiahs are amongst the WORST... many of them are allawis, they actually believe that Ali(Ra) should have been the prophet but gibrael (as) took a wrong turn and went to muhammed (Saw), so they curse gibrael (As) aswell :rolleyes:

if u like her make sure she turns to islam fully even if shes not from the kaafir shia, why do u want to marry a deviant person for

[MG]

man how can you be a shia and a allawi at the same time espicially in SYRIA!! You cant be a allawi shia!! The bleeding Allawites hate everyone espicially muslims and even more so the shia. The stupid Allawites in Syria are the biggest kuffar I have ever come across in my entire life.


lol sis, i see bro al-ihraab is getting on your nerves today lol

[Reema]

yeah lol, not getting on my nerves exactly!! But you know I feel in an arguing mood tonighty:p

lol sis, i see bro al-ihraab is getting on your nerves today lol

[MG]

yeah lol, not getting on my nerves exactly!! But you know I feel in an arguing mood tonighty:p

lol, yes i can see that :p


im in a "sit back and watch" mood today :1popcorn:

[Al-Irhaab]

man how can you be a shia and a allawi at the same time espicially in SYRIA!! You cant be a allawi shia!! The bleeding Allawites hate everyone espicially muslims and even more so the shia. The stupid Allawites in Syria are the biggest kuffar I have ever come across in my entire life.

sis reema is just on a mission today to be proven wrong over and over again :rolleyes:

http://lexicorient.com/e.o/alawites.htm

i know shia when i smell shiah...

[Reema]

:rolleyes: excuse me you can give me 35 million different sites but that dont prove a thing!! You cant be an allawite and a shia at the same time evn if your 'site' says otherwise! My mother is part Syrian and Ive spent a hell of alot of time there! and no..i have not come across any of these allawite shia's:rolleyes:

and no I cant be proven wrong not by you .... nooooooo :p

and yes we can go on all night...;)

and to add your not the only shia hater that exists, you just need to come and sit among my family for 5 minutes :D :rolleyes: They will tell you how much they love them alrighty:p

sis reema is just on a mission today to be proven wrong over and over again :rolleyes:

http://lexicorient.com/e.o/alawites.htm

i know shia when i smell shiah...

[Al-Irhaab]

awww come on u know uve been proven... alawis are basically even more mashed up shiahs.... i mean yeah u didnt think it was possible but allawites are like the worst of the shiahs... the site is not a shiah site :rolleyes:

he he he u shld tell ur dad to come online me and him would enjoy cussing shiahs :D give me his msn address...

[As-Salafee]

Salaam alaykum wa rehmatullahi wa barakatuh,

She has to become Ahlus Sunnah. Be afraid for your children, lest they come under her influence. It could become huge fitnah and your marriage wouldn't be very fluent.

Scholars will advise you to do dawah to her, if that doesn't work, then keep looking, inshaAllah if for the sake of Allah you sacrifice something, InshaAllah He the Almighty will replace it with something better.

Moreover, even if she is Ithna 'Ashari, how could you marry someone who insults, curses at the Sahaba of the Prophet (saw)...Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Muawiyah, Abu Sufyan, Khalid bin Waleed, Abu Huraira, Aisha, Hafsa...RadiAllahuanhum

I don't, wouldn't tolerate that in my house.

Salaam alaykum wa rehmatullahi wa barakatuh,

[Reema]

some men these days:rolleyes:

LOL! My dad dont have time to come online and sit on msn!! Your going to have to come to my house for a joint session of shia hating :D

awww come on u know uve been proven... alawis are basically even more mashed up shiahs.... i mean yeah u didnt think it was possible but allawites are like the worst of the shiahs... the site is not a shiah site :rolleyes:

he he he u shld tell ur dad to come online me and him would enjoy cussing shiahs :D give me his msn address...

[shiaGyal!]

i am a shia and i will tell you why us shias are on the RIGHTPATH!

First of all I would like to start with What prophet(p.b.u.h) said was that his people will be divided into 73sects,out of 73 only one will go to heaven and 72 will go to hell.

