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obsidian

19-08-02, 08:02 PM

Salaam Alaikum,

Depends what sort of connection u have...

If you have 56K i suggest buying one of the Linux
magazines most always carry one version or other on the accompanying CD or DVD.

I have RedHat7.2/Mandrake8 and Suse 6.2 if want them, send me a personal message.

Also have FreeBSD

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baba

19-08-02, 08:13 PM

I have the Mandrake Linux 8.2 ISOs on DVD, which I can post to you if you want. I also have CD 1 of FreeBSD 4.6, as well as the entire SuSE 7.3 Professional and OpenBSD 3.0.

As Obsidian says, don't attempt downloading ISO images if you have a dial-up connection, unless you are prepared to wait days (and I mean days, leaving your PC on 24 hours) for it to download. Basically, don't bother downloading ISOs if your connection is less 128kbps.

Noor

19-08-02, 08:18 PM

what r u talking about???????????????

:confused: :confused: :confused:

obsidian

19-08-02, 08:21 PM

Wow!!! Check it out, I'm a Senior Member now :D

How did that happen?? :confused:

cyber-muslim

19-08-02, 08:28 PM

Assalaamu Alaykum

Jazak Allaah Khiraan for ur replies!

and await the software in the post insha'Allaah

Walaykum as Salaam

cyber-muslim

19-08-02, 08:31 PM

Assalaamu Alaykum

another quick question i have a top of the range laptop and wish to format the thing and run a dual operatin system, ie windows xp and linux, i just wanted to know know whether linux will support the hardware in the laptop, it has a geforce4 graphic card and the rest of the spec is top as well, will linux support all this?

Walaykum as Salaam

cyber-muslim

19-08-02, 08:34 PM

i have a blueyonder 1MB connection, so its not a problem

baba

19-08-02, 08:39 PM

Obsidian, When you reach 100 posts you become a senior member.

Muslimah, don't worry :D

Sultan

19-08-02, 09:13 PM

Please check out this site for how well Linux might run with the hardware of your laptop:

http://www.linux-laptop.net/

I find slackware good for laptops.

baba

19-08-02, 09:49 PM

With a 1mbps connection you should have no problem downloading the ISOs, Insha-Allah!

A very recent distro should support all your hardware, but it's worth checking the distributor's hardware compatibility list first before downloading.

Qurratulain

31-08-02, 02:07 PM

Assalamulaikom bro and sis,
Well I am gonna have to learn LInux to now my teacher is making me do it for a project and I will get like 7 points for it, so it is a lot. Anyone know any site which teaches you from the basic since i am totaly not familiar with linux. LIke going from Windows to LInux and something like partitioning :confused:

Chris H

01-09-02, 01:20 AM

Qurratalain, the linux installers will mess up your hard drive if you have only one drive. They can't write to the NTFS file system of XP. Safer to have a secondary hard drive and put linux on that. Alterntively partition your hard drive using XP or PM7 and create a linux file system partition, then install to that.

Qurratulain

01-09-02, 08:59 AM

Well Chris thanks for the reply. I have one IDE 20 GB hard drive. My teacher wants me to make 4 partitions of it and use one for linux to install it on that. This way he said I will be able to use windows and Linux both on the same computer. I have windows 98 installed, but since I have never done this before its quite tricky if I do something wrong I might lose all of my data. Plus he gave me slackware 8.1 saying that is a proper way to learn, and for doing the partition, pm7 is a good program, but its hard to get for free that is . Well I will try today to do those partitions and install it inshallah, hope I dont encounter any problems. :cool:

Chris H

01-09-02, 11:39 PM

Qurratulain, Windows 98 will use the FAT32 file system, so the linux installer won't have any problem with that. You can use an earlier version of PM to create the partition. PM5 is appearing free on some mag cds at the moment.

Muslim19

02-09-02, 10:04 AM

Salaams,

To digress a little, don't you think Linux will replace Windows XP and future Windows? I hate the way Microsoft uses its position as number 1 software manufacturer.

Anyone with a better idea?

