Very Good Site

[chechnya]

salam alekum,
A lot of Fatwas in english in this site, very good :

http://www.assalafi.com/Islamic%20Articles_page.htm (http://www.assalafi.com/Islamic%20Articles_page.htm)

good learn.

[norkcen]

subhanallah, that site contains blqatant blasphemy....the article 'Where is Allah?' is enough to prove this....i wouldn't suggest this site

[chechnya]

SUBHANA'LLAH!!!!

You say that Ibn ’Abdul-Barr an-Niwaaree rahimullah is a blasphemer!!!!!
SUBHANA'LLAH!!!! you are VERY VERY ignorant boy!!!!
Before to say things like that, open books please.

do you know this "blasphemer" boy...I don't believe....

Ibn ’Abdul-Barr an-Niwaaree (d. 463H) rahimullah was a great Ahlul-Hadeeth BOY!!! Like :

l’Imaam Maalik (m. 179H ), al-Awzaa’ee (m. 157H), Sufiyaan ibn Sa’eed ath-Thawree (m. 161H), Sufyaan ibn Uyayna (m. 198H), Ismaa’eel ibn Ubya (m. 193H), Layth ibn Sa’d (m. 175H), Aboo Haneefah an-Nu’maan (m. 150H).

‘Abdullah ibn al-Mubaarak (m. 181H), Wakee’ ibn al-Jarraah (m. 197H), l’Imaam Muhammad ibn Idrees ash-Shaafi’ee (m. 204H), ’Abdur-Rahmaan ibn Mahdee (m. 198H), Yahya ibn Sa’eed al-Qataan (m. 198H) et Afaan ibn Muslim (d. 219H). Imaam Ahmad ibn Hanbal (m. 241H), Yahya ibn Ma’een (m. 233H), ’Alee ibn al-Madeenee (m. 234H).

al-Bukharee (m. 256H), Muslim (m. 261H), Abee Haatim (m. 277H), Abee Zara’ (Aboo Zur’ah ?) (m. 264H), Aboo Daawood (m. 275H), at-Tirmidhee (m. 279H), an-Nasaa’ee (m. 303H).

Ibn Jareer (at-Tabaree ?) (m. 310H), (m. 310H), Ibn Khuzaymah (m. 311H), ad-Daaraqutnee (m. 385H), al-Khateeb al-Baghdaadee (m. 463H), Ibn ’Abdul-Barr an-Niwaaree (m. 463H).

’Abdul-Ghanee al-Maqdasee (m. 620H), Ibn Salaah (m. 643H), Ibn Taymiyyah (m. 728H), al-Mizzee (m. 743H), adh-Dhahabee (m. 748H), Ibn Katheer (m. 774H)

....but I don't believe you know these name.....IGNORANT

Don't post things like that!

[chechnya]

PS : for your training boy -> http://www.allaahuakbar.net/scholars/al-madkhalee/so_who_are_ahl_hadith.htm

[norkcen]

and Allah is not in a location, you stupid fool

this is utter kufr to say such a thing, it is NOT asked 'where is Allah' and it is not asked 'how is Allah'

becasue there is no where, and there is now how, you dumb ass

it is foul blasphemy to assoicate Allah with place, and anyone who says Allah is in a place if a vile kafir

so before you spout your garbage, why don't YOU study the basics of monothism?

i never even said niwari, nor did i call anyone a blasphemer, so before you make takfir, why don't you learn some english you ****tard

curse be upon you for putting words in my mouth

Allah is not in a location, Allah does NOT have a body, nor an image

[norkcen]

Shaykh Fakhrud-Din Ibn ^Asakir, may Allah have mercy upon him, said:

Know, may Allah guide us and you, that it is obligatory upon every accountable person to know that Allah is the only God in His Dominion.

He created the entire world, the upper and lower, the ^Arsh and Kursiyy, the heavens and earth, and what is in them and in between them.

All the creation is subjugated by His Power. No speck moves except by His will.

He has no manager for the creation with Him, and has no partner in Dominion.

He is attributed with Life and is Qayyum. He is not seized by somnolence or sleep.

He is the One Who knows about the unforeseen and what is evidenced by His creation. Nothing on earth or in heaven is hidden from Him. He knows what is on land and in sea. Not a leaf does fall but He knows about it. There is no grain in the darkness of earth, nor anything which is moist or dry but is inscribed in a clear Book. His Knowledge encompasses everything. He knows the count of all things.

