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Blackmuslim07
16-11-05, 03:38 AM
I wanted to discuss something that I believe is important yet has been swept under the rug for far too long. I know many black females that have been born muslims or have coverted to Islam. This diverse group of women (being african, caribbean, african american..etc)..however seem to be battling with the same issues as far as black female sexuality and modesty...and marriage in Islam.

Many black females, whether they are muslim or not seem to struggle with the fact that there are always haunting stereotypes of black females as being portrayed as promiscuous or whore-like. It has gotten so bad to the point that many black females find it nearly impossible to find a mate...due to male's over-generalization of black females..or plain and simple racism..in which black women are not seen as an ideal mate.
Due to slavery and other "mechanisms" there has been a breakdown of the black family structure...all of this combined has deeply affected the esteem of black women

Many black women believe it or not come to Islam seeking an external purity..knowning that even from the outside they would not have to worry about being seen as a whore by there male counterparts. If you ever noticed black women who convert to Islam are usually the first to take on the full "hijab" with jilbab and niqab.
Trying desperately to seek this wholesome nature and purity that SOCIETY has tried to stripe away from them.
My sincere hope is that next time you see a black female, dont be so quick to judge, she may not be your ideal of perfection, but that doesnt mean she doesn have values, morality or virtue.

As far as marriage, I see my black muslimah's desperately struggling trying to find a place to belong. One must love herself before she loves others. Many times I see men of Asian or Arab decent marry black muslimahs with the idea stripping away her entire identity making her feel as if being black isnt good enough. As if he is doing her a favor of marrying her.
The strong black muslim sisters who do not have this type of toleration from this men find themselevs waiting a very long time to find a good deecnt black muslim male who will appreciate her black identity and not make it something she has to be ashamed of.
I want my black muslimahs (and all black women) to realize that some of us out there are listening, we hear ur cries..and we know you deserve to be loved..no matter how dark peopple say you are, or how ugly men want to believe you are, some us know how truly valuable you are

If any black muslimahs want to share their stories about marriage or issues facing them...please talk about it here..the world needs to know

Guardian Hijab
16-11-05, 03:55 AM
I wanted to discuss something that I believe is important yet has been swept under the rug for far too long. I know many black females that have been born muslims or have coverted to Islam. This diverse group of women (being african, caribbean, african american..etc)..however seem to be battling with the same issues as far as black female sexuality and modesty...and marriage in Islam.

Many black females, whether they are muslim or not seem to struggle with the fact that there are always haunting stereotypes of black females as being portrayed as promiscuous or whore-like. It has gotten so bad to the point that many black females find it nearly impossible to find a mate...due to male's over-generalization of black females..or plain and simple racism..in which black women are not seen as an ideal mate.
Due to slavery and other "mechanisms" there has been a breakdown of the black family structure...all of this combined has deeply affected the esteem of black women

Many black women believe it or not come to Islam seeking an external purity..knowning that even from the outside they would not have to worry about being seen as a whore by there male counterparts. If you ever noticed black women who convert to Islam are usually the first to take on the full "hijab" with jilbab and niqab.
Trying desperately to seek this wholesome nature and purity that SOCIETY has tried to stripe away from them.
My sincere hope is that next time you see a black female, dont be so quick to judge, she may not be your ideal of perfection, but that doesnt mean she doesn have values, morality or virtue.

As far as marriage, I see my black muslimah's desperately struggling trying to find a place to belong. One must love herself before she loves others. Many times I see men of Asian or Arab decent marry black muslimahs with the idea stripping away her entire identity making her feel as if being black isnt good enough. As if he is doing her a favor of marrying her.
The strong black muslim sisters who do not have this type of toleration from this men find themselevs waiting a very long time to find a good deecnt black muslim male who will appreciate her black identity and not make it something she has to be ashamed of.
I want my black muslimahs (and all black women) to realize that some of us out there are listening, we hear ur cries..and we know you deserve to be loved..no matter how dark peopple say you are, or how ugly men want to believe you are, some us know how truly valuable you are

If any black muslimahs want to share their stories about marriage or issues facing them...please talk about it here..the world needs to know
Asalamualaikum

Are you a black muslimah?

Wa'alaikumasalam

Blackmuslim07
16-11-05, 04:06 AM
Asalamualaikum

Are you a black muslimah?

Wa'alaikumasalam

Assalamualaikum

I am a muslim brother, born and raised
i have several sisters i am sympathetic because i have seen what they have had to go through
i have been struggling alot these past 2 years, alot of things has happened to me by other muslims and my family

Guardian Hijab
16-11-05, 04:10 AM
Assalamualaikum

I am a muslim brother, born and raised
i have several sisters i am sympathetic because i have seen what they have had to go through
i have been struggling alot these past 2 years, alot of things has happened to me by other muslims and my family
Asalamualaikum

I'm so sorry to hear that brother. Some Muslims can be very very very nationalistic, pretty much racist. InshAllah whereever you are living now, you can move to a better place, if not, make where ever you live better.