The prophet(P.B.U.H) said that in order to stay on the right pass he has leftbehind two things for us to follow which is the Ahl al-Bayt(prophets(p.b.u.h)family- his daughter Fatima al-Zahra(A.S)’, her husband Imam ‘Ali(A.S), and their children Imams al-Hasan(A.S) and al-Husayn (A.S) and the qur’an. If you are to follow these things you will never be divided.
For those of you who don’t believe me in the qur’an it is quoted:

And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allah and be not divided among yourselves
(Qur'an 3:103)

If you have been divided you are not on the rope of Allah. Sunnis have been divided into 72 sects, so you tell me how can you be on the right path, when in the qur’an it says not to be divided among yourselfs.

Whereas shias have NOT been divided amongst themselves, and they are following the prophet(p.b.u.h) hadith.

We pay full respects to our prophets (p.b.u.h) family. Why would it be wrong to believe and respect prophet’s(p.b.u.h) family. as they sacrificed so much to save islam.

Which brings me to the point of the prohets(p.b.u.h) other hadith is that at the doors of heaven will be hazrat ALI(a.s) sons Iman Hasan(a.s) and Iman Hussian(a.s).how can you sunnis think you can get into heaven when you don’t believe in them.

There is a other thing I would like to discuss is that as per prophets(p.b.u.h) hadith
“if any one upsets my daughter, they will upset me. if someone upsets me, they will upset god. and those who upset god have no place in heaven”

This hadith is stated in your sahi bukari..the second thing written in the bukari is that hazrat Fatima(a.s)never spoke with your 2nd Caliph Umar till the day she died. Now ask any of your Aalims why she was upset!

if anyone disagrees with me i have 100 of points to prove who is right abnd who is wrong!this is just the beginning!

[neelu]

She's not your fiance is she Ali?

[MG]

i am a shia and i will tell you why us shias are on the RIGHTPATH!

First of all I would like to start with What prophet(p.b.u.h) said was that his people will be divided into 73sects,out of 73 only one will go to heaven and 72 will go to hell.

The prophet(P.B.U.H) said that in order to stay on the right pass he has leftbehind two things for us to follow which is the Ahl al-Bayt(prophets(p.b.u.h)family- his daughter Fatima al-Zahra(A.S)’, her husband Imam ‘Ali(A.S), and their children Imams al-Hasan(A.S) and al-Husayn (A.S) and the qur’an. If you are to follow these things you will never be divided.
For those of you who don’t believe me in the qur’an it is quoted:

And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allah and be not divided among yourselves
(Qur'an 3:103)

If you have been divided you are not on the rope of Allah. Sunnis have been divided into 72 sects, so you tell me how can you be on the right path, when in the qur’an it says not to be divided among yourselfs.

Whereas shias have NOT been divided amongst themselves, and they are following the prophet(p.b.u.h) hadith.

We pay full respects to our prophets (p.b.u.h) family. Why would it be wrong to believe and respect prophet’s(p.b.u.h) family. as they sacrificed so much to save islam.

Which brings me to the point of the prohets(p.b.u.h) other hadith is that at the doors of heaven will be hazrat ALI(a.s) sons Iman Hasan(a.s) and Iman Hussian(a.s).how can you sunnis think you can get into heaven when you don’t believe in them.

There is a other thing I would like to discuss is that as per prophets(p.b.u.h) hadith
“if any one upsets my daughter, they will upset me. if someone upsets me, they will upset god. and those who upset god have no place in heaven”

This hadith is stated in your sahi bukari..the second thing written in the bukari is that hazrat Fatima(a.s)never spoke with your 2nd Caliph Umar till the day she died. Now ask any of your Aalims why she was upset!

if anyone disagrees with me i have 100 of points to prove who is right abnd who is wrong!this is just the beginning!