Qurratulain

02-09-02, 10:10 AM

Chris thanks for ur help , I have pm6 and have done the partitioning. I am trying to install linux now aint as easy as i thought it would be :mad:, no wonder I am getting so much marks for it .
And Linux replacing Windows XP no I dont think so since Linux is difficult to install and use , and that keeps many people from using it . Although have to agree that its much better than windows.

Muslim19

02-09-02, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by Qurratulain
Chris thanks for ur help , I have pm6 and have done the partitioning. I am trying to install linux now aint as easy as i thought it would be :mad:, no wonder I am getting so much marks for it .
And Linux replacing Windows XP no I dont think so since Linux is difficult to install and use , and that keeps many people from using it . Although have to agree that its much better than windows.

For God Sake let Microsoft do away with its Licensing Policies and make life easier for other competitors. The 2nd is why is Linux hard to install? Which Distributor has a better Installer?

eXasPeration (XP)...

Qurratulain

02-09-02, 10:28 AM

Salaam,
Its hard to install since I am doing it right now. Windows appears much user friendly to common users, believe it or not those people who aint that good with computers would find linux difficulter to use than Windows.

Muslim19

02-09-02, 11:26 AM

I think this will help u in the transition from WinXP to Linux.

The second edition of the Linux book is (whew) done and will appear on the shelves in late November. More on it as November approaches, but basically I focused entirely on RedHat Linux 7.3, updating the book to reflect the many changes in Linux since early 2000, zeroing in on RedHat-specific syntax and adding coverage of a few new things, including Winbind, wireless NICs, and CD-less installations... by Mark MinasiMore... (http://www.minasi.com/)

Qurratulain

04-09-02, 02:13 PM

Assalamulaikom,
JazakAllah Khairun for the link, actually I am trying to install Slackware 8.1
wasalaam

seven

04-09-02, 04:48 PM

i love redhat linux... had a few hardware compatibilty issues with 7.2 but i'm looking forward to 7.3 :)

Qurratulain

04-09-02, 06:32 PM

Assalamulaikom,
I take it that you all have installed Linux , I am having really a trouble with it. It aint booting from there .:mad: Could someone help?

seven

04-09-02, 06:34 PM

what boot manager did you install with linux?

Qurratulain

04-09-02, 06:39 PM

erm.. Well I will tell you what I exactly did ,since I am not that familiar with Linux. I have windows 98 installed and I made 4 partitions of it first. Reserving one for windows the rest for Linux. I installed Linux on the other partition and made it the bootable one. But after restarting it wont boot Linux that is , so am stuck with it this is my 4th I think installation the first one went wrong since I didnt have enough disk space. I really dont wanna do it again. Gotta go for magrib prayer,
salaam:(

seven

04-09-02, 06:47 PM

it's always tricky if you're installing for it the first time :D

anyway... how did you install linux? did you use a linux bootalbe cd to install?

and when your computer starts up does "LILO boot" come up?

i'm off for maghrib too

Qurratulain

04-09-02, 07:06 PM

Well am back,
I installed it from a bootable CD but I think mine bios is a bit outdated it wasnt willing to boot from it, so i then used a floppy. And when my computer starts up nope Lilo boot doesnt come up I tried booting it from a floppy again and I got a warning like Kernel in panic no init found, lols, and it got stuck.......I think something seriously went wrong.

seven

04-09-02, 07:38 PM

couldn't boot from the bios? you must have an old pc... or you might need a download an update for your bios.

when you were installing linux did you name the linux partition? and did the installation complete successully

seven

04-09-02, 07:38 PM

Qurratulain

04-09-02, 08:31 PM

Yes I did name the partitions and installation goes on successfully as well, but it doesnt want to boot:(

seven

04-09-02, 08:55 PM

hmmm... i think you might be using the windows partition to boot... you're supposed to use the linux partition as the primary boot up partition

Qurratulain

06-09-02, 07:32 AM

Assalamulaikom,
No I use the Linux partition to boot but when its booting I get a warning and that kernel in panic no init console found. I have installed it twice LInux but same problem. I think I am gonna have to partition the hard drive all over again and install Windows and Linux both, maybe that will solve the problem.
JazakAllah for your help by the way

Chris H

06-09-02, 11:45 AM

If you're putting linux on a machine that has windows and you want dualboot, then you should still be booting from the Windows partition, ie drive c: The Lilo bootloader should be in the mbr of c: to give you the option of linux/windows/floppy etc.