He does whatever He wills. He has the power to do whatever He wills.

To Him is the Dominion and He needs none; To Him belong the Glory and Everlastingness. To Him are the Ruling and al-Qada' (the Creating). He has the Names of Perfection. No one hinders what He decreed. No one prevents what He gives. He does in His dominion whatever He wills. He rules His creation with whatever He wills.
He does not hope for reward and does not fear punishment.

There is no right on Him that is binding, and no one exercises rule over Him.

Every endowment from Him is due to His Generosity and every punishment from Him is just. He is not questioned about what He does, but they are questioned.

He existed before the creation. He does not have a before or an after. He does not have an above or a below, a right or a left, an in front of or a behind, a whole or a part.

It must not be said: When was He? Or where was He? Or how is He? He existed without a place. He created the universe and willed for the existence of time. He is not bound to time and is not designated with place.

His management of one matter does not distract Him from another. Delusions do not apply to Him, and He is not encompassed by the mind. He is not conceivable in the mind. He is not imagined in the self nor pictured in delusions. He is not grasped with delusions or thoughts.

http://www.aicp.org/IslamicInformation/images/aqida.gif

This Ayah means: [Nothing is like Him and He is attributed with Hearing and Sight.]

[chechnya]

i never even said niwari, nor did i call anyone a blasphemer,

SUBHANA LAH!!! liar with this!!!
OK I go in the website http://www.assalafi.com/Islamic%20Articles_page.htm (http://www.assalafi.com/Islamic%20Articles_page.htm)
and I click on the article 'Where is Allah?' and I read :
“WHERE IS ALLAH”l




AUTHOR: The 'Bukhaari of the west', the Imaam, the haafidh, ibn Abdul Barr (d.423), the Imaam of the Sunnah of his time said in his work at-Tamheed under the commentary of the 8th hadeeth:


The author is ibn Abdul Barr (d.423), and you said :
that site contains blqatant blasphemy....the article 'Where is Allah?' is enough to prove this
So you say ibn Abdul Barr (d.423) is a blasphemer.


But to know that, you must READ before open your mouth...you said a great Ahlul-Hadeeth is a blasphemer and after that you persist in your IGNORANCE.


Now you said:
you stupid fool you dumb ass you ****tard .

Do you believe a muslim speak like that subhana lah!!!


You don't know ibn Abdul Barr and you speak of monotheism with me!!!!


go back to school boy, learn, read....and after come back in this thread
3),

[norkcen]

still doesn';t change that fact that this so called shcolar is going agaisnt the scholar of aqqedah. imam ibn asakir

[chechnya]

read all the article and all dalils of the Cheikh before, cheikhs don't speak without dalils :

Where is Allaah?
Ibn Abdul Barr on the Meaning of Istiwaa

`The Most Merciful rose over the Throne.'

The 'Bukhaari of the west', the Imaam, the haafidh, ibn Abdul Barr (d.423), the Imaam of the Sunnah of his time said in his work at-Tamheed under the commentary of the 8th hadeeth:

"From Abu Hurayra that the Prophet (sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam) said, 'Our Lord descends every night to the lowest heaven when the last third of the night remains and says: "who is there calling upon Me that I may answer? Who is there asking of Me that I may give
him?"'

"This hadeeth is established from the point of view of transmission having an authentic isnaad, the Ahlul Hadeeth do not differ as to it's authenticity...
...and in this is an evidence that Allaah is over (fee) the heaven, over (alaa) Throne, above (fawqa) the seven heavens, as is said by the Jama'ah, and this is their proof against the Mu'tazila and the Jahmiyyah in their saying that Allaah is in every place, not over
the Throne. And the evidence for what the People of truth say on that is His saying:

'The Most Merciful rose over the Throne'(20:5)

'then He rose over the Throne...' (32:4)
'Then He rose over the heaven when it was smoke' (41:11)

'Then they would surely have sought out a way to (ilaa) the Lord of the Throne' (17:42)

'To Him ascend all goodly words...'(35:10)

'So when His Lord appeared to the mountain, He made it to collapse to dust' (7:143)

'Do you feel secure that he who is over (fee) the heaven will not cause the earth to sink on you?' (67:16)

'Glorify the name of your Lord Most High' (87:1)

And this is from al-Uluww and likewise his saying:

'The Most High, the Most Great' (2:255)

'The Most Great, The Most High' (13:9)

'Owner of High ranks, owner of the Throne.' (40:15)

'They fear their Lord from above them' (16:50)

And the Jahmi says he is lower (then them)
'He arranges every affair from the heavens to the earth, then it (affair) will go up to him.' (32:5)

'O Jesus! I will take you and raise you to Myself' (3:55)

'Rather, Allaah raised him to Himself.' (4:158)

'From Allaah, the Lord of the ways of ascent. The Angels and the Spirit ascend to Him.' (70:2-3)

As for His saying, 'do you feel secure that he who is "fee" the heaven', then the meaning is 'who is over ('alaa) the Heaven' i.e. over the Throne. And the word fee is being used with the meaning 'alaa. Do you not see His saying, 'so travel freely fee the land' (9:2) meaning 'upon ('alaa) the land', and His saying, 'and I will surely crucify you on (fee) the trunks of the palm trees' (20:71) and all of this (i.e. interpretation of fee) is supported by His saying, 'the angels and the spirit ascend to Him'And what we have recited and the like of it from the verses to do
with this topic are clear in their denial of the saying of the
Mu'tazila (i.e. Allaah is everywhere). And as for their taking istawaa metaphorically, and in ta'wil to mean istawlaa (conquering) then this is not a meaning of it because it is not clear (ghayru dhaahir) in the language. And the meaning of istawlaa in the language is conquering/overcoming, and Allaah the Exalted does not
(need to) overcome or overwhelm anyone. And He is the One, the Eternal.

And from the right of the Words (of Allaah ) is that they be taken upon their literal meanings ('alaa haqeeqatihi), until the ummah is agreed that what is meant is the metaphorical meaning, when there is no way to follow what is revealed to us from our Lord except in that
way. And the speech of Allaah is directed towards it's most famous and obvious meanings if that (i.e taking it upon its most famous meanings) is not stopped by something we have to submit to. And if all the claims of metaphors were allowed for every claimant then
nothing would be established from the actions of worship. And it befits Allaah that he speaks only with that which the Arab understands according to the constraints of the speech (i.e. everyday language) from what is the correctly understood by the listener. And istawaa is known in the language and understood to be: Highness (uluww) and rising above something and establishing (at-
tamkinu) and settling in it (istiqraar feehee).

Abu Ubaid said about His saying, 'the Most Merciful Istawaa upon the Throne' - 'Above ('alaa)...'

And others said, Istawaa meaning istaqarra (settling) and they seek support in His saying, 'and when he attained his full strength and was perfect (istawaa)' (28:14) i.e. completed his youth and grew settled and there was not any increase in his youth.

Ibn Abdul Barr said, and istawaa is istiqraar in highness (uluww) [i.e. He has settled in being high], and this is what Allaah informs us, 'In order that you may mount firmly (tastu) on their backs, and then may remember the favours of your Lord when you mount (istawaytum) thereon...' (43:13), and Allaah said, 'and it rested
(wastawat) on Mount Judi' (11:44), and He the Exalted said, 'so when you embark (istawayta) and those with you on the ship' (23:28).
[i.e. all the examples show itiwaa to mean coming to rest in an elevated position]
....and as for their using as proof the narration of Ibn Abbaas about the saying of Allaah, 'The Most Merciful istawaa upon the Throne' -'He conquered/overcame (istawlaa) all His opponents and He
is everywhere.'Then the answer is that this hadeeth is munkar to Ibn Abbaas (RA) and is transmitted by unknown and weak narrators ....(takhreej ommitted).... and they (i.e Mu'tazila who narrated this hadeeth) do
not accept the individually narrated tradition so how can they permit depending upon the likes of this hadeeth, if they had sense and were just? As for what they hear Allaah say, 'And Pharaoh said, "O Haman! Build me a tower that I may arrive at the ways - the ways of the heavens, and I may look upon the God of Moses but verily
I think him to be a liar."' (40:36-37) then this lends evidence to the fact that Moses (AS) used to say that verily my God is above the Heaven and Pharaoh thought he was a liar. And also from the proofs that Allaah is over the Throne , above the seven heavens is that the Believers in Tawheed (muwahhideen), all of them, arabs and non-arabs, when a matter concerns them, or a
difficulty befalls them, they raise their faces to the heaven, and direct their raised hands to the heaven, seeking succour from Allaah, their Lord. And this is common amongst the general masses as
well as the elite (khaasa)....And the Prophet (sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam) said to the slave girl whose master wished to free her if she was a believer, so the Messenger (sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam) tested her asking her, 'where is Allaah?' So she pointed to the
heaven. Then he asked, 'who am I?' So she said, 'you are the Messenger of Allaah'. So he said, 'set her free for she is a believer.' So it sufficed the Messenger of Allaah
(sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam) from her, her raising her face to the heaven and was content with that, not requiring anything else.
And as for their seeking support in the saying of Allaah, 'their is no secret discourse of three except that he is the fourth' then this is not a proof for them according to the literal sense of this verse. Because the scholars from the companions and taabi'een from
whom the explanation of the Qur'aan is taken from, said in explanation of this verse: He is over the Throne, and His Knowledge is in every place, and no one from amongst them, whose saying is
depended on, differed on this. Ad-Dahhaak said about His saying, 'their is no secret discourse of three except that He is the fourth...' - 'He is over His Throne, and His Knowledge is with them, wheresoever they may be.' And it has reached me that Sufyaan ath-
Thauri said something similar. Ibn Mas'ud (RA) said, 'Allaah is over the Throne, and nothing is hidden from Him of your actions'"