eerrrmmm calm down love, this is not a , sunni versus shia thread, a brother is asking if he should marry a shia girl and people are advising him, u trying to "convert" him isnt doing him any good watsoever and if u want to talk about who is right and who is wrong from shias and sunnis, there are plenty of threads on this site where u can go do that with your "100 points" :)


now stop confusing the poor bro

[shiaGyal!]

eerrrmmm calm down love, this is not a , sunni versus shia thread, a brother is asking if he should marry a shia girl and people are advising him, u trying to "convert" him isnt doing him any good watsoever and if u want to talk about who is right and who is wrong from shias and sunnis, there are plenty of threads on this site where u can go do that with your "100 points" :)


now stop confusing the poor bro

am not trying to confuse the bro, but certain people are saying that us shias are wrong, and he also said that he didn't know the difference.

but so what if am trying to put my point across, because its ok for him or you lot to convert the shia gal.and teling him how he shud.i don't thin there is any reason for her to convert.

[shiaGyal!]

Salaam Bros and Sisters

I have a question regarding sunni and shia .. quite recently met a young girl with the view to marriage a few days ago told me she was a shia.. I then told her I was looking for only a sunni muslim and not shia.. I was always under the impression that shias dont say the kalma and dont beleive in our beloved prohpet muhammed pbuh to be the last ... But she said they do say the kalma and they beleive in the quran and muhammed pbuh .. which then brings me to my question what is the difference between shia and sunni's .. I was told that pakistani
shias do have differences but syrian shias dont have any differences with sunnis?
w/s

this is the difference between shia and sunni
First of all I would like to start with What prophet(p.b.u.h) said was that his people will be divided into 73sects,out of 73 only one will go to heaven and 72 will go to hell.

The prophet(P.B.U.H) said that in order to stay on the right pass he has leftbehind two things for us to follow which is the Ahl al-Bayt(prophets(p.b.u.h)family- his daughter Fatima al-Zahra(A.S)’, her husband Imam ‘Ali(A.S), and their children Imams al-Hasan(A.S) and al-Husayn (A.S) and the qur’an. If you are to follow these things you will never be divided.
For those of you who don’t believe me in the qur’an it is quoted:

And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allah and be not divided among yourselves
(Qur'an 3:103)

If you have been divided you are not on the rope of Allah. Sunnis have been divided into 72 sects, so you tell me how can you be on the right path, when in the qur’an it says not to be divided among yourselfs.

Whereas shias have NOT been divided amongst themselves, and they are following the prophet(p.b.u.h) hadith.

We pay full respects to our prophets (p.b.u.h) family. Why would it be wrong to believe and respect prophet’s(p.b.u.h) family. as they sacrificed so much to save islam.

Which brings me to the point of the prohets(p.b.u.h) other hadith is that at the doors of heaven will be hazrat ALI(a.s) sons Iman Hasan(a.s) and Iman Hussian(a.s).how can you sunnis think you can get into heaven when you don’t believe in them.

There is a other thing I would like to discuss is that as per prophets(p.b.u.h) hadith
“if any one upsets my daughter, they will upset me. if someone upsets me, they will upset god. and those who upset god have no place in heaven”

This hadith is stated in your sahi bukari..the second thing written in the bukari is that hazrat Fatima(a.s)never spoke with your 2nd Caliph Umar till the day she died. Now ask any of your Aalims why she was upset!

[MMS]

am not trying to confuse the bro, but certain people are saying that us shias are wrong, and he also said that he didn't know the difference.

but so what if am trying to put my point across, because its ok for him or you lot to convert the shia gal.and teling him how he shud.i don't thin there is any reason for her to convert.

and mr sistani says

§ Question : Can a Shi'i girl marry a Sunni boy?

§ Answer : If there is a fear of being misled, it is not permissible.

i love the way he answers man its not like sunnipath or islamqa where they have lots of evidence and hadiths

:rofl1:

[shiaGyal!]

and mr sistani says

§ Question : Can a Shi'i girl marry a Sunni boy?

§ Answer : If there is a fear of being misled, it is not permissible.

i love the way he answers man its not like sunnipath or islamqa where they have lots of evidence and hadiths

:rofl1:

r u shia or sunni

[Flowerfragrance]

hello

how ru all?

