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Sunshine&Dust
01-01-06, 09:14 AM
Salaam,

I wanted to ask if a muslim sister meets a muslim borther on the internet and the brother and sister both have intention to marry inshallah but the brother does not have the means to be married. Is it haram for the muslim brother and sister to talk on the phone from time to time in order to remain in contact until the brother has the means for marriage, if the parents of both permit them?

Guvna
01-01-06, 09:57 AM
Salams,

Please see the following from www.askimam.com. Mufti Ibrahim is a Scholar who follows and is renowned in South Africa and the Hanafi School of Thought!

http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=15787

Wassalam

Emelianenko
01-01-06, 09:57 AM
ayeeeeeeee

Ayah
01-01-06, 05:14 PM
Salaam,

I wanted to ask if a muslim sister meets a muslim borther on the internet and the brother and sister both have intention to marry inshallah but the brother does not have the means to be married. Is it haram for the muslim brother and sister to talk on the phone from time to time in order to remain in contact until the brother has the means for marriage, if the parents of both permit them?

They should get engaged atleast. I mean, if the parents of both are allowing it & both have made istikharah and feel that they're right for eachother, then they may as well get engaged until they have the "means to get married."

~Ayah

abdusamad
01-01-06, 05:16 PM
They should get engaged atleast. I mean, if the parents of both are allowing it & both have made istikharah and feel that they're right for eachother, then they may as well get engaged until they have the "means to get married."

~Ayah


:) she summed it up properly.. but both should speak to their parents as soon as possible.

*islamia
01-01-06, 05:22 PM
Well in Islam, if both of the people like eachother, they should get married IMMEADIATLY.


There is a hadith by the Beloved Prophet of Allah (saw) saying, " Three things I encouage you to rush, marriage, to pay the debts, and the Janazah."



If I made any mistake I ask Allah az wa jaal to forgive me. Hope this helps.

bilal_uk_101
03-01-06, 02:13 PM
^^lol^^

this is a funny topic:rolleyes:

Emelianenko
03-01-06, 02:42 PM
Agreed with islamia..Engagements hold no status whatsoever in Islam..it doesnt make it halaal now does it :p and islamia pointed out nabi saw said do not delay in marriage once match has been found..to tht affect. :D

Guvna
03-01-06, 02:50 PM
Salams,
Engaged?!?!?! what the hells that when its at home!?! NIKAH is the ONLY way Islam allows 2 non-mehrams to speak!
DO NOT be fooled to belive in any other way or system!

If you guys are comitted to each other, then at least get the Nikah doen,, and then work for the means to move in together!

Wassalams

Refugee
03-01-06, 03:09 PM
Salaam,

I wanted to ask if a muslim sister meets a muslim borther on the internet and the brother and sister both have intention to marry inshallah but the brother does not have the means to be married. Is it haram for the muslim brother and sister to talk on the phone from time to time in order to remain in contact until the brother has the means for marriage, if the parents of both permit them?


Sounds a little like my situation

Niqaabi
03-01-06, 03:33 PM
Salams,
Engaged?!?!?! what the hells that when its at home!?! NIKAH is the ONLY way Islam allows 2 non-mehrams to speak!
DO NOT be fooled to belive in any other way or system!

If you guys are comitted to each other, then at least get the Nikah doen,, and then work for the means to move in together!

Wassalams
What you talking about? If you have set the date and are 'engaged' its permissable for you to talk so long as you keep it within the limits. How else are you suppose to get to know what the person is like?

The nikah should be done quickly, but some people have parents that wont allow the to get married before they reach a certain age, or before they havent gotten their degree etc. For these people, they should really watch their tongues. Not a good idea to talk on the fone, but there is the thing of knowing that the other person is still interested. hmmm.

womeninbadr
03-01-06, 03:53 PM
Assalamualaikum Sisters/brothers,

To know someone from the Internet is not the good thing especially for marriage. Becareful!!!! as he/she can say whatsoever you like to hear. I have my best friend who has been burnt from meeting a man from the Internet. The best thing is to ask your parent to find you a pious man, pray Istikarah and investigate thouroughly.

I don't want any sisters to be hurt like my friend did.

Niqaabi
03-01-06, 04:29 PM
Assalamualaikum Sisters/brothers,

To know someone from the Internet is not the good thing especially for marriage. Becareful!!!! as he/she can say whatsoever you like to hear. I have my best friend who has been burnt from meeting a man from the Internet. The best thing is to ask your parent to find you a pious man, pray Istikarah and investigate thouroughly.