(Tahdheeb 7:103-105)


and read this article about great Ahlul-Hadeeth like Ibn Abdul Barr rahimullah


http://www.allaahuakbar.net/scholar..._ahl_hadith.htm (http://www.allaahuakbar.net/scholars/al-madkhalee/so_who_are_ahl_hadith.htm)

[norkcen]

firslty, adding a biography of this person does not make him any more correct

secondly, he is amoung these new psedo scholars, Ibn asakir is a CLASSICAL scholar, one of the most knowlage in regaurds to everythign aqqedah, and unless your bent on defameing classical scholars such as ibn asakir, you have nothing to say

Allah is not in a location, saying other wise is blapshemy, and anyone that says Allah is in a place is a kafir. peroid.


and besides, everyone knows allahuakbar.net is a whahabies website..so why even waste time post this crap?

[chechnya]

secondly, he is amoung these new psedo scholars, Ibn asakir is a CLASSICAL scholar
ok, ibn Abdul Barr, died in 423H, is a new psedo scholars....very good!!!!

and anyone that says Allah is in a place is a kafir.
So you say ibn Abdul Barr, a great ahlul-Hadeeth, who adhere to the methodological principles outlined in the Book of Allaah, the Sunnah of His Messenger and the practice of the Companions, is a kafir!!!.....very very good!!!!

everyone knows allahuakbar.net is a whahabies website..so why even waste time post this crap?
No It s a salafist website.
So do u know the importance of Manhaj and the salafist Manhaj that you criticize? read boy:

WHAT IS THE IMPORTANCE OF MANHAJ?

Manhaj means The methodology of implementing the beliefs and laws of Islam.

TheSalaf us-Saalih are distinguished for their adherence to the methodological principles outlined in the Book of Allaah, the Sunnah of His Messenger and the practice of the Companions.

Thus, in the arena of Aqeedah (creed) the Salaf us-Saalih follow a particular methodology, which is opposed to that of other than them, such as the Ash'arees, the Mu'tazilah and their likes whose hallmark is to raise the intellect and kalaam (theological rhetoric) over the texts of the Book and the Sunnah and the well-known sayings of the Imaams of this ummah.

Similarly, in the arena of Ibaadah (worship), the Salaf us-Saalih adhere to a methodology opposed to that of the intoxicated Soofees and Grave worshippers, who invent and innovate into the religion that for which Allaah sent down no authority.

Similarly, in the arena of Da'wah (calling to Allaah) and current affairs, the Salaf us-Saalih are distinguished from the innovated and pretentious methodologies of the political activists, who under the guise of following the Salaf and the contemporary Ulamaa, rouse the emotions and sentiments of the common-folk, take them away from the firmly established scholars and merely call to themselves.

Shaikh Saalih al-Fawzaan - may Allaah preserve him - said, The reasons for disunity are many. From amongst the main causes are: Firstly, opposing the Manhaj (methodology) of the Salaf, the Companions of Allaah's Messenger and those who follow them. So the Salaf had a Manhaj that they adhered to; a Manhaj in aqeedah (creed), a Manhaj in da'wah (calling to Allaah), a Manhaj in enjoining good and forbidding evil, a Manhaj in how to judge between people. This Manhaj, in all situations, was based upon the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of our Messenger . [Wujoob ut-Tathabbut fil-Akhbaaar p.18]

from http://www.allaahuakbar.net/aqeedah/manhaj/index.htm

Somes cheikh of salafist Manhaj (that you don't like):
Ibn Taymiyyah (d. 728H), adh-Dhahabee (d. 748H),Ibn Katheer (d. 774H), Cheikh Al Albani, cheikh moqbeen, cheikh Ibn Baz, cheikh Ibn Otheimine, cheikh Al Fawzan...


Do you know this authentic hadith,in Ahmad, Abu Dawud and Al-Hakim: the Prophet (SAWS) said: My Ummah will split into 73 sects, all of whom will be in the Hell Fire except one.

So choose the good Manhaj boy!




So choose the good Manhaj

[norkcen]

ok, ibn Abdul Barr, died in 423H, is a new psedo scholars....very good!!!!

and ibn asakir beofre this

So you say ibn Abdul Barr, a great ahlul-Hadeeth, who adhere to the methodological principles outlined in the Book of Allaah, the Sunnah of His Messenger and the practice of the Companions, is a kafir!!!.....very very good!!!!
some people also say ibn tammiyyah adhear to the sunnah or rasululah and the Quran tooo

No It s a salafist website.
So do u know the importance of Manhaj and the salafist Manhaj that you criticize? read boy:

salafies died out 300H, there is no such thing as salafies anymroe, they are whahbies who use the word salafie to represent themselevs, and thus disfame the REAL salaf

WHAT IS THE IMPORTANCE OF MANHAJ?

Manhaj means The methodology of implementing the beliefs and laws of Islam.

TheSalaf us-Saalih are distinguished for their adherence to the methodological principles outlined in the Book of Allaah, the Sunnah of His Messenger and the practice of the Companions.

Thus, in the arena of Aqeedah (creed) the Salaf us-Saalih follow a particular methodology, which is opposed to that of other than them, such as the Ash'arees, the Mu'tazilah and their likes whose hallmark is to raise the intellect and kalaam (theological rhetoric) over the texts of the Book and the Sunnah and the well-known sayings of the Imaams of this ummah.

Similarly, in the arena of Ibaadah (worship), the Salaf us-Saalih adhere to a methodology opposed to that of the intoxicated Soofees and Grave worshippers, who invent and innovate into the religion that for which Allaah sent down no authority.

Similarly, in the arena of Da'wah (calling to Allaah) and current affairs, the Salaf us-Saalih are distinguished from the innovated and pretentious methodologies of the political activists, who under the guise of following the Salaf and the contemporary Ulamaa, rouse the emotions and sentiments of the common-folk, take them away from the firmly established scholars and merely call to themselves.

Shaikh Saalih al-Fawzaan - may Allaah preserve him - said, The reasons for disunity are many. From amongst the main causes are: Firstly, opposing the Manhaj (methodology) of the Salaf, the Companions of Allaah's Messenger and those who follow them. So the Salaf had a Manhaj that they adhered to; a Manhaj in aqeedah (creed), a Manhaj in da'wah (calling to Allaah), a Manhaj in enjoining good and forbidding evil, a Manhaj in how to judge between people. This Manhaj, in all situations, was based upon the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of our Messenger . [Wujoob ut-Tathabbut fil-Akhbaaar p.18]

from http://www.allaahuakbar.net/aqeedah/manhaj/index.htm

Somes cheikh of salafist Manhaj (that you don't like):
Ibn Taymiyyah (d. 728H), adh-Dhahabee (d. 748H),Ibn Katheer (d. 774H), Cheikh Al Albani, cheikh moqbeen, cheikh Ibn Baz, cheikh Ibn Otheimine, cheikh Al Fawzan...


Do you know this authentic hadith,in Ahmad, Abu Dawud and Al-Hakim: the Prophet (SAWS) said: My Ummah will split into 73 sects, all of whom will be in the Hell Fire except one.

So choose the good Manhaj boy!




So choose the good Manhaj


yes, that oen si the sunni group, whahabies are not sunnies..salafies are not sunnis, they are salafie..lol, you jsut pointed yourself out....