I'd advise the guy to 4get the whole situation, control his emotions and luk 4 a sunni gal. Why the hassle?

I'm a shia by the way, and have just signed up , all out of boredom. I hope you sunni folks don't mind. Seriously these inter-marriages are always a disaster, and an unnecessary hassle thoughout ones life. There's usually plenty of other peoblems when it comes to marriage, you don't want another alternative set.

I say kick yourself and each time you see her, tell yourself: 'Stop! dammit, she's a rafidhi! a kaffir! you don't want to be dammed for life do you? Likewise imagine getting pestered by auntie najma for the rest of you life!'

You'll surely come to your senses, and inshallah if that doesn't work, beg yourself for the sake of ummul momineen, Aisha (ra).

I think i'm going to get back to my maths now.
Addios

Flower :)

[Flowerfragrance]

hello

how ru all?

I'd advise the guy to 4get the whole situation, control his emotions and luk 4 a sunni gal. Why the hassle?

I'm a shia by the way, and have just signed up , all out of boredom. I hope you sunni folks don't mind. Seriously these inter-marriages are always a disaster, and an unnecessary hassle thoughout ones life. There's usually plenty of other peoblems when it comes to marriage, you don't want another alternative set.

I say kick yourself and each time you see her, tell yourself: 'Stop! dammit, she's a rafidhi! a kaffir! you don't want to be dammed for life do you? Likewise imagine getting pestered by auntie najma for the rest of you life!'

You'll surely come to your senses, and inshallah if that doesn't work, beg yourself for the sake of ummul momineen, Aisha (ra).

I think i'm going to get back to my maths now.
Addios

Flower :)

[Flowerfragrance]

hello

how ru all?

I'd advise the guy to 4get the whole situation, control his emotions and luk 4 a sunni gal. Why the hassle?

I'm a shia by the way, and have just signed up , all out of boredom. I hope you sunni folks don't mind. Seriously these inter-marriages are always a disaster, and an unnecessary hassle thoughout ones life. There's usually plenty of other peoblems when it comes to marriage, you don't want another alternative set.

I say kick yourself and each time you see her, tell yourself: 'Stop! dammit, she's a rafidhi! a kaffir! you don't want to be dammed for life do you? Likewise imagine getting pestered by auntie najma for the rest of you life!'

You'll surely come to your senses, and inshallah if that doesn't work, beg yourself for the sake of ummul momineen, Aisha (ra).

I think i'm going to get back to my maths now.
Addios

Flower :)

[ali5401]

Salaam folks

This seems to be turning into a debate which wasnt my intention ....Bascially the girl never knew the differences between sunni and shia's.. most of her mates are sunni they never had any differences.. Her parents are ofcourse shia .. Shes mentioned a few things like temporary marriage, praying on a plank of wood, beating oneself.. etc etc she doesnt agree with any of these things.. She did ask her mum and she mentioned the 12 imams saying that the sunnis dont believe in this and we do and that is the difference. However the girl doesnt know much or was never taught any of the concepts and beleives of a shia. My point was she may be from one of the shia sects that are muslims.. the ones who dont destort the kalma but still there is obviously a difference.. Im simply trying to find out what it is.. The girl considers herself to to be more of a sunni than a shia due to her beleives..The girl obviously needs to do much research herself after which Ill see what her thoughts are but i dont think its a easy task... marrying someone from a different sect..
May allah guide us all

w/s

[MG]

am not trying to confuse the bro, but certain people are saying that us shias are wrong, and he also said that he didn't know the difference.

but so what if am trying to put my point across, because its ok for him or you lot to convert the shia gal.and teling him how he shud.i don't thin there is any reason for her to convert.

hmmm :rolleyes: im really not gonan get into a detailed discussion about this, jsu cos someone else does it, does it mena u do ? :rolleyes:

[mara]

Ali after your question i think you are not serious in your intentions. Are you asking us how are siting the things with may be your future wife:confused: If you should do it or not. I would never marry with a man which wonder this type of questions.
Really pathetic.