I don't want any sisters to be hurt like my friend did.
Not all of them are like that.
my bes fwend met her hubby from the net and they get along fantastic.
i also know another sister who met hers through the net and again, married and live a wonderful life alhumdulillah.

bint
03-01-06, 04:34 PM
Salams,

Please see the following from www.askimam.com (http://www.askimam.com). Mufti Ibrahim is a Scholar who follows and is renowned in South Africa and the Hanafi School of Thought!

http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=15787

Wassalam


just to inform u guvna that MUfti Ibrahi DEsai passed away a few months back just b4 ramadhan..inna lillahi wainna ilayhi raji oon...:(

Guvna
03-01-06, 04:57 PM
Salams,
Thanks for that Bint... i didn;t Know!
May allah grant him the highest of status in Paradise... One only needs to look at the Site, to see the amount of people he;s helped!

Wassalams

bint
03-01-06, 05:23 PM
Salams,
Thanks for that Bint... i didn;t Know!
May allah grant him the highest of status in Paradise... One only needs to look at the Site, to see the amount of people he;s helped!

Wassalams


ye well if uve noticed they have changed the website...its-

www.askimam.org (http://www.askimam.org)

i dont no why:(

im gna miss him tho...he asnwered most of my questions..subhanallah
may Allah grant him an elevating rank in Jannah.ameen.ws

Salman Al-Farsi
03-01-06, 05:51 PM
Ibrahim Desai passed away :eek: Inna lillahi wa ina ilayhi raji'un. May Allah (swt) forgive his sins and shortcomings. Ameen

.: Anna :.
03-01-06, 06:37 PM
Ibrahim Desai has passed away??? Subhanallah I never heard!! :eek:
Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raajioon
May Allah forgive his sins, accept all his good deeds and grant him a high place in Jannah ameen

toxic
03-01-06, 06:47 PM
just to inform u guvna that MUfti Ibrahi DEsai passed away a few months back just b4 ramadhan..inna lillahi wainna ilayhi raji oon...:(

:salams:

just to clarify MUFTI IBRAHIM DESAI DID NOT PASS AWAY!!!! He is still alive and presently at hajj with his wife (my first cousin - dad's side of the family) and a group of people.

as for why the name of the website is changed is cos it was restructured.

salaams and duas

.: Anna :.
03-01-06, 06:49 PM
ohhh lol. Alhamdulillah :)
well in that case, May Allah accept his Hajj and ur cousin's Hajj :D

toxic
03-01-06, 07:11 PM
Bismillahir Ra'maanir Ra'heem
AsSalam AuAlaikum WaRahmatullahi WaBarakatuhu



Ahh -Jazaa'kallahu Khairun- Akhi Toxic

Please - I Beg That One Has Da'leel Before Posting Someones Death
Lol - Cos Man You Got My Heart Pounding Like Mad -

-Smiles-
WaSalam AuAlaikum WaRahmatullahi WaBarakatuhu

:wswrwb:

you welcome and its UKHTI sunshine :hidban: :D

bint
03-01-06, 07:18 PM
ohhh lol. Alhamdulillah :)
well in that case, May Allah accept his Hajj and ur cousin's Hajj :D


ohmigoddd?????:shock: nah u gta b jokin or the guy that rung my bro..tut..i cant believe it...r u sure??? i mean my bro actually got a phone call 2 weeks b4 ramadhan...this makes me angry man!!! Oh well Im glad he is alive..I cant believe i quoted him dead,astaghfirullah:nervous: forgive me ppl!for 5 months ive been thinkin that he has passed away...

Emelianenko
03-01-06, 08:40 PM
just to inform u guvna that MUfti Ibrahi DEsai passed away a few months back just b4 ramadhan..inna lillahi wainna ilayhi raji oon...:(

and jus to inform you i enquired from his family members and hes still alive :D :D confirm b4 u say summat like this sis :)

Niqaabi
03-01-06, 10:20 PM
inna lillahi wa inna lillahi raji'oon.

i dont know anything about this shaykh :(, but ameen to all your duahs.

Abu Hurairah
05-01-06, 02:54 AM
inna lillahi wa inna lillahi raji'oon.

i dont know anything about this shaykh :( , but ameen to all your duahs.


Well rest easy sis. and turn this :( into :) , I'll tell you something thats soooo funny and a great barrel of laughs- it turns out would you believe that the person said to be dead is alive and kicking afteral- it was one of those things that happen to us all the time when we think someomes stone dead and is still going you know how it is, it was of 'em Ummah.com EXCLUSIVE blunders. :rolleyes:

Anyways what I'm trying to figure out is how this (yes man yet another marriage thread- some people can't get enough of it) turned into some death thread. :confused: :scratch:

Mary Carol
06-01-06, 01:42 PM
:inlove: and marriage due to the Internet?

Fairy tales can come true...