If you only wanted Linux to run then you have to change the master disk drive letter in BIOS to get the machine to boot from wherever you have Linux installed.

Least I thnk that's right :)

Dunno what country you're in Qurratulain but I think LinuxFormat in the UK has Slackware 8.1 on it's cover disk.

seven

06-09-02, 02:24 PM

Q: Why does the boot process stop with this "Kernel panic" error?
VFS: Cannot open root device 08:04
Kernel panic: VFS : Unable to mount root fs on 08:04

Well, you see, device 08:04 is the fourth partition on a SCSI drive (/dev/sda4). In most machines these days, there are no SCSI devices, only IDE ones. (NOTE: the parallel-port version of the Zip drive *is* treated as a SCSI device by Linux)

What you need to do is edit the LINUX.BAT file and change the uncommented loadlin line (without the 'rem') to boot the partition where you installed Linux. This is probably something like /dev/hda1 if you used your C: drive.

If you have no idea what the partition is, look right before it stops and you'll see something like:

hda: hda1 hda2 hda3
In this case, the partition must be one of: /dev/hda1, /dev/hda2, /dev/hda3.

Qurratulain

08-09-02, 08:34 AM

Assalamulaikom,
Chris and Seven thanks for your help. I am still working on it, I found out that you get a kernel error due to incompatiblel software or hardware, hmmm.. so I think just gonna have to install it in my University instead rather then at home...:(

seven

08-09-02, 10:35 PM

did you create enough swap space? sometimes if you don't create enough it could cause problems

Sultan

08-09-02, 11:48 PM

Try using something other than Slackware 8.1. Many people have had problems with that one due to the ISO on the bood disk.

For example I can boot up the installation disk up on my laptop, but can't on my PC. Many people had same problems.

You may have to create five root disks to install it on your hard drive.

And Slackware is not recommended for beginners. It's more orientated to 'experts' who know how to edit scripts to configure Linux for their specific machine. Many other distros make like a lot easier with their set-up programs that do the configuring for you.

Qurratulain

09-09-02, 07:05 AM

Assalamulaikom,
Brother seven mine swap space is like a bit more then1 MB , which is I think more then enough since it should be twice as big as your RAM.
Brother Sultan I am installing SLackware since my teacher recommended it to me and wants me to work with it. According to him the hard way is the best way to learn :mad: Anyhows it is giving me a lot of problems but am working on it inshallah I will install it
JazakAllah khairun to both of u
:)

seven

09-09-02, 03:35 PM

1MB??? that's definately not enough.... the reccomended swap space is 128MB... some people even use more than that

Kaiser

09-09-02, 04:33 PM

OMG what kind of PC u use ?

I have 256 mb ram and my PC is oudated and probably needs replacement in a year or two.

obsidian

09-09-02, 08:29 PM

I would recommend at least 256MB and a fast chip such as an Athelon or P4. Though using Durons or Celerons may be more cost-effective solutions especially if floating point performance isn't that important.

It would of course depend on what services are being run as some consume more memory and cpu than others...

ps
Just got a hold of Diablo2 at the weekend
Now just need to get myself offa this site to rebuild my character :D

I have 256 mb ram and my PC is oudated and probably needs replacement in a year or two.

seven

09-09-02, 09:17 PM

Originally posted by obsidian

ps
Just got a hold of Diablo2 at the weekend
Now just need to get myself offa this site to rebuild my character :D

i recommend you upgrade to LoD expansion pack before you play :cool:

cyber-muslim

09-09-02, 09:50 PM

ok i got a formatted hard disk, now should i change to boot configuration so it boots from the linux cd-rom?

how hard will it be to surf my way through the setup?

im putting red hat on it!