[luqmanthecarpenter]

As her to say this:

Alhama Raise me with Umar and Aisha. I like to call this the Shia test. When s shia comes to me and says "no we are the same" I tell him to say that, and he walks away.

[MMS]

r u shia or sunni

I believe that Ali(r.a) is definately one of the greatest men who have walked the earth's surface.
I also believe he would have sacrificed his property, his family, his whole life before letting the ummah be led by corrupt leaders and allowing them to introduce new things into our deen. He would have fought against those "corrupt leaders" till either he was killed or they were killed, just as Hussain (r.a) did.

Just one of the reasons why i am not a shia

[sister 1maan]

Asalamoalaikum wr wb

Please do not marry a shia as they dont follow the 5 pillars of Sunni Islaam.

The Five Pillars of Islam are:

1. To bear witness that there is none worthy of worship save Allah and that Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) is the Messenger of Allah.

2. To observe Prayer (Salat).

3. To Pay Zakat (Alms giving)

4. To perform the Pilgrimage to the House of Allah (Hajj).

5. To Observe fasting during Ramadhan.


Instead of calling it the Pillars of Faith they call it the Branches of Religion.

The Furoo-ad-Deen (Branches of Religion)
Performing the five daily prayers (Salat).
Fasting during the month of Ramadhan (Sawm).
Paying the poor-rate (Zakat).
Performing the pilgrimage to Mecca (Hajj).
Enjoining what is good (Amr-bil-Ma'roof).
Forbidding what is evil (Nahi-anil-Munkar).
Striving to seek God's approval (Jihad).
Paying the tax on profit (Khums).
To love the Ahl-ul-Bayt and their followers (Tawalla).
To hate the enemies of the Ahl-ul-Bayt (Tabarra).

I know much about Shias and the Shia aqeedah and Shias do observe these pillars. Maybe druze and ismailis don't but the mainstream do.

There are many different types ofShias. The majority are the 12ers who follow the 12 imaams and believe the 12th imaam is waiting to come out from his cave in Iraan.

They also have the Usool-ad-Deen (Roots of Religion)

* Tawhid (The Oneness of God)
* Adl (The Justice of God)
* Nubuwwah (Prophethood) - Muhammad is the final Messenger of Allah
* Imamah (Leadership of Mankind) - Ali is the Viceregent of Allah
* Me'ad (The Resurrection)

Imaamate as we all know is innovation and they also use the imaams to derive/extract laws, thereby using them as revelation. They also think they are infallible and can see the unseen.

They sometimes consider this a pillar.

I suggest you read
http://allaahuakbar.net/shiites/difference_between_shia_and_sunni.htm (http://allaahuakbar.net/shiites/difference_between_shia_and_sunni.htm)
article as it makes it real clear the main differences between the 12ers and Ahlul Sunnah wa Jamaah.

I do know of many Sunni/shia marriages that alhamdulillah have worked out well. It really depends on the couple themselves and how they practise and interpret the religion of islam.

ws

[Refugee]

As an ex-shia - i will only get married to a shia - if she converts like i did - otherwise no - bottomline, there is no way i would allow my kids to be shia - over my dead body

[ali5401]

Just a little update.. Turns out the girls dad is a sunni but the mother is a shia

[Ya Ali Madad786]

Ali -

Being a shia myself, I wouldnt recommend you pursue this girl. Look at her case. Her dad is a sunni and her mom is a shia and she is a confused muslim... she has a shia influence on her and thats why she mentioned to you regarding the 12 imaams, praying on a plank (which btw is made from the sand of Karbala where Imaam Hussain was martryed), praying three times a day (because we pray zuhr and asr together at one time and maghrib and isha at one time - one after the other though). It all depends on how tolerant you are. If your child (when he is old enough) tells you that he wants to be a vivid follower of shia sect, then what are you going to do? are you going to stop him? beat him? disown him? If you tell him that its his life and he is free to practice his religion of choice, then you can think of going into this bond. But frankly I have seen many cases where couples have taken the course to divorce because of these differences.

In the end its your choice and the choice of the girl and her parents and your parents. If you are not so conservative in what you believe in and leave room to understand and respect the other sect equally and leave the choice of religion practice to children, then its ok...otherwise its a hassle...

[Al-Irhaab]

shiahs are kaafir, give her dawah make her muslim and marry her, allah (Swt) will reward you for it.

best thing is to take her to an imam who will explain islam to her, if she accepts and rejects the shiahs then marry her, if she doesnt then its haram to marry her...

[Ya Ali Madad786]

shiahs are kaafir, give her dawah make her muslim and marry her, allah (Swt) will reward you for it.

best thing is to take her to an imam who will explain islam to her, if she accepts and rejects the shiahs then marry her, if she doesnt then its haram to marry her...


I would recommend you read up on books because its clearly evident that you are misinformed or not knowledgeable on the shia sect at all. Nowhere it is mentioned anywhere that shias are kaafir...if its your personal opinion, then it depicts ignorance and your personal hatred. But its wrong to condemn other sects just because you dont belong in them. Think of it this way: Shias can also condemn sunni'ism with the same power as you are doing.

[!--Muzzamil--!]

Shias accept kalimah, and Quran, and Hadith BUT THEY VALUE ALI (RA) MORE THAN MUHAMMED saw WHICH IS HARAM HE IS THE NABI, THEY DONT PRAY TO ALLAH IN THER DUAS, THEY ASK ALI TO ASK ALLAH WER SUNIS SAY ASK ALLAH TABARAK WATA AALA DIRECTLY, THEY MENTION ALI IN THER SALAT, WE ONLI MENTION N ASK HELP FROM ALLAH, THEY R MISGUIDED N THEY R KUFARS

[Ya Ali Madad786]

Shias accept kalimah, and Quran, and Hadith BUT THEY VALUE ALI (RA) MORE THAN MUHAMMED saw WHICH IS HARAM HE IS THE NABI, THEY DONT PRAY TO ALLAH IN THER DUAS, THEY ASK ALI TO ASK ALLAH WER SUNIS SAY ASK ALLAH TABARAK WATA AALA DIRECTLY, THEY MENTION ALI IN THER SALAT, WE ONLI MENTION N ASK HELP FROM ALLAH, THEY R MISGUIDED N THEY R KUFARS

Yes, Shia's value Hz Ali. But its not more than the prophet. Shias believe that on the day of Ghadeer Prophet himself had claimed in front of his people that after him, its Hz Ali. If Abubakr, Osman, Umar turned a deaf ear to that, its not shia's fault. And this is where the shia, sunni branch occurred.
We give Hz Ali the status of the first imaam and so he is valuable in that hierarchy.
You are misguided that shias dont pray to Allah in their duas. Please refer to a credible source when you make such a bold statement.

[Refugee]

shiahs are kaafir, give her dawah make her muslim and marry her, allah (Swt) will reward you for it.

best thing is to take her to an imam who will explain islam to her, if she accepts and rejects the shiahs then marry her, if she doesnt then its haram to marry her...

Excellent point Akhi - thanks goodness i am a sunni now - Also i am trying to make some-else sunni as well - may Allah (swt) help me with that

[oranges]

Whereas shias have NOT been divided amongst themselves, and they are following the prophet(p.b.u.h) hadith.



looool, i nearly fell over my chair laughing at that one! come on! eveyone knows that shiites are divided into so many groups, lats time i looks there were....

- Ithna Asharis (twelvers; branches also include the seveners, sixers, fivers and threethousand two hundred and forty niners! :D )
- The Zaidiyyas
- Mughairiyya
- Jarudiyya
- Zakariyya
- Khashbiyya
- Khaliqiyya
- The Kayasaniyyas
- Mukhtariyya
- Karbiyya
- Ishaqiyya
- Harabiyya
- The Qaddahiyyas
- The Ghullat
- Saba'iyya
:zzz:
- Mansuriyya
- Gharabiyya
- Bazighiyya
- Yaqubiyya
- Isma'iliyya
- Azdariyya

[Ya Ali Madad786]

Excellent point Akhi - thanks goodness i am a sunni now - Also i am trying to make some-else sunni as well - may Allah (swt) help me with that

If you dont mind, can I ask what points prompted you to switch your faith from a practicing Shia to an obsessed practicing sunni?

[Al-Irhaab]

If you dont mind, can I ask what points prompted you to switch your faith from a practicing Shia to an obsessed practicing sunni?

i think what convinced him was the fact that shiahs were kaafir so he didnt want to go to hell so he became muslim... mashallah allahu akbar..

[zarah_87]

i think what convinced him was the fact that shiahs were kaafir so he didnt want to go to hell so he became muslim... mashallah allahu akbar..

Yahhhh.....imagin you wake up at the middle of the night and you see that your wife or husband is beating their back with a samurai sward...... lol :D

[bint]

Yahhhh.....imagin you wake up at the middle of the night and you see that your wife or husband is beating their back with a samurai sward...... lol :D

:laffin: he he yeah man that wud gif ya a shok and enf up faintin in bed at hospital filin for a divorce shriekin 'didnt know it was that bad!'

[zarah_87]

:laffin: he he yeah man that wud gif ya a shok and enf up faintin in bed at hospital filin for a divorce shriekin 'didnt know it was that bad!'

man im glad im a sunni :D

[Ya Ali Madad786]

Yahhhh.....imagin you wake up at the middle of the night and you see that your wife or husband is beating their back with a samurai sward...... lol :D

Seriously u people are ignorant or misinformed or both....shias dont beat themselves with weapons...Like I told someone, respecting other sects is important...if you start dissing other sects, then it shows how childish you still are. You practice your faith with full confidence and I practice my faith that way. So, just chill out OKAY???

[Ya Ali Madad786]

man im glad im a sunni :D

GOOD FOR YOU!!!!

[Ya Ali Madad786]

:laffin: he he yeah man that wud gif ya a shok and enf up faintin in bed at hospital filin for a divorce shriekin 'didnt know it was that bad!'

Its not that bad as these people are making it out to be..... Just lack of information and knowledge is prompting them to make such insane statements.

[Ya Ali Madad786]

i think what convinced him was the fact that shiahs were kaafir so he didnt want to go to hell so he became muslim... mashallah allahu akbar..

And how do you know that shias are kaafir? If you ask me, I say that all sunni's and wahabi's are kaafir's....

[Al-Irhaab]

And how do you know that shias are kaafir? If you ask me, I say that all sunni's and wahabi's are kaafir's....

good for u, when you go hell youll be saying why oh why was i soooo stupid :rolleyes:

[ZainabS]

^^If you say so mate

[Ya Ali Madad786]

good for u, when you go hell youll be saying why oh why was i soooo stupid :rolleyes:


There you go....Ignorance kicks into you quite often doesnt it? Well, be happy following something that aint right... who cares? its u who is responsible for what u follow.... GO RIGHT AHEAD

[Al-Irhaab]

There you go....Ignorance kicks into you quite often doesnt it? Well, be happy following something that aint right... who cares? its u who is responsible for what u follow.... GO RIGHT AHEAD

yup i am ignorant of being kaafir, alhamdulillah have never been kaafir have never insulted sahaba (Ra) have never spoke ill of the wives of the prophet (saw), never thought of men higher than the prophet (as) , you carry on doing that all u want, inshallah the truth is clear to us muslims :rolleyes:

[bint]

Its not that bad as these people are making it out to be..... Just lack of information and knowledge is prompting them to make such insane statements.
enlighten me:up:

[Kal-El]

Regardless of the validity of other faiths and sects of each faith, it is not our place to mock it - especially so openly.

Some people forget one simple fact; we believe our faith is the right path as much as probably the next man/woman to me that believes their own faith is the right path.

So for the sake of neutrality, what is the purpose of mocking the man's religious idealogy? Because from the way these posts are worded, they are clearly not intended to 'educate' or 'discuss' religion with him, only to mock and provoke him. So what is the point in that? No, really, please tell me..?

Although I am Sunni, and he is Shia - I whole heartedly agree with him that some of the immaturity here is shameful - if you believe you are better than him, then act like it by showing some modesty, because in all honesty, his behaviour makes some of you seem like childish bullies in comparison.

[Refugee]

Seriously u people are ignorant or misinformed or both....shias dont beat themselves with weapons...Like I told someone, respecting other sects is important...if you start dissing other sects, then it shows how childish you still are. You practice your faith with full confidence and I practice my faith that way. So, just chill out OKAY???

What you kidding me? I started stabbing myself when i was like 10 - like they say kids do the craziest things

[Refugee]

If you dont mind, can I ask what points prompted you to switch your faith from a practicing Shia to an obsessed practicing sunni?

What do you mean obsessed sunni ...! Dont you have anything better to do and like carry a stick (alam) and work on fire

[zarah_87]

Seriously u people are ignorant or misinformed or both....shias dont beat themselves with weapons...Like I told someone, respecting other sects is important...if you start dissing other sects, then it shows how childish you still are. You practice your faith with full confidence and I practice my faith that way. So, just chill out OKAY???

Are you serious dude?.... shias ''dont beat themselves with weapons''???

im not sure what kind of a shiah u are, honestly what is it that the shiahs do during the festival of Ashura?? (10th of Muharram)
Shia's beat themselves with chains and blades to emulate Hussein's suffering.Others cut themselves on their foreheads.

if u wanna understand more about the sect you follow i suggest you do Google search 'shia muslims'......before you start calling us IGNORENT!!

[Ya Ali Madad786]

Are you serious dude?.... shias ''dont beat themselves with weapons''???

im not sure what kind of a shiah u are, honestly what is it that the shiahs do during the festival of Ashura?? (10th of Muharram)
Shia's beat themselves with chains and blades to emulate Hussein's suffering.Others cut themselves on their foreheads.

if u wanna understand more about the sect you follow i suggest you do Google search 'shia muslims'......before you start calling us IGNORENT!!

no point arguing with dumb-witts like u...

[Ya Ali Madad786]

What do you mean obsessed sunni ...! Dont you have anything better to do and like carry a stick (alam) and work on fire

oh u r the one to talk... i seriously pity u for the drastic step u have taken in converting. You booked urself a first class ticket to jahannum. Good going!

[Refugee]

oh u r the one to talk... i seriously pity u for the drastic step u have taken in converting. You booked urself a first class ticket to jahannum. Good going!

Oh i am sorry i forget that you are the judge of that

[zarah_87]

no point arguing with dumb-witts like u...

Truth Hurtsssss :hidban:
Prove me wrong pleaz.....

[sapphire_blue]

Seriously u people are ignorant or misinformed or both....shias dont beat themselves with weapons...Like I told someone, respecting other sects is important...if you start dissing other sects, then it shows how childish you still are. You practice your faith with full confidence and I practice my faith that way. So, just chill out OKAY???


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Loads here of shias drawing alot of blood! :eek:

May Allah give us all Guidance. Ameen.

[ozzy123]

Shias insult the sahaba. The shias are more of a cult than a religion.

[zarah_87]

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Loads here of shias drawing alot of blood! :eek:

May Allah give us all Guidance. Ameen.

i wounder why his so ashamed to admit it!

if someone was to ask me if i would put my life on the line to protect the banner of Islam and the teaching of Mohammed (saw) i would say YES for sure coz its the truth.

[Salman Al-Farsi]

no point arguing with dumb-witts like u...


:wavey:

[zarah_87]

:wavey:

lol
are u feeling ok Akhi?

[Salman Al-Farsi]

lol
are u feeling ok Akhi?

yep. Fantastic :up:
after banning him that is