Bent_al-islam
20-01-06, 01:48 PM
Salaam,

I wanted to ask if a muslim sister meets a muslim borther on the internet and the brother and sister both have intention to marry inshallah but the brother does not have the means to be married. Is it haram for the muslim brother and sister to talk on the phone from time to time in order to remain in contact until the brother has the means for marriage, if the parents of both permit them?w salam
well at least get engaged first and then think about talking on the phone and getting to know each other better.>>>>the same happend to me but i didnt meet him on the net he is my cuz anyways he wanted us to get to know each other more by talking on the phone or on the net nawayz i refuse cuz its haram what i did was i went to the country he is in and saw him and he saw me and i asked him if he wanted me? he said yes:inlove: then aftter that we got engaged then we did the 3aged nekah.....from there we got to talk all we want and not feeling guilty for doing so

LOLO11
08-12-06, 01:00 PM
assalamu alikum wa rahmatu allah wa baraktuh

juma mubaraka

actually , one of my friends get married via internet , and as i know she moved from the city she wre to another country , and as it appears that if the man wants to get married , he will act fastly inorder to marry the girl

haqa
08-12-06, 01:15 PM
:salams:

just to clarify MUFTI IBRAHIM DESAI DID NOT PASS AWAY!!!! He is still alive and presently at hajj with his wife (my first cousin - dad's side of the family) and a group of people.


I thought it sounded a bit strange, how could he have passed away back then when he was still answering questions on the site:rolleyes:

Guvna
08-12-06, 01:16 PM
I thought it sounded a bit strange, how could he have passed away a couple of months ago when he's still answering questions on the site:rolleyes:


PLEASE Check teh Date of this thread! awas a loooonng time ago!!!

haqa
08-12-06, 01:27 PM
PLEASE Check teh Date of this thread! awas a loooonng time ago!!!

lol sorry abt that, ive edited my post now

bint
08-12-06, 01:40 PM
:smack:

:embar:

:outta:

Fais
08-12-06, 02:20 PM
:smack:

:embar:

:outta:

lol, your news in unreliable. :rotfl:

bint
08-12-06, 02:30 PM
lol, your news in unreliable. :rotfl:
dont man.. :crying:

mods delte man..im cringing:(

Eemaan
08-12-06, 02:31 PM
:shock: @ bint *shakes head and sighs in despair*

bint
08-12-06, 02:32 PM
:shock: @ bint *shakes head and sighs in despair*


:embar:

dont make me feel even worse :(

Fais
08-12-06, 02:47 PM
dont man.. :crying:

mods delte man..im cringing:(

*shakes head and sighs in despair* .. How could you .... :(

:shock: @ bint *shakes head and sighs in despair*

....

:embar:

dont make me feel even worse :(

... :torture:

Eemaan
08-12-06, 03:01 PM
sorry bint.

folk make mistakes, gerrof Bint you lot *protects bint and hides her under her desk*

shes not here :D

Fais
08-12-06, 03:03 PM
sorry bint.

folk make mistakes, gerrof Bint you lot *protects bint and hides her under her desk*

shes not here :D

:( ... its all here fault :mad: ... misleading ppl :torture: ...

Al-Saeed Abdi
08-12-06, 03:24 PM
As Salaamu Alaikum,

This reminds me of when my cousin told everyone my granddad passed away. The old man lived a fair distance away in Punjab. So many people were ready to make the trip there for his janaazah, but when he called to enquire about when its going to be held, his goes "here, why don't you ask him yourself." [lol]

Ma'aSalaama

bint
08-12-06, 10:18 PM
alright man :rubeyes: !!

`asiya
08-12-06, 10:27 PM
Salams,
Engaged?!?!?! what the hells that when its at home!?! NIKAH is the ONLY way Islam allows 2 non-mehrams to speak!
DO NOT be fooled to belive in any other way or system!

If you guys are comitted to each other, then at least get the Nikah doen,, and then work for the means to move in together!

Wassalams

look at this little gem from the guvna masha Allah^ barakallahu feek amin

lets not embaress our sister and get back to the topic the mistake shouldnt have been mentioned again at all ...:torture:

bint
08-12-06, 10:29 PM
look at this little gem from the guvna masha Allah^ barakallahu feek amin

lets not embaress our sister and get back to the topic the mistake shouldnt have been mentioned again at all ...:torture:


first time he actually speaks some sense.:D

haqa
08-12-06, 10:30 PM
lets not embaress our sister and get back to the topic the mistake shouldnt have been mentioned again at all ...:torture:

it was my fault , sorry bint, now leave her alone guys:badguy:

bint
08-12-06, 10:34 PM
it was my fault , sorry bint, now leave her alone guys:badguy:


:p