I don't know about you community. But here in Canada, us black woman don't have that much trouble finding a spouse. A friend of mine is getting married next month, and another is married to a Half-Palestinian and Half-Chilian man and has a 4 month baby together:)

Alhamdulilah, we live in a very diverse place, so I can't relate at all. InshAllah I really hope where ever you live gets better, or those idiots get a good but kicking:p

Wa'alaikumasalam

Blackmuslim07
16-11-05, 05:04 AM
Asalamualaikum

I'm so sorry to hear that brother. Some Muslims can be very very very nationalistic, pretty much racist. InshAllah whereever you are living now, you can move to a better place, if not, make where ever you live better.

I don't know about you community. But here in Canada, us black woman don't have that much trouble finding a spouse. A friend of mine is getting married next month, and another is married to a Half-Palestinian and Half-Chilian man and has a 4 month baby together:)

Alhamdulilah, we live in a very diverse place, so I can't relate at all. InshAllah I really hope where ever you live gets better, or those idiots get a good but kicking:p

Wa'alaikumasalam
Im glad to hear that where you live you encounter much positive experience
Maybe you can share your stories...or suggestions
Just some words of wisdom from your experience
Because unfortunately, you might not represent a large majority, alot of Black muslim sister struggle in this aspect

Hekmaa
16-11-05, 08:17 AM
Prophet Adam was black, as he was created not from one colour soil but from seven. We know from experiment that when mixing the different colours of soil on earth, a dark mixture is the result.



Our black brethren must try to jump out of the side effects that slavery has created and rebuild on base one, which is deen, and realise the value Allah has placed upon them. Bilal Al Habashi, was the first Muslim on top of the Ka'abba, he was black. The first country to give Asylum to Muslims was a Black Country of Africa. Africa has always extended its hand to Islam when no on else has. Today Africa produces the most amount of Hafiz of the Holy Quran.



Our Black brethren must ask the question, why did the colonial powers chose black people as Slaves? Why did the Colonial Powers not take Arabs or Indians as Slaves?



Can you picture an Arab being a Slave? Half his day would be spent drinking coffee, and the other half preparing the coffee, and any free time in between arguing with the boss (Reference Amr Khalid and Egyptian researcher and daai). The Indians, would drive the boss mad, they would have back and neck aches all day long, and offer to sell the bosses goods if the boss prepares it himself.



The Black man however was gifted by Allah to deal with heat, drought and harsh conditions. Allah gave them magnificent bodies, it is a Medical fact that the body of the African man is made to strive to the limit. That is why the entire world running Champions are black.



If we look into ourselves and observe the beauty of what Allah has given us, we will realise that "Ma khalaqta hadtha batilla" that Allah has not created nothing for vain.



Does man think Allah created him in a form that he may be lower in class than other men and that his colour may be a form of shame for him? offcourse not, Allah has created All of us for a purpose, and given us all gifts and we must realise those gifts rather then fall victim to the miss use of those gifts by others.



Black women are one of the most children bearing of women kind on earth. Black women are one of the most patient of women kind on earth. There are other facts that one can go into, but this is not the place for those things.



Finally, it is unfortunate that we live in a world of racism, and though Islam is colour blind, Muslims are not, as they carry the luggage of their cultures. Though those racist instances in history have placed our black brethren into a shadowy corner, and to some extent forced them into acting a culture of R&B and Rap, we know the reality is far from it. Somalia produces more Hafiz of the Quran then Any Arab country, Allah has given you my black brethren so many gifts, you need to jump out and celebrate what Allah has made you unique for and feel proud for the sacrifice you made for deen, when Arabia closed her doors on the Sahaba of the Beloved of Allah, Mohammad e Mustafa. Africa open her doors.

peace2u
16-11-05, 08:55 AM
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Peace

jannah1978
16-11-05, 05:38 PM
Assalamu Alaykum,

I think everyone sterotypes about every culture. There is no culture that is perfect.

I think as I've grown up I no longer look at people as a colour but look beyond that.

I did used to see people as being Muslim and Non-muslim, I've now gone beyond that and now see people as practising good Muslim and non -practising.

The best thing to do is find people who are practising and stick in the company of those that are righteous. There are bad people from every culture.

Have you read From My sister's lips by Naima Robert - its an account of a black sister that reverted to islam and her thoughts and trials she underwent while she reverted. To being with she believed in 'black power' and would only mix with black girls. After reverting and becoming an practising Muslim her friends were from all races (but they were good practising sisters).

ma'salam

Al-Irhaab
16-11-05, 07:31 PM
if a sister wants to marry someone who will appreciate her black heritage then she will never find a decent husband ... what she should look for is someone who appreciates her islamic charachter, ive seen too many times that people have tried to cling on to their kufr heritage and its caused problems, your not black your muslim end of. Africa is not your land its mostly muslim land. In islam our allegiance is to islam not to africa or pakistan or bangladesh or arabia.