Qurratulain

10-09-02, 07:44 AM

My pc is 160 MB RAM and pentium ||, Swap space i have it to 329 MB now.

Qurratulain

10-09-02, 01:17 PM

Assalamulaikom
I am really happy today since I finallay managed to install SLackware 8.1 sucessfully. JAzakAllah khairun to all the brothers for their help. It was just because of a minor mistake that I was having that problem. I partitioned that hard drive again and this time made one extended primary partition and therein the Logical partitions for Linux and it is installed sucessfully now :cool: , first I had all 4 Primary partitions maybe that was the problem and I was having a Kernel panic error.
Once again thanks (JK) to all of u

Sultan

11-09-02, 08:16 PM

Did you do it through making five root disks on floppy?

I have to do that when upgrading my PCs OS, since it won't let me boot for the cd (other distros, I have no problem with).

Anyway, now you are a member of the ELITE! Enjoy!

You can have fun now configuring Slackware to use your graphics, sound card and modem.

:D

Let us know how you get on.

obsidian

11-09-02, 08:22 PM

I will once I dig out my old saved games :p

i recommend you upgrade to LoD expansion pack before you play

Kaiser

12-09-02, 05:44 AM

Why dont u play on Battle.net ?Its alot more fun.

Qurratulain

12-09-02, 07:23 AM

Assalamulaikom,
Yes I had to make 6 boot disks as well since my pc wasnt willing to boot from the cdrom as well. But later I got a boot disk from my teacher and with that one floppy I was able to boot it from the cdrom. If u need it I will attach it here then it will be a lot easier instead of booting from 6 floppy disks which is very time consuming.

Right now I am just trying to figure out how to work with it and use it,

wasalaam :)

Justicator

20-09-02, 06:44 PM

Reserving one for windows the rest for Linux. I installed Linux on the other partition and made it the bootable one. But after restarting it wont boot Linux

LILO must reside within the first 1024 sectors of the hard drive . Best method for doing a dual boot sytem is to use a boot disk DO not install LILO to the hard drive . From what I read you have installed LILO to hard drive and get the kernal error because its trying to boot your Windows partition . Most of the newer Linux version will ask you if you want to install LILO just pick no and it will creat a boot disk for you . Also if you did install LILO and you can't reboot with a DOS boot disk due to MBR corruption just download a factory formatting program specific to your hard drive ( most manufaturers will have this posted at thier site and most hard drives come with this disk ) . The only way around the LILO boot disk method is to have a third party OS manager liek System Commander . Remember you don't need to get fancy with Linux partitions just assign the ability to resize to your swap file and have extra space on your disk so that your partitions can grow if needed this can be assigned by partition properties . On a side note Linux Xservers look nice but youll need to be effecient at UNIX to truly utilize the OS as it is not as forgiving as Windows . :)

AbuMubarak

26-09-02, 05:19 PM

wow, subhanallah

i was thinking of switching to linux from my xp, but i see this may be a lot more trouble than its worth

i got 40gigs, 550+ mem and a 550 intel 3 with a dsl connection, i thought i would partition the drive and play with it for a while, but you guys have scared me

Qurratulain

27-09-02, 07:00 AM

Assalamulaikom,
Well bro Raafi it is not as hard as it seems. Linux is a lot much more better than WIndows. Installing it can be a little more complicated but it is worth it in the end. Plus you can do a lot of hacking with it :) . Slackware is a bit tougher the one i tried since usually you have to compile the kernel if some driver isnt recognized, but Mandrake, Redhat , and one of my classfellows used Suse, its quite easy to install and has the look and feel of Windows.

Muslim19

27-09-02, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by Raafi
wow, subhanallah

i was thinking of switching to linux from my xp, but i see this may be a lot more trouble than its worth

i got 40gigs, 550+ mem and a 550 intel 3 with a dsl connection, i thought i would partition the drive and play with it for a while, but you guys have scared me

I believe the best idea is to wait for Red Hat 8.0 (Desktop version) to see whether it